Star Wars: The Old Republic

By Phil Plait | June 27, 2009 8:56 am

It doesn’t matter if you are a gamer or not, this cinemetic trailer for the new game from EA, Star Wars: The Old Republic, will rawk you down to your midichlorians.

Wow. You kids these days (shakes fist) have no idea how good you have it. Can you imagine a trailer like this for Space Invaders?

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Comments (109)

  1. Mitochlorians?

    I do not think that word means what you think it means. Isn’t it “midichlorians?”

  2. I hope the game play looks like this trailer.

  3. Stone Age Scientist

    Next stop: holodeck.

    ~~~~

    Can you imagine a trailer like this for Space Invaders?

    Kid scratches head, “Um….. what’s Space Invaders?”

  4. Christopher, oops. I meant to check that spelling before posting. I spelled it that way at first as a joke, since the name was obviously a take on mitochondria.

  5. PS, Phil, the video is set to autoplay. That might be okay on your blog, but I read you via the RSS feed on LiveJournal, so every time my page opens, the video hangs my browser while it buffers and then starts to play.

    Any chance you can turn off autoplay?

    (As for the take on “mitochondria,” would a retort of, “Yeah, yo mama” be overly-geeky?)

  6. dhtroy

    Phil,

    If you want to see more games of “today”, hit YouTube, search on E3 2009 Trailers.

    The HD videos are obviously better, since they gave you a more realistic view of what some of these games look like now.

    Yes. They are a far, far cry from the Space Invaders, PacMac and Missile Command of yesterday decade …

    The video games of today are more like playing apart in a movie, and less game; course, you can say the same thing about the production costs of today’s games as well.

  7. MadScientist

    I can never play that game on moral grounds. EA uses SecuROM which robs me of my rights to use the software that I pay for. I do not do business with companies that treat their customers like criminals. When I pay for software I expect it to run, not tell me nonsense such as “a security module could not be loaded” and “you are running a debugger”. I’ve had more than enough of wasting time and money returning such defective products which will not run on a computer with 100% legitimate software (and no debuggers running!)

  8. Hey, you Sith.. get off of my lawn!

    J/P=?

  9. Embedded videos which play automatically fill me with loathing.

    And dropping that kind of production value on something as trite and uninspired as the Star Wars franchise (the good and bad guys are still colour-coded, I see) is the sort of waste which takes the sunshine out of a summer weekend.

    But, on a less curmudgeonly note, now that a famous blogger has asked what a cinematic trailer for Space Invaders would look like, the Internets will make it happen. (You’ve seen the trailer for Pac-Man: The Movie, right?)

    “In a world. . . where destruction rains from the skies. . . one man is the last hope of the human race. . . .”

  10. Jeremy

    You do understand that’s not what the game actually looks like when you play it, right? In fact, it probably has no connection to how the game plays, either. Not that it really matters, the prequels pretty much killed the Star Wars universe for me. :(

  11. can’t wait for this game to come out … then only the NASA moon/mars game and they’ll need to redefine the meaning of “heaven”

  12. Gary Ansorge

    I notice on their main page, there is no mention of how much this game COSTS to play. Or am I just so old I haven’t figured out it’s paid for by advertising???

    I’m always suspicious about any service or product that doesn’t have the price right up front because THERE AIN’T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

    ,,,but the graphics are Waaaayyy cool.

    GAry 7

  13. Lisa

    It’s a great trailer except one thing. Was anyone else distressed by the way (about 2:45 in) he jumps from the air and the lightsaber goes part way into the ground and stops, much like a real sword would? it’s a friggin light saber. It’s either going to go all of the way in or none of the way in… just sayin.
    And there are a lot of video games today that are not mostly movie and no plot, there’s so many games out there besides the major blockbuster x-box releases. Indie game makers are rising and shining.

  14. PJW

    That game trailer was better than all three prequels put together.

  15. Chip

    Just one opinion: – Nice graphics, artwork, animation and attention to detail – and I am so not into this. YAWN!

  16. Bioware games play very well. I’m not a fan of them all but on average they tend to make very good games.

    And ditto about the securerom thing.

    What makes it even worse is that these games are usually cracked the day they are released so there’s nothing stopping anyone from acquiring a free copy that works without copy protection.

    The only people being punished are the people who legitimately paid for the game.

    But don’t worry. I’ll get that big bad pooty-head and save the universe… again (sigh).

    ==================

    8. John Paradox Says:
    June 27th, 2009 at 9:38 am
    Hey, you Sith.. get off of my lawn!

    ————-

    Very good!

  17. PS. Has anyone played any of the following:

    Wing Commander Privateer
    Freelancer (modern version of Privateer)
    X3 Reunion
    Mass Effect

    ??

  18. doofus

    Wow, a science-fiction based, 3d shoot-em-up. What a cool concept. I hope no one copies the idea.

  19. Jeger0

    17#
    I have played Mass Effect, its in the list of my top 5 games.
    Everyone who play games at all should try Mass Effect.
    You choose yourself where to go in our Galaxy, some planets are very well designed.
    The technology part is so amazing and its great because its so believable.

  20. #14, PJW: My thoughts exactly!

