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	<title>Comments on: LRO launches today at 21:12 GMT</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff: Doubting the moon landings is not being skeptical.  It&#039;s being a denialist.  Throw all of modern scientific knowledge out the window with it, then.  If they&#039;re lying about this -- despite the careful documentation, and the rock samples, and the huge host of individuals involved who have never once hinted at anything to the contrary -- then anyone could be lying about anything.  Throw it all out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff: Doubting the moon landings is not being skeptical.  It&#8217;s being a denialist.  Throw all of modern scientific knowledge out the window with it, then.  If they&#8217;re lying about this &#8212; despite the careful documentation, and the rock samples, and the huge host of individuals involved who have never once hinted at anything to the contrary &#8212; then anyone could be lying about anything.  Throw it all out.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying sardines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying sardines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and we also have the following astronauts who all circled our Moon whilst their companions walked on it - perhaps the ultimate in isolation from other people : 

Apollo 11 - Michael Collins

Apollo  12 - Richard Gordon 

Apollo  14 - Stuart Roosa 
 
Apollo 15 - Fred Worden

Apollo  16 - Thomas Mattingly

Apollo 17 - Ronald Evans

MHCTBers are these too all liars in your view?  

Plus, of course,the whole Apollo 13 crew that also circled our Moon : Jim Lovell, John Swigert, Fred Haise &amp; the crews of Apollo&#039;s 10 ( Tom Stafford, Gene Cernan, John Young) &amp;  Apollo 8. (James Lovell, Frank Borman, William Anders.) 

Basically &lt;b &gt; Do you really expect us to believe all these good individuals are lying -flawlessly? &lt;/b&gt;

Well ... ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and we also have the following astronauts who all circled our Moon whilst their companions walked on it &#8211; perhaps the ultimate in isolation from other people : </p>
<p>Apollo 11 &#8211; Michael Collins</p>
<p>Apollo  12 &#8211; Richard Gordon </p>
<p>Apollo  14 &#8211; Stuart Roosa </p>
<p>Apollo 15 &#8211; Fred Worden</p>
<p>Apollo  16 &#8211; Thomas Mattingly</p>
<p>Apollo 17 &#8211; Ronald Evans</p>
<p>MHCTBers are these too all liars in your view?  </p>
<p>Plus, of course,the whole Apollo 13 crew that also circled our Moon : Jim Lovell, John Swigert, Fred Haise &#038; the crews of Apollo&#8217;s 10 ( Tom Stafford, Gene Cernan, John Young) &#038;  Apollo 8. (James Lovell, Frank Borman, William Anders.) </p>
<p>Basically <b> Do you really expect us to believe all these good individuals are lying -flawlessly? </b></p>
<p>Well &#8230; ???</p>
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		<title>By: Flying sardines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying sardines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are a Moon Hoax Conspiracy &quot;Theory&quot; Believer (MHCTBer) then you are effectively calling the following courageous and honourable astronauts  who all walked on the Moon liars : 

Neil Armstrong,
Buzz (Edwin) Aldrin,

Apollo 11 – first Lunar landing. Aldrin would later write an autobiography as well detailing his very interesting if sometimes troubled life. 

Charles “Pete” Conrad
Alan Bean

Apollo 12 – the second Lunar landing. Alan Bean would later paint many scenes from his Lunar adventure from memory.

Alan Shepherd
Edgar Mitchell

Apollo 14 – third lunar landing - &amp; Al Shepherd was the first American in space with the ‘Mercury’ programme. Mitchell as we all know is hardly the quiet secret-keeping type! 
;-)

David Scott
James Irwin

Apollo 15 – fourth Lunar landing

Charles Duke
John Young

Apollo 16 – fifth Lunar landing. Both Duke &amp; Irwin later became preachers if that carries any weight for those who think preachers are more honest than, say, scientists. NOT a view I hold personally I’ll add, but one I know some do. 

Harrison Schmidt
Gene Cernan

Apollo 17 – sixth &amp; so far last lunar landing. Schmidt, a geologist was the first and only scientist to walk on the Moon, the other astronauts mostly came from air-force or navy backgrounds.

Now according to the MHCTBers *all* of these brave and honourable men (&amp; many hundreds more people as well) who have have different characters, abilities and backgrounds, who have written, painted, and talked about their lunar experiences are all consistently and continually lying! 

