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	<title>Comments on: New burst vaporizes cosmic distance record</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: BA Review: Star Trek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/28/new-burst-vaporizes-cosmic-distance-record/comment-page-2/#comment-184180</link>
		<dc:creator>BA Review: Star Trek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had Abrams called me, I would’ve told him to use a gamma-ray burst, not a supernova. GRBs are like super-supernovae, where instead of the explosion moving outward in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had Abrams called me, I would’ve told him to use a gamma-ray burst, not a supernova. GRBs are like super-supernovae, where instead of the explosion moving outward in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BA Review: Star Trek &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/28/new-burst-vaporizes-cosmic-distance-record/comment-page-2/#comment-182230</link>
		<dc:creator>BA Review: Star Trek &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 05:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had Abrams called me, I would&#8217;ve told him to use a gamma-ray burst, not a supernova. GRBs are like super-supernovae, where instead of the explosion moving outward in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had Abrams called me, I would&#8217;ve told him to use a gamma-ray burst, not a supernova. GRBs are like super-supernovae, where instead of the explosion moving outward in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/28/new-burst-vaporizes-cosmic-distance-record/comment-page-2/#comment-178715</link>
		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was wondering why you had not been making any comments there. I registered on day #1 and I had no problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

An honour being missed, too bad that it does not help. The next problem is that I cannot try again with the same nick and the same address, because it is already used (of course). Dammit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was wondering why you had not been making any comments there. I registered on day #1 and I had no problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>An honour being missed, too bad that it does not help. The next problem is that I cannot try again with the same nick and the same address, because it is already used (of course). Dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Marking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/28/new-burst-vaporizes-cosmic-distance-record/comment-page-2/#comment-178693</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Marking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scibuff &quot;For redshifts greater than 0.8, the relationship between redshift and distance is more complex, as account has to be made of many other factors. This is the distance formula&quot;

Oooo, that&#039;s a very nasty integration.  The reciprocal of a square root of a cube plus a square.  I guess that&#039;s what computers are for.  Thanks for the calculator.

Playing around with some of the numbers in the calculator I get:

H0 = 71
Omega-M = 0.27
Omega-Vac = 0.73
Z = 8.2
Current age of universe = 13.666 Gyr
Initial age of universe when photon started = 0.63 Gyr
light travel time = 13.035 Gyr
Comoving radial distance = 30.017 Gly
Comoving volume within redshift Z = 3265.010 cubic Gpc
Luminosity distance = 276.142 Gly

The path length of the photon is 13.035 billion light-years in this case.  Changing the parameters I find it very hard to come up with a photon path length of more than ~30 billion light-years and if I do the age of the universe is longer than ~13 billion years.  So it doesn&#039;t seem that 46.5 billion light-years is a credible number.  Maybe that is the comoving distance, not the path length of the photon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scibuff &#8220;For redshifts greater than 0.8, the relationship between redshift and distance is more complex, as account has to be made of many other factors. This is the distance formula&#8221;</p>
<p>Oooo, that&#8217;s a very nasty integration.  The reciprocal of a square root of a cube plus a square.  I guess that&#8217;s what computers are for.  Thanks for the calculator.</p>
<p>Playing around with some of the numbers in the calculator I get:</p>
<p>H0 = 71<br />
Omega-M = 0.27<br />
Omega-Vac = 0.73<br />
Z = 8.2<br />
Current age of universe = 13.666 Gyr<br />
Initial age of universe when photon started = 0.63 Gyr<br />
light travel time = 13.035 Gyr<br />
Comoving radial distance = 30.017 Gly<br />
Comoving volume within redshift Z = 3265.010 cubic Gpc<br />
Luminosity distance = 276.142 Gly</p>
<p>The path length of the photon is 13.035 billion light-years in this case.  Changing the parameters I find it very hard to come up with a photon path length of more than ~30 billion light-years and if I do the age of the universe is longer than ~13 billion years.  So it doesn&#8217;t seem that 46.5 billion light-years is a credible number.  Maybe that is the comoving distance, not the path length of the photon.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/04/28/new-burst-vaporizes-cosmic-distance-record/comment-page-2/#comment-178354</link>
		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom Marking - thanks a lot,  that was a good explanation.  I&#039;d assumed 46.5 billion ly was predicated on assuming some specific cosmological model, but I couldn&#039;t figure out which one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom Marking &#8211; thanks a lot,  that was a good explanation.  I&#8217;d assumed 46.5 billion ly was predicated on assuming some specific cosmological model, but I couldn&#8217;t figure out which one.</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DrFlimmer,

I was wondering why you had not been making any comments there. I registered on day #1 and I had no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DrFlimmer,</p>
<p>I was wondering why you had not been making any comments there. I registered on day #1 and I had no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tom Marking:

Is your life so boring or how long did you need to make all these calculations?
Nontheless, they are very interesting, thanks a lot!

Btw: I hate it that I cannot register on Universe Today for some reasons (I don&#039;t receive the confirmation mail and I tried two different addresses).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tom Marking:</p>
<p>Is your life so boring or how long did you need to make all these calculations?<br />
Nontheless, they are very interesting, thanks a lot!</p>
<p>Btw: I hate it that I cannot register on Universe Today for some reasons (I don&#8217;t receive the confirmation mail and I tried two different addresses).</p>
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