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	<title>Comments on: Illinois plutocrats are frakkin&#8217; goofy</title>
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		<title>By: Illinois &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Illinois: Pluto is a Planet – Tech Products &#38; Geek News &#124; Geek.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illinois &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Illinois: Pluto is a Planet – Tech Products &#38; Geek News &#124; Geek.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 22:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Astronomical Union’s 2006 ruling to reclassify a icy universe as a member of a Kuiper belt, Discover [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JOE</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-252730</link>
		<dc:creator>JOE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in the area around Streator for my entire life, and I can tell you honestly, that the people there and the others in Illinois think this is just as ridiculous as you all do.  One of my friends was working in the state legislature when this was all happening, she couldn&#039;t even find someone from Streator who supported this and would be willing to vocalize their support.   It was just a stupid state senator that wanted his name on passing legislature, his name is Gary Dahl, and if you are from Illinois call to complain to him.  I have called more than once, but he assures me that the people from Streator support it and requested it, but I know for a fact that is not true.  I&#039;m sure thousands already have called him and gotten the same response, from what I&#039;ve heard and seen of him, he was really the only one that cared about Pluto&#039;s planetary status, and it wasn&#039;t out of misguided local pride or because the scientific system &quot;failed&quot; and needed correcting, it was merely a way to build his political resume and generate publicity, which it so obviously has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in the area around Streator for my entire life, and I can tell you honestly, that the people there and the others in Illinois think this is just as ridiculous as you all do.  One of my friends was working in the state legislature when this was all happening, she couldn&#8217;t even find someone from Streator who supported this and would be willing to vocalize their support.   It was just a stupid state senator that wanted his name on passing legislature, his name is Gary Dahl, and if you are from Illinois call to complain to him.  I have called more than once, but he assures me that the people from Streator support it and requested it, but I know for a fact that is not true.  I&#8217;m sure thousands already have called him and gotten the same response, from what I&#8217;ve heard and seen of him, he was really the only one that cared about Pluto&#8217;s planetary status, and it wasn&#8217;t out of misguided local pride or because the scientific system &#8220;failed&#8221; and needed correcting, it was merely a way to build his political resume and generate publicity, which it so obviously has.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Pluto been dead for years</description>
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		<title>By: Illinois Legislature Declares Pluto Is A Planet Again &#124; Disinformation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-215971</link>
		<dc:creator>Illinois Legislature Declares Pluto Is A Planet Again &#124; Disinformation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GO TO FULL STORY [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad&#8217;s Reader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Friday Link Love 03/06</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-184427</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad&#8217;s Reader &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Friday Link Love 03/06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Illinois plutocrats are frakkin&#8217; goofy (another reason why I&#8217;m embarrassed to be from Illinois right now) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pluto has been &#8220;promoted&#8221; to planet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-182440</link>
		<dc:creator>Pluto has been &#8220;promoted&#8221; to planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article. The goverment of the state of Illinois decided to take the matter into their own hands by  declaring Pluto a fully-pledged planet. Obviously, their motives have nothing to do with that fact the Clyde W. Tombaugh, who discovered [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article. The goverment of the state of Illinois decided to take the matter into their own hands by  declaring Pluto a fully-pledged planet. Obviously, their motives have nothing to do with that fact the Clyde W. Tombaugh, who discovered [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gooly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Plutos a planet!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: SCIENCEPODCASTERS.ORG &#187; EUSci: Edinburgh University Science Podcast #6 - Astronomy Special</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-167365</link>