    Maybe Phil could get his book made into a video game! “The Fate of all Mankind Rests In Your Hands… As Death From The Skies Rains Down…”

    Apparently Phil wrote a book, which i just bought. Who knew?

  21. Matt

    @16

    It should be noted that this game is an MMO akin to World of Warcaft: Star Wars Knights of the old republic edition. So that means you need a legitimate paying monthly subscription to play the game and as such theres no chance of piracy.

    As for game-play footage there’s video of an early alpha on youtube. Its mostly scenery until around 3m20s when mandalorian and jedi gameplay is shown….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AevmEGsZH7E

  22. Mark

    Space Invaders you say?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UfB1_Jznvg

    Now that’s a trailer!

    (Um, yeah, the Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR?) trailer is awesomeness).

  23. Jeremy

    @CafeenMan

    I’ve played all of the above, actually.

  24. Shadowen

    @Doofus It’s for a MMORPG, not a shooter.

    I’d be a lot happier with this this thing if the Sith hadn’t won. Just once, I’d like to see the Jedi successfully defend their, y’know, home base from assault. Yes, there’s reasons given, and from a logical standpoint anyone who would attack the temple would either make sure they’d win or would be so crazy it would be more comical than exciting to watch…

    …ut it’s happened at least five times I’m aware of, including the Darth-Vader-lead assault in Episode III, and the Jedi always lose.

  25. Ari

    As cool as that looked, it’s unfortunate that this game comes at the expense of a sequel to Knights of the Old republic 2. ~bitterness.
    Also, given that this is an MMORPG, understand that *you’re* not playing anyone who got camera time in the video. You’re the 12th guy over with the red lightsaber who got shot 15 seconds in. Assuming you’re not the droid.

  26. Viewer 3

    Wow. What an awful trailer. Trying desperately to make every visual and action sequence “culturally relevant to today’s gullible whoa-kick-ass teen market” instead of giving us scenes that we actually CARE about seeing is what has killed the franchise. Any time something screams “LOOK AT THESE DOPE MATRIX MOVES” as loudly as this does, it just comes across as laughably pathetic. Oh and hey, what does every sequel do when it eventually runs out of ideas? Oh, I know! Let’s add a new ass-kicking female character to the mix! Yeah, there ya go, some sexy skinny chick kicking ass, that ALWAYS generates new interest!

    …Right.

    I’m not a Star Wars “purist” by any means, in that for me, the prequel saga is like a Magic Eye picture; if you squint and cross your eyes just right, you can maybe see the value in it. But wow, people who find trailers like this “cool” are entirely the reason why Hollywood/video game makers continue to crank out utterly brainless movies and games, because they continue to assume that such asinine “look how hip our character’s kung fu moves are” action will sell. And unfortunately it still does. So I’m gonna hate this trailer strictly based on merit and the incredible number of style points it sacrifices in favor of the sudden-slow-downs-with-swooping-bass-audio type of recycled garbage. Otherwise it could have possibly been a decent concept.

  27. Moose

    It looks great for a render, and assuming the actual game plays anything like that, it should be fun… up until the horde of trash talking, pottymouthed 12 year olds ruin it for everyone. Meh. I won’t play an MMO. I want KotOR 3.

  28. schism

    The last MMORPG (well, not “massively” exactly, but whatever) I played was Phantasy Star Online for the Dreamcast. The reason it was the last is because the internet was 99.99% composed of idiots and griefers at the time and, if anything, has gotten worse since. No way am I paying a monthly fee for that “experience.”

  29. If nothing else, it HAS to be better than that last Star Wars Galaxies MMORPG they churned out. Everyone here in my house had an account. It was just not very good at all……

  30. Harry

    Gah, what a bunch of miserable naysayers! Give the bloody game a chance will you! Yes the starwars universe is overused but Bioware also have a good track record and I trust them to make it work, it’ll at least be better than the mess LucasArts made of Galaxies. Also, being that it’s an MMORPG it wont need any draconian copy protection because you’ll need to sign up for an account on a pay-monthly-subscription basis in order to log in. The only question now being weather or not you like MMORPGS, and I doubt anyone here who occupies EITHER side of that particular fence is going to be swayed by anything that anyone says, shiny trailer or not.

  31. PAN

    Viewer 3, yeah right! Ha! I’m too good for you regular geeks, I’m super special! Star War movies suck, Matrix sucks! The only good ones are obscure ones! The Beastie Boys aren’t real rappers! KFC isn’t organic chicken!

    meh.

  32. Viewer 3

    …Right. SW and the first Matrix are among my favorite movies of all time, and are still amazing and original from technical and conceptual standpoints. I hate the overwhelming majority of obscure movies. Beastie Boys are real rappers. And I love KFC. Did I miss anything? Or are there any more woefully inaccurate and unfounded assumptions up your sleeve?

    Being a “geek” means you actually appreciate originality and entertainment in places many people don’t, not gawking at every flashy and shiny thing that some big studio spoon-feeds you. Not having my jaw hit the floor over this trailer doesn’t mean I don’t “get” it or that I’m not a Star Wars “geek”; it means that I’d rather not settle for unoriginality and style (or at least what studios and marketing people THINK is “style”) over actual substance and meaning. You’re entirely free to enjoy whatever you want, I’m simply saying there’s absolutely nothing original or entertaining about this trailer whatsoever.

