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	<title>Comments on: Oprah: Shame on you.</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-5/#comment-423529</link>
		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, Oprah is the corporate world.  If you think she is against it you are not correct.  She just has you believing that she is like you, a regular working stiff.  She isn&#039;t.  She is the same as any corrupt corporate executive.  She also is being over paid for what she does and part of her act is to convince the weak minded that she is generous and her opinions are all truth.  Politically, she is for spending your money, while keeping her own.  I&#039;ve heard the business billionaires say they aren&#039;t taxed enough.  I&#039;ve never heard one of the Hollywood billionaires say that.  I&#039;ve heard that several corporate billionaires say they will be giving away all of their earned riches.  I haven&#039;t heard the Hollywood set say that yet.  Hmmm, what am I missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, Oprah is the corporate world.  If you think she is against it you are not correct.  She just has you believing that she is like you, a regular working stiff.  She isn&#8217;t.  She is the same as any corrupt corporate executive.  She also is being over paid for what she does and part of her act is to convince the weak minded that she is generous and her opinions are all truth.  Politically, she is for spending your money, while keeping her own.  I&#8217;ve heard the business billionaires say they aren&#8217;t taxed enough.  I&#8217;ve never heard one of the Hollywood billionaires say that.  I&#8217;ve heard that several corporate billionaires say they will be giving away all of their earned riches.  I haven&#8217;t heard the Hollywood set say that yet.  Hmmm, what am I missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Oprah moet zich schamen &#171; Ernst-Jan Pfauth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-5/#comment-418180</link>
		<dc:creator>Oprah moet zich schamen &#171; Ernst-Jan Pfauth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; zonder ze kritisch te interviewen &#8211; vertellen over kwakzalverachtige geneeswijzen. Kortom Oprah, Shame on you.     Categories: Cultuur Tags: Bad Astronomy, oprah, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; zonder ze kritisch te interviewen &#8211; vertellen over kwakzalverachtige geneeswijzen. Kortom Oprah, Shame on you.     Categories: Cultuur Tags: Bad Astronomy, oprah, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on Oprah and Kim Tinkham &#171; rationalbrain</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-347275</link>
		<dc:creator>More on Oprah and Kim Tinkham &#171; rationalbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oprah Shame on You [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Argumentum ad Verecundiam &#8211; When the authority is wrong &#171; Science and the Media</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-316005</link>
		<dc:creator>Argumentum ad Verecundiam &#8211; When the authority is wrong &#171; Science and the Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] said that it wasn&#8217;t the answer to everything. When faced with the mentioned Newsweek article, Oprah issued a statement that basically said she never meant for people to take her advice for gospel truth and that she [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] said that it wasn&#8217;t the answer to everything. When faced with the mentioned Newsweek article, Oprah issued a statement that basically said she never meant for people to take her advice for gospel truth and that she [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Best Journalism and Blogging of 2009! &#124; ICED BORSCHT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-249905</link>
		<dc:creator>The Best Journalism and Blogging of 2009! &#124; ICED BORSCHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Oprah, Shame on You,&#8221; by Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Oprah, Shame on You,&#8221; by Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La Ley de Atracción &#171; Ciencia, no ficción</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-213620</link>
		<dc:creator>La Ley de Atracción &#171; Ciencia, no ficción</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Otros links: http://www.newsweek.com/id/36603/page/1 http://www.skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Otros links: <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/36603/page/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/36603/page/1</a> <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html</a> <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Update</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-200489</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oprah:  Shame on you. Phil Plait takes on Oprah&#8217;s embrace of pseudoscience, quackery, and dubious practices like bioidentical hormones. He links to the recent Newsweek cover article. Dr. David Gorski, of the excellent sciencebasedmedicine.com blog, recently wrote about Oprah and her profile of dubious medicine in the Toronto Star. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oprah:  Shame on you. Phil Plait takes on Oprah&#8217;s embrace of pseudoscience, quackery, and dubious practices like bioidentical hormones. He links to the recent Newsweek cover article. Dr. David Gorski, of the excellent sciencebasedmedicine.com blog, recently wrote about Oprah and her profile of dubious medicine in the Toronto Star. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dystopian Lifetime Achievement Award Goes to OPRAH &#124; ICED BORSCHT &#38; Other Delights</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-198488</link>
		<dc:creator>Dystopian Lifetime Achievement Award Goes to OPRAH &#124; ICED BORSCHT &#38; Other Delights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Factory. &#8220;(Oprah) pounds home the New Age nonsense from (Suzanne) Somers and McCarthy,&#8221;  writes Phil Plait, a noted astronomer and gifted scientific mind, &#8220;giving them a platform to relentlessly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Factory. &#8220;(Oprah) pounds home the New Age nonsense from (Suzanne) Somers and McCarthy,&#8221;  writes Phil Plait, a noted astronomer and gifted scientific mind, &#8220;giving them a platform to relentlessly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-192249</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch Oprah or take bioidentical hormones and I have no clue who most of the celebrities that Newsweek cites are--and I&#039;d guess that the writer of this article, and the comment writers, never watch the show either, and don&#039;t really know what they&#039;re talking about. They just take Newsweek&#039;s word for it.

