Right?

Here’s what happens in the Real World after only a couple days on the moon:

CNN, April 20, 2009 – Astronaut Edgar Mitchell claims there “is no doubt we are being visited.” Mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, asserted Monday that extraterrestrial life exists, and that the truth is being concealed by the U.S. and other governments. He delivered his remarks during an appearance at the National Press Club following the conclusion of the fifth annual X-Conference, a meeting of UFO activists and researchers studying the possibility of alien life forms. Mankind has long wondered if we’re “alone in the universe. But only in our period do we really have evidence. No, we’re not alone,” Mitchell said. “Our destiny, in my opinion, and we might as well get started with it, is [to] become a part of the planetary community. … We should be ready to reach out beyond our planet and beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there.” Mitchell grew up in Roswell, New Mexico, which some UFO believers maintain was the site of a UFO crash in 1947. He said residents of his hometown “had been hushed and told not to talk about their experience by military authorities.” They had been warned of “dire consequences” if they did so.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html

In 2004 he told the St. Petersburg Times that a “cabal of insiders” inside the US Government were studying recovered alien bodies, and that this group had stopped briefing US presidents after John F. Kennedy.[7] He said, “We all know that UFOs are real; now the question is, where they come from?”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell

Note that neither CNN nor NASA know how to spell the word Moon, unless they’re talking about something else?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon

Who censored Bart Sibrel?
http://www.moonmovie.com/articles_2009/speak-no-evil-youtube-censors-free-speech.htm

Agreed, there is a percentage of MH people who are nuts and won’t accept anything. I’m not one of them. The things I mentioned before would satisfy me completely, and I’ll apologize.

@Todd

NASA have built into it a POWERFUL independent chain of evidence component, like bringing a civilian that was voted for, along for the ride?

Why? What reason did they have at the time to think that anyone would raise any of the questions moon hoaxers raise?

Agreed. They couldn’t have anticipated it that well. However, my main point is this is what I myself DEMAND, and I can’t speak for the MH community: They’re going back to moon in probably 2020. I would like to see them have a study committee to figure out how to retrieve the Apollo hardware (a reasonable percent of it), to satisfy the critical community (that is my preferred term for the MH ers). It should include guys like Bart Sibrel, and they should do a 5 year study of who this team should include, acceptable to all parties in the issue; and a plan to return some of this to the Smithsonian for the whole world to see for eternity, and some people from the committee to pass down the authenticity of the evidence pledge through time.

If they do this, I myself will go to the Smithsonian, and apologize to you guys personally.

But it boils down to whose burden of proof it is: moon hoaxers say “NASA put up or shut up” ; anti-moon hoaxers say : “MH, you put up or shut up”.
That is the stalemate we’ll be at until they really do produce hard evidence.

But see, the hoax believers have not provided any evidence, while NASA, and other governments and independent observers (which you seem to continuously ignore), have provided quite a large amount of evidence.

Shouldn’t NASA have built into it a POWERFUL independent chain of evidence component, like bringing a civilian that was voted for, along for the ride?

Why? What reason did they have at the time to think that anyone would raise any of the questions moon hoaxers raise? Especially considering that they were being watched very closely by others, many of whom were not at all friendly to the U.S. and would, as Mark Hansen points out, jump at the opportunity to show the U.S. out as frauds. And considering the training and physical requirements of space flight, why accept someone to include simply because they were voted for? What if they lacked the physical or intellectual qualities necessary? And even then, hoax believers would still explain it away, saying that THEY got to the person. Even if it was Bart Sibrel, they’d say that the government got to him and made him crack, poor fellow.