    And schism, I’m totally with you on the PSO thing. I played that game from the moment V1 was released, and those were the days when it completely blew my mind and was officially the coolest thing ever. But then yeah, the idiots and GameSharkers took over and completely killed it. =[

  33. C

    The trailer is awesome. And, c’mon, if we want to analyze a GAME TRAILER, we have to analyze this in the right way. What is the best thing about original trilogy Star Wars? Its story, characters, and mythic quality. Not special effects. Now, this trailer has some great action, but it also opens up the possibility of an interesting story. The Sith Empire vs. Republic deal is a more interesting, dramatic idea than anything in the first two prequels. And the characters? The villain was interesting, and, for some reason, I cared more about that central Jedi than anyone in Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones.

    While we’re on this subject, I suppose I should say that Revenge of the Sith is a better movie than Return of the Jedi, and maybe that’s the reason I still hold out hope for the Star Wars franchise.

  34. BMurray

    I didn’t see any games in the trailer.

  35. PAN

    Still not buying it, there were original elements to that trailer. I think you instantly discounted it because of what are now standard components to scifi/fantasy movies and games. Original doesn’t mean good and not being original doesn’t mean it’s bad either. Clearly, you suffer from elitist geekism. I think you reacted so negatively because deep down you wet your pants watching the trailer and are now embarrassed. Do not feel bad, this too shall pass.

  36. Mike Wagner

    Speaking of Space Invaders, has anyone seen the new version?
    They jazzed it up, and added some new twists, and it’s pretty darn cool. I played the demo on the 360 last month and enjoyed it. If it comes to PS3 I’m getting it.

  37. pablo

    Looks better than the last 3 movies.

  38. Torbjörn Larsson, OM

    elitist geekism

    And so it begins…

    [Nah, actually, that's a pretty fair sum up of what PP tries to push (for good reasons), but separately. I just hadn't thought it would come together.]

  39. strahlungsamt

    I always love the way the Empire (or the Republic – not sure which) can zap a planet to smithereens, blow things up from the air/space and have all kinds of weapons technology that the CIA couldn’t touch.

    And yet, all scores are settled with swordfights.

    Anyone else find this strange?

    And if I see another mid-air leap where the camera slows down or stops, moves around and starts up again, I am going to barf. If you are going for realism, let’s keep it real, OK.

  40. strahlungsamt

    Yes, the prequels sucked big time and killed it for me too. Just like the new “The Taking of Pelham 123″ will suck.

    Why not leave good enough alone?

    Not only is the charm of the original lost but part of the charm was seeing how they managed to make a great movie “back in the day” and when every SPFX had to be invented from scratch.

    Nowadays we know a computer did it. No fun anymore.

    Here’s a great idea for some indy filmmaker. Make a Sci-Fi film with old Airfix model effects and blue-screen. No digital effects allowed. Kind of a latter-day Eraserhead.

  41. Jearley

    As to settling fights with swords, swing a light saber. Now, turn it off half way through your swing as your opponent makes their block. Then turn it back on, as you complete your swing. Should work, right? Seems strange that no Jedi thought to try this….

  42. Utakata

    For info about that MMO go visit:

    http://www.massively.com/category/star-wars-the-old-republic

    (No, that’s not a keylogger.)

    You’ll see ingame footage amoung other things.

    I’m still waiting for my Wookie start-up area.

  43. schism

    Jearley, there’s (perhaps unofficially) an entire combat style dedicated to that exact trick.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tr%C3%A0kata

  44. Quiet_Desperation

    You kids these days (shakes fist) have no idea how good you have it.

    Psst! Hey, Phil! We adults can play, too! I’m 44 and currently exploring Point Lookout in Fallout 3.

    I’m a gamer since 1974 (Magnavox Odyssey), but I just don’t have the time to devote to online gaming, especially these days. I was looking forward to a good KOTOR sequel, but I’m disappointed it’s an MMO. Games like Fallout I can play a bit and save and not have to coordinate with an entire team of other folks.

    “Save anywhere” is something I wish the JRPG makers would finally pick up on. Maybe the next gen of consoles can have a mode like hibernate in Windows where the console saves whatever you are doing to disc and shuts off, restoring you back to where you were next time, even in the middle of a firefight. And end to save points altogether. I’m the customer. I want to play *my* way on *my* schedule. You hear me Peter Molyneux? Virtual world should invite experimentation by allowing me to undo mistakes.

    Being a “geek” means you actually appreciate originality and entertainment in places many people don’t,

    In your strange and distant universe, perhaps. Go back and look at the cries of “Waily, waily, waily!” whenever there was a cast change on Stargate, or a Trek episode broke from the Holy Canon Manifesto. Look at how really innovative games don’t do well and how the industry is glutted with FP shooters, racers and space marines/WW2 soldiers blowing stuff up. The geek world has plenty of its own well worn ruts.

  45. «bønez_brigade»

    **wishes a degree-pursuit wasn’t the current arbiter of free time**

    [+1 for embedded video services that offer direct download, btw]

  46. Evan

    Saw this a few weeks ago, but will never pass up another chance to watch it again and again and again. It kind of makes me wish I played more video games.

