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		<title>By: Kalex&#039;s Tome &#38;raquo #BAFact: Matter falling into a black hole can create vast jets of material thousands&#8230; &#124; Kalex&#039;s Tome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalex&#039;s Tome &#38;raquo #BAFact: Matter falling into a black hole can create vast jets of material thousands&#8230; &#124; Kalex&#039;s Tome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andrew Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve already mentioned on other Discovery Magazine web pages and elsewhere, to say that nothing escapes what the gravitational pull of a black hole has initially  pulled in, is a misnomer.  From what I&#039;ve heard or viewed on the Net or TV, only I say that.  Its always the erroneously ominous,&#039;&#039; Nothing escapes a black hole.&#039;&#039; hoohaahaahaa drama I get from supposedly serious scientists,  perhaps blind to admit progress with all the new info we are obtaining nowadays.  Thanks for verifying what I say.   Wow, I just a did a Google search for, Andrew Planet black holes, and one of yours came out first.  Thanks for the excellent publicity you give!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve already mentioned on other Discovery Magazine web pages and elsewhere, to say that nothing escapes what the gravitational pull of a black hole has initially  pulled in, is a misnomer.  From what I&#8217;ve heard or viewed on the Net or TV, only I say that.  Its always the erroneously ominous,&#8221; Nothing escapes a black hole.&#8221; hoohaahaahaa drama I get from supposedly serious scientists,  perhaps blind to admit progress with all the new info we are obtaining nowadays.  Thanks for verifying what I say.   Wow, I just a did a Google search for, Andrew Planet black holes, and one of yours came out first.  Thanks for the excellent publicity you give!</p>
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		<title>By: Frost Bite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frost Bite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s way past the time the scientific  community got together and changed the nomenclature regarding black holes, they are neither black, nor holes. We can reclassify Pluto, but can&#039;t change a designation that&#039;s so misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s way past the time the scientific  community got together and changed the nomenclature regarding black holes, they are neither black, nor holes. We can reclassify Pluto, but can&#8217;t change a designation that&#8217;s so misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: Frost Bite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frost Bite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad this is an old blog post...

Black Holes: Do they NEED to do anything other than-
Take in matter on the horizontal axis, stretching atoms until breaking the strong nuclear force and expelling particles out through the vertical axis.
This explains the high level of Hydrogen and Helium, and why there is not a higher amount of Iron, as I understand is the stability all atoms try to achieve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad this is an old blog post&#8230;</p>
<p>Black Holes: Do they NEED to do anything other than-<br />
Take in matter on the horizontal axis, stretching atoms until breaking the strong nuclear force and expelling particles out through the vertical axis.<br />
This explains the high level of Hydrogen and Helium, and why there is not a higher amount of Iron, as I understand is the stability all atoms try to achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR-Correcting</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR-Correcting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asimov&#039;s positronic robots referred to were in his Science-Fiction in case that wasn&#039;t clear enough.

&amp; I meant to be polite &amp; put &lt;b&gt;Tom Marking&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; name in bold too .. Ah if only we could edit these posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asimov&#8217;s positronic robots referred to were in his Science-Fiction in case that wasn&#8217;t clear enough.</p>
<p>&amp; I meant to be polite &amp; put <b>Tom Marking&#8217;s</b> name in bold too .. Ah if only we could edit these posts.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom Marking :

&lt;i&gt;&quot;of course, I’ve touched a live nuclear weapon before too but that’s a different topic&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Now that I find pretty amazing and would like to hear more about. I checked your blog (Scanned over really,I&#039;m afraid) but couldn&#039;t find anything on it.)

Electric universe is in the electric chair?
Methinks: Yeah! yeah!
I&#039;m very tired after scanning through so many posts here trying to make sense of at least some of them ..

Please excuse me if I&#039;m incoherent right now; my brain&#039;s turned to mush with sheer exhaustion. My maths is lousy at the best of times but one final thought on the issue of accretion disks ..

Novae - anyone mentioned them yet?

Are they not related to black hole accretion disks too - material spiralling inwards from companion star to white dwarf ..?
Could novae be relevant? Perhaps worth using as for analogy / comparison purposes?

Oh and positrons - antimatter elctrons - were used by Isaac Asimov to power his robots and were pretty well known back inthe 1930-s or was it 1950&#039;s ..for whatever that&#039;s worth.