I have no opinion about most of the article. However, I do know about Gardasil, and Newsweek&#039;s ridicule of Dr Christiane Northrup&#039;s absolutely correct assertion that a good diet can help deal with HPV makes me suspect that Newsweek&#039;s research is sadly lacking. Personally, I wouldn&#039;t take that article as gospel any more than I&#039;d take Oprah as gospel.

I find it quite amusing that the writer does. That&#039;s not very scientific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch Oprah or take bioidentical hormones and I have no clue who most of the celebrities that Newsweek cites are&#8211;and I&#8217;d guess that the writer of this article, and the comment writers, never watch the show either, and don&#8217;t really know what they&#8217;re talking about. They just take Newsweek&#8217;s word for it.</p>
<p>I have no opinion about most of the article. However, I do know about Gardasil, and Newsweek&#8217;s ridicule of Dr Christiane Northrup&#8217;s absolutely correct assertion that a good diet can help deal with HPV makes me suspect that Newsweek&#8217;s research is sadly lacking. Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t take that article as gospel any more than I&#8217;d take Oprah as gospel.</p>
<p>I find it quite amusing that the writer does. That&#8217;s not very scientific.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-06-14</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-191869</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-06-14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has lost it. &#8211; http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has lost it. &#8211; <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-191822</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sampson: That&#039;s great in theory, the problem is that a large number of people don&#039;t take what she says with a grain of salt, they accept it as the unquestionable gospel truth.  If everyone was careful and verified her statements before acting on them, we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sampson: That&#8217;s great in theory, the problem is that a large number of people don&#8217;t take what she says with a grain of salt, they accept it as the unquestionable gospel truth.  If everyone was careful and verified her statements before acting on them, we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sampson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-191644</link>
		<dc:creator>Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything should always be taken with a grain of salt.  Including Oprah, and including this article.  One should never listen to only one source, however I understand that it is hard in this day and age to trust any source so one may trust one source as the overarching truth.  I remember watching Oprah with my mother and on many occasions disagreeing, but for the most part she has some valuable information, if you just take it along side other things.  I&#039;m glad this article has surfaced, not because I want to see Oprah attacked, I don&#039;t, but because I think it may help educate the average reader/watcher to look for other sources and other opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything should always be taken with a grain of salt.  Including Oprah, and including this article.  One should never listen to only one source, however I understand that it is hard in this day and age to trust any source so one may trust one source as the overarching truth.  I remember watching Oprah with my mother and on many occasions disagreeing, but for the most part she has some valuable information, if you just take it along side other things.  I&#8217;m glad this article has surfaced, not because I want to see Oprah attacked, I don&#8217;t, but because I think it may help educate the average reader/watcher to look for other sources and other opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting Reading #300 &#8211; The Blogs at HowStuffWorks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-191186</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting Reading #300 &#8211; The Blogs at HowStuffWorks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oprah: Shame on you. &#8211; &#8220;So last week, Newsweek printed a heroic front-page article detailing the antiscientific medical swill Oprah Winfrey has been routinely doling out to her audiences. This nonsense includes, of course, Jenny McCarthy, as well as dangerous quackery by Suzanne Somers and others. The article really slams Oprah hard, as well it should&#8230;&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oprah: Shame on you. &#8211; &#8220;So last week, Newsweek printed a heroic front-page article detailing the antiscientific medical swill Oprah Winfrey has been routinely doling out to her audiences. This nonsense includes, of course, Jenny McCarthy, as well as dangerous quackery by Suzanne Somers and others. The article really slams Oprah hard, as well it should&#8230;&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Update &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190933</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Update &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oprah:  Shame on you. Phil Plait takes on Oprah&#8217;s embrace of pseudoscience, quackery, and dubious practices like bioidentical hormones. He links to the recent Newsweek cover article. Dr. David Gorski, of the excellent sciencebasedmedicine.com blog, recently wrote about Oprah and her profile of dubious medicine in the Toronto Star. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oprah:  Shame on you. Phil Plait takes on Oprah&#8217;s embrace of pseudoscience, quackery, and dubious practices like bioidentical hormones. He links to the recent Newsweek cover article. Dr. David Gorski, of the excellent sciencebasedmedicine.com blog, recently wrote about Oprah and her profile of dubious medicine in the Toronto Star. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of the Ring of Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sex, Race, Class, and Easy Targets</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190342</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of the Ring of Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sex, Race, Class, and Easy Targets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her, however, I started to get a knot in my stomach*. Indeed, the absolute virulence displayed in this comments thread at Bad Astronomer shows that my discomfort was there for a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew MW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190332</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew MW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil

