http://techfox.comicgenesis.com/d/20041112.html

For instance, exactly how did you determine the percentage of kinetic energy that resuults in spacecraft damage? What is your conversion rate of Joules to tons of TNT?

(Please do all work in metric…along those lines, is tons of TNT a metric ton or a British ton?)

Thanks. This just gets everyone on the same page and provides a nice physics primer for verybody.

I imagine that the actual lines of motion were less than perfectly aligned. The resulting “glancing blow” would cause both birds to leave the scene spinning very very rapidly which would cause them to rip apart into thousands of fragments.

Taking the total kinetic energy of both objects only works if they end up in a single mass and and then you still have to subtract the KE of the resultant blob.

There is no way to ever know how much energy was released. One thing is for sure. At those speeds on a crossing vector there was plenty of energy to destroy both birds.

Nor am I not anti-jewish, just Pro-Palestinean!

Actually pro-Humanity when you think about it. Israel violates international law, basic human rights principles, committs endless war crimes and creates anti-semitism daily. (& not just anti-Palestinean and anti-Arab variety anti-semitism but anti-semitism directed, rather justifiably, against the perpetrators of so many war-crimes and crimes against humanity – Israel & the wider Israeli-Jewish lobby.)

Ultimately, Israel will harm everybody incl. the Jews themselves. There is no better way to wipe out the jewish people, should you actually want to – which I don’t – than get them all together in one small piece of land then really, & I mean really get the neighbours of that land to hate you.

Israel will not remain militarily superior forever. One day it will lose its ability to terrorise its neighbours into submission – and will have the choice – learn to respect & get on well with its neighbours – or perish.

It is hardly naive to think Mutally Assured Destruction works the USSR-USA Cold War & the current India-Pakistan situation is proof of that.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejhad is certainly no crazier than “Dubya” Bush and Iran too has a right to exist without fear of attack.

Why might I ask should Israel and USA, nations demonstrably more aggressive and with far worse records of respecting the rights of others have WMDs and yet not Iran? There is no answer for that question which is not blatant hypocrisy.

@ Ragutis : (Feb 12th, 2009 at 2:58 am)
StevoR, I don’t hesitate to criticize and condemn Israel for it’s criminal behavior against the Palestinians over the years, but you have got to be nuts to think that a nuclear Iran is a good idea. Nuclear weapons are a terrible idea in any circumstance, but imagining them in the hands of a theocracy is blood-chilling.

Too late. Israel is a religio-racist apartheid military theocracy – & it already has secret nukes in violation of UN law. The US was ruled until recently by a man (in the loosest sense of the word) who believes God told him to invade Iraq. I’d prefer Iran had nukes than either of those nations -its record on the international stage is much more responsible and peaceful!;-)

(It is historical fact that Iran hasn’t actually attacked any other
nation since WWII – but rather been attackied by a few notably Iraq with
Amercian encouragement.)

Ragutis continued :
… Yu want a quick solution? Get rid of that nutjob Ahmadinejad and overthrow the Supreme Leader. Iran has a huge youth population that are quite progressive and would really like to Westernize.”

Sounds like the neo-cons plan for Iraq. Weren’t we going to be greeted
with flowers and cheering crowds there?

No. Reigeme change just does NOT work. Accept it. Just because the US doesn’t like some other govt does NOT give it the right to attack that nation. Its time this axiom was acknowledged and the US stopped itshysteria and started behaving more responsibly and multilaterally – hopefully Obama will the USA in that direction.

“An aggressive U.S. and Israel only helps the reactionaries and clerics remain in power.”

Now on that we agree!

As for emoticons, well I like ‘em!

Oh & the reason I was worried about my post coming though wasn’t paranoia – I’ve just had a few problems posting things on other threads here before.