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	<title>Comments on: Neil Tyson on our lack of skepticism</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Re: Surly Amy &#124; Opposition v. Oppression. &#171; STUFF AND ALSO THINGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Re: Surly Amy &#124; Opposition v. Oppression. &#171; STUFF AND ALSO THINGS</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] way into being way into geek chic but refuses to back it up with the intellectual diligence, scholarship, and (mostly) chilled attitude that makes nerds so appealing. She wants to benefit from the cute [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SpaceMika &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This really is just me trying to stay organized</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceMika &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This really is just me trying to stay organized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as I accidentally unearth boxes of floppies and old spiral-bound notebooks from my youth teehee An interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson particle plushies make me giggle and inspire me to knit up a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve in Dublin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Dublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caleb (#20): The problem was, “If you have a area 20 ft. by 20 ft. how much concrete do you need to fill the area?”

Sorry, but that question just doesn&#039;t make any sense. Concrete is a 3-dimensional problem, not 2-dimensional. The question should read something along the lines of:

“If you have an area 20 ft. by 20 ft. by 6 in. deep, how much concrete do you need to fill the area?” The answer is: 20 ft. x 20 ft. x .5 ft = 200 cubic ft.

Sorry to nitpick as I realise you were only trying to illustrate the point that the multiple choice answers were missing the necessary units of measure... but this *is* a science-oriented site ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caleb (#20): The problem was, “If you have a area 20 ft. by 20 ft. how much concrete do you need to fill the area?”</p>
<p>Sorry, but that question just doesn&#8217;t make any sense. Concrete is a 3-dimensional problem, not 2-dimensional. The question should read something along the lines of:</p>
<p>“If you have an area 20 ft. by 20 ft. by 6 in. deep, how much concrete do you need to fill the area?” The answer is: 20 ft. x 20 ft. x .5 ft = 200 cubic ft.</p>
<p>Sorry to nitpick as I realise you were only trying to illustrate the point that the multiple choice answers were missing the necessary units of measure&#8230; but this *is* a science-oriented site <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caleb ( #20 ): My physics teacher always insisted - and quite rightly - that numerical answers must always include the correct units. If you stated a number, without the units, he would say &quot;What - peanuts?&quot;, and if you did it in writing, he would write &quot;Peanuts?&quot; in your exercise book. It worked for me!