FYI, that NZ article is a reprint of this Independent article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oprah-defends-her-experts-accused-of-talking-nonsense-1698770.html

...with a slightly better title, courtesy of PZ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil</p>
<p>FYI, that NZ article is a reprint of this Independent article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oprah-defends-her-experts-accused-of-talking-nonsense-1698770.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oprah-defends-her-experts-accused-of-talking-nonsense-1698770.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230;with a slightly better title, courtesy of PZ&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Kornfeld</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190285</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel Kornfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ andyo: It&#039;s not Brooke&#039;s lack of talent with which I have a problem; it&#039;s the media&#039;s continued indulging of her narcisstic need for attention and upholding of the idea that she is any kind of &quot;celebrity&quot; to begin with. Oprah buys into and validates this media nonsense by keeping up the charade and having people like Brooke on the show not once but multiple times. Acting is a craft with a proud tradition, and the media cheapens it by promoting as &quot;actors&quot; people who do not have one shred of talent.

 And I&#039;m talking about losing respect for Oprah about 20 years ago before all these controversies, not now. For a while it seemed she would be different by focusing on real, often controversial social issues. Unfortunately, she bought into the brain-cell-killing &quot;celebrity culture.&quot; I had expected better than that from her. Like, how about doing a weekly show on an astronomy-related topic as part of IYA?

See Dr. Phil? I&#039;m a not giving a dime to that quack. I&#039;d rather donate money to research about pulsars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ andyo: It&#8217;s not Brooke&#8217;s lack of talent with which I have a problem; it&#8217;s the media&#8217;s continued indulging of her narcisstic need for attention and upholding of the idea that she is any kind of &#8220;celebrity&#8221; to begin with. Oprah buys into and validates this media nonsense by keeping up the charade and having people like Brooke on the show not once but multiple times. Acting is a craft with a proud tradition, and the media cheapens it by promoting as &#8220;actors&#8221; people who do not have one shred of talent.</p>
<p> And I&#8217;m talking about losing respect for Oprah about 20 years ago before all these controversies, not now. For a while it seemed she would be different by focusing on real, often controversial social issues. Unfortunately, she bought into the brain-cell-killing &#8220;celebrity culture.&#8221; I had expected better than that from her. Like, how about doing a weekly show on an astronomy-related topic as part of IYA?</p>
<p>See Dr. Phil? I&#8217;m a not giving a dime to that quack. I&#8217;d rather donate money to research about pulsars!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190267</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy:

Wow, so many ridiculous statements in such a short comment!

First, really, the racist misogyny card? Really? On what evidence in my post do you base that?

Second, as I point out, it&#039;s clear Oprah is endorsing these nonsensical medical beliefs of her guests. It&#039;s clearly spelled out in my post. Did you not read it?

