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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Kerr Mudgeon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160798</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerr Mudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mixter Says: 
How about another type of statement? “The source is the bible.”
- Not specific enough. Try this:
&quot;The source is the bible (verse/chapter) as reported by FOX News!&quot;</description>
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How about another type of statement? “The source is the bible.”<br />
- Not specific enough. Try this:<br />
&#8220;The source is the bible (verse/chapter) as reported by FOX News!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mixter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160745</link>
		<dc:creator>Mixter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about another type of statement?  &quot;The source is the bible.&quot;

Mixter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about another type of statement?  &#8220;The source is the bible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mixter</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160656</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any sufficiently awesome scientific discovery is indistinguishable from outrageousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any sufficiently awesome scientific discovery is indistinguishable from outrageousness.</p>
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		<title>By: earthandbeyond</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160522</link>
		<dc:creator>earthandbeyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kuhnigget, I thought the Mayans predicted this graph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kuhnigget, I thought the Mayans predicted this graph.</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160509</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want the t-shirt!</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160401</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the chance of your spouse believing something non-outrageous you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the chance of your spouse believing something non-outrageous you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160386</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there are plenty of reasons to trust Oprah. For instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HQOVqyAxM

Well, maybe she can be easily, quite easily,...I mean, totally super-duper fooled. I guess she&#039;s just another celebrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of reasons to trust Oprah. For instance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HQOVqyAxM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HQOVqyAxM</a></p>
<p>Well, maybe she can be easily, quite easily,&#8230;I mean, totally super-duper fooled. I guess she&#8217;s just another celebrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160384</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Feynman recounted a story involving Banach-Tarski or some related theorem from his undergrad days, when some mathematics students explained to him that you could cut up an orange and reassemble it into something the size of the sun (or something like that.)  He rejected the whole notion, arguing that if you are talking about cutting up &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; oranges with &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; knives, you run into constraints that don&#039;t affect mathematical constructs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Feynman recounted a story involving Banach-Tarski or some related theorem from his undergrad days, when some mathematics students explained to him that you could cut up an orange and reassemble it into something the size of the sun (or something like that.)  He rejected the whole notion, arguing that if you are talking about cutting up <i>real</i> oranges with <i>real</i> knives, you run into constraints that don&#8217;t affect mathematical constructs.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160383</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the X-Files paradox:  the people who most embrace the &quot;I Want To Believe / Trust No One&quot; philosophy are most likely to accept as true any random piece of information sent to them in a multiply-forwarded e-mail, and are most likely to doubt anything they hear from an extablished and reputable source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the X-Files paradox:  the people who most embrace the &#8220;I Want To Believe / Trust No One&#8221; philosophy are most likely to accept as true any random piece of information sent to them in a multiply-forwarded e-mail, and are most likely to doubt anything they hear from an extablished and reputable source.</p>
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		<title>By: John Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160375</link>
		<dc:creator>John Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with other commenters like llewelly.  Tons of true statements are outrageous, like time-dilation, length-contraction, entanglement, the Copenhagen interpretation...

If you want some that really break your head, look at math, and not just physical science.  Banach-Tarski is a great one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with other commenters like llewelly.  Tons of true statements are outrageous, like time-dilation, length-contraction, entanglement, the Copenhagen interpretation&#8230;</p>
<p>If you want some that really break your head, look at math, and not just physical science.  Banach-Tarski is a great one.</p>
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		<title>By: bsander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160369</link>
		<dc:creator>bsander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much win, yet so much fail..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much win, yet so much fail..</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160363</link>
		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
... except to add that if it’s backed by indisputable scientific evidence, it’s not outrageous by definition.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nonsense, Phil. Evolution is backed by overwhelming evidence, but it&#039;s been outraging people for 150 years. Outrage is rarely the result of careful consideration of evidence.</description>
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&#8230; except to add that if it’s backed by indisputable scientific evidence, it’s not outrageous by definition.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Nonsense, Phil. Evolution is backed by overwhelming evidence, but it&#8217;s been outraging people for 150 years. Outrage is rarely the result of careful consideration of evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160360</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Meier predicted this graph in 1987.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic, considering that your friend gave this to you.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160354</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of a friend told me this graph is inaccurate.</description>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160353</link>
		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to ask:  What % of people believe an outrageous statement when presented with a graph?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to ask:  What % of people believe an outrageous statement when presented with a graph?</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160349</link>
		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to tell people things that are true but which just don&#039;t seem right.  For example: the rising and setting of the sun is due to the spinning of the earth and not the motion of the sun.  A more obscure one would be that everyone (at least the living) glows in the dark; it&#039;s just that the glow is infrared so humans can&#039;t see it but some animals (like many snakes) can sense it.  Oh, one of my favorites:  The Vatican Observatory is in Arizona, USA.  There are a lot of jokes and puzzles based on misperceptions and biases - for example, exploting people&#039;s bias that all physicians are male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to tell people things that are true but which just don&#8217;t seem right.  For example: the rising and setting of the sun is due to the spinning of the earth and not the motion of the sun.  A more obscure one would be that everyone (at least the living) glows in the dark; it&#8217;s just that the glow is infrared so humans can&#8217;t see it but some animals (like many snakes) can sense it.  Oh, one of my favorites:  The Vatican Observatory is in Arizona, USA.  There are a lot of jokes and puzzles based on misperceptions and biases &#8211; for example, exploting people&#8217;s bias that all physicians are male.</p>
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		<title>By: Turing Eret</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160348</link>
		<dc:creator>Turing Eret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chance of Hating a Graph Due to Font Used:

Comic Sans: 100%</description>
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<p>Comic Sans: 100%</p>
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		<title>By: Arik Rice</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160345</link>
		<dc:creator>Arik Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;d agree with this graph.

It makes me sad that people, when told that scientists have discovered something interesting or wonderful, will suddenly announce that it must really be the exact opposite for absolutely no reason. It&#039;s like there&#039;s some pervasive belief out there that anything scientists say must always be abolustely wrong at all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;d agree with this graph.</p>
<p>It makes me sad that people, when told that scientists have discovered something interesting or wonderful, will suddenly announce that it must really be the exact opposite for absolutely no reason. It&#8217;s like there&#8217;s some pervasive belief out there that anything scientists say must always be abolustely wrong at all times.</p>
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		<title>By: Huron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160341</link>
		<dc:creator>Huron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also add: &quot;Saw it on a youtube video&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also add: &#8220;Saw it on a youtube video&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: QUASAR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160340</link>
		<dc:creator>QUASAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that graphic only refer to religulous wingnuts? 

Where&#039;s the reasoning in this faith intoxicated world, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that graphic only refer to religulous wingnuts? </p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the reasoning in this faith intoxicated world, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160339</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larian:
On it&#039;s way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larian:<br />
On it&#8217;s way.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeSmithCA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160337</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeSmithCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I believe everything I read on the internet. I&#039;m still waiting for my winnings from the Spanish National Lottery but I know they&#039;ll arrive soon! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I believe everything I read on the internet. I&#8217;m still waiting for my winnings from the Spanish National Lottery but I know they&#8217;ll arrive soon! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160335</link>
		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay then here goes: I wrote all of The Beatles&#039; Songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay then here goes: I wrote all of The Beatles&#8217; Songs.</p>
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		<title>By: Larian LeQuella</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/05/outrageous-beliefs/comment-page-1/#comment-160332</link>
		<dc:creator>Larian LeQuella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(  Image blocked.  Would anyone care to email it to me at jan dot lundquist AT us dot af dot mil?  Pretty please?!</description>
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