		<dc:creator>SCIENCEPODCASTERS.ORG &#187; EUSci: Edinburgh University Science Podcast #6 - Astronomy Special</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pluto a Planet Again (in Illinois) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EUSci - The Edinburgh University Science Magazine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EUSci Podcast #6 - Astronomy Special</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-167327</link>
		<dc:creator>EUSci - The Edinburgh University Science Magazine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EUSci Podcast #6 - Astronomy Special</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pluto a Planet Again (in Illinois) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Planets Cards!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-165150</link>
		<dc:creator>Planets Cards!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What this created was a difficulty for teachers. Do we still teach Pluto? Does &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas&#8221; become &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos&#8221;? Does &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights, Period&#8221; become &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights&#8221;? What if Pluto is reinstated next year? What if you live in Illinois? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What this created was a difficulty for teachers. Do we still teach Pluto? Does &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas&#8221; become &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos&#8221;? Does &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights, Period&#8221; become &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights&#8221;? What if Pluto is reinstated next year? What if you live in Illinois? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Os plutocratas &#171; Notas ao café&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-165113</link>
		<dc:creator>Os plutocratas &#171; Notas ao café&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] o insulto a Plutão foi demais para as boas gentes do estado do Illinois, nos EUA, que decidiram devolver a Plutão o seu estatuto de planeta e declarar o dia 13 de Março como o «Dia de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] o insulto a Plutão foi demais para as boas gentes do estado do Illinois, nos EUA, que decidiram devolver a Plutão o seu estatuto de planeta e declarar o dia 13 de Março como o «Dia de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Beskeptical/skeptigirl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-163439</link>
		<dc:creator>Beskeptical/skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Yahoo is feeling the twitter.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090316/sc_space/asscienceevolvessodoespluto
As Science Evolves, So Does Pluto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Yahoo is feeling the twitter.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090316/sc_space/asscienceevolvessodoespluto" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090316/sc_space/asscienceevolvessodoespluto</a><br />
As Science Evolves, So Does Pluto</p>
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		<title>By: Beskeptical/skeptigirl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-163110</link>
		<dc:creator>Beskeptical/skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Separation of science and state is probably needed more than you would think. I&#039;m trying to get legislation overturned in WA state that reflects anti-vaccine activists&#039; pressure which influenced the legislators to adopt a law based on very bad science. It has resulted in patients who should have been vaccinated not getting vaccinated. It also amounts to the legislators practicing medicine without licenses. They rejected the testimony of the medical professionals in favor of the lunatic fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Separation of science and state is probably needed more than you would think. I&#8217;m trying to get legislation overturned in WA state that reflects anti-vaccine activists&#8217; pressure which influenced the legislators to adopt a law based on very bad science. It has resulted in patients who should have been vaccinated not getting vaccinated. It also amounts to the legislators practicing medicine without licenses. They rejected the testimony of the medical professionals in favor of the lunatic fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Beskeptical/skeptigirl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-163108</link>
		<dc:creator>Beskeptical/skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California passed earlier legislation with reasons that are good for a ROTFLOL episode.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=21982
[quote]...WHEREAS, The mean-spirited International Astronomical Union decided on August 24, 2006, to disrespect Pluto by stripping Pluto of its planetary status and reclassifying it as a lowly dwarf planet; and 