On that fuzzing-over thought &amp; note I&#039;m heading to bed. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom Marking :</p>
<p><i>&#8220;of course, I’ve touched a live nuclear weapon before too but that’s a different topic&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Now that I find pretty amazing and would like to hear more about. I checked your blog (Scanned over really,I&#8217;m afraid) but couldn&#8217;t find anything on it.)</p>
<p>Electric universe is in the electric chair?<br />
Methinks: Yeah! yeah!<br />
I&#8217;m very tired after scanning through so many posts here trying to make sense of at least some of them ..</p>
<p>Please excuse me if I&#8217;m incoherent right now; my brain&#8217;s turned to mush with sheer exhaustion. My maths is lousy at the best of times but one final thought on the issue of accretion disks ..</p>
<p>Novae &#8211; anyone mentioned them yet?</p>
<p>Are they not related to black hole accretion disks too &#8211; material spiralling inwards from companion star to white dwarf ..?<br />
Could novae be relevant? Perhaps worth using as for analogy / comparison purposes?</p>
<p>Oh and positrons &#8211; antimatter elctrons &#8211; were used by Isaac Asimov to power his robots and were pretty well known back inthe 1930-s or was it 1950&#8242;s ..for whatever that&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>On that fuzzing-over thought &amp; note I&#8217;m heading to bed. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that is exactly what I meant. I think one can add that &quot;those&quot; internetpages have citiations - of other internetpages. It&#039;s just like with the credit-systems and our current crash. It will bloat and bloat until it (hopefully) crashes down. We will see.

Btw: I like Wikipedia. You should not use it as source in a scientific paper, of course ;) . But it provides a short and informative overview over a subject you can investigate further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that is exactly what I meant. I think one can add that &#8220;those&#8221; internetpages have citiations &#8211; of other internetpages. It&#8217;s just like with the credit-systems and our current crash. It will bloat and bloat until it (hopefully) crashes down. We will see.</p>
<p>Btw: I like Wikipedia. You should not use it as source in a scientific paper, of course <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  . But it provides a short and informative overview over a subject you can investigate further.</p>
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		<title>By: ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrFlimmer,

hehe
Actually I try to take each wiki article I read seperately as I expect the quality to differ from article to article. When it comes to the more well established topics and subjects, wikipedia tends to have a good overview of it. They&#039;re also good for finding a bunch of references quickly as they list them. They have a mass vs. weight article on there, which I wish OIM and his buddies had read.

Yes, internet pages with assertions and no good references or hard numbers to back things up. Who needs stuff like that when the those pages are written by electrical engineers? They must know what they&#039;re talking about.

One of the PC sites claimed the pioneer probes were slowing down (actual gravitational  anomaly, you&#039;ve probably heard) because of negative charge on the craft and the positive charge on the Sun. But no numbers or even any back of the envelope calculations to back things up. Lovely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrFlimmer,</p>
<p>hehe<br />
Actually I try to take each wiki article I read seperately as I expect the quality to differ from article to article. When it comes to the more well established topics and subjects, wikipedia tends to have a good overview of it. They&#8217;re also good for finding a bunch of references quickly as they list them. They have a mass vs. weight article on there, which I wish OIM and his buddies had read.</p>
<p>Yes, internet pages with assertions and no good references or hard numbers to back things up. Who needs stuff like that when the those pages are written by electrical engineers? They must know what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>One of the PC sites claimed the pioneer probes were slowing down (actual gravitational  anomaly, you&#8217;ve probably heard) because of negative charge on the craft and the positive charge on the Sun. But no numbers or even any back of the envelope calculations to back things up. Lovely.</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ivan3man

How true!

@ ND

Oh, come on - Wikipedia is not a reliable source, how dare you? :D
But as we have learned, books are not to be trusted, either. Probably papers are, but they wouldn&#039;t look for them, although I gave Anaconda two links where to find them.
The ONLY reliable sources are some internetpages.... wait, internetpages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ivan3man</p>
<p>How true!</p>
<p>@ ND</p>
<p>Oh, come on &#8211; Wikipedia is not a reliable source, how dare you? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But as we have learned, books are not to be trusted, either. Probably papers are, but they wouldn&#8217;t look for them, although I gave Anaconda two links where to find them.<br />
The ONLY reliable sources are some internetpages&#8230;. wait, internetpages?</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrFlimmer,

There is a tendency of cranks &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; to care if other cranks (and denialists in general for that matter) have &lt;b&gt;variations on their own crazy ideas&lt;/b&gt;, just as long as the other cranks are &lt;b&gt;opposing the same perceived incorrect truth&lt;/b&gt;. Cranks are not honest brokers in a debate, they stand outside of it and just shovel male bovine excrement into it to try to sow confusion and doubt about real science. They don&#039;t care if some other crank comes along and challenges the prevailing theory by tossing BS, &lt;b&gt;as long as what they&#039;re shoveling stinks&lt;/b&gt;. They are like adolescent punks who vandalize recently built/painted walls with graffiti. Pseudoscience is a form of intellectual vandalism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrFlimmer,</p>
<p>There is a tendency of cranks <b>not</b> to care if other cranks (and denialists in general for that matter) have <b>variations on their own crazy ideas</b>, just as long as the other cranks are <b>opposing the same perceived incorrect truth</b>. Cranks are not honest brokers in a debate, they stand outside of it and just shovel male bovine excrement into it to try to sow confusion and doubt about real science. They don&#8217;t care if some other crank comes along and challenges the prevailing theory by tossing BS, <b>as long as what they&#8217;re shoveling stinks</b>. They are like adolescent punks who vandalize recently built/painted walls with graffiti. Pseudoscience is a form of intellectual vandalism!</p>
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