Comments on: Arizona is 6000 years old?

By: Education Votes

Education Votes — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:34:52 +0000

[...] high school principals? Done. Want another legislator saying the earth is only 6,000 years old? Arizona wins again. Want a birther bill passed through the legislature? All you had to do was [...]

By: Autymn D. C.

Autymn D. C. — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:54:42 +0000

Nigel, the spelling isn’t wrong; it’s Hellènic. And my spelling of -se has now wended to -ty.

A word has one original meaning; a “current meaning” is irrelevant. And I didn’t say anything about absolute proof; that is your strawman. This statement still stands: All theories are proven already.

By: luther blissett

luther blissett — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:06:53 +0000

Don’t harsh on James Ussher: he was working with the best material at his disposal in 1650 — texts — in the absence of any established observational methods to date the earth. And he didn’t limit himself to the bible, either: he was looking for cross-references in whatever sources he could find.

Funny thing is, a lot of the first geologists and paleontologists were clergy, because they had the spare time to dig for rocks and fossils, and a genuine curiosity about God’s creation. A pity that today’s fundies don’t share it.

By: Joel

Joel — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:23:36 +0000

Playing God’s advocate for a second-

If the earth were created, there would be trees standing tall. If you checked their rings they would appear to be hundreds of years old, even though realistically they were just seconds old. The point is the earth would have been created with the appearance of age. Uranium would have the effect of billion year old decay even if it were brand new.

By: Mike56

Mike56 — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:54:23 +0000

What about our Tyrannosaurus Rex problem? Nobody’s addressing that, no sir. Ms Allen wastes our time with nonsense about uranium, while we apparently have really nasty dinosaurs currently roaming Phoenix, eating poor, innocent white kittens and abandoned immigrant babies. By the way, the earth is only 5,871 years old. This nutty woman should get her facts straight if she’s going to be a leader in this great state.

By: Troy

Troy — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 04:12:37 +0000

Just wanted to quickly note that the majority of Arizona is politically controlled by Latter-Day