...WHEREAS, Pluto, named after the Roman God of the underworld and affectionately sharing the name of California&#039;s most famous animated dog, has a special connection to California history and culture; and

WHEREAS, Downgrading Pluto&#039;s status will cause psychological harm to some Californians who question their place in the universe and worry about the instability of universal constants; and

WHEREAS, The deletion of Pluto as a planet renders millions of text books, museum displays, and children&#039;s refrigerator art projects obsolete, and represents a substantial unfunded mandate that must be paid by dwindling Proposition 98 education funds, thereby harming California&#039;s children and widening its budget deficits; and

WHEREAS, The deletion of Pluto as a planet is a hasty, ill-considered scientific heresy similar to questioning the Copernican theory, drawing maps of a round world, and proving the existence of the time and space continuum; and [/quote]

But the last 2 reasons make one wonder if the legislation wasn&#039;t intended to be sarcastic.[quote]WHEREAS, The downgrading of Pluto reduces the number of planets available for legislative leaders to hide redistricting legislation and other inconvenient political reform measures; and

WHEREAS, The California Legislature, in the closing days of the 2005-06 session, has been considering few matters important to the future of California, and the status of Pluto takes precedence and is worthy of this body&#039;s immediate attention; now, therefore, be it [/quote]

New Mexico&#039;s legislation is a more mundane version except it highlights their ignorance while touting their state as a center of astronomical education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California passed earlier legislation with reasons that are good for a ROTFLOL episode.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=21982" rel="nofollow">http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=21982</a><br />
[quote]&#8230;WHEREAS, The mean-spirited International Astronomical Union decided on August 24, 2006, to disrespect Pluto by stripping Pluto of its planetary status and reclassifying it as a lowly dwarf planet; and </p>
<p>&#8230;WHEREAS, Pluto, named after the Roman God of the underworld and affectionately sharing the name of California&#8217;s most famous animated dog, has a special connection to California history and culture; and</p>
<p>WHEREAS, Downgrading Pluto&#8217;s status will cause psychological harm to some Californians who question their place in the universe and worry about the instability of universal constants; and</p>
<p>WHEREAS, The deletion of Pluto as a planet renders millions of text books, museum displays, and children&#8217;s refrigerator art projects obsolete, and represents a substantial unfunded mandate that must be paid by dwindling Proposition 98 education funds, thereby harming California&#8217;s children and widening its budget deficits; and</p>
<p>WHEREAS, The deletion of Pluto as a planet is a hasty, ill-considered scientific heresy similar to questioning the Copernican theory, drawing maps of a round world, and proving the existence of the time and space continuum; and [/quote]</p>
<p>But the last 2 reasons make one wonder if the legislation wasn&#8217;t intended to be sarcastic.[quote]WHEREAS, The downgrading of Pluto reduces the number of planets available for legislative leaders to hide redistricting legislation and other inconvenient political reform measures; and</p>
<p>WHEREAS, The California Legislature, in the closing days of the 2005-06 session, has been considering few matters important to the future of California, and the status of Pluto takes precedence and is worthy of this body&#8217;s immediate attention; now, therefore, be it [/quote]</p>
<p>New Mexico&#8217;s legislation is a more mundane version except it highlights their ignorance while touting their state as a center of astronomical education.</p>
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		<title>By: OK, now I know why Pluto is not a planet. - Page 3 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-163107</link>
		<dc:creator>OK, now I know why Pluto is not a planet. - Page 3 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] actually ruled that Pluto is a planet! LOL    The BA&#039;s blog discussed the Illinois legislation, Illinois plutocrats are frakkin</description>
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		<title>By: Planets Cards! &#171; Alice&#8217;s Astro Info</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-163039</link>
		<dc:creator>Planets Cards! &#171; Alice&#8217;s Astro Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What this created was a difficulty for teachers. Do we still teach Pluto? Does &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas&#8221; become &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos&#8221;? Does &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights, Period&#8221; become &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights&#8221;? What if Pluto is reinstated next year? What if you live in Illinois? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What this created was a difficulty for teachers. Do we still teach Pluto? Does &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas&#8221; become &#8220;My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nachos&#8221;? Does &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights, Period&#8221; become &#8220;Mary&#8217;s Violet Eyes Made John Stay Up Nights&#8221;? What if Pluto is reinstated next year? What if you live in Illinois? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-162270</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The problem with the current definition is that it is dependent on how far out an object is. By the current IAU definition, Earth would not be a planet if it was at Pluto’s orbit, since it would be unable to clear the orbit.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Nevertheless, the fact remains that Earth &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; cleared its orbital neighbourhood.

What alternative definition would you supply?

Personally, I think that the definition of planet should include &quot;orbits a star&quot; instead of &quot;orbits the sun&quot;, but I guess that gives us a distinction between planet and extrasolar planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey said:</p>
<blockquote><p>The problem with the current definition is that it is dependent on how far out an object is. By the current IAU definition, Earth would not be a planet if it was at Pluto’s orbit, since it would be unable to clear the orbit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nevertheless, the fact remains that Earth <i>has</i> cleared its orbital neighbourhood.</p>
<p>What alternative definition would you supply?</p>
<p>Personally, I think that the definition of planet should include &#8220;orbits a star&#8221; instead of &#8220;orbits the sun&#8221;, but I guess that gives us a distinction between planet and extrasolar planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-162269</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bemused said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;So, what, now we need separation of science and state?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah!

What we need is guaranteed Academic Freedom.  Free the Academics!!

Oh, wait . . . don&#039;t we already have that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bemused said:</p>
<blockquote><p>So, what, now we need separation of science and state?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah!</p>
<p>What we need is guaranteed Academic Freedom.  Free the Academics!!</p>
<p>Oh, wait . . . don&#8217;t we already have that?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-162268</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Ron said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Who took a core sample to determine Pluto is only ice?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Irrelevant.  Our best understanding of the formation of KBOs indicates that they are entirely (or almost entirely) composed of ices.  Unless evidence comes to light (e.g. from New Horizons in a few years&#039; time) to indicate that we are wrong, we should assume our best understanding to be correct.

