>>>> 34. Jeff Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
assuming there is a “soul” ; no scientific evidence for it ; probably just a fantasy like “ghosts” and all that jazz. >>>>

MOST CERTAINLY there is a “Soul,” Jeff. Most of all religions recognize such a “thing,” but religions are a rather new thing (under 5,000 years old) — Christianity itself being the actual “New Kid on Block” existing a mere 2,000 years.

Spiritual Philosphy by way of an Ancient Wisdom has reference to the Soul and this form of philosphy has roots back 40,000 years — far earlier than conventional recorded history. These can be readily validated in metal artifacts, art, and graphic depiction in carvings and architecture. MOST IMPORTANTLY, though, Jeff, is that [this ancient spirituality] is the basis, thet actually earliest format for ALL religions. Even Christianity had its earlier Christian Mysticism phase where it would have been difficult to distinguish it from today’s New Age momement.

Today still, the concept of the Soul is well explored in Eastern based religons and philosphy. Like ALL true spiritual components, such things are provable by our equivalent of Scientific Method.

That leads us to science. Science ALWAYS follows spirituality, it is never the other way around. So stick around another 1,000 years or so and you will get your proof. Just as Einstein got everyone to agree Energy converts to matter, and vice versa … he gave compelling reason that all things are energy, and nothing is ever destroyed. That is pure spirituality, and certainly the law of Reincarnation. It is as well, validation for various and successive bodies; this physical one is not the only one, there is our Astral form such as the one Michael Jackson is now using. Also one pertaining to our ego. One associated to the region religions refer to as Heaven. And eventually, there IS a Soul.

NOW, PREPARED TO BE SHOCKED MY FRIEND. The Soul can be seen, by anyone, but with a limiting factor. I have been teaching this technique to people for years. There is rationale behind the concept, and it is both repeatable, and repeatable the same way for all people. Again, such is scientific method.

NOW, scientists are on public record as saying just recently we can throw out ALL science over than 50 years old. If you are yourself old enough, you will recall this is nothing new. SO, in 50 years or less from now you can assume NOTHING you seek as scientific will hold any weight, even in that community. YET, and this is the clincher, the ancient wisdom, the basis behind all religions, all spirituality HAS NOT EVER CHANGED. (Although the dogmatic religious attachment and re-presentation does, and rather often.)

It is thoroughly illogical that you could even be here, Jeff, if there were not the very deep and sophisiticated concepts, which are provable at stages and to varying levels of consciousness. This is a very difficult course of study, and it does take decades. It is not therefore, vary likely that you would ever undertake the very proof you require, but there are those out there that have. Those who actually seek, will find the answers.

>>>> This weekend, on Ian Punnett’s CTC radio show, he actually had a guy who “channeled” Michael Jackson , callers asked “Michael” questions, he answered, do people really believe this stuff.

You betch’a Jeff. It may come as a surprise to you, but Americans have made up an almost inconspicuous amount of life in this world. Throughout this vast realm, and for tens of thousands of years there would be varingly from 60 – 99% of the [people] who would think you must be looney to ask such an obvious question. “Of course an afterlife and communication with it is believed.” YOU are the limited, currently situated in America exception.

Other realms exist out of necessity. If they were not there, you would not be here. There is both a hierarchy of space, as with time. All things pertaining to this vaster existence is interconnected and functions by a rather logical and understandable inter-connection. To communicate with another consciousness is a matter of both sensitivity and proficiency, that’s all. Otherwise, it is rather latent in everyone. This is a natural protective mechnism because people like you COULD NOT HANDLE IT if you had to percieve and understand things that you couldn’t stand on, eat, or have sex with. This lower nature is what defines us as “Man.” Spiritually recognizes us as [potentially] much more than mere man, and acknowledges that we can experience these differences if we so develop our constitution for such work.

My thoughts exactly. This has nothing to do with their ability to collect, it has to do with a payday loan scam using the religion-induced fear intrinsic in the population to insure that risky loans are repaid, even though there is nothing they can do to the person if they fail to repay the loan.

It’s actually a very clever idea, if you have an uneducated population of nitwits. Given the high interest rates of the loans, they can afford a moderate number of counter-scammers (people like us) who don’t believe in souls, and will just rip them off of their money.

It’s “streams”! Streams!

[Sorry, just too timely to pass up...]

This weekend, on Ian Punnett’s CTC radio show, he actually had a guy who “channeled” Michael Jackson , callers asked “Michael” questions, he answered, do people really believe this stuff.

Just saying.

You have not already.

Maybe they’re really talking about your SOL, so if enough people sign over, they can collect our SUN? Boy, that would be a real bummer,,,and I expect the rest of the life on this planet would object to not having a say in that.

Gary 7

In that case, my soul is already gone, not sure I ever had one…

The loan is subject to one percent per day in interest until full repayment.
The period of full repayment is 90 days, and in case the borrower fails to return the money, the creditor gets full possession of his soul.
Wow. 1% per day, if compounded daily, yields 3,777% per annum. Even 90 days yields a 243% return if not paid until the 90th day.
I think I’d take my worst credit card’s “cash advance” rate and fees over that one.

The rates remind me of ‘payday check cashing’ services.

Second, um, how do they collect?

You see, these guys named Sam, Sox and Ben show up at your door……

(I liked that show, especially Ray Wise)

J/P=?

I told him I would and invited him to draw up a contract. It specified that he gets my soul in exchange for $100, collectible upon my death. [...] the contract does not allow for transferability of the right [...]

Does it specify what happens if he predeceases you? What happens when he dies? Is it his soul that possesses your soul? If not, how does it transfer to his afterlife?

I told him I would and invited him to draw up a contract. It specified that he gets my soul in exchange for $100, collectible upon my death.

It was witnessed by a number of Internet luminaries and I’m told the story still makes the rounds.

First off, I don’t believe that there is such a thing. Second, if there is, I question the ability for it to be possessed, much less collected. The contract doesn’t specify definitions for those terms. Finally, to hedge the bet, the contract does not allow for transferability of the right, so if there is an entity with the ability to collect and possess, they have no rights under the contract.

I spent the $100 on a sushi dinner the next night.