Comments on: Turtles all the way down http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:28:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ras http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-224595 ras Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:09:53 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-224595 well.. i don't ever think whether God exit or not... but i love YOUR sentence "why can’t you ask the same thing of God?" & .. """science learns."""" may be d god is phenomenon which comes under d science of mind... its hard to explain people when they see god n science on opposite sides... basically.. may be science n religion are opponent!!!!!!! :) :) well..
i don’t ever think whether God exit or not…

but i love YOUR sentence “why can’t you ask the same thing of God?”

& .. “”"science learns.”"”"

may be d god is phenomenon which comes under d science of mind…

its hard to explain people when they see god n science on opposite sides… basically.. may be science n religion are opponent!!!!!!!

:)
:)

]]> By: friedegg http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-223383 friedegg Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:18:08 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-223383 To Phil: I guess you believe everything you read. Substantiate your faith with science not more trivia. To Phil:

I guess you believe everything you read.
Substantiate your faith with science not more trivia.

]]> By: friedegg http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-223381 friedegg Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:14:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-223381 The fundamental tenet of God that seems lost in many of us is that there is no separation of God and Science. The reason some can read the signs, is that they are simply reading the fractals of creative energy that exist within a framework of atomic particles in both harmony and disharmony creating a balanced equation that is life. So if you ask me if God exists, prove it...I say look around you. And if someone says that God exists but I can't prove it, I say you just did (consciousness). The faith is an integral component of the scientific nature of our surroundings. The problem with considering the Big Bang as truth and saying that God created the Big Bang or even that there exists a metaverse outside is as ridiculous as saying that there is a a shadow photon. A shadow photon is defined to explain the unexplainable. And time is meaningless in our definitions so don't muddle the argument with time paradox. God is not defineable in our terms for those who have faith. Those who don't simply can't comprehend a greater power, and well, there opinion is biased and should truly be considered sampling error due to observer bias (or blinded). The same can be true for those with faith who have nothing better to do than to berate the unbelievers or those of other faiths. Hello?...who made you God? Science allows for mutiplicity of genomic phenomena; so why not religion? The facts are facts and the faith is faith. One day all will be revealed in both science and faith and the facts will be plain for all to see. Science = Faith Disprove that! Or better yet, don't and simply end this argument and just be happy to live your lives with a loving family and make peace with your neighbour. That is the scientific reality of faith. 1 good deed x Y = Z. Conjugate that and rest happy that you are all faithful. The fundamental tenet of God that seems lost in many of us is that there is no separation of God and Science.
The reason some can read the signs, is that they are simply reading the fractals of creative energy that exist within a framework of atomic particles in both harmony and disharmony creating a balanced equation that is life.
So if you ask me if God exists, prove it…I say look around you.
And if someone says that God exists but I can’t prove it, I say you just did (consciousness).
The faith is an integral component of the scientific nature of our surroundings.
The problem with considering the Big Bang as truth and saying that God created the Big Bang or even that there exists a metaverse outside is as ridiculous as saying that there is a a shadow photon.
A shadow photon is defined to explain the unexplainable.
And time is meaningless in our definitions so don’t muddle the argument with time paradox.
God is not defineable in our terms for those who have faith.
Those who don’t simply can’t comprehend a greater power, and well, there opinion is biased and should truly be considered sampling error due to observer bias (or blinded).
The same can be true for those with faith who have nothing better to do than to berate the unbelievers or those of other faiths. Hello?…who made you God? Science allows for mutiplicity of genomic phenomena; so why not religion?

The facts are facts and the faith is faith.
One day all will be revealed in both science and faith and the facts will be plain for all to see.

Science = Faith
Disprove that!
Or better yet, don’t and simply end this argument and just be happy to live your lives with a loving family and make peace with your neighbour.
That is the scientific reality of faith.
1 good deed x Y = Z.
Conjugate that and rest happy that you are all faithful.

]]> By: Phil Plait http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-223377 Phil Plait Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:03:25 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-223377 fried egg (#309): That's easy. Read this: <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/18/is-science-faith-based/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Science is not faith-based</a>. Next! fried egg (#309): That’s easy. Read this: Science is not faith-based.

Next!

]]> By: friedegg http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-223376 friedegg Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:54:53 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-223376 The fundamental tenet of God that seems lost in many of us is that there is no separation of God and Science. The reason some can read the signs, is that they are simply reading the fractals of creative energy that exist within a framework of atomic particles in both harmony and disharmony creating a balanced equation that is life. So if you ask me if God exists, prove it...I say look around you. And if someone asks that God doesn't exist, where is he, I say look around you. The faith is an integral component of the scientific nature of our surroundings. The problem with considering the Big Bang as truth and saying that God created the Big Bang or even that there exists a metaverse outside is as ridiculous as saying that there is a a shadow photon. A shadow photon is defined to explain the unexplainable. And time is meaningless in our definitions so don't muddle the argument with time paradox. God is not defineable in our terms for those who have faith. Those who don't simply can't comprehend a greater power, well, there opinion is biased and should truly be considered sampling error due to observer bias (or blinded). The same can be true for those with faith who have nothing better to do than to berate the unbelievers or those of other faiths. Hello?...who made you God? The facts are facts and the faith is faith. One day all will be revealed in both science and faith and the facts will be plain for all to see. Science = Faith Disprove that! The fundamental tenet of God that seems lost in many of us is that there is no separation of God and Science.
The reason some can read the signs, is that they are simply reading the fractals of creative energy that exist within a framework of atomic particles in both harmony and disharmony creating a balanced equation that is life.
So if you ask me if God exists, prove it…I say look around you.
And if someone asks that God doesn’t exist, where is he, I say look around you.
The faith is an integral component of the scientific nature of our surroundings.
The problem with considering the Big Bang as truth and saying that God created the Big Bang or even that there exists a metaverse outside is as ridiculous as saying that there is a a shadow photon.
A shadow photon is defined to explain the unexplainable.
And time is meaningless in our definitions so don’t muddle the argument with time paradox.
God is not defineable in our terms for those who have faith.
Those who don’t simply can’t comprehend a greater power, well, there opinion is biased and should truly be considered sampling error due to observer bias (or blinded).
The same can be true for those with faith who have nothing better to do than to berate the unbelievers or those of other faiths. Hello?…who made you God?

The facts are facts and the faith is faith.
One day all will be revealed in both science and faith and the facts will be plain for all to see.

Science = Faith
Disprove that!

]]> By: keithschricker http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/comment-page-7/#comment-222909 keithschricker Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:07:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/25/turtles-all-the-way-down/#comment-222909 Is it not more plausable that we were created.Look at your hand and consider the other options out there, a tenticle, a crab's claw, would notthese things be just as effective as your own hand? Most scientists can not fathom the Darwinian explanation they simply do not calculate the infathomable odds against the cosmic mistake argument. If you actually research the theory you find that Darwin saw it as a tool of God. It was Huxley who wanted to make it into an alternative religion so as to eliminate the fact that there are places in the bible where homosexual relations with children are against the laws of the old testament Is it not more plausable that we were created.Look at your hand and consider the other options out there, a tenticle, a crab’s claw, would notthese things be just as effective as your own hand?
Most scientists can not fathom the Darwinian explanation they simply do not calculate the infathomable odds against the cosmic mistake argument.

If you actually research the theory you find that Darwin saw it as a tool of God. It was Huxley who wanted to make it into an alternative religion so as to eliminate the fact that there are places in the bible where homosexual relations with children are against the laws of the old testament

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