Here&#039;s a true anecdote, to illustrate the point about the difference between using reason and simply &quot;learning facts&quot;. 
Some years ago, I attended an open-air boxing event, which was held on a July evening in the grounds of Cardiff Castle. The Castle has two entrances, north and south, and each ticket said on it, &quot;Enter by North Gate&quot; or &quot;Enter by South Gate&quot;, depending on where your seat was.
I was waiting by the South Gate, for the gate to be opened - this was at 6 p.m. on a summer evening, with a cloudless sky - when two guys came along, looking at their tickets in puzzlement, and one wondered aloud, &quot;Is this the North or South Gate?&quot; Because there wasn&#039;t actually a sign by the gate, saying &quot;South Gate&quot;, they were unable to work it out...
I resisted the temptation to say anything to them, but I couldn&#039;t believe what I was hearing. These people were evidently incapable of applying a simple bit of logic, i.e. &quot;It&#039;s 6 p.m., and there&#039;s the Sun - so that way is west. So if I stand with the Sun to my left, then in front of me is north.&quot;
DUHHH!!!!!!!!
Now I find it extremely hard to believe, that anyone could possibly not KNOW that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west - but I guess people must simply regard that as a &quot;fact&quot;, which they learned at school, and then never gave it another thought. It clearly doesn&#039;t occur to them that such a &quot;fact&quot; can actually be put to a practical use in their lives, such as for finding directions! Some people are just totally ignorant of the entire concepts of logic and reasoning, i.e. of using known facts to deduce unknown ones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb ( #20 ): My physics teacher always insisted &#8211; and quite rightly &#8211; that numerical answers must always include the correct units. If you stated a number, without the units, he would say &#8220;What &#8211; peanuts?&#8221;, and if you did it in writing, he would write &#8220;Peanuts?&#8221; in your exercise book. It worked for me!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a true anecdote, to illustrate the point about the difference between using reason and simply &#8220;learning facts&#8221;.<br />
Some years ago, I attended an open-air boxing event, which was held on a July evening in the grounds of Cardiff Castle. The Castle has two entrances, north and south, and each ticket said on it, &#8220;Enter by North Gate&#8221; or &#8220;Enter by South Gate&#8221;, depending on where your seat was.<br />
I was waiting by the South Gate, for the gate to be opened &#8211; this was at 6 p.m. on a summer evening, with a cloudless sky &#8211; when two guys came along, looking at their tickets in puzzlement, and one wondered aloud, &#8220;Is this the North or South Gate?&#8221; Because there wasn&#8217;t actually a sign by the gate, saying &#8220;South Gate&#8221;, they were unable to work it out&#8230;<br />
I resisted the temptation to say anything to them, but I couldn&#8217;t believe what I was hearing. These people were evidently incapable of applying a simple bit of logic, i.e. &#8220;It&#8217;s 6 p.m., and there&#8217;s the Sun &#8211; so that way is west. So if I stand with the Sun to my left, then in front of me is north.&#8221;<br />
DUHHH!!!!!!!!<br />
Now I find it extremely hard to believe, that anyone could possibly not KNOW that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west &#8211; but I guess people must simply regard that as a &#8220;fact&#8221;, which they learned at school, and then never gave it another thought. It clearly doesn&#8217;t occur to them that such a &#8220;fact&#8221; can actually be put to a practical use in their lives, such as for finding directions! Some people are just totally ignorant of the entire concepts of logic and reasoning, i.e. of using known facts to deduce unknown ones!</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil: &quot;Being skeptical, asking for evidence, examining that evidence, and diagnosing it compared to the whole of learning that goes on around it is the way to go.&quot;

That is not science, at least not to me.  That is the process of evaluating information critically.  Because if that process, in and of itself, makes something science, I&#039;d like to know why I have a B.A. in history instead of a B.S. despite the evaluation of evidence and claims being at the core of history.

For me, science is about describing the universe and predicting things based on that description.  Evaluating information isn&#039;t how you make those descriptions, it&#039;s how you weed out the ones that don&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil: &#8220;Being skeptical, asking for evidence, examining that evidence, and diagnosing it compared to the whole of learning that goes on around it is the way to go.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is not science, at least not to me.  That is the process of evaluating information critically.  Because if that process, in and of itself, makes something science, I&#8217;d like to know why I have a B.A. in history instead of a B.S. despite the evaluation of evidence and claims being at the core of history.</p>
<p>For me, science is about describing the universe and predicting things based on that description.  Evaluating information isn&#8217;t how you make those descriptions, it&#8217;s how you weed out the ones that don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree somewhat - It&#039;s not that science is taught as a bunch of facts, necessarily.  Almost inevitably, it&#039;s learned that way.  That&#039;s easier than learning a &#039;process&#039;, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree somewhat &#8211; It&#8217;s not that science is taught as a bunch of facts, necessarily.  Almost inevitably, it&#8217;s learned that way.  That&#8217;s easier than learning a &#8216;process&#8217;, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: cope</title>
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		<dc:creator>cope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let me put in a plug for myself and several of my fellow high-school science teachers who DO teach that science is an action word, who DO try to teach critical thinking.  Hell, I don&#039;t even teach the standard 6 (5?7?) steps of the &quot;scientific method&quot;, I approach what scientists do from the perspective of science process skills.  I introduce the idea of science process skills the first week of the year (on the same day I hold up the textbook and say &quot;This is not science&quot;).  I then weave the science process skills in the whole year&#039;s curriculum.  