Moreover, the MHCTBers would have us believe that all these men &lt;b&gt;( &amp; many hundreds more involved in the Apollo program) &lt;/b&gt; who have been interviewed, studied, debriefed and questioned are *perfect* flawless liars who have never once “slipped up” and accidentally revealed “the secret.” Not to the media, not to their partners, not to their kids, not once, ever. 

Yeah riiiight.  :roll:

Besides can anyone just imagine being the dude in charge of telling the Apollo astronauts – Buzz Aldrin and Pete Conrad, Jim Lovell and Al Shepherd and the rest :

“Hey, you know we’ll actually be faking all this so you’ve got to act .. &amp; lie really well .. and then hide somewhere while we somehow fool the Russians and ya gotta keep this so secret and.. ” *WHACK! * 

&lt;i&gt;[Person telling them this falls over with bloody nose and black eye from Buzz Aldrin’s killer left hook! ] &lt;/i&gt;

... And that&#039;s before we even get to the mountain of other evidence  like all the photos,  moon-rocks, experiments left behind, et cetera ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a Moon Hoax Conspiracy &#8220;Theory&#8221; Believer (MHCTBer) then you are effectively calling the following courageous and honourable astronauts  who all walked on the Moon liars : </p>
<p>Neil Armstrong,<br />
Buzz (Edwin) Aldrin,</p>
<p>Apollo 11 – first Lunar landing. Aldrin would later write an autobiography as well detailing his very interesting if sometimes troubled life. </p>
<p>Charles “Pete” Conrad<br />
Alan Bean</p>
<p>Apollo 12 – the second Lunar landing. Alan Bean would later paint many scenes from his Lunar adventure from memory.</p>
<p>Alan Shepherd<br />
Edgar Mitchell</p>
<p>Apollo 14 – third lunar landing &#8211; &#038; Al Shepherd was the first American in space with the ‘Mercury’ programme. Mitchell as we all know is hardly the quiet secret-keeping type!<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>David Scott<br />
James Irwin</p>
<p>Apollo 15 – fourth Lunar landing</p>
<p>Charles Duke<br />
John Young</p>
<p>Apollo 16 – fifth Lunar landing. Both Duke &#038; Irwin later became preachers if that carries any weight for those who think preachers are more honest than, say, scientists. NOT a view I hold personally I’ll add, but one I know some do. </p>
<p>Harrison Schmidt<br />
Gene Cernan</p>
<p>Apollo 17 – sixth &#038; so far last lunar landing. Schmidt, a geologist was the first and only scientist to walk on the Moon, the other astronauts mostly came from air-force or navy backgrounds.</p>
<p>Now according to the MHCTBers *all* of these brave and honourable men (&#038; many hundreds more people as well) who have have different characters, abilities and backgrounds, who have written, painted, and talked about their lunar experiences are all consistently and continually lying! </p>
<p>Moreover, the MHCTBers would have us believe that all these men <b>( &#038; many hundreds more involved in the Apollo program) </b> who have been interviewed, studied, debriefed and questioned are *perfect* flawless liars who have never once “slipped up” and accidentally revealed “the secret.” Not to the media, not to their partners, not to their kids, not once, ever. </p>
<p>Yeah riiiight.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Besides can anyone just imagine being the dude in charge of telling the Apollo astronauts – Buzz Aldrin and Pete Conrad, Jim Lovell and Al Shepherd and the rest :</p>
<p>“Hey, you know we’ll actually be faking all this so you’ve got to act .. &#038; lie really well .. and then hide somewhere while we somehow fool the Russians and ya gotta keep this so secret and.. ” *WHACK! * </p>
<p><i>[Person telling them this falls over with bloody nose and black eye from Buzz Aldrin’s killer left hook! ] </i></p>
<p>&#8230; And that&#8217;s before we even get to the mountain of other evidence  like all the photos,  moon-rocks, experiments left behind, et cetera &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Flying sardines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying sardines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to the LRO team &amp; hope the mission goes well. Awesome! :-) 

@ 9 Bob Portnell : 

&lt;i&gt;Almost no chance of imaging a waving flag, though.&lt;/i&gt;

Definitely no chance of the flag waving - not unless a meteorite just hit it or a moonquake gives it a shake! ;-)