Third, I never said her audience is too stupid to handle controversial ideas. That&#039;s a strawman on your part and totally false. I said that her saying her audience will seek out other advice is baloney. We have evidence that a vast number of people do whatever she says when it comes to consuming what she&#039;s endorsing. 

Fourth, if I have a talk show where I pet puppies all the time, but once a year have a special show where I eat them live, is that OK with you? Will that get a pass?

Fifth, I don&#039;t ridicule Oprah&#039;s show as a whole, only the nonsense she endorses. 

But gee, besides all that, you have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy:</p>
<p>Wow, so many ridiculous statements in such a short comment!</p>
<p>First, really, the racist misogyny card? Really? On what evidence in my post do you base that?</p>
<p>Second, as I point out, it&#8217;s clear Oprah is endorsing these nonsensical medical beliefs of her guests. It&#8217;s clearly spelled out in my post. Did you not read it?</p>
<p>Third, I never said her audience is too stupid to handle controversial ideas. That&#8217;s a strawman on your part and totally false. I said that her saying her audience will seek out other advice is baloney. We have evidence that a vast number of people do whatever she says when it comes to consuming what she&#8217;s endorsing. </p>
<p>Fourth, if I have a talk show where I pet puppies all the time, but once a year have a special show where I eat them live, is that OK with you? Will that get a pass?</p>
<p>Fifth, I don&#8217;t ridicule Oprah&#8217;s show as a whole, only the nonsense she endorses. </p>
<p>But gee, besides all that, you have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/07/oprah-shame-on-you/comment-page-4/#comment-190254</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Oprah.  Her audience is SMART and they can decided for themselves which guest they want to listen to.  It&#039;s absoultely ridiculous to say that Oprah can&#039;t interview the same celebrities that Larry King interviews because her female audience is too stupid to handle controversial ideas.  Oprah obviously has a lot of respect for traditional doctors or she wouldn&#039;t have Dr. OZ as her most frequent expert, even giving him his very own show.  So what if she has a few strange celebs on now and then.  Most of the time they do not discuss medicine and the few times that they do Oprah warns her viewers that mainstream scientists don&#039;t agree with them so check with your doctors.  All Oprah was trying to do with these few rare shows was draw attention to the needs of women and inform them about some of the ideas that are out there. And Oprah has interviewed hundreds of people a year for 23 years.  It&#039;s very easy to cherry pick, out of ten thousand guests, easy targets like Suzanne Somers to ridicule Oprah&#039;s excellent show.  I guess any excuse to attack a successful black woman.  You should be ashamed of this blog.  A bunch of elitist pigs trashing a talk show host they don&#039;t even watch based on second hand reports.  I find you guys reprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Oprah.  Her audience is SMART and they can decided for themselves which guest they want to listen to.  It&#8217;s absoultely ridiculous to say that Oprah can&#8217;t interview the same celebrities that Larry King interviews because her female audience is too stupid to handle controversial ideas.  Oprah obviously has a lot of respect for traditional doctors or she wouldn&#8217;t have Dr. OZ as her most frequent expert, even giving him his very own show.  So what if she has a few strange celebs on now and then.  Most of the time they do not discuss medicine and the few times that they do Oprah warns her viewers that mainstream scientists don&#8217;t agree with them so check with your doctors.  All Oprah was trying to do with these few rare shows was draw attention to the needs of women and inform them about some of the ideas that are out there. And Oprah has interviewed hundreds of people a year for 23 years.  It&#8217;s very easy to cherry pick, out of ten thousand guests, easy targets like Suzanne Somers to ridicule Oprah&#8217;s excellent show.  I guess any excuse to attack a successful black woman.  You should be ashamed of this blog.  A bunch of elitist pigs trashing a talk show host they don&#8217;t even watch based on second hand reports.  I find you guys reprehensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Astra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah is in the stratosphere of celebrity who believes their own PR.  The power that woman has over the brain dead stay at home moms and old people is frightening.  Who else has an ego big enough to not only (1) name a magazine after themselves but (2) put themselves on the cover every month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah is in the stratosphere of celebrity who believes their own PR.  The power that woman has over the brain dead stay at home moms and old people is frightening.  Who else has an ego big enough to not only (1) name a magazine after themselves but (2) put themselves on the cover every month?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>menk: &lt;blockquote&gt;She simply advocates testing babies to make sure they have the immune system to handle vaccines at the current rate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you have the name of that test, and the papers showing how effective it is in predicting their immune system?  Plus, can you share the papers in the medical literature that support a connection between autism and vaccines?  Because, these show the opposite (and they is only for the MMR, there are also similar ones for thimerosal): 

Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy:
A Case-Control Study. Hornig M et al. PLoS ONE 2008; 3(9):
e3140 doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0003140 *Subjects: 25 children with
autism and GI disturbances and 13 children with GI disturbances alone
(controls)

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders.
Baird G et al. Arch Dis Child 2008; 93(10):832-7. Subjects: 98
vaccinated children aged 10-12 years in the UK with autism spectrum
disorder (ASD); two control groups of similar age: 52 children with special
educational needs but no ASD and 90 children in the typically developing
group

MMR-Vaccine and Regression in Autism Spectrum Disorders: Negative
Results Presented from Japan. Uchiyama T et al. J Autism Dev Disord
2007; 37(2):210-7 *Subjects: 904 children with autism spectrum disorder
(Note: MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993.)

No Evidence of Persisting Measles Virus in Peripheral Blood Mononuclear
Cells from Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. D’Souza Y et
al. Pediatrics 2006; 118(4):1664-75 *Subjects: 54 children with autism
spectrum disorder and 34 developmentally normal children

Immunizations and Autism: A Review of the Literature. Doja A, Roberts
W. Can J Neurol Sci. 2006; 33(4):341-6 *Literature review

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada:
Prevalence and Links with Immunizations. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics.
2006;118(1):e139-50 *Subjects: 27,749 children born from 1987 to
1998 attending 55 schools

Relationship between MMR Vaccine and Autism. Klein KC, Diehl EB.
Ann Pharmacother. 2004; 38(7-8):1297-300 *Literature review of 10
studies

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. Institute of Medicine.
The National Academies Press: 2004 (w w w . nap.edu/books/030909237X/
html) *Literature review

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-
Control Study. Smeeth L et al. Lancet 2004; 364(9438):963-9 *Subjects:
1294 cases and 4469 controls

Age at First Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination in Children with Autism
and School-Matched Control Subjects: A Population-Based Study
in Metropolitan Atlanta. DeStefano F et al. Pediatrics 2004; 113(2): 259-
66 *Subjects: 624 children with autism and 1,824 controls

Prevalence of Autism and Parentally Reported Triggers in a North East
London Population. Lingam R et al. Arch Dis Child 2003; 88(8):666-70
*Subjects: 567 children with autistic spectrum disorder

Neurologic Disorders after Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination. Makela
A et al. Pediatrics 2002; 110:957-63 *Subjects: 535,544 children vaccinated
between November 1982 and June 1986 in Finland

A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination
and Autism. Madsen KM et al. N Engl J Med 2002; 347(19):1477-82
*Subjects: All 537,303 children born 1/91–12/98 in Denmark

Relation of Childhood Gastrointestinal Disorders to Autism: Nested
Case Control Study Using Data from the UK General Practice Research
Database. Black C et al. BMJ 2002; 325:419-21 *Subjects: 96 children
diagnosed with autism and 449 controls

Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Bowel Problems or Developmental
Regression in Children with Autism: Population Study. Taylor
B et al. BMJ 2002; 324(7334):393-6 *Subjects: 278 children with
core autism and 195 with atypical autism

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced
Autism. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics 2001;108(4):E58 *Subjects: 262
autistic children (pre- and post-MMR samples)

Measles-Mumps-Rubella and Other Measles-Containing Vaccines Do
Not Increase the Risk for Inflammatory Bowel Disease: A Case-Control
Study from the Vaccine Safety Datalink Project. Davis RL et al. Arch Pediatr
Adolesc Med 2001;155(3):354-9 *Subjects: 155 persons with IBD
with up to 5 controls each

Time Trends in Autism and in MMR Immunization Coverage in California.
Dales L et al. JAMA 2001; 285(9):1183-5 *Subjects: Children
born in 1980-94 who were enrolled in California kindergartens (survey
samples of 600–1,900 children each year)