I got the best compliment ever this year from a student I had taught the previous year in one of my earth/space science classes.   She was taking chemistry from one of our notoriously demanding (in a good way) chemistry teachers and she thanked me for helping her do well in chemistry.  I said something to the effect that, well, I don&#039;t teach much chemistry in my class and she said, &quot;No, but you taught me how to think&quot;.  As I said, best compliment EVER.

Are there weak science teachers?  Is there too much &quot;teaching to the standardized test&quot; going on?  Obviously, but please don&#039;t paint with quite such a broad brush.

PS to coolstar:  To me, Tyson&#039;s value is as a promoter and evangelist for science.  Re-read post #1 to see an example of the lack of correlation between being a world-class scientist and being able to  effectively communicate with the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me put in a plug for myself and several of my fellow high-school science teachers who DO teach that science is an action word, who DO try to teach critical thinking.  Hell, I don&#8217;t even teach the standard 6 (5?7?) steps of the &#8220;scientific method&#8221;, I approach what scientists do from the perspective of science process skills.  I introduce the idea of science process skills the first week of the year (on the same day I hold up the textbook and say &#8220;This is not science&#8221;).  I then weave the science process skills in the whole year&#8217;s curriculum.  </p>
<p>I got the best compliment ever this year from a student I had taught the previous year in one of my earth/space science classes.   She was taking chemistry from one of our notoriously demanding (in a good way) chemistry teachers and she thanked me for helping her do well in chemistry.  I said something to the effect that, well, I don&#8217;t teach much chemistry in my class and she said, &#8220;No, but you taught me how to think&#8221;.  As I said, best compliment EVER.</p>
<p>Are there weak science teachers?  Is there too much &#8220;teaching to the standardized test&#8221; going on?  Obviously, but please don&#8217;t paint with quite such a broad brush.</p>
<p>PS to coolstar:  To me, Tyson&#8217;s value is as a promoter and evangelist for science.  Re-read post #1 to see an example of the lack of correlation between being a world-class scientist and being able to  effectively communicate with the public.</p>
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		<title>By: coolstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>coolstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s weak of me, I know (and I stole the gist of this from Chris W. commenting on the Not Even Wrong blog) but I still can&#039;t resist:

    Neil Tyson is to Astronomy what Kenny G is to Jazz.

And before all you fanboys get your knickers in a twist, yeah, Tyson does do some good (hell, some people LIKE Kenny G) but 
a) he really isn&#039;t a very good astronomer (do a NASA ADS search and drop the book reviews, for a somewhat simplistic first cut) and b) I hate the self-aggrandizement.

Let the stoning begin....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s weak of me, I know (and I stole the gist of this from Chris W. commenting on the Not Even Wrong blog) but I still can&#8217;t resist:</p>
<p>    Neil Tyson is to Astronomy what Kenny G is to Jazz.</p>
<p>And before all you fanboys get your knickers in a twist, yeah, Tyson does do some good (hell, some people LIKE Kenny G) but<br />
a) he really isn&#8217;t a very good astronomer (do a NASA ADS search and drop the book reviews, for a somewhat simplistic first cut) and b) I hate the self-aggrandizement.</p>
<p>Let the stoning begin&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to see a good grounding in macroeconomics and economic history as well. If the voters were well informed there, pretty much all the fools currently in office would never have been elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to see a good grounding in macroeconomics and economic history as well. If the voters were well informed there, pretty much all the fools currently in office would never have been elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Blizno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blizno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to watch the video but I got commercials and commercials and commercials.  I finally quit out of disgust.  I am not a consuming beast of burden; I am a human being.
I forbid the world to force advertisements relentlessly down my throat.