Actually, my understanding &lt;i&gt; (which could be wrong &amp; all but ) &lt;/i&gt; is that the flag actually fell over during the LEM&#039;s ascent stage lift-off ... Course that&#039;s just for Apollo 11 but not sure if the others had flags too or not ... &amp; whether they fell over too or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to the LRO team &#038; hope the mission goes well. Awesome! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@ 9 Bob Portnell : </p>
<p><i>Almost no chance of imaging a waving flag, though.</i></p>
<p>Definitely no chance of the flag waving &#8211; not unless a meteorite just hit it or a moonquake gives it a shake! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, my understanding <i> (which could be wrong &#038; all but ) </i> is that the flag actually fell over during the LEM&#8217;s ascent stage lift-off &#8230; Course that&#8217;s just for Apollo 11 but not sure if the others had flags too or not &#8230; &#038; whether they fell over too or not.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Hagerty @ 20
&gt; And as I understand, the resolution is more like half a meter (20 inches), so a LM base
&gt; would be about 1,000 pixles, quite enough to resolve it.

I don&#039;t know Jack.  I wish we could get a 1000 pixel image of the LM base, but my understanding of the Resolution is different from yours and I wonder who has it right.  My understanding is that the LRO is capable of a pixel resolution of half a meter as you say, but since the LM base is only a few meters across, that would present an image of no more than 10 - 12 pixels?  Still, that will be enough for an image eh?  I bet that would make it onto BA&#039;s top 10 astronomy images of 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Hagerty @ 20<br />
> And as I understand, the resolution is more like half a meter (20 inches), so a LM base<br />
> would be about 1,000 pixles, quite enough to resolve it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Jack.  I wish we could get a 1000 pixel image of the LM base, but my understanding of the Resolution is different from yours and I wonder who has it right.  My understanding is that the LRO is capable of a pixel resolution of half a meter as you say, but since the LM base is only a few meters across, that would present an image of no more than 10 &#8211; 12 pixels?  Still, that will be enough for an image eh?  I bet that would make it onto BA&#8217;s top 10 astronomy images of 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: madge</title>
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		<dc:creator>madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that&#039;s sux to Neil our moon-hoax troll! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s sux to Neil our moon-hoax troll! : )</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27.   Bert Chadick Says: &quot;Yeah for Rocketships!&quot;

My kinda guy!

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27.   Bert Chadick Says: &#8220;Yeah for Rocketships!&#8221;</p>
<p>My kinda guy!</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: John Paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SyFy (I know they&#039;re still officially &#039;the Sci Fi Channel&quot;, but am using the new silliness) has an article about the LRO (which is rather unusual for them - and with their &#039;Saturday Original Movies, they show little interest in good SF, or Science).  I includes a partial list of what was left at Tranquility Base, and link to the Lunar Legacy Project with a full list.

Link at:(pending moderation) http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/humankind-heads-back-to-t.php

J/P=?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SyFy (I know they&#8217;re still officially &#8216;the Sci Fi Channel&#8221;, but am using the new silliness) has an article about the LRO (which is rather unusual for them &#8211; and with their &#8216;Saturday Original Movies, they show little interest in good SF, or Science).  I includes a partial list of what was left at Tranquility Base, and link to the Lunar Legacy Project with a full list.</p>
<p>Link at:(pending moderation) <a href="http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/humankind-heads-back-to-t.php" rel="nofollow">http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/humankind-heads-back-to-t.php</a></p>
<p>J/P=?</p>
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		<title>By: The EGE</title>
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		<dc:creator>The EGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the first launch I&#039;ve ever watched on streaming video, and I was very impressed. My wireless connection is normally very slow, but I was able to get fast video and clear audio unless I was loading another webpage at the moment. 

I was also very impressed by how the announcer gave updates on the speed, altitude, and downrange distance every minute or two. I just wish the figures in the video were a little more readable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the first launch I&#8217;ve ever watched on streaming video, and I was very impressed. My wireless connection is normally very slow, but I was able to get fast video and clear audio unless I was loading another webpage at the moment. </p>
<p>I was also very impressed by how the announcer gave updates on the speed, altitude, and downrange distance every minute or two. I just wish the figures in the video were a little more readable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael L:   &quot;I am willing to bet that 9 out of 10 hoaxers will cry “photoshopped!” when NASA releases LRO images!&quot;

You&#039;re probably right, but then that will prove that they are complete idiots.