    Maybe not exactly what you mean, but your mention of Space Invaders reminds me of Royksopp’s music video Happy Up Here with “live-action” invaders, and a taxi cab driving back and forth to shoot them down. Amuses me.

  47. Too bad cinematic trailers hype up the game-play to the point that you are disappointed by it when it isn’t just like the movie.

  48. Utakata

    Hmm…looks like the info I linked to this game never got posted.

    I’ll play it safe this time. For thos e who are interested: Just go over to Massively and put Star Wars: The Old Republic in their Search Engine. It will give you all the follow-up and insight stuff about it released so far.

    And you’ll have to stuff Massively into Google to find it…’cause I don’t want to be posting this again otherwise. Sorry.

  49. Sespetoxri

    Looks great to me- but I’m not going to be playing any MMO’s again any time soon. Evercrack was the end for me.

  50. PsyberDave

    It looks just like Asteroids.

  51. kingnor

    i have no idea who anyone is in the trailer… i don’t really care who they are.

    neat eye candy phil, but meh, not interested in the game. not really interested in star wars anymore honestly.

  52. Dan I

    The Old Republic definitely looks good. I’m also very excited about Star Trek: Online which, if done well (and it has a good company behind it) could be fantastic.

    I really think video games are FINALLY starting to a get a little bit of respect from the mainstream.

    Unfortunately, MOST mainstream still look at video games are purely “child-oriented” and focus on the the fact that games like Grand Theft Auto are supposedly “made for children.” Which is BS, there’s giant M 17+ on the box for a reason.

    But whenever someone tells me games are nothing but violence or not art, or just stupid I point them to the new trailer for “The Last Guardian.”

    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-the-last/50352

    56K warning, that’s the high-def link.

    But if THAT game doesn’t prove games should be art nothing will.

  53. Chris

    I was hoping, nay, PRAYING that this was a sequal to KOTOR 2. But it’s another friggin MMORPG. I play games to GET AWAY from people, not see them in a digital form.

    If only Bethesda could get a hold on the franchise…

  54. robhoofd

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmcPeuf5aXo
    I count that as a Space Invaders trailer.

    Also, I have “Return of the Jedi” for the Atari 2600, and I suck at it.

  55. Porky Pine

    Pretty pre-rendered CGI trailers do not a good video game make. Remember the trailer of that other SW game that showed you taking down a Star Destroyer with the force? Remember how crappy that game turned out?

  56. robhoofd

    The comment moderation thing confused me into posting twice, sorry about that.

  57. James

    Frankly, the worst part about Star Wars MMO’s is that the developers feel the need to let everyone be a Jedi.

    And so the universe contains much more Jedi than normal people.

    And so it’s completely not like Star Wars at all, no matter how much effort has been put into the setting.

  58. Eww, how pixely. There’s a 720p version on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4iL5uUDf5I

  59. Stone Age Scientist

    Phil, Free Spirit website from NASA:

    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/freespirit/

  60. cvj

    I’m confused. Which one is Captain Kirk?

    -cvj

  61. JackC

    Space Invaders?? I thought you maybe meant this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-rF9CgEaTs

    JC

  62. Pocket Nerd

    Is that Malak?

  63. Billy Bob

    Not that it doesn’t look cool… but how many times do we have to see the Sith just coming in and owning the place.
    Makes Vader and Palpatine wimps in comparison.

    Plus, I’m sstarting to get tired of seeing “Cool Jedi dies fast.”

  64. Menyambal

    If you click on the swoopy arrow in the controls at the bottom of the video, you can download a massive version of it.

    Which looks pretty good. I’m not a fan of the games, or the newer Star Wars, but the video does rock. Mostly.

    Thanks, Phil.

  65. The Mutt

    Pretty much the only good thing about getting old is being able to recognize the explosive advancement of technology. I feel like I’m living in the Sci-Fi stories of my youth. (Minus the flying cars.)

    I grew up on Jason fighting the skeletons. Now this.

    Any one shot from this would have been the centerpiece effect of a movie ten years ago.

    This is better than the last three Star Wars movies put together!

  66. MadScientist

    @Blake Stacey: wow – I’ll be looking forward to that Space Invaders trailer! That should please the BA, with its Death From The Skies and all.

    @schism: I stopped playing online games years ago. On World of Warcraft for example, while you’re chatting with people every 4 seconds spam just shows up “want 2 lvl fast?” “wants gazillions of gold?” I told the Blizzard folks to do something about it or I’m gone – they did absolutely nothing, in fact the spamming only got worse, so I left.

    @Viewer 3: There seems to be this school of cinematography which teaches that an abysmal script can always be compensated for by infantile camera tricks, expensive computer graphics, or a combination of the two. Consider TV shows with the super-shaky camera and the habitual zoom in/out. I used to think that the camera operators were incompetent (can’t steady a camera, keep bumping the zoom buttons) but apparently not being able to use the camera properly is a “skill”. The editing crew is also to blame for many things such as playing with color saturation, blurring effects, etc. I guess when you have an audience that grew up with “Ren and Stimpy” you have to make all other shows follow that format (including the news) or you just won’t get those viewers.