Mumps, Measles, and Rubella Vaccine and the Incidence of Autism Recorded
by General Practitioners: A Time Trend Analysis. Kaye JA et al.
BMJ 2001; 322:460-63 *Subjects: 305 children with autism

Further Evidence of the Absence of Measles Virus Genome Sequence in
Full Thickness Intestinal Specimens from Patients with Crohn’s Disease.
Afzal MA, et al. J Med Virol 2000; 62(3):377-82 *Subjects: Specimens
from patients with Crohn’s disease

Autism and Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine: No Epidemiological
Evidence for a Causal Association. Taylor B et al. Lancet 1999;353
(9169):2026-9 *Subjects: 498 children with autism

Absence of Detectable Measles Virus Genome Sequence in Inflammatory
Bowel Disease Tissues and Peripheral Blood Lymphocytes. Afzal MA et
al. J Med Virol 1998; 55(3):243-9 *Subjects: 93 colonoscopic biopsies
and 31 peripheral blood lymphocyte preparations

No Evidence for Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine-Associated Inflammatory
Bowel Disease or Autism in a 14-year Prospective Study.
Peltola H et al. Lancet 1998; 351:1327-8 *Subjects: 3,000,000 doses of
MMR vaccine

Exposure to Measles in Utero and Crohn’s Disease: Danish Register
Study. Nielsen LL et al. BMJ 1998; 316(7126):196-7 *Subjects: 472
women with measles