I actually was one of the HB ers until I had an argument with the people at BAUT , Phil&#039;s forum.  Well, needless to say, they killed me in argument, and I totally admitted to them how wrong I was.  I went through it point by point with them, and they pointed out the flaws in the HB arguments point by point.  I now consider them friends, because they brought me back to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael L:   &#8220;I am willing to bet that 9 out of 10 hoaxers will cry “photoshopped!” when NASA releases LRO images!&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably right, but then that will prove that they are complete idiots.</p>
<p>I actually was one of the HB ers until I had an argument with the people at BAUT , Phil&#8217;s forum.  Well, needless to say, they killed me in argument, and I totally admitted to them how wrong I was.  I went through it point by point with them, and they pointed out the flaws in the HB arguments point by point.  I now consider them friends, because they brought me back to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I wrong, or does that launch site in the background look a *lot* like SpaceX&#039;s new Falcon 9 launch site that&#039;s finishing construction in July?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I wrong, or does that launch site in the background look a *lot* like SpaceX&#8217;s new Falcon 9 launch site that&#8217;s finishing construction in July?</p>
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		<title>By: MKremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bert Chadick: A faring&#039;s primary purpose (beside the aerodynamic one) is to protect the payload from frictional heating in the lower atmosphere. Once a rocket gets beyond 60 miles or so in altitude both aero drag and heating are negligible, so the faring can be discarded without risk to the payload. The LV also gets to shed an extra ton or so of no longer needed weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bert Chadick: A faring&#8217;s primary purpose (beside the aerodynamic one) is to protect the payload from frictional heating in the lower atmosphere. Once a rocket gets beyond 60 miles or so in altitude both aero drag and heating are negligible, so the faring can be discarded without risk to the payload. The LV also gets to shed an extra ton or so of no longer needed weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Chadick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert Chadick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This flight must stick in the craw of everyone who claims that the government can&#039;t do anything right. On a less political note: The payload shroud seemed to be shed well before the spacecraft left the atmosphere. I presume this is on purpose, but why? Do they use the drag to strip the shell away or is there some other reason?

Yeah for Rocketships!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This flight must stick in the craw of everyone who claims that the government can&#8217;t do anything right. On a less political note: The payload shroud seemed to be shed well before the spacecraft left the atmosphere. I presume this is on purpose, but why? Do they use the drag to strip the shell away or is there some other reason?</p>
<p>Yeah for Rocketships!</p>
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		<title>By: Pillownaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pillownaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was great!  I&#039;m still watching.  One of the announcers said the launch was &quot;one tenth of a second late,&quot; LOL... also just said they will be replaying it on NASA TV, so keep trying.  Or, the NASA TV YouTube channel will upload a clip soon... they always put videos on there after launches and events :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great!  I&#8217;m still watching.  One of the announcers said the launch was &#8220;one tenth of a second late,&#8221; LOL&#8230; also just said they will be replaying it on NASA TV, so keep trying.  Or, the NASA TV YouTube channel will upload a clip soon&#8230; they always put videos on there after launches and events <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched the launch on NASA TV. Awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Wagner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/18/lro-launches-today-at-2112-gmt/comment-page-1/#comment-193005</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be the stream I&#039;m referring to, yes.
On a good day I get 50k/sec download. On a day like today, I get 70 bytes per second punctuated by moments of audio.
So if there&#039;s a downloadable version of the video I&#039;d be quite happy to view it when it finishes downloading sometime next week :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be the stream I&#8217;m referring to, yes.<br />
On a good day I get 50k/sec download. On a day like today, I get 70 bytes per second punctuated by moments of audio.<br />
So if there&#8217;s a downloadable version of the video I&#8217;d be quite happy to view it when it finishes downloading sometime next week <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try to watch on NASA  TV?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Wagner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/18/lro-launches-today-at-2112-gmt/comment-page-1/#comment-192996</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there downloadable video of the event? I tried to watch the stream but all I get is &quot;buffering&quot;. On rural wireless for the summer and it&#039;s horrible. Costs the same as  10Mb service in the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there downloadable video of the event? I tried to watch the stream but all I get is &#8220;buffering&#8221;. On rural wireless for the summer and it&#8217;s horrible. Costs the same as  10Mb service in the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD LAUNCH BABY!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13.   Bob Portnell Says: &quot;Just read the NASAFacts sheet on LRO. Its b/w hi-res cameras have 1 m resolution … which would be barely enough to recognize a lander. Except they’ll never be looking for landers — they’re tasked for examining the polar regions, and the Apollo gear isn’t there.&quot;

