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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Neurowhoa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/02/12/eso-unlocks-the-keyhole/comment-page-1/#comment-156329</link>
		<dc:creator>Neurowhoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about pareidolia, I can see several &quot;faces&quot; in the picture. Quick! Hide this before the creationists get hold of it!</description>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &lt;b&gt;Greg Fish : &lt;/b&gt; 

&lt;i&gt; (February 13th, 2009 at 1:13 am) 
&quot;The star in question [Eta Carinae] has the mass of over 100 suns so spewing out just two sun’s worth is only a little more than a cosmic belch. It still retains around 99% of its heft. If stars about 10 times as massive as the Sun, shed a significant percentage of their mass, go out with a bang and collapse into black holes, imagine what a monster ten times that can do.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Very true indeed.  However, one minor pedantic nit pick though - a * ten * solar mass star which is the lowest mass star to produce a type II supernova would NOT leave a black hole but would produce a neutron star instead. (Okay the boundary is around eight to ten solar masses to be precise.) 

Such a star would begin its life as about spectral type B1~B2 before running through its core hydrogen, swelling up to red supergianthood as a Helium fusing first and then second ascent supergiant. It would then be a red hot vacuum in its outer layers but in its super-dense, super-hot core, the star would fuse elements past just the ordinary helium into carbon, carbon into oxygen. It would &quot;burn&quot; oxygen into neon &amp; magnesium, neon-magnesium into silicon &amp; sulphur and finally sulphur-Silicon into iron ... 

.. At which point the nuclear fusion process takes more energy than produces causing the core to implode, the outer layers of the star rebound off it &amp; 

:large fonts &lt;large&gt;

&lt;b&gt; &lt;em&gt; BBOOOOOOOMMMM!!!   &lt;/b&gt; &lt;/em&gt; :/large: 

We have a new supernova! :-)

Then a new neutron star for this lower mass high mass star .. Maybe a pulsar or magnetar.

Or for a *higher* high mass star perhaps a black hole! ;-)

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PS. Hope the large font size works - how do you get large fonts here?

Suggestion to the &lt;b&gt;BA&lt;/b&gt; - can we have a &quot;how to&quot; list somewhere here with font sizes, image posting, bold, italics emoticons etc .. ? Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ <b>Greg Fish : </b> </p>
<p><i> (February 13th, 2009 at 1:13 am)<br />
&#8220;The star in question [Eta Carinae] has the mass of over 100 suns so spewing out just two sun’s worth is only a little more than a cosmic belch. It still retains around 99% of its heft. If stars about 10 times as massive as the Sun, shed a significant percentage of their mass, go out with a bang and collapse into black holes, imagine what a monster ten times that can do.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Very true indeed.  However, one minor pedantic nit pick though &#8211; a * ten * solar mass star which is the lowest mass star to produce a type II supernova would NOT leave a black hole but would produce a neutron star instead. (Okay the boundary is around eight to ten solar masses to be precise.) </p>
<p>Such a star would begin its life as about spectral type B1~B2 before running through its core hydrogen, swelling up to red supergianthood as a Helium fusing first and then second ascent supergiant. It would then be a red hot vacuum in its outer layers but in its super-dense, super-hot core, the star would fuse elements past just the ordinary helium into carbon, carbon into oxygen. It would &#8220;burn&#8221; oxygen into neon &#038; magnesium, neon-magnesium into silicon &#038; sulphur and finally sulphur-Silicon into iron &#8230; </p>
<p>.. At which point the nuclear fusion process takes more energy than produces causing the core to implode, the outer layers of the star rebound off it &#038; </p>
<p>:large fonts <large></p>
<p><b> <em> BBOOOOOOOMMMM!!!   </em></b>  :/large: </p>
<p>We have a new supernova! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Then a new neutron star for this lower mass high mass star .. Maybe a pulsar or magnetar.</p>
<p>Or for a *higher* high mass star perhaps a black hole! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
PS. Hope the large font size works &#8211; how do you get large fonts here?</p>
<p>Suggestion to the <b>BA</b> &#8211; can we have a &#8220;how to&#8221; list somewhere here with font sizes, image posting, bold, italics emoticons etc .. ? Please?</large></p>
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		<title>By: StevoR-Correcting</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR-Correcting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, its still 14th over in the States I see. 

Its already midday on the 15th Feb today here in Adelaide, South Australia anyway. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, its still 14th over in the States I see. </p>
<p>Its already midday on the 15th Feb today here in Adelaide, South Australia anyway. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Click on my name for a link to James Kaler’s excellent ‘Eta Carinae’ page for more info. Seems he agrees with me about this Luminous Blue Variable and possible brightest star in our Galaxy  - saying : 
&lt;i&gt;
“ETA CAR (Eta Carinae). &quot;Magnificent;&quot; &quot;Grandest in the Galaxy of stars&quot;; &quot;None like it:&quot; so would go critical reviews were Eta Car a stage actor rather than a star. Hyperbole? Yes there are other stars that are similar, but none that can really claim ascendancy.” &lt;/i&gt; 

&amp; noting Eta Carinae could end not merely in a supernova but even produce a hypernova blast instead! 