If I want to buy, I will.  If I do not want to buy, leave me alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to watch the video but I got commercials and commercials and commercials.  I finally quit out of disgust.  I am not a consuming beast of burden; I am a human being.<br />
I forbid the world to force advertisements relentlessly down my throat.</p>
<p>If I want to buy, I will.  If I do not want to buy, leave me alone!</p>
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		<title>By: sduford</title>
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		<dc:creator>sduford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good video</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Nettles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Nettles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, even Tyson doesn&#039;t have a clean act. I went to the Planetarium  that he&#039;s in charge of in NYC last summer and saw the &quot;Collisions&quot; movie (I was extremely disappointed that I didn&#039;t get to see a real planetarium show with projector and all). As asteroids and planets and comets and other space stuff zoomed around there were whishes, swooshes, and even booms when collisions happened. So much for good science!

Yeah, I understand that it would have been hard to keep children focused on the sights without the sounds, but it&#039;s that type of entertainment-quotient that leads to watering down right science.  In cartoons (and even advertisements), I can understand it, but at Neil Tyson&#039;s planetarium? Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, even Tyson doesn&#8217;t have a clean act. I went to the Planetarium  that he&#8217;s in charge of in NYC last summer and saw the &#8220;Collisions&#8221; movie (I was extremely disappointed that I didn&#8217;t get to see a real planetarium show with projector and all). As asteroids and planets and comets and other space stuff zoomed around there were whishes, swooshes, and even booms when collisions happened. So much for good science!</p>
<p>Yeah, I understand that it would have been hard to keep children focused on the sights without the sounds, but it&#8217;s that type of entertainment-quotient that leads to watering down right science.  In cartoons (and even advertisements), I can understand it, but at Neil Tyson&#8217;s planetarium? Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok... I guess this is semi-related. Did anyone see the Jimmy Fallon episode where he had The Amazing Kreskin (I think that was his name?) do some &quot;light as a feather, stiff as a board&quot; type thing?

I tried looking up information about how and why that &quot;worked,&quot; especially because of the performer&#039;s story about how he wasn&#039;t allowed to perform that on Johnny Carson&#039;s show.  I know this is a little off topic, but I also know there has to be some explanation out there about why he could stand on Fallon who was lying on two chairs (head/shoulders on one, feet on the other) that has more to do with physics than the &quot;woo&quot; I found on the web.  Obviously my search skills weren&#039;t up to the task.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230; I guess this is semi-related. Did anyone see the Jimmy Fallon episode where he had The Amazing Kreskin (I think that was his name?) do some &#8220;light as a feather, stiff as a board&#8221; type thing?</p>
<p>I tried looking up information about how and why that &#8220;worked,&#8221; especially because of the performer&#8217;s story about how he wasn&#8217;t allowed to perform that on Johnny Carson&#8217;s show.  I know this is a little off topic, but I also know there has to be some explanation out there about why he could stand on Fallon who was lying on two chairs (head/shoulders on one, feet on the other) that has more to do with physics than the &#8220;woo&#8221; I found on the web.  Obviously my search skills weren&#8217;t up to the task.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Being skeptical, asking for evidence, examining that evidence, and diagnosing it compared to the whole of learning that goes on around it is the way to go. That’s how you distinguish sense from nonsense.&lt;/i&gt;