Not to worry, Bob. In order to image the poles (in anyway other than tangentially), you have to be in polar orbit. That means that the moon turns under you as you orbit. If you read those spec sheets a little closer (the mission spec, not just the hardware) you&#039;ll see that this vehicle will image the entire moon&#039;s surface, and more than once. It will be imaging every single Apollo, Surveyor, Lunakhod landing site plus all of the Ranger, etc. impact sites. And as I understand, the resolution is more like half a meter (20 inches), so a LM base would be about 1,000 pixles, quite enough to resolve it.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13.   Bob Portnell Says: &#8220;Just read the NASAFacts sheet on LRO. Its b/w hi-res cameras have 1 m resolution … which would be barely enough to recognize a lander. Except they’ll never be looking for landers — they’re tasked for examining the polar regions, and the Apollo gear isn’t there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to worry, Bob. In order to image the poles (in anyway other than tangentially), you have to be in polar orbit. That means that the moon turns under you as you orbit. If you read those spec sheets a little closer (the mission spec, not just the hardware) you&#8217;ll see that this vehicle will image the entire moon&#8217;s surface, and more than once. It will be imaging every single Apollo, Surveyor, Lunakhod landing site plus all of the Ranger, etc. impact sites. And as I understand, the resolution is more like half a meter (20 inches), so a LM base would be about 1,000 pixles, quite enough to resolve it.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13, Jeff said:
&quot;I’m still a little skeptical that men landed on moon, so when I see these lunar LEM images, that will remove my doubts.&quot;

Why would that remove your doubts?  After all, couldn&#039;t NASA just photo-shop those pictures?

You see, the hoaxers will never believe, even if you rammed the evidence into every bodily orifice.   There will always be a reason to believe that the landings were hoaxed.  I am willing to bet that 9 out of 10 hoaxers will cry &quot;photoshopped!&quot; when NASA releases LRO images!

Looks like they will be out of the weather in 10 minutes according to latest updates!

I&#039;m watching on Livestream.  Way better picture and sound quality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13, Jeff said:<br />
&#8220;I’m still a little skeptical that men landed on moon, so when I see these lunar LEM images, that will remove my doubts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would that remove your doubts?  After all, couldn&#8217;t NASA just photo-shop those pictures?</p>
<p>You see, the hoaxers will never believe, even if you rammed the evidence into every bodily orifice.   There will always be a reason to believe that the landings were hoaxed.  I am willing to bet that 9 out of 10 hoaxers will cry &#8220;photoshopped!&#8221; when NASA releases LRO images!</p>
<p>Looks like they will be out of the weather in 10 minutes according to latest updates!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m watching on Livestream.  Way better picture and sound quality!</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drool. Lots more cameras and different views available at:
countdown dot ksc dot nasa dot gov/elv/
See the four stream feeds on the left hand side, and pick them up with windows media.
Drool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drool. Lots more cameras and different views available at:<br />
countdown dot ksc dot nasa dot gov/elv/<br />
See the four stream feeds on the left hand side, and pick them up with windows media.<br />
Drool.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have both the Space Flight Now and the NASA TV public channels on my PC.  My stop-watch says the SpaceFlightNow channel is about 30 seconds ahead of NASA TV.  Same dialogue.
Really *really* can&#039;t get enough of this.  Terrific.
Bob(ExtraBig)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have both the Space Flight Now and the NASA TV public channels on my PC.  My stop-watch says the SpaceFlightNow channel is about 30 seconds ahead of NASA TV.  Same dialogue.<br />
Really *really* can&#8217;t get enough of this.  Terrific.<br />
Bob(ExtraBig)</p>
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		<title>By: doofus</title>
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		<dc:creator>doofus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff
I always have wondered, if it was a hoax, why didn&#039;t a single key-grip, or gaffer come forward and say, &quot;Oh yeah, I wired the whole set&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff<br />
I always have wondered, if it was a hoax, why didn&#8217;t a single key-grip, or gaffer come forward and say, &#8220;Oh yeah, I wired the whole set&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like we&#039;re probably going to get nailed by weather. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we&#8217;re probably going to get nailed by weather. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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