Immunocytochemical Evidence of Listeria, Escherichia coli, and Streptococcus
Antigens in Crohn’s Disease. Liu Y et al. Gastroenterology
1995; 108(5):1396-1404 *Subjects: Intestines and mesenteric lymph
node specimens from 21 persons from families with a high frequency of
Crohn’s disease</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>menk:<br />
<blockquote>She simply advocates testing babies to make sure they have the immune system to handle vaccines at the current rate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you have the name of that test, and the papers showing how effective it is in predicting their immune system?  Plus, can you share the papers in the medical literature that support a connection between autism and vaccines?  Because, these show the opposite (and they is only for the MMR, there are also similar ones for thimerosal): </p>
<p>Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy:<br />
A Case-Control Study. Hornig M et al. PLoS ONE 2008; 3(9):<br />
e3140 doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0003140 *Subjects: 25 children with<br />
autism and GI disturbances and 13 children with GI disturbances alone<br />
(controls)</p>
<p>Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders.<br />
Baird G et al. Arch Dis Child 2008; 93(10):832-7. Subjects: 98<br />
vaccinated children aged 10-12 years in the UK with autism spectrum<br />
disorder (ASD); two control groups of similar age: 52 children with special<br />
educational needs but no ASD and 90 children in the typically developing<br />
group</p>
<p>MMR-Vaccine and Regression in Autism Spectrum Disorders: Negative<br />
Results Presented from Japan. Uchiyama T et al. J Autism Dev Disord<br />
2007; 37(2):210-7 *Subjects: 904 children with autism spectrum disorder<br />
(Note: MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993.)</p>
<p>No Evidence of Persisting Measles Virus in Peripheral Blood Mononuclear<br />
Cells from Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. D’Souza Y et<br />
al. Pediatrics 2006; 118(4):1664-75 *Subjects: 54 children with autism<br />
spectrum disorder and 34 developmentally normal children</p>
<p>Immunizations and Autism: A Review of the Literature. Doja A, Roberts<br />
W. Can J Neurol Sci. 2006; 33(4):341-6 *Literature review</p>
<p>Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada:<br />
Prevalence and Links with Immunizations. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics.<br />
2006;118(1):e139-50 *Subjects: 27,749 children born from 1987 to<br />
1998 attending 55 schools</p>
<p>Relationship between MMR Vaccine and Autism. Klein KC, Diehl EB.<br />
Ann Pharmacother. 2004; 38(7-8):1297-300 *Literature review of 10<br />
studies</p>
<p>Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. Institute of Medicine.<br />
The National Academies Press: 2004 (w w w . nap.edu/books/030909237X/<br />
html) *Literature review</p>
<p>MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-<br />
Control Study. Smeeth L et al. Lancet 2004; 364(9438):963-9 *Subjects:<br />
1294 cases and 4469 controls</p>
<p>Age at First Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination in Children with Autism<br />
and School-Matched Control Subjects: A Population-Based Study<br />
in Metropolitan Atlanta. DeStefano F et al. Pediatrics 2004; 113(2): 259-<br />
66 *Subjects: 624 children with autism and 1,824 controls</p>
<p>Prevalence of Autism and Parentally Reported Triggers in a North East<br />
London Population. Lingam R et al. Arch Dis Child 2003; 88(8):666-70<br />
*Subjects: 567 children with autistic spectrum disorder</p>
<p>Neurologic Disorders after Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination. Makela<br />
A et al. Pediatrics 2002; 110:957-63 *Subjects: 535,544 children vaccinated<br />
between November 1982 and June 1986 in Finland</p>
<p>A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination<br />
and Autism. Madsen KM et al. N Engl J Med 2002; 347(19):1477-82<br />
*Subjects: All 537,303 children born 1/91–12/98 in Denmark</p>
<p>Relation of Childhood Gastrointestinal Disorders to Autism: Nested<br />
Case Control Study Using Data from the UK General Practice Research<br />
Database. Black C et al. BMJ 2002; 325:419-21 *Subjects: 96 children<br />
diagnosed with autism and 449 controls</p>
<p>Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Bowel Problems or Developmental<br />
Regression in Children with Autism: Population Study. Taylor<br />
B et al. BMJ 2002; 324(7334):393-6 *Subjects: 278 children with<br />
core autism and 195 with atypical autism</p>
<p>No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced<br />
Autism. Fombonne E et al. Pediatrics 2001;108(4):E58 *Subjects: 262<br />
autistic children (pre- and post-MMR samples)</p>
<p>Measles-Mumps-Rubella and Other Measles-Containing Vaccines Do<br />
Not Increase the Risk for Inflammatory Bowel Disease: A Case-Control<br />
Study from the Vaccine Safety Datalink Project. Davis RL et al. Arch Pediatr<br />
Adolesc Med 2001;155(3):354-9 *Subjects: 155 persons with IBD<br />
with up to 5 controls each</p>
<p>Time Trends in Autism and in MMR Immunization Coverage in California.<br />
Dales L et al. JAMA 2001; 285(9):1183-5 *Subjects: Children<br />
born in 1980-94 who were enrolled in California kindergartens (survey<br />
samples of 600–1,900 children each year)</p>
<p>Mumps, Measles, and Rubella Vaccine and the Incidence of Autism Recorded<br />
by General Practitioners: A Time Trend Analysis. Kaye JA et al.<br />
BMJ 2001; 322:460-63 *Subjects: 305 children with autism</p>
<p>Further Evidence of the Absence of Measles Virus Genome Sequence in<br />
Full Thickness Intestinal Specimens from Patients with Crohn’s Disease.<br />
Afzal MA, et al. J Med Virol 2000; 62(3):377-82 *Subjects: Specimens<br />
from patients with Crohn’s disease</p>
<p>Autism and Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine: No Epidemiological<br />
Evidence for a Causal Association. Taylor B et al. Lancet 1999;353<br />
(9169):2026-9 *Subjects: 498 children with autism</p>
<p>Absence of Detectable Measles Virus Genome Sequence in Inflammatory<br />
Bowel Disease Tissues and Peripheral Blood Lymphocytes. Afzal MA et<br />
al. J Med Virol 1998; 55(3):243-9 *Subjects: 93 colonoscopic biopsies<br />
and 31 peripheral blood lymphocyte preparations</p>
<p>No Evidence for Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine-Associated Inflammatory<br />
Bowel Disease or Autism in a 14-year Prospective Study.<br />
Peltola H et al. Lancet 1998; 351:1327-8 *Subjects: 3,000,000 doses of<br />
MMR vaccine</p>
<p>Exposure to Measles in Utero and Crohn’s Disease: Danish Register<br />
Study. Nielsen LL et al. BMJ 1998; 316(7126):196-7 *Subjects: 472<br />
women with measles</p>
<p>Immunocytochemical Evidence of Listeria, Escherichia coli, and Streptococcus<br />
Antigens in Crohn’s Disease. Liu Y et al. Gastroenterology<br />
1995; 108(5):1396-1404 *Subjects: Intestines and mesenteric lymph<br />
node specimens from 21 persons from families with a high frequency of<br />
Crohn’s disease</p>
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		<title>By: Trimegistus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trimegistus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah doesn&#039;t know as much as she thinks she does, makes snap judgements, and then pushes them on millions of people.  She can do a lot of harm.