Brilliant Phil! You made my day here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Being skeptical, asking for evidence, examining that evidence, and diagnosing it compared to the whole of learning that goes on around it is the way to go. That’s how you distinguish sense from nonsense.</i></p>
<p>Brilliant Phil! You made my day here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the guy who hates Pluto?</description>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195975</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;test 5&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ZOMG ! Science is AUTISM !!!</description>
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<p>ZOMG ! Science is AUTISM !!!</p>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195973</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;test 4.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Science is autism !!!</description>
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<p>Science is autism !!!</p>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195972</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test 3 ! Science is autism !!!</description>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195971</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test 2.
Science is autism !</description>
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Science is autism !</p>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195970</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. testing what upsets the automatic censor.
test 1.
Science is autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. testing what upsets the automatic censor.<br />
test 1.<br />
Science is autism.</p>
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		<title>By: T_U_T</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195969</link>
		<dc:creator>T_U_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test whether I am banned. Banning me for obvious satire is cruel and unjust.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Rowed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195946</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rowed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massimo Pigliucci has a good paper on this at the McGill Journal of Education site:
http://mje.mcgill.ca/article/view/2224/1694</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massimo Pigliucci has a good paper on this at the McGill Journal of Education site:<br />
<a href="http://mje.mcgill.ca/article/view/2224/1694" rel="nofollow">http://mje.mcgill.ca/article/view/2224/1694</a></p>
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		<title>By: IMForeman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/30/neil-tyson-on-our-lack-of-skepticism/comment-page-1/#comment-195943</link>
		<dc:creator>IMForeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You misspelled Science in the second quote, Phil.</description>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I would have to disagree.  The classes DO exist.  They are just unfortunately not available to everyone.  There is a huge gap in public education.  You are either labeled &quot;smart&quot; or &quot;average&quot; at a very early age and that decides your track throughout your education, at least that&#039;s how it works where I&#039;m from.

I guess I was lucky and was a &quot;smart&quot; kid.  I was in IB in high school and critical thinking was the basis of my education, whether in science or history.  However, I was not innately smarter than anyone else.  I went to a Montessori preschool and had an educational experience and baseline knowledge others didn&#039;t when I started Kindergarten at public school.  I also had parents that greatly valued education.  That was the only difference.  It&#039;s the idea of Outliers in perfect form.

The point is, the classes are available, but the students who could benefit from them the most are never exposed to them.  That&#039;s the failing.  It&#039;s almost worse than them not being available at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I would have to disagree.  The classes DO exist.  They are just unfortunately not available to everyone.  There is a huge gap in public education.  You are either labeled &#8220;smart&#8221; or &#8220;average&#8221; at a very early age and that decides your track throughout your education, at least that&#8217;s how it works where I&#8217;m from.</p>
<p>I guess I was lucky and was a &#8220;smart&#8221; kid.  I was in IB in high school and critical thinking was the basis of my education, whether in science or history.  However, I was not innately smarter than anyone else.  I went to a Montessori preschool and had an educational experience and baseline knowledge others didn&#8217;t when I started Kindergarten at public school.  I also had parents that greatly valued education.  That was the only difference.  It&#8217;s the idea of Outliers in perfect form.</p>
<p>The point is, the classes are available, but the students who could benefit from them the most are never exposed to them.  That&#8217;s the failing.  It&#8217;s almost worse than them not being available at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish my high school classes could have been better too. The physics teacher was good, but the biology and chem teachers were just regurgitating stuff. The math teachers were strictly line by line textbook teachers, and the textbooks didn&#039;t teach, they just spit numbers at you.
I&#039;m going to university this year, at 36, and I&#039;m doing some home-study in prep for my math course, and it&#039;s amazing what a good textbook can do. And when it comes to remembering formulas, it&#039;s as simple as going on youtube and looking for a mnemonic to work with.
My boring math teacher would never have taught the class to sing the quadratic formula to the tune of &quot;Pop Goes the Weasel&quot;.
We need texts that teach, teachers that bring the subject to life, and schools that don&#039;t choose a curriculum by letting a school board decide what goes in the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish my high school classes could have been better too. The physics teacher was good, but the biology and chem teachers were just regurgitating stuff. The math teachers were strictly line by line textbook teachers, and the textbooks didn&#8217;t teach, they just spit numbers at you.<br />
I&#8217;m going to university this year, at 36, and I&#8217;m doing some home-study in prep for my math course, and it&#8217;s amazing what a good textbook can do. And when it comes to remembering formulas, it&#8217;s as simple as going on youtube and looking for a mnemonic to work with.<br />
My boring math teacher would never have taught the class to sing the quadratic formula to the tune of &#8220;Pop Goes the Weasel&#8221;.<br />
We need texts that teach, teachers that bring the subject to life, and schools that don&#8217;t choose a curriculum by letting a school board decide what goes in the books.</p>
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