@ Todd W . Current Gate keeper

You ascribe to me status that I do no have. I am but a humble commenter on the blog.

And what exactly is the difference between one Flu Hysteria and the next

Did you read the link I provided you to Dr. Albietz’ article? It doesn’t seem like you did. Please go read that (as well as the other posts at Science-Based Medicine blog on the H1N1 virus and vaccine). Likewise, it seems you have not read a single thing I’ve written describing the differences between 1976 and now.

Nazi’s ? Heil yes !

How many times must it be said, no one is requiring vaccination against anyone’s will. We are, however, strongly recommending vaccination.

Where will you stop — a thousand vaccines for every malady ?

Your ability to count seems to be impaired. What malady has thousands of vaccines?

I said ” crippled or killed thousands” not “Killed thousands”

From what I was able to find, only 532 cases of GBS were linked to the 1976 vaccine, and there were 25 deaths. Hardly “thousands” as you claim. Provide a link that shows otherwise, preferably from a scientific source. And keep in mind, that was out of over 48 million doses of the vaccine administered.

We are on to you — back off .

How many people have you got in there? Who am I talking to now, Sybil?

I could give you dozens of links saying this is Bullsh-t from just as credible sources .

I just asked you for one citation that the contaminated material was meant for human use. I’m still waiting.

But here is one for you as to Health care Workers being dubious

From what I understand, a lot of hospitals are implementing a policy where those healthcare workers who refuse the vaccination will be required to wear a special mask that will prevent the staff from being infected by patients or infecting patients. It is also my understanding that the types of masks that can offer this sort of protection are not particularly comfortable to wear for an entire shift. Regardless, healthcare workers are just as susceptible as anyone else to irrational beliefs, such as believing that the influenza vaccine is more dangerous than the flu.

Moderation when it comes to injecting Genetic Material and Chemical Gooblety-Gook into the Bloodstream

Once again, vaccines (which I assume you mean by “Genetic Material and Chemical Gooblety-Gook”) are not injected into the bloodstream.

As to the Australian article you linked to, I note that one of the main objections of insurers was the use of multi-dose vials:

But the insurers believe the distribution of the vaccine in multiple-dose vials exposes people to unnecessary risk of blood-borne infection from other recipients.

The only way that would be a risk is if the doctors are using the same syringes for multiple patients without sterilizing them. And that would be a risk even with single-dose vials and has nothing to do with the vaccine itself, anyway. Further, insurers fearing losses due to suits against doctors administering the vaccines most likely stems from the realization that people want something to blame when they get hurt and that people are not very good at differentiating correlation and causation. So, if they go ahead with their program, people that suffer any manner of adverse turn in health anytime after receiving the vaccine may claim that the vaccine was to blame, regardless of whether there was a plausible causal relationship or not. Even if the person is wrong, the insurer and physicians still lose money because of the costs associated with defending their cases.

At any rate, the article you linked to does not provide any support to your claims.

Do not bother responding to me until you have read and comprehended the post I linked to, as well as the other articles at SBM on the swine flu.

so let’s handle it like we did the last Swine Flu Pandemic Hysteria back in 1976 and kill and maim thousands with a rushed vaccine ,for a Flu that killed exactly one person.

Apparently, you do not realize the difference between the unique situation that happened in 1976 and the current strain, even after I tried explaining the difference some. Also, please give a citation that “thousands” were killed. Can’t find one? Didn’t think so, because “thousands” did not die.

following shortly after receiving the 1976 “Swine Flu Vaccine” — but you will say “Anecdotal Evidence ” — I will say “perfectly healthy until that shot which crippled or killed thousands

You’re right, it is an anecdote. Further, it is a single data point, which hardly is enough to condemn anything. As to whether or not your condition was, in fact, caused by the vaccine, I can’t say. Your development of symptoms after receiving the vaccine may have been mere coincidence, or you may have had lupus already that was exacerbated by the vaccine. I’m not aware of any means that a vaccine could cause lupus, but I’m willing to read the scientific studies that you provide to support such a supposition.

being Medically exempt from taking your mandated vaccines — see I have “Lupus” and take lots of Prednisone on a daily basis

If you have a medical reason for not receiving a vaccine, then of course you should not receive it. So, when you say

you and your fellow Reichministers will be labeling me a public heath menace and seek to either ” Kill me with a vaccine” or at best round me up
into some sort of Anti -Vaxer Gulag Archipelago

You’re wrong, again.

here I am , I will be awaiting the Cattle Car to transport me — will I be able to take a shower when I get there ?

Wow. So, we’re Nazis, now? Just…wow. Your tone seems at odds with what you claimed earlier:

Once again –I only argue for caution and moderation , which I feel would be totally reasonable when it comes to injecting genetic material into the bloodstream.

Those of us supporting vaccination are likened to fascist war criminals. Yep, that sounds like you’re arguing for moderation, all right.

And you still did not provide any citations that the contaminated material was meant for human use. I guess you couldn’t find any.

As to the vaccine that is being developed for the new H1N1 swine flu (which is a different, much more easily-spread strain than the 1976 strain – take a read of Joe Albietz’s article at http://tinyurl.com/nwa6c8 for a little more info on this), preliminary results from the clinical trials have not had any adverse reactions other than pain and swelling at the injection site.

Nothing to say other than ” Don’t pass this Herd Immunity rationalization off on us ”
Most of us feel that our bodies are our own and some of us have our own medical philosophies .
Some of us feel that injected foreign DNA ,RNA ,etc. into the Human body , without restraint,
is a very — very stupid thing to do .
I personally have no dog in this fight , being Medically exempt from taking your mandated vaccines — see I have “Lupus” and take lots of Prednisone on a daily basis — and I developed
“Lupus” — following shortly after receiving the 1976 “Swine Flu Vaccine” — but you will say
“Anecdotal Evidence ” — I will say “perfectly healthy until that shot which crippled or killed thousands —-
But ” exempt or not , I suspect , you and your fellow Reichministers will be labeling me a public heath menace and seek to either ” Kill me with a vaccine” or at best round me up
into some sort of Anti -Vaxer Gulag Archipelago —- here I am , I will be awaiting the Cattle Car to transport me — will I be able to take a shower when I get there ?