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	<title>Comments on: Seeking legendary bad astronomy</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/08/seeking-legendary-bad-astronomy/comment-page-3/#comment-209137</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a point on that picture but in reality as you have pointed out that cant really happen. though it occurs a lot in old stories and myths. the best explanation I see is that the star would be at the point of almost being occluded by the dark part of the moon, and people&#039;s descriptions of such events or things being embellished, could be exaggerated to the point seen above.

So I would guess the best explanation would be.
1. the stars are close to the moons darker side not in the middle of it as depicted. 
2. then the tricks of the eye and atmosphere would make the light seem closer together then it really is. 
3.And of course stories and myths tend to exaggerate details like this to the point of absurdity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a point on that picture but in reality as you have pointed out that cant really happen. though it occurs a lot in old stories and myths. the best explanation I see is that the star would be at the point of almost being occluded by the dark part of the moon, and people&#8217;s descriptions of such events or things being embellished, could be exaggerated to the point seen above.</p>
<p>So I would guess the best explanation would be.<br />
1. the stars are close to the moons darker side not in the middle of it as depicted.<br />
2. then the tricks of the eye and atmosphere would make the light seem closer together then it really is.<br />
3.And of course stories and myths tend to exaggerate details like this to the point of absurdity.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/08/seeking-legendary-bad-astronomy/comment-page-3/#comment-171765</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite thing about this picture is that the moon looks so good, you can CLEARLY tell it&#039;s a SPHERE. *snicker*

I just found this same error in a Travelodge ad on Facebook (red arrow is my doing):

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/freeluvfreeway/Travelodgeisretarded.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite thing about this picture is that the moon looks so good, you can CLEARLY tell it&#8217;s a SPHERE. *snicker*</p>
<p>I just found this same error in a Travelodge ad on Facebook (red arrow is my doing):</p>
<p><a href="http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/freeluvfreeway/Travelodgeisretarded.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c378/freeluvfreeway/Travelodgeisretarded.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: thChieh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/08/seeking-legendary-bad-astronomy/comment-page-3/#comment-162597</link>
		<dc:creator>thChieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your case, at least this happened in a movie...

In my case, worse! this same misconception was publish in newspaper and asking people to go out and look at this &quot;wonder&quot;
http://mydarksky.org/2008/12/01/lunar-smiley-face/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your case, at least this happened in a movie&#8230;</p>
<p>In my case, worse! this same misconception was publish in newspaper and asking people to go out and look at this &#8220;wonder&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://mydarksky.org/2008/12/01/lunar-smiley-face/" rel="nofollow">http://mydarksky.org/2008/12/01/lunar-smiley-face/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Obviously it’s not stars in front of the moon, but some other magical phenomenon that just looks really stupid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No.  Obviously, it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;meant&lt;/i&gt; to be stars beyond the moon (this is what the dialogue is about, after all).  And equally obviously, the SFX crew screwed it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Obviously it’s not stars in front of the moon, but some other magical phenomenon that just looks really stupid.</p></blockquote>
<p>No.  Obviously, it&#8217;s <i>meant</i> to be stars beyond the moon (this is what the dialogue is about, after all).  And equally obviously, the SFX crew screwed it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/08/seeking-legendary-bad-astronomy/comment-page-3/#comment-161636</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rift said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . don’t hear any one complaining about diskworld on the back of elephants and a giant sea turtle in the recent “Hogfather” special…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is a key point.  Pratchett goes to considerable length to explain these differences between his invented world and our real one.

IIRC, Goodkind barely mentions the stuff in the sky.  It&#039;s background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rift said:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . don’t hear any one complaining about diskworld on the back of elephants and a giant sea turtle in the recent “Hogfather” special…</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a key point.  Pratchett goes to considerable length to explain these differences between his invented world and our real one.</p>
<p>IIRC, Goodkind barely mentions the stuff in the sky.  It&#8217;s background.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/08/seeking-legendary-bad-astronomy/comment-page-3/#comment-161635</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheyenne said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand what you are saying but, well, I really don’t see the point of it. It’s fantasy - and it’s not even good fantasy at that. So who really cares about this? Actually, judging by the amount of comments it looks like a lot do - so I think I should probably go away from this one (BA writes about a lot of interesting things - I think I’ll muddle about in those other waters).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, judging from the number of posts you have made, you obviously care.

But, actually, such details can have a huge impact.  I have never seen this show, and, judging from feedback that I have read, I don&#039;t think I ever will.  However, let&#039;s assume it was a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; adaptation of Goodkind&#039;s book - in this case, enjoyment requires a suspension of disbelief to accept the magical stuff that happens.  Such obvious errors as having those stars seemingly in front of the unlit face of the moon can damage the suspension of disbelief and spoil the enjoyment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheyenne said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I understand what you are saying but, well, I really don’t see the point of it. It’s fantasy &#8211; and it’s not even good fantasy at that. So who really cares about this? Actually, judging by the amount of comments it looks like a lot do &#8211; so I think I should probably go away from this one (BA writes about a lot of interesting things &#8211; I think I’ll muddle about in those other waters).</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, judging from the number of posts you have made, you obviously care.</p>
<p>But, actually, such details can have a huge impact.  I have never seen this show, and, judging from feedback that I have read, I don&#8217;t think I ever will.  However, let&#8217;s assume it was a <i>good</i> adaptation of Goodkind&#8217;s book &#8211; in this case, enjoyment requires a suspension of disbelief to accept the magical stuff that happens.  Such obvious errors as having those stars seemingly in front of the unlit face of the moon can damage the suspension of disbelief and spoil the enjoyment.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheyenne said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not the author/screenwriter of the wizard show but here’s one way he did it - he used his magical fairy dust unicorn stoked magi-pen (bought from a mystical maiden troll that likes Goth music) to warp the spacetime continuum to shrink the stars. He changed the laws of physics to do it. Just like how the laws of physics and science are obviously and totally changed if you want to have, you know, a freaking wizard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You obviously don&#039;t read much stuff with wizards in it.

What you describe is utterly beyond the capabilities of any of the characters in Goodkind&#039;s stories.

Godlike powers do not make good drama.  I know of no recently published stories where characters have the kind of power you describe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheyenne said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not the author/screenwriter of the wizard show but here’s one way he did it &#8211; he used his magical fairy dust unicorn stoked magi-pen (bought from a mystical maiden troll that likes Goth music) to warp the spacetime continuum to shrink the stars. He changed the laws of physics to do it. Just like how the laws of physics and science are obviously and totally changed if you want to have, you know, a freaking wizard.</p></blockquote>
<p>You obviously don&#8217;t read much stuff with wizards in it.</p>
<p>What you describe is utterly beyond the capabilities of any of the characters in Goodkind&#8217;s stories.</p>
<p>Godlike powers do not make good drama.  I know of no recently published stories where characters have the kind of power you describe.</p>
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