    OK, I need to howl about that “autoplay” – It’s ANNOYING! And it’s also wasting my limited bandwidth. I think I’ll have to disable the Flash plugin.

  67. Darth Robo

    Could be good, could be bad. I’m reluctant to play an MMO cuz of the monthly fee. As for the trailer,

    We kick butt.

  68. José

    Has anyone ever been killed by turning on a light saber when they thought they had grabbed a flashlight?

  69. O_O So … Much … Win …

  70. Daniel

    It’s an MMORPG guys.

    Like World of Warcraft.

    And Bioware is pretty much a always hit company when it comes to games.

    Their Knights of the Old Republic RPG’s were 10 times more interesting than any of the newer Star Wars Content. I’m excited.

  71. doofus

    I wrote games for 20 years, until I finally got tired of it.

    “They” always wanted to be like Hollywood. Well, they finally made it. Because games now cost so much, publishers are very reluctant to to go out on a limb and do something unique.

    Better to make a game with a guaranteed return rate, no matter how small, than release something that might make nothing. I can’t count the number of meetings I attended that included the phrase, “let’s make a game like …”.

    I’m a big Chris Crawford guy, from way back. I had the chance to meet him in ’88, and his viewpoint skewed my viewpoint ever since.

  72. Grant Howat

    I miss the old Seirra games. Quest for Glory 1 & 2, King’s Quest, Space Quest….. those were the days…

  73. José

    @Grant
    My brother, sister, and I played those games to death when we were kids. The things that made me sour on them were the two months we spent randomly searching for that stupid bridle in Kings Quest 4, and the fact that the games went point and click. Half the fun was testing each game to see what swear words they would recognize.

  74. Grant Howat

    @José
    Yeah, typing in commands with questionable motives always returned interesting replies.
    But those games actually made me laugh, and they really did take me away on adventures. I have fond memories of those winter nights by the fire trying to save Rasier when I should have been doing homework…. fond memories.

  75. Jearley

    43. schism Says:
    June 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Jearley, there’s (perhaps unofficially) an entire combat style dedicated to that exact trick.

    Dang. I though that I had thought up something cool. I don’t game, so I missed that.

  76. alfaniner

    I never trust a preview or a cut scene to be an actual representation of the game.

  77. Joao

    Ah, the tendency to bash things to show how badass we are. Can we just enjoy the trailer for what it is, please? But I’ll join the people crying because this isn’t KotOR III. Star Wars KotOR, Final Fantasy XIV… I guess developers saw the huge pile of money Blizzard is making with World of Warcraft and now prefer to create more MMORPGs than make good sequels.
    Despite the level of competency Bioware usually have, lets hope this is a bad game – WoW has destroyed enough geek lifes already.

    PS: Bet Phil didn’t see all this commotion coming when he posted this trailer.

  78. Dykan

    The trailer is nothing like the game play. But it still looks like its going to be a great game. While I wasnt alive when the original Star Wars movies came out, I have seen them all and like the newer movies much better. Also games that try to be like movies always seem better to me than games that don’t.

  79. Small Red Giant

    Firefox with Flashblock means it only plays when I tell it to play.

  80. bassmanpete

    I remember being impressed with Pong; and Space Invaders was mind blowing!

    MadScientist said ‘There seems to be this school of cinematography which teaches that an abysmal script can always be compensated for by infantile camera tricks, expensive computer graphics, or a combination of the two.’

    I agree entirely. I loved The Matrix but the two sequels were rubbish, imho, for exactly the reason you mention.

  81. Flying sardines

    Looked pretty awesome to me. 8)

    Now I’m not really a gamer at all & I grew up on the original Star Wars trilogy which for me were “The Movies.”

    So okay its all gone to CGI eye candy & it’s nothing that original anymore .. nothings new under the Sun … Plus I’m sure its full of bad astronomy or science and .. waaah, waaah, they shoulda made *that* game or *this* game or the *other game* instead …

    … But, hey, stuff it, I still liked that trailer. THX Phil. :-)

    PS. Re: The Star Wars prequels – okay they were never going to be as good as the original but ‘Revenge of the Sith’ was still a great movie IMHO & the other two had their moments – both good moments and some truly cringe-worthy ones.

  82. Petrolonfire

    @ 31. PAN :

    Viewer 3, yeah right! Ha! I’m too good for you regular geeks, I’m super special! Star War movies suck, Matrix sucks! The only good ones are obscure ones! The Beastie Boys aren’t real rappers! KFC isn’t organic chicken!

    Organic rabbit maybe … ?? ;-)

    @ 68. José Says:

    Has anyone ever been killed by turning on a light saber when they thought they had grabbed a flashlight?

    No – because, & I hate to break this to ya, lightsabers aren’t real. ;-)

    @ 39. strahlungsamt :

    I always love the way the Empire (or the Republic – not sure which) can zap a planet to smithereens, blow things up from the air/space and have all kinds of weapons technology that the CIA couldn’t touch. And yet, all scores are settled with swordfights. Anyone else find this strange?

    Strange maybe, fun definitely!

