Everything takes faith. When you believe what you are told in science that is faith. When you sit down you have faith that he chair will hold you up. If you look at the earth you can tell that it is not an accident. The Lord wants us to reason, He tells us so in His Word.

1. Exactly what do you understand ‘creationism’ to be?

2. Where did the gasses come from that everything ‘created’ came from?

3. Why are you able to form such intricate thoughts and questions – as opposed to an ape, for example?

4. Why does every person on earth – past, present and future – have different fingerprints?

You have still not proven that we are wrong, yet you say we are off by millions.

And here we have the old, “Because you do it and you say it is still wrong I won’t believe you.” Here is a comparison, a man who has taken drugs his whole life comes to his sons and daughters and says that they must never take drugs because it will ruin their lives. They won’t believe him because he has commited the act of taking drugs. So, they take drugs. Just so Evolutionists say, “Because Chreationists have sinned and formerly believed in evolution and now say it is wrong, we will sin and believe in evolution. I have run out of time, so I will say this. The truth will set you free, and the truth is in the Bible. Look and see.

The following is to free your mind of ignorance and tyranny. I hope you gleam a small bit of useful information from the following passages. What role religion is playing in America today? We live in a rare time and country where the individual can choose for themselves how much or little Religion we want in our lives, but religion’s followers just don’t understand the word no! Not in my life not in my schools not in my government, NO! People have the right to decide for themselves what direction there lives take, and a woman’s choice to decide whether to get an abortion or not, or two people in love to marry no matter there sexual orientation, it is there choice. But sadly the followers of the Christian god or Jesus, or the many other religions’ want to make that decision for us all, embryonic stem cell research that could save millions if not more from disease pain and suffering have to take a back seat to these religions follower who influence our government time and time again, They are trying to convert the USA into a Christian state.

First: religion is in no way real. The word religion or god is nothing more than an expression or product of human fear and weaknesses. The Bible, a collection of ancient myths and stories borrowed or stolen from many different cultures, which have no real value. No interpretation no matter how subtle can change this for them. Religion, as an idea has been with us before recorded history from the caveman’s worshiping of fire to the catholic’s murder of the innocent throughout its history. Some folks caught in this complicated delusion crafted to take advantage of the powerless, weak minded, or fanatical. Want it to be real, because they have so much of there lives invested in it. They have fallen to the trap and are forever locked in its embrace. Religions coerced observance is how they operate; Worship Me or you will be tortured for all eternity. Signed, God! Coerced belief is Tyranny! Remember the Dark Age’s religion ruled in that dark distant past. It didn’t serve our ancestors well back then and it will not serve us well today.

Second: religion no longer has a place in the real world. It is dividing us as a people to take sides to choose logic over ignorance to forsake the future for the past. With that in mind religion should not infringe in anyway a schools teaching of science, or the office of government, or used to consider new laws! This country was not founded on the rule of Christianity! The time for killing in the name of your god or the burning of witches, belief in a flat earth, or priest harming children or religions attempts at interfering with the progress of science, or its many other crimes against humanity is over. Point 1.14 Book of Knowledge Only a fool follows blindly and without question. Unfortunately there are too many powerless and weak minded people willing to give up there freedom, there hard earned money to fanatical charlatans spreading deceit. The servant of the Christian god said “Have faith in this book, the (Holy Bible) it was inspired by our god and you must follow its teachings or your soul is damned for eternity, elect only those who follow the bibles teaching, and denounce those who do not, donate your money to help us buy support for our cause, and when you die you will be shown the truth”. There is a sucker born every minute.

Book of Knowledge

Here’s Chris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&feature=related

Here’s Paul Washer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t61uHOJnpvA

>>>”It is complex and intricate in all aspects and I glorify God for creating something so amazing and deep as science, even though, sadly (in my opinion) most scientists use science to disprove the God who loved them enough to give them science to enjoy.”

Scientists are not trying to disprove God, because God is not scientific. Atheists have the opinion that He may not/does not exist, and that’s their perogative. However, the original point still stands, which is that creationism, as it sticks to a more literal interpretation of the Bible is bad religion as it attempts to deny reality for the sake of dogma.

Note carefully on reading the Abraham/Isaac story (Gen. 22) that when Abe comes down from the ‘sacrifice’ that there is NO mention of Isaac being with him…..

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Try :

www (dot) thebricktestament (dot) com (slash)
judges (slash) jephthah_kills_his_virgin_daughter (slash)
jg11_34 (dot) html

(THX to whoever first posted the lego bibble site on another thread. IVAN3MAN I think.)

Incidentally, the bibble notes that Jephthah’s sacrificed daughter – who doesn’t even get her name recorded – was apparently a virgin which is somehow meant to matter ..

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Duplicate comment you say computer? Huh? Why isn’t it appearing then? I’ve waited I’ve refreshed the page and still .. nada. Odd. Sorry if it does come through twice. Okay taken link out & trying again ..

The big bang theory is often held up as a prime example of something that is rejected by religious people. But when you look into its history, the big bang theory is actually a prime example of religion and science coming together in harmony.

The big bang theory (though it wasn’t called that name at the time) was first seriously proposed by a chap called Georges Lemaitre, who was both a professor of astronomy, professor of physics, an astrophysicist… and a catholic priest. He continued to be devoted to both religion and science throughout his entire life. He was advocating an expanding universe when Einstein was still rejecting it, and eventually Lemaitre’s view became the view of most astronomers today.

In other words, someone who had devoted their life to a belief in god was also advocating an unpopular scientific view which is now held by the majority of mainstream astronomers. How on earth can that be possible if religious faith is supposed to prevent scientific aptitude? How was the priest right and Einstein (of all people) wrong? It’s because Lemaitre wasn’t just a priest, he was also a scientist, who used scientific methods when drawing conclusions from empirical evidence. He proved it was perfectly possible to have a foot in both camps.

This isn’t an isolated case either, for example Newton wrote more about religion than he did about physics, yet this side of his work is very rarely mentioned when his memory is evoked as a founding father of modern physics.

The trouble is, religious scientists are treated as non-existent oxymorons, destined to be edited or even airbrushed out by extremists on both sides of this artificial science-religion divide. Extremists want simple things to be true, want simple battle lines between “US” and “THEM”, so that insults can be hurled while ignoring the vast amount of collateral damage it does to all the moderates in the middle.

We’ve got to stop seeing this as a war, it isn’t. Most of this conflict is extremely artificial and stirred up by hardcore extremists with axes to grind.

It is perfectly possible to be deeply religious and have a distinguished career in empirical evidence-based physical science. That’s not an opinion or a hope, that’s a historical fact. Anyone who claims otherwise is out of touch with reality.

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Isn’t this the same thing as a retarded kid saying, “I knew the other kids would call me a retard before they even did it! This mean’s I’m really a genius!”

To me science is something God created. It is complex and intricate in all aspects and I glorify God for creating something so amazing and deep as science, even though, sadly (in my opinion) most scientists use science to disprove the God who loved them enough to give them science to enjoy.