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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Flying Sardines--
I&#039;m still waiting for your response over where we first met. It&#039;s odd that nobody told you where I was when you asked. Not surprising though.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/17/shuttle-delayed-until-july-lro-goes-up-thursday/#comment-192686</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Flying Sardines&#8211;<br />
I&#8217;m still waiting for your response over where we first met. It&#8217;s odd that nobody told you where I was when you asked. Not surprising though.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/17/shuttle-delayed-until-july-lro-goes-up-thursday/#comment-192686" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/17/shuttle-delayed-until-july-lro-goes-up-thursday/#comment-192686</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Carnegie said,
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I assume these rockets are filled with ice-cold fuel, like the recent abort.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Technically, the Atlas V 401 is fueled by kerosene, liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, so the fuel is actually way colder than ice (−423.17 °F/−252.87°C). ;) When the liquid hydrogen leaks out (and it will) and mixes with the oxygen in the air, you get ice formations. And you&#039;re right, heating it up only makes this process worse.

8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Carnegie said,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I assume these rockets are filled with ice-cold fuel, like the recent abort.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Technically, the Atlas V 401 is fueled by kerosene, liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, so the fuel is actually way colder than ice (−423.17 °F/−252.87°C). <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  When the liquid hydrogen leaks out (and it will) and mixes with the oxygen in the air, you get ice formations. And you&#8217;re right, heating it up only makes this process worse.</p>
<p>8)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume these rockets are filled with ice-cold fuel, like the recent abort.  So heating the thing to prevent ice forming is a very bad idea when you think about it.  And then does the thing pick up ice in flight, like planes do?

If something goes wrong in a launch, I guess these pictures (webcams?  they got USB ports?  there&#039;s money, I think they strap iPhones to them zoomsticks) may be a big part of the available evidence on how to not do that again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume these rockets are filled with ice-cold fuel, like the recent abort.  So heating the thing to prevent ice forming is a very bad idea when you think about it.  And then does the thing pick up ice in flight, like planes do?</p>
<p>If something goes wrong in a launch, I guess these pictures (webcams?  they got USB ports?  there&#8217;s money, I think they strap iPhones to them zoomsticks) may be a big part of the available evidence on how to not do that again.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire-o'-2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voltaire-o'-2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, thx TEL. :-)

Sounds more like a space race situation then..

But do the various national teams talk &amp; share info with each other at all?

Do they all cover the same ground with the same instruments?

If so, doesn&#039;t that  seem a bit of a waste &amp; unnecesary duplication?

Personally, I&#039;d rather see some co-operation, eg. we&#039;ll cover this ground, you can cover that, we&#039;ll use this instrument &amp; you can use this other one, etc ..

Which nation will be the second to the Moon or the third and who will remember that?

Wouldn&#039;t it be more memorable, more a &quot;first&quot; and, more importantly, more productive to be part of the first international  joint mission to the Moon with, say, an Indian, a Japanese and a Chinese woman-man-woman all stepping out onto the regolith together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, thx TEL. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sounds more like a space race situation then..</p>
<p>But do the various national teams talk &amp; share info with each other at all?</p>
<p>Do they all cover the same ground with the same instruments?</p>
<p>If so, doesn&#8217;t that  seem a bit of a waste &amp; unnecesary duplication?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather see some co-operation, eg. we&#8217;ll cover this ground, you can cover that, we&#8217;ll use this instrument &amp; you can use this other one, etc ..</p>
<p>Which nation will be the second to the Moon or the third and who will remember that?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be more memorable, more a &#8220;first&#8221; and, more importantly, more productive to be part of the first international  joint mission to the Moon with, say, an Indian, a Japanese and a Chinese woman-man-woman all stepping out onto the regolith together?</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.E.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voltaire-o&#039;-2009,

The several Moon satellites from various nations as of late are all independent of each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voltaire-o&#8217;-2009,</p>
<p>The several Moon satellites from various nations as of late are all independent of each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire-o'-2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voltaire-o'-2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um .. Phil Plait, BA, please sir could you answer my question and tell me who you meant by &#039;our&#039;  &lt;i&gt;(ie. NASA, the US, the West, Humanity in general, or ..?)&lt;/i&gt;  I&#039;m kind of curious.

&amp; too, are all these recent lunar probe missions - LRO, Kaguya, Chang&#039;e-1, Chandrayaan-1 completely separate and duplicating each others work and instruments or is there some co-operation, collaboration and deliberate focus on different areas and instruments for each?

