>>>> 34. Jeff Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
assuming there is a “soul” ; no scientific evidence for it ; probably just a fantasy like “ghosts” and all that jazz. >>>>

MOST CERTAINLY there is a “Soul,” Jeff. Most of all religions recognize such a “thing,” but religions are a rather new thing (under 5,000 years old) — Christianity itself being the actual “New Kid on Block” existing a mere 2,000 years.

Spiritual Philosphy by way of an Ancient Wisdom has reference to the Soul and this form of philosphy has roots back 40,000 years — far earlier than conventional recorded history. These can be readily validated in metal artifacts, art, and graphic depiction in carvings and architecture. MOST IMPORTANTLY, though, Jeff, is that [this ancient spirituality] is the basis, thet actually earliest format for ALL religions. Even Christianity had its earlier Christian Mysticism phase where it would have been difficult to distinguish it from today’s New Age momement.

Today still, the concept of the Soul is well explored in Eastern based religons and philosphy. Like ALL true spiritual components, such things are provable by our equivalent of Scientific Method.

That leads us to science. Science ALWAYS follows spirituality, it is never the other way around. So stick around another 1,000 years or so and you will get your proof. Just as Einstein got everyone to agree Energy converts to matter, and vice versa … he gave compelling reason that all things are energy, and nothing is ever destroyed. That is pure spirituality, and certainly the law of Reincarnation. It is as well, validation for various and successive bodies; this physical one is not the only one, there is our Astral form such as the one Michael Jackson is now using. Also one pertaining to our ego. One associated to the region religions refer to as Heaven. And eventually, there IS a Soul.

NOW, PREPARED TO BE SHOCKED MY FRIEND. The Soul can be seen, by anyone, but with a limiting factor. I have been teaching this technique to people for years. There is rationale behind the concept, and it is both repeatable, and repeatable the same way for all people. Again, such is scientific method.

NOW, scientists are on public record as saying just recently we can throw out ALL science over than 50 years old. If you are yourself old enough, you will recall this is nothing new. SO, in 50 years or less from now you can assume NOTHING you seek as scientific will hold any weight, even in that community. YET, and this is the clincher, the ancient wisdom, the basis behind all religions, all spirituality HAS NOT EVER CHANGED. (Although the dogmatic religious attachment and re-presentation does, and rather often.)

It is thoroughly illogical that you could even be here, Jeff, if there were not the very deep and sophisiticated concepts, which are provable at stages and to varying levels of consciousness. This is a very difficult course of study, and it does take decades. It is not therefore, vary likely that you would ever undertake the very proof you require, but there are those out there that have. Those who actually seek, will find the answers.

>>>> This weekend, on Ian Punnett’s CTC radio show, he actually had a guy who “channeled” Michael Jackson , callers asked “Michael” questions, he answered, do people really believe this stuff.

You betch’a Jeff. It may come as a surprise to you, but Americans have made up an almost inconspicuous amount of life in this world. Throughout this vast realm, and for tens of thousands of years there would be varingly from 60 – 99% of the [people] who would think you must be looney to ask such an obvious question. “Of course an afterlife and communication with it is believed.” YOU are the limited, currently situated in America exception.

Other realms exist out of necessity. If they were not there, you would not be here. There is both a hierarchy of space, as with time. All things pertaining to this vaster existence is interconnected and functions by a rather logical and understandable inter-connection. To communicate with another consciousness is a matter of both sensitivity and proficiency, that’s all. Otherwise, it is rather latent in everyone. This is a natural protective mechnism because people like you COULD NOT HANDLE IT if you had to percieve and understand things that you couldn’t stand on, eat, or have sex with. This lower nature is what defines us as “Man.” Spiritually recognizes us as [potentially] much more than mere man, and acknowledges that we can experience these differences if we so develop our constitution for such work.

My thoughts exactly. This has nothing to do with their ability to collect, it has to do with a payday loan scam using the religion-induced fear intrinsic in the population to insure that risky loans are repaid, even though there is nothing they can do to the person if they fail to repay the loan.

It’s actually a very clever idea, if you have an uneducated population of nitwits. Given the high interest rates of the loans, they can afford a moderate number of counter-scammers (people like us) who don’t believe in souls, and will just rip them off of their money.

It’s “streams”! Streams!

[Sorry, just too timely to pass up...]