    Blowing up the planet of the bad guys is plain cheating. (Plus there’s the collateral damage factor) & using a blaster instead of a sword is; as Obi Wan said after killing Greivous, “so-o uncivilised” – not to mention much less cool. If you are watching SW for logic you’re missing the point. Its mythology and entertainment not science.

    And if I see another mid-air leap where the camera slows down or stops, moves around and starts up again, I am going to barf. If you are going for realism, let’s keep it real, OK.

    No. Let’s not.

    Star Wars – Realism? You’re kidding me right?

    What would Star Wars be if it was meant to be ‘real’? Whats “reality” in a SciFi=-Fantasy – of the sword and spaceship variety.

    FTL? Gone. Jedi with their superpowers? Gone. Death Stars blowing up entire planets? Gone. Real AI robots? Arguably gone to. Lilttle green frog men sages? Arguably gone. Princesses and Lords – hmm .. probably gone too. Mythic archetypes? Yeah right when did you run into them in reality. :roll:

    So what’s left? Not Star Wars that’s for sure. Would we be better off without it or any other fantasy entertainment – I don’t think so. :-(

    Star Wars is meant to be escapist entertaining fun. Take it for what it is.

    Or don’t, its up to you. But don’t cry and stamp your little feet because Star Wars isn’t War & Peace or the misadventures of gritty Yorkshire coal-miners made redundant – its NOT supposed to be, doofus. :-(

    @ 9. Blake Stacey Says:
    .. dropping that kind of production value on something as trite and uninspired as the Star Wars franchise (the good and bad guys are still colour-coded, I see) is the sort of waste which takes the sunshine out of a summer weekend.

    Crikey dude, tell us what you really think! ;-)

    Sheesh, not a bit prejudiced there are you? :-(

    The good and bad guys are colour coded because its avisual medium and we kinda like to tell in an instant who’s who & who’s on what side. It’d be a bit confusing otherwise. You don’t want the sides to look the same for the obvious reason of telling them apart and avoiding “friendly fire”. Duh!

    Nor is SW alone in this LotR has kinda handsome /beuaetuiful heros and heroines and, well, butt-ugly orcs. Old style Westerns had black hats and white hats.

    It makes a pleasant change from the horrid confusion of real & very unromantic unpleasnat and arguably dishonourable modern asymetric war – ie. is that a terrorist or a civilan? Is that burka clad woman an innocent bystander or a suicide bomber? Are they not stopping because they don’t speak english or are they trying to ram a car bomb into us ..? Are we even the good guys liberating or the bad ones occupying here? Y’know all that type thingy … which ahs its own mobvie sand is its own grim “genre”.

    Yikes, isn’t it alright to step aside from that sordid nasty modern news channel reality stuff and just have a fun, straight out good vs evil – both clearly identifiable and not confused – thing as recreation once in a while. Even if only for a short time as something different?

    Don’t you get that? :-(

    SW : “Trite, uninspired eye candy?”

    Eye candy yes. Guilty as charged – its flashy and fun and light, unpretentious (well largely so) entertainment.

    As for truite and uninspired – well if it so bad then ask yourself why is it so popular? Why do its mythic themes and archetypes get so many people cheering and enjoying it? If myth making is so easy then try it yourself! Really, try it. Come up with something as successful, as entertaining, as much good as escapist, “lets just vege out and watch this to take our minds off things” satisfying.

    Go on. Rather than kvetching and whining on blogs like this actually try doing better.
    You never know. You may succeed in being the next George Lucas – or you may find its a hell of a lot harder than it looks.

    PS. For what its worth, I write SF & have tried my hand at space opera myself.

  83. Petrolonfire

    BTW. Loved <3 the trailer! THX BA for sharing it with us. :-D

    Also note I'm NOT saying there's no place for grim thought-provoking movies about Iraq or Vietnam or the plight of unemployed coal miners in Nothern South Dakota or whatever else.

    There's room for movies* like ‘Blackhawk Down’ and ‘Apocalpyse Now’ and ‘Brassed Off’ and ‘October Sky’ (aka Rocket Boys, I think) and for the ‘Star Wars’ movies too. Sometimes I’m in the mood for one or other of these movies or genres, other times another.

    All I’m saying is take things on their own merits. ‘ Blackhawk Down’ isn’t ‘Star Wars’ it isn’t meant to be; the two movies belong to very different genres and thus have very different purposes and very different rules and, duh, one is meant to be serious and realistic while the other ain’t. Fantasy isn’t supposed to be realism.

    Maybe ‘Star Wars’, doesn’t float your boat whatever. But don’t criticise it simply for being ‘Star Wars.’

    ——
    * Movies, plus books, games, TV series, etc .. too.

  84. Pieter Kok

    Petrolonfire, Brassed Off is sentimental tripe disguised as a “quality movie”.

    Edit: autoplay = evil.

  85. Anonymous

    Well, the 14-year olds & their mental equivalents will love the trailer. However, I’ve never really appreciated the “OMG! Tht totaly ROXXX!!!” modern interpretation of Sith vs. Jedi lightsaber fights. It just seems very juvenile without any artistic merit.