Is this more a &#039;space race&#039; type situation or more a &lt;i&gt;&#039;Babylon-5 /Deep Space 9&#039;&lt;/i&gt; type one???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um .. Phil Plait, BA, please sir could you answer my question and tell me who you meant by &#8216;our&#8217;  <i>(ie. NASA, the US, the West, Humanity in general, or ..?)</i>  I&#8217;m kind of curious.</p>
<p>&amp; too, are all these recent lunar probe missions &#8211; LRO, Kaguya, Chang&#8217;e-1, Chandrayaan-1 completely separate and duplicating each others work and instruments or is there some co-operation, collaboration and deliberate focus on different areas and instruments for each?</p>
<p>Is this more a &#8216;space race&#8217; type situation or more a <i>&#8216;Babylon-5 /Deep Space 9&#8242;</i> type one???</p>
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		<title>By: Flying sardines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying sardines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 36.   Mark Hansen Says:

&lt;i&gt;Flying Sardines, I thought the answer to your question would be self-evident. Neil’s out there. He’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there. He’s so out there that he’s tilting at Zionist windmills. &lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I was setting things up for somebody to use that line! ;-)

Actually, &#039;Neil&#039; is who  seems to be  one of the worst fruitcakes ever to post here was predicting the LRO to fail suspiciously - y&#039;know so it doesn&#039;t capture &quot;evidence&quot; that the Moon landings were all faked ...&#039;Neil&#039;, for those who don&#039;t know already, also seems to think the ISS and HST are fake &quot;props&quot;, that spacesuits don&#039;t work, that 9-11 was done by the US gubermint, that the Holocaust never happened, that ... well it would be easier to list the Conspiracy &quot;theories&quot; he doesn&#039;t believe in. Assuming he&#039;s for real &amp; not just a very unfunny Poe .. :roll:

Anyway I was asking to see if &quot;Neil&#039; still thinks its going to fail in suspicicous circumstances and what he &quot;thinks&quot; about the LRO-LCROSS mission so far.. It could prove entertaining in a head-shaking, face-palming sorta way! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 36.   Mark Hansen Says:</p>
<p><i>Flying Sardines, I thought the answer to your question would be self-evident. Neil’s out there. He’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there. He’s so out there that he’s tilting at Zionist windmills. </i></p>
<p>Yeah, I was setting things up for somebody to use that line! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, &#8216;Neil&#8217; is who  seems to be  one of the worst fruitcakes ever to post here was predicting the LRO to fail suspiciously &#8211; y&#8217;know so it doesn&#8217;t capture &#8220;evidence&#8221; that the Moon landings were all faked &#8230;&#8217;Neil&#8217;, for those who don&#8217;t know already, also seems to think the ISS and HST are fake &#8220;props&#8221;, that spacesuits don&#8217;t work, that 9-11 was done by the US gubermint, that the Holocaust never happened, that &#8230; well it would be easier to list the Conspiracy &#8220;theories&#8221; he doesn&#8217;t believe in. Assuming he&#8217;s for real &amp; not just a very unfunny Poe .. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway I was asking to see if &#8220;Neil&#8217; still thinks its going to fail in suspicicous circumstances and what he &#8220;thinks&#8221; about the LRO-LCROSS mission so far.. It could prove entertaining in a head-shaking, face-palming sorta way! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coolstar (#21) I do in fact mean I want humans to return to the Moon. You got a problem with that? Also, please see my comment in the sunspot post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coolstar (#21) I do in fact mean I want humans to return to the Moon. You got a problem with that? Also, please see my comment in the sunspot post.</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.E.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify the story about viable bacteria coming back from the Moon, it&#039;s not perfectly clear that this is the case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reports_of_Streptococcus_mitis_on_the_moon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify the story about viable bacteria coming back from the Moon, it&#8217;s not perfectly clear that this is the case:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reports_of_Streptococcus_mitis_on_the_moon" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reports_of_Streptococcus_mitis_on_the_moon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the bacterial spores are formed from a glycoprotien similar to collagen. They are tough and I believe they have been grown in culture after exposure to the surface of the moon as well as interplanetary space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the bacterial spores are formed from a glycoprotien similar to collagen. They are tough and I believe they have been grown in culture after exposure to the surface of the moon as well as interplanetary space.</p>
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