Look at how her political endorsement turned out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah doesn&#8217;t know as much as she thinks she does, makes snap judgements, and then pushes them on millions of people.  She can do a lot of harm.</p>
<p>Look at how her political endorsement turned out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: menk</title>
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		<dc:creator>menk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, Jenny McCarthy was not on the Oprah show to talk about vaccines.  The discussion about vaccines lasted only about 30 seconds.  And Jenny McCarthy is NOT, I repeat NOT anti-vaccine.  She simply advocates testing babies to make sure they have the immune system to handle vaccines at the current rate.  But she did not discuss even that on the Oprah show.  Maybe in the early days McCarthy might have gone a bit far in her anger and frustration, but these days she is mostly interested in sharing nutrion that she feels helped her son with some of his symptoms.  True it&#039;s not yet validiated by science, but to silence mothers of autistic children from sharing their experience goes too far.  

And shame on you dkmnow for your disgusting rant against Oprah.  You obviously don&#039;t watch her and know nothing at all about her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, Jenny McCarthy was not on the Oprah show to talk about vaccines.  The discussion about vaccines lasted only about 30 seconds.  And Jenny McCarthy is NOT, I repeat NOT anti-vaccine.  She simply advocates testing babies to make sure they have the immune system to handle vaccines at the current rate.  But she did not discuss even that on the Oprah show.  Maybe in the early days McCarthy might have gone a bit far in her anger and frustration, but these days she is mostly interested in sharing nutrion that she feels helped her son with some of his symptoms.  True it&#8217;s not yet validiated by science, but to silence mothers of autistic children from sharing their experience goes too far.  </p>
<p>And shame on you dkmnow for your disgusting rant against Oprah.  You obviously don&#8217;t watch her and know nothing at all about her.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 173. menk

But that right there is the problem, Oprah &quot;read a statement&quot; disputing McCarthy. She didn&#039;t bring on a doctor or a scientist to contradict her.

McCarthy wasn&#039;t &quot;confronted&quot; about her ignorance she was allowed to spew and then Oprah said &quot;Well to be fair, there are some that disagree and this is what they might say...if we actually let them on here.&quot; And read a stock statement that was not tailored to directly contradict McCarthy.

Jenny McCarthy got to testify, the scientific community got hearsay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 173. menk</p>
<p>But that right there is the problem, Oprah &#8220;read a statement&#8221; disputing McCarthy. She didn&#8217;t bring on a doctor or a scientist to contradict her.</p>
<p>McCarthy wasn&#8217;t &#8220;confronted&#8221; about her ignorance she was allowed to spew and then Oprah said &#8220;Well to be fair, there are some that disagree and this is what they might say&#8230;if we actually let them on here.&#8221; And read a stock statement that was not tailored to directly contradict McCarthy.</p>
<p>Jenny McCarthy got to testify, the scientific community got hearsay.</p>
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		<title>By: menk</title>
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		<dc:creator>menk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Roger Zuehlke, anyone who watches entertainers discussing their own experience concerning health is probably really interested in health and thus the type of person who would do more research.  And I don&#039;t recall Oprah ever giving health advice on her show.  She simply lets guests share experiences but is clear that people should check with their doctors.  I see nothing wrong with opening up a dialogue on taboo health topics.  I think it does more good than harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Roger Zuehlke, anyone who watches entertainers discussing their own experience concerning health is probably really interested in health and thus the type of person who would do more research.  And I don&#8217;t recall Oprah ever giving health advice on her show.  She simply lets guests share experiences but is clear that people should check with their doctors.  I see nothing wrong with opening up a dialogue on taboo health topics.  I think it does more good than harm.</p>
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