PS. Happy 445th birthday to Galileo Galilei, discoverer of the Galilean moons of Jupiter (Io, Europa, Ganymede &amp; Callisto), the phases of Venus, sunspots, Lunar craters and more; the original astronomical telescopic observer, improver of the Galilean telescope named in his honour*, improver of the compass, advocate of the Copernican heliocentric theory, “father of Science” itself. 

* Invented though by others – a contentious issue with Hans Lippershey (or Lipperhey spellings vary) being first to patent the design but rivals appearing almostsimultaneously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click on my name for a link to James Kaler’s excellent ‘Eta Carinae’ page for more info. Seems he agrees with me about this Luminous Blue Variable and possible brightest star in our Galaxy  &#8211; saying :<br />
<i><br />
“ETA CAR (Eta Carinae). &#8220;Magnificent;&#8221; &#8220;Grandest in the Galaxy of stars&#8221;; &#8220;None like it:&#8221; so would go critical reviews were Eta Car a stage actor rather than a star. Hyperbole? Yes there are other stars that are similar, but none that can really claim ascendancy.” </i> </p>
<p>&#038; noting Eta Carinae could end not merely in a supernova but even produce a hypernova blast instead! </p>
<p>PS. Happy 445th birthday to Galileo Galilei, discoverer of the Galilean moons of Jupiter (Io, Europa, Ganymede &#038; Callisto), the phases of Venus, sunspots, Lunar craters and more; the original astronomical telescopic observer, improver of the Galilean telescope named in his honour*, improver of the compass, advocate of the Copernican heliocentric theory, “father of Science” itself. </p>
<p>* Invented though by others – a contentious issue with Hans Lippershey (or Lipperhey spellings vary) being first to patent the design but rivals appearing almostsimultaneously.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eta Carinae has to be my all-time favourite star! :-D 8)

Somewhere between four to five * million * times as brightas the Sun, dramatically explosive, surrounded by many shells of nebulosity -the homunculus, the keyhole, the HST-imaged lobes with a thin white hot disk separating them. A binary we&#039;ve just found with a Wolf-Rayet star (probably?) that shed its outer layers in a titanic explosion making it briefly a rival to Sirius and gretaer than Canopus - even as seen from Earth seven thousand five hundred odd light years away. Pairedwitha supermassive B-type (probably) supergiant star with around 100 times our Sun&#039;s mass and .. just .. Wow! :-)

This extreme awe-inspiring star still blows my mind every time I think about it! :-)  

Its my hope that in this the International Year of Astronomy &#039;09 Eta Carinae finally does explode safely but spectacularly as a Wolf-Rayet supernova and showers down a whole wealth of  marvellous scientific information for us to enjoy. Of course, the odds of ithappening this year are very long and its highly unlikely; but until Dec. 31st I&#039;ll be hoping for it! I&#039;d certainly love to see Eta Carinae explode within my lifetime .. providing we don&#039;t cop any damage which I really don&#039;t think we will. ;-) 

Thanks for posting that image for us, &lt;b&gt;BA&lt;/b&gt; - its much appreciated. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eta Carinae has to be my all-time favourite star! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Somewhere between four to five * million * times as brightas the Sun, dramatically explosive, surrounded by many shells of nebulosity -the homunculus, the keyhole, the HST-imaged lobes with a thin white hot disk separating them. A binary we&#8217;ve just found with a Wolf-Rayet star (probably?) that shed its outer layers in a titanic explosion making it briefly a rival to Sirius and gretaer than Canopus &#8211; even as seen from Earth seven thousand five hundred odd light years away. Pairedwitha supermassive B-type (probably) supergiant star with around 100 times our Sun&#8217;s mass and .. just .. Wow! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This extreme awe-inspiring star still blows my mind every time I think about it! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Its my hope that in this the International Year of Astronomy &#8216;09 Eta Carinae finally does explode safely but spectacularly as a Wolf-Rayet supernova and showers down a whole wealth of  marvellous scientific information for us to enjoy. Of course, the odds of ithappening this year are very long and its highly unlikely; but until Dec. 31st I&#8217;ll be hoping for it! I&#8217;d certainly love to see Eta Carinae explode within my lifetime .. providing we don&#8217;t cop any damage which I really don&#8217;t think we will. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thanks for posting that image for us, <b>BA</b> &#8211; its much appreciated. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mchl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mchl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffersonian: With the Nebula being 144 light years across, and our solar system being just several light HOURS across... You should start to see where I&#039;m going. Our solar system fits into one pixel of that image, together with lots of empty space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffersonian: With the Nebula being 144 light years across, and our solar system being just several light HOURS across&#8230; You should start to see where I&#8217;m going. Our solar system fits into one pixel of that image, together with lots of empty space.</p>
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		<title>By: firemancarl</title>
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		<dc:creator>firemancarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please, Phil, use SI-units instead of imperial units&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah, especially since the empire was crushed by the rebellion and now we have the new Republic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please, Phil, use SI-units instead of imperial units</p></blockquote>
<p>yeah, especially since the empire was crushed by the rebellion and now we have the new Republic!</p>
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