The fact that some quite small objects appear to be spheroidal supports this - rock is too rigid for a small rocky body to form a sphere, whereas ice is far more ductile and hence small icy bodies form spheroids..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Ron said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Who took a core sample to determine Pluto is only ice?</p></blockquote>
<p>Irrelevant.  Our best understanding of the formation of KBOs indicates that they are entirely (or almost entirely) composed of ices.  Unless evidence comes to light (e.g. from New Horizons in a few years&#8217; time) to indicate that we are wrong, we should assume our best understanding to be correct.</p>
<p>The fact that some quite small objects appear to be spheroidal supports this &#8211; rock is too rigid for a small rocky body to form a sphere, whereas ice is far more ductile and hence small icy bodies form spheroids..</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel D Lindmark said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The majority of the people on this comment stream seems to think that the IL Legislature doesn’t have the authority to make this decision.

Well guess what? Neither does the IAU. Just because a bunch of hominids on the third rock from Sol happen to have more scientific knowledge of a certain area does not give them the right to name anything. They throw something against the wall and see if it sticks, but they can’t fight against the pitchforks and torches of the masses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is misdirection.

No-one has the &quot;authority&quot; to impose a universal name on an astronomical object.  However, this statement is utterly irrelevant.  The IAU has the authority to provide the astronomical community (i.e. humans who study celestial objects) with a definition for a common term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel D Lindmark said:</p>
<blockquote><p>The majority of the people on this comment stream seems to think that the IL Legislature doesn’t have the authority to make this decision.</p>
<p>Well guess what? Neither does the IAU. Just because a bunch of hominids on the third rock from Sol happen to have more scientific knowledge of a certain area does not give them the right to name anything. They throw something against the wall and see if it sticks, but they can’t fight against the pitchforks and torches of the masses.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is misdirection.</p>
<p>No-one has the &#8220;authority&#8221; to impose a universal name on an astronomical object.  However, this statement is utterly irrelevant.  The IAU has the authority to provide the astronomical community (i.e. humans who study celestial objects) with a definition for a common term.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, that&#039;s funny, the Discover parser caught and replaced the first lazy ö with an emoticon, but not the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, that&#8217;s funny, the Discover parser caught and replaced the first lazy ö with an emoticon, but not the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-161482</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
handled and debunked by Törbjorn Larsson
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, Marco, perhaps I&#039;m not lost in space then! 

And now I have to decide if I&#039;m going to start whine that my mööns are circling the wrong planets ... :o :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
handled and debunked by Törbjorn Larsson
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<p>Thanks, Marco, perhaps I&#8217;m not lost in space then! </p>
<p>And now I have to decide if I&#8217;m going to start whine that my mööns are circling the wrong planets &#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Less Interesting Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; פלוטו הוא כוכב לכת כל עוד הוא מעל אילינוי</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-161361</link>
		<dc:creator>The Less Interesting Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; פלוטו הוא כוכב לכת כל עוד הוא מעל אילינוי</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] של ניל דה-גראס טייסון, ההכרזה עצמה היא מטופשת לחלוטין. וה-Bad Astronomy Blog דואג להעיר על הנושא ולהאיר אותו מכל מיני נקודות מבט [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] של ניל דה-גראס טייסון, ההכרזה עצמה היא מטופשת לחלוטין. וה-Bad Astronomy Blog דואג להעיר על הנושא ולהאיר אותו מכל מיני נקודות מבט [...]</p>
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		<title>By: doombot &#187; Daily Doom 3/9/09</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-161319</link>
		<dc:creator>doombot &#187; Daily Doom 3/9/09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Illinois Declares Pluto a Planet. Surprise surprise, Pluto was discovered by a man born in Illinois. The Illinois legislature then goes on to make the erroneous claim that Pluto is the only &#8220;planet&#8221; discovered by Americans. In retaliation, the other 49 states are declaring objects to be planets willy-nilly, including Eris, Ceres, and George Lucas&#8217;s ego. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Illinois Declares Pluto a Planet. Surprise surprise, Pluto was discovered by a man born in Illinois. The Illinois legislature then goes on to make the erroneous claim that Pluto is the only &#8220;planet&#8221; discovered by Americans. In retaliation, the other 49 states are declaring objects to be planets willy-nilly, including Eris, Ceres, and George Lucas&#8217;s ego. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/illinois-plutocrats/comment-page-5/#comment-161218</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Rod Blagojevich was right about the entire Illinois.  Did anyone mention the dwarf planet Eris?  Definitely larger than Pluto.  These people are complete idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Rod Blagojevich was right about the entire Illinois.  Did anyone mention the dwarf planet Eris?  Definitely larger than Pluto.  These people are complete idiots.</p>
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