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	<title>Comments on: Binary black holes terrorize quasar nucleus</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/04/binary-black-holes-terrorize-quasar-nucleus/comment-page-2/#comment-225240</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ? is do quasars suck in  things like black holes
reply ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ? is do quasars suck in  things like black holes<br />
reply ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/04/binary-black-holes-terrorize-quasar-nucleus/comment-page-2/#comment-225239</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please answer ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please answer ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/04/binary-black-holes-terrorize-quasar-nucleus/comment-page-2/#comment-225233</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is do quasars suck in things like blackholes?</description>
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		<title>By: Agujero negro binario, ¡descubierto! &#171; GuateCiencia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/04/binary-black-holes-terrorize-quasar-nucleus/comment-page-2/#comment-165554</link>
		<dc:creator>Agujero negro binario, ¡descubierto! &#171; GuateCiencia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom Marking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Marking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian &quot;Would 2 singularities ever truly merge?&quot;

Good question.  From the point of view of a &quot;clock&quot; maintained at either black hole singularity they will.  From the point of view of a remote observer watching the merger it will take an infinite amount of time.

&quot;What happens to the event horizons during the early stages of the merger process? Would they extend outwards towards the other mass?&quot;

The event horizons are not physical objects so there should be no effects similar to what happens when two physical objects merge (e.g., turbulence, etc.).

&quot;If orbiting black holes generate gravity waves and waves are a form of energy, wouldn’t those gravity waves be getting their energy directly from the masses of the black holes? Is this a way for a black hole to lose mass, like Hawking radiation?&quot;

It&#039;s my understanding that the energy contained in the gravitational waves comes from the initial kinectic energy of the two black holes.

&quot;If so, is this a significant energy loss to the black holes?&quot;

Probably not, in this case the kinetic energy of the smaller of the black holes is 7.2E50 joules but its rest energy is 3.6E54, 5000 times greater.

&quot;Would the merged black hole rotate, having gotten a big kick from the orbital motions of the original pair?&quot;

They are probably both rotation to begin with.  After the merger the resulting angular momentum vector is the vector sum of the initial angular momentum vectors (using the parallelogram rule).

&quot;I seem to recall that a rotating hole had a singularity that was a ring, rather than a point (or was it a double event horizon?).&quot;

I think that&#039;s probably true.  Of course any attempts to go inside the event horizon and verify this are likely to be fruitless.

&quot;Wasn’t there some idea that an energetic phenomenon (Gamma Ray Bursts?) was the result of black hole mergers? Or was it simply black holes consuming large masses like stars?&quot;

GRBs are thought to be coming from massive stars during black hole formation, not from swallowing stars although that probably would be an energetic event also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian &#8220;Would 2 singularities ever truly merge?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good question.  From the point of view of a &#8220;clock&#8221; maintained at either black hole singularity they will.  From the point of view of a remote observer watching the merger it will take an infinite amount of time.</p>
<p>&#8220;What happens to the event horizons during the early stages of the merger process? Would they extend outwards towards the other mass?&#8221;</p>
<p>The event horizons are not physical objects so there should be no effects similar to what happens when two physical objects merge (e.g., turbulence, etc.).</p>
<p>&#8220;If orbiting black holes generate gravity waves and waves are a form of energy, wouldn’t those gravity waves be getting their energy directly from the masses of the black holes? Is this a way for a black hole to lose mass, like Hawking radiation?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that the energy contained in the gravitational waves comes from the initial kinectic energy of the two black holes.</p>
<p>&#8220;If so, is this a significant energy loss to the black holes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably not, in this case the kinetic energy of the smaller of the black holes is 7.2E50 joules but its rest energy is 3.6E54, 5000 times greater.</p>
<p>&#8220;Would the merged black hole rotate, having gotten a big kick from the orbital motions of the original pair?&#8221;</p>
<p>They are probably both rotation to begin with.  After the merger the resulting angular momentum vector is the vector sum of the initial angular momentum vectors (using the parallelogram rule).</p>
<p>&#8220;I seem to recall that a rotating hole had a singularity that was a ring, rather than a point (or was it a double event horizon?).&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s probably true.  Of course any attempts to go inside the event horizon and verify this are likely to be fruitless.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wasn’t there some idea that an energetic phenomenon (Gamma Ray Bursts?) was the result of black hole mergers? Or was it simply black holes consuming large masses like stars?&#8221;</p>
<p>GRBs are thought to be coming from massive stars during black hole formation, not from swallowing stars although that probably would be an energetic event also.</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wikipedia (The Font of All Knowledge!), the collector&#039;s edition DVD of &lt;i&gt;Monty Python and the Holy Grail&lt;/i&gt; has the &quot;script&quot; subtitles for that bit in the &lt;b&gt;Knights Who Say Ni!&lt;/b&gt; (click on my name) scene as: &quot;Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke P&#039;tang Zoo Boing&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia (The Font of All Knowledge!), the collector&#8217;s edition DVD of <i>Monty Python and the Holy Grail</i> has the &#8220;script&#8221; subtitles for that bit in the <b>Knights Who Say Ni!</b> (click on my name) scene as: &#8220;Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke P&#8217;tang Zoo Boing&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/04/binary-black-holes-terrorize-quasar-nucleus/comment-page-2/#comment-162792</link>
		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me call it the &quot;freedom of synchronization&quot; (sounds like a bill of Goerge W. Bush) ;)

Eki-eki-eki-*what-is-this-last-sound?*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me call it the &#8220;freedom of synchronization&#8221; (sounds like a bill of Goerge W. Bush) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eki-eki-eki-*what-is-this-last-sound?*</p>
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