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Doctor Who specials finale rumor

OK, HUGE Doctor Who finale rumor spoiler, so seriously and for real don’t read this if you want to stay unspoiled!


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MSN Entertainment UK is reporting is reporting that the finale of David Tennant’s tenure with Doctor Who — the last of the specials to be run, where he regenerates into Matt Smith — will feature John Simm! Simm played The Master in Series 4 in the two-part finale. The Master was seen to die, but there was some ambiguity at the end of the finale.

Also, that site reports that Catherine Tate, Billie Piper, and Freema Agyeman will all return as well. If you’re a fan, the problems with this are obvious enough, but I hope they’re treated well; I really dug Tate’s performance as Donna.

So there you go. As always, treat this as unsubstantiated rumor. We’ll know more in the coming months.

But if it’s true: Woohoo!

Or more precisely, Whohoo!

Tip o’ the sonic screwdriver to FlickFilosopher.

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March 20th, 2009 11:26 AM by Phil Plait in SciFi, TV/Movies | 25 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

25 Responses to “Doctor Who specials finale rumor”

  1. 1.   yumenoko Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Tate would be back? Very interesting to see how they play Donna into it since she was, um, wiped. She was my fave companion of recent years (never an episode where I didn’t laugh and tell my tv screen, “oh snap, you GO girl!”) so this please me. XD

  2. 2.   highschoolphysics Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Next time you type spoilers, could you just type them out in white font? That way if people want to read they can just highlight the text.

  3. 3.   OtherRob Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Anyone know when we’ll get the new episodes here in the U.S.? The last one the Sci-Fi Channel showed was Journey’s End.

    And, Phil, I’m surprised you haven’t said anything about the Sci-Fi Channel’s amazingly boneheaded new name…

  4. 4.   Larian LeQuella Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    If you’re a fan, the problems with this are obvious enough, but I hope they’re treated well

    Well, they DO have a bloody time machine at their disposal! :P

  5. 5.   Brian Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Actually, shouldn’t that be, Woowho!

  6. 6.   Tyler Durden Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    “And, Phil, I’m surprised you haven’t said anything about the Sci-Fi Channel’s amazingly boneheaded new name…”

    It was inevitable that they change their name, since they are no longer actually a Science Fiction network – as evidenced by featuring pro wrestling in their prime time lineup.

  7. 7.   Pieter Kok Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    highschoolphysics: the massive white space was not enough?

    Larian LeQuella: you beat me to it! :-)

  8. 8.   sophia8 Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Phil, it’s John Simm. Right, I’m off to the fan forums right now!

  9. 9.   Fizzle Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Unfortunately MSM is copying this word for word from the Sun (Link here http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article2329695.ece)

  10. 10.   Aaron Adelman Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Of course, you do realize that all these rumors are nothing more than an insidious plot on the part of the Fendhal…

  11. 11.   The Science Pundit Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    @Pieter Kok

    highschoolphysics: the massive white space was not enough?

    Not really–especially since the spoiler wasn’t under any fold. The white space is only effective if a reader isn’t interested in anything below the whitespace. But what about readers who are interested in the other posts on the blog but don’t want to see the spoilers? That might be a minority, but still …

  12. 12.   Nemo Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    The Master never dies. (Or rather, he appears to die, over and over, to no lasting effect.)

  13. 13.   Dave Lartigue Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    I really don’t care if I never see Rose again, They have completely beaten that character into the ground. When will we finally be rid of her?

  14. 14.   OtherRob Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    It was inevitable that they change their name, since they are no longer actually a Science Fiction network – as evidenced by featuring pro wrestling in their prime time lineup.

    Well there is that. I wonder if the wrestling is helping them with their stated goal of attracting more women. ;)

  15. 15.   Phil Plait Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Ah, I corrected Simm’s name. I saw it misspelled on another site, and copied it. That’s pretty funny.

  16. 16.   Rae Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I don’t know if this is true or not. Could be complete rubbish since it started off in The Sun…but we really do need a more coherent ending to the Rose/Ten story than we had in Journey’s End.

    I was flattened by the fandom accepting the badly stitched together final few minutes. Even RTD notes in his book that it was absolutely out of character for Rose to go meekly off into a new life with a man the Doctor says made the wrong choice about the Daleks. Only someone who had paid no attention at all to anything in 4 years of relentless RTD support of the Doctor/Rose romance, could say that Rose would be happy (or for that matter STAY) in that situation.

    She never stayed put before…and she hardly “got what she wanted” this time…she got stuck babysitting. Last time she was told to stay put she set right down to building a dimension cannon to come back…she took the TARDIS heart into her head when the Doctor sent her off the first time and she blipped right back into certain death the second time. The canon itself tells us that Blue is not the same man as Ten…he may think like him…but he made different choices…and Rose points out that he’s not HER Doctor. He may well be A DOCTOR…like Eleven, though.

    However, all of that said, it is past time to wrap up Rose’s storyline…and I think this will wrap it up. It can be done quite easily if we think about it involving the Master…or it can be done just by showing (via one of those patented Doctor Who Regeneration Flashbacks with all the companions in it) that somehow Rose and Blue managed to get on together despite his being part Donna Noble and “born in fire.”

  17. 17.   Tallbright Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    What about Martha? She was totally the best companion. Donna’s few moments of comedy came from her inability to grasp the situation. I was annoyed the whole time by her. Martha spent a year on Master controlled Earth telling everyone about the Doctor, she rocked. With Rose, comes Ri…er..Micky. And he’s played out.

    Phil, I’m moving to Boulder at the end of this month, you’re going down in a Dr. Debate.

  18. 18.   OtherRob Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Tallbright, I *much* preferred Martha to Rose. Nothing wrong with Rose, just liked Martha better. And, frankly, I think it’s past time to let Rose go. And Donna did eventually grow on me. I really enjoyed watching her growth as a character.

  19. 19.   Chris D. Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Sonic? Laser. Who’d have sonic?

  20. 20.   ZorkFox Says:
    March 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I thought The Master was in Series 3 with Martha not Series 4, with Donna.

    Rose is still my favorite companion, but I agree with the others that it is past time for her character arc to be completed, and that the “resolution” of it was extremely limp.

  21. 21.   Calli Arcale Says:
    March 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am

    I really really really hope that we don’t see all three companion ladies of the new era return. Considering how holier-than-thou Davies was at the beginning about “reunion” episodes, he sure seems to like them….

    That said, I would like to see John Simms again. I see no problem with bringing him back. They did it with Anthony Ainley’s Master repeatedly. The most egregious example was probably the end of “Planet of Fire”, where he was apparently vaporized, yet showed up a season later absolutely no worse for the wear, in “Mark of the Rani”. Not even a smudge on his black velvet Trakenite outfit.

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    March 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm

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  23. 23.   IBY Says:
    March 24th, 2009 at 1:35 am

    I just hope they just don’t shove all the characters together uselessly like they did in series 4 finale.

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    April 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm

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  25. 25.   Emma Morris Says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    The master as definatley in series three. I cant believe David Tennant is leaving Dr who he will be missed terribly because i am a fan of david tennant hes great actor. Also i would like to say that all the Doctors companions should be in it to say a fair well to the doctor.
    I think Martha jones played by freema agyeman was the great companion ever for the doctor.

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