    One thing that has always bothered me about “The Old Republic” & just the timeline of the Star Wars history in general is that there never seems to be any technological advances. Take a snapshot of an Old Republic setting & it looks no different then “modern” Star Wars settings. Our civilization advances 300 years & there is indisputable evidence of technological progress; 300 years goes by in their timeline & the people go from one different-looking droid to another different looking droid. I really think that it’s a deficiency in imagination.

    Probably the thing that disturbs me the most in all of this is the turn away of projecting the Sith as evil to them simply being “Badass.” Doesn’t Lucas realize he’s turned the entire point of Star Wars on it’s head by indirectly glorifying the Sith?

    While going after the “Red Bull” adolescent crowd will fill the coffers of LucasArts, I still won’t forgive them for canceling the Sam & Max Freelance Police game that they were ON THE VERGE OF COMPLETING &, in a cruel twist, wouldn’t even sell to interested third-parties for completion. Did LucasArts gain anything by their “No, you can’t have it!” selfishness other then to further batter their reputation as a “Star Wars-only” production house?

    Anyway, let the little kids have their fun. An adolescent & their money are quickly parted…

  86. Dragan

    Phil, regarding autoplay problem, try with this youtube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjJaAA5A7w

    and autoplay parameter:

    http://code.google.com/intl/sr/apis/youtube/player_parameters.html

  87. I think Lucas’ main concern isn’t the Star Wars universe, but merchandising. And what makes it really bad is that licensed Star Wars merchandise is almost always really low quality crap.

  88. Ari

    Re: sith and evil/badass:
    To be fair, at least in the knights of the old republic games, the sith have a (sort of) coherent philosophy of “only the strong survive”. This makes them more amoral than eeeeeevil (and yes, sometimes kinda badass). It’s not like they -enjoy- being evil so much as that it’s sometimes necessary to break rules for greater good. Heck, part of the reason that KOTOR2 had such a compelling plot was the notion (not explored nearly enough in the – alas – unfinished story) that the sith may have actually been *correct* in their actions by some lights.

    In other words, as cool as it is to walk around wearing black and having the imperial march theme play while you choke people, having characters do potentially “evil” things for “good” reasons may be even cooler for storytelling purposes.

  89. Nova Terata

    Anyone remember Star Flight? I find Mass Effect to be strangely similar. How you find natural resources and stuff and explore planets with almost nothing on them.. very Zen. Except Star Flight is like a complete abstraction and Mass Effect its like you’re really there… trapped in a cockpit with Seth Green :( i) HALP!

  90. Stone Age Scientist

    Hi Phil, the video in the link below may provide a clue on how to turn off the autoplay. The video gives some directions on how to go about this, though I’m not sure if it will work here. Worth a try.

    http://review-webprosperity.com/62/how-to-stop-autoplay-on-a-web-prosperity-embedded-video/

    Good luck.

  91. Tom

    Phil
    re: autoplay;
    hmmm, looking the the source files – with quicktimes and WMVs there should be a line in the embedding code

    I forget the details but Flash doesn’t work that way? Something is set when the flv is made sets the autoplay, not in the embedding code. Can you switch to a QT or WMV trailer?

    And someone should do a “real” Space Invaders trailer, retro style, as it would look in the 70s. Disco music, Orson Welles narrating, feathered-wing haircuts…

  92. Tom

    I forget the details but Flash doesn’t work that way? Something is set when the flv is made sets the autoplay, not in the embedding code. Can you switch to a QT or WMV trailer?

    And someone should do a “real” Space Invaders trailer, retro style, as it would look in the 70s. Disco music, Orson Welles narrating, feathered-wing haircuts…

  93. Dragan (#86): Thanks. I only had the original trailer from the game site itself (a friend works for EA), so that YouTube link does the trick!

    And Joao (#77): Of course I did. I learned long ago that on the net, people will complain if you give them free money. I’m just surprised there was no real Trek/Wars action.

  94. Stuart Van Onselen

    Darn it Phil! What’s with this huge wad of 20s? Couldn’t you make it easier to handle by giving me 50s? Is that too much to ask of my free money? :)

    WRT the Mandalorian and Twi’lek characters in that clip: I’ve long since grown really sick of “chicks” in video-games. Women chracters I’m happy with, but characters included solely to attract 14yo virgin guys just irritate this 36yo guy who can get quality porn any time he wants and doesn’t need to drool over polygonal mammaries. In fact I just find it a distraction from the game, and it also maintains the stereotype that games are justfor 14yo virgin boys.

    Although I suppose I should be grateful that the Star Wars sexual eye-candy is at least fully-clothed, as opposed to the really egregious stuff most publishers push.

    I get irritated by sexual marketing in general. But what really, really irritates me is having to work on a Sunday evening, which is why I am procrastinating by adding inane comments to blogs. Maybe if I procrastinate long enough I’ll get fired on Monday. One can only hope…

  95. I am not much of a gamer, being a girl, but I do love Star Wars. I miss the days when it was considered hands down cooler than Trek. To be fair though, it always had a kid’s side. After all, before Jar Jar, there were Ewoks.

  96. Daniel

    “PS. Re: The Star Wars prequels – okay they were never going to be as good as the original but ‘Revenge of the Sith’ was still a great movie IMHO & the other two had their moments – both good moments and some truly cringe-worthy ones.”

    I have to completely disagree on that one.

    If you liked them of course, by all means like them. I have no problem with that. But Lucas has become a lazy director/editor/storyteller over the last twenty years, and those movies really, really, showed it. Whatever IT he had, the spark, the creativity, it is now long gone.

    ROTS had it’s moments yes I agree, but I still think it’s a pretty terrible movie. Lowered expectations always arrive at a free pass I suppose…

    I remember reading an interview with him, I think it was in Time, between TPM and AOTC and he was stating that he started the trilogy so early because nobody would want to see Darth Vader running around being evil for an entire movie. It would be too dark for audiences to handle. He even said he had doubts that the III movie would even be worth it financially because of how dark it was going to be (it sure as hell wasn’t dark at all).

    How completely out of touch is that?

    The prequels bother me because they were just poorly made films, on a fundamental level. Not even creatively, and like a tightrope walker suddenly tripping in front of you, it is completely unacceptable.

  97. Liam Hagerty

    Being in the age 20-30 demographic (22), I found the trailer entertaining but a completely worthless display of the game itself. I never really liked the Star Wars games, except for the Rogue Squadron series, and this one doesn’t seem like it’s going to be much different. At the very least a different game is being made and I have to give Lucas credit for that. That’s a stark contrast to some of Nintendo’s recent endeavours where they’ve been literally re-releasing Gamecube games on the Wii with “New Controls” and then calling it a brand new product. Nevertheless, I share the opinion that George Lucas needs to develop some new non-Star Wars Intellectual Property.

    That being said, I’ve also noticed that this is a general marketing trend in the game industry. A studio releases an independent short trailer that is related but not part of the game, then slowly leaks gameplay videos as the product is ready to be manufactured and shipped. Often times, as previous posters said, the trailer and the game look nothing alike.

    There is hope however. I’ve seen one exception in Gran Turismo 5 for the PS3. The trailers out there are rendered using the game engine and so, surprisingly, actually look like the game. The same can also be said about the one trailer I’ve seen for Star Trek Online.

    It’ll be an interesting next decade. Luckily, the instructors in my Game Software Development degree don’t advocate for these kind of trailers, so I’m optimistic for the future of game developers and the public despite examples like the one above.

  98. Yes, this trailer is awesome, but I saw it weeks ago. Why mention it now?
    Yes, This will be an MMO. No, it won’t be World of Warcraft.
    Yes, I’m planning to give it a try.

    Bioware’s a good company, and I liked their other Star Wars game. Let’s see what they can do with an MMO.

  99. IBY

    Hhhmmm… Looks better than episode I and II combined… ^_^

  100. Ben

    People who knock the trailer for being too “action” oriented are morons. Anyone who knows Bioware knows that they are among the best storytellers in the gaming world. They are one of the handful of devs who I will unquestioningly hand my hard earned money, because not once have they let me down. KOTOR I and II are easily two of the best SW games ever made, and The Old Republic will take the bar set by them even higher. So if you don’t know Bioware, shut up, because this game’s greatness is assured.

  101. Bog

    I guess developers saw the huge pile of money Blizzard is making with World of Warcraft and now prefer to create more MMORPGs than make good sequels.

    An online component gets shoehorned into everything these days, even games where it makes little sense. Sadly, you can rattle off what it will be without knowing anything else about the game: deathmatch, team deathmatch, capture the flag, defend the fort, and endless minor variations of the same old thing. I don’t think it’s possible to have a deep, collective online experience. Too many people would have to be too coordinated to ever make it work. Real life just intrudes too much.

    That’s what drives me nuts about games with widely separated save points. I’m sure the developers have some grand unified theory about challenge and gameplay and presentation that made sense when they were all high on weed, but I just don’t give a hoot. Sometimes it’s 1 am and I want to go to bed without losing an hour of game progress, or the phone rings and I need to go- now!

  102. kikilis

    Superb fighting scenes.
    But when i youtubed the gameplay, sadness descended upon me….

  103. LuanneO'Neill

    Some of you people need to lighten up…and move out of your mother’s basement.

  104. PG

    I think somebody broke the HTML for this page by including lines of embedding code or something. In the middle of comment #91, the comments jump to the top of the column on the right normally used for links and things like “About Bad Astronomy”, etc. (I’m using FF 3.0.11 to view it).

  105. Tom

    Looks very cool, but if you are a casual game player like myself and 40+ ish in age, you will get your butt handed to you buy those kids online. We get out and do things outside, kids these days never leave their computers, so they are way too good at these games for us “old farts” to have any fun.

    Long live Space Invaders and Atari Asteroids! :-D

  106. rob

    where are the ewoks? i want light-sabre swinging ewoks on lunch boxes!
    :)

  107. Stuart van Onselen

    @Tom
    What is this “outside” of which you speak?

    All I ever see around me is office walls. “Outside” consists of the 25 freezing seconds it takes me to get from my front door into my car before I drive off to work.

    So I even have trouble these days with single-player games. The time-commitment of most PC games is getting harder and harder to make. And I don’t even have a wife and kids!

    No matter how “adult” games like GTA like to act, the fact is that most adults don’t have the time to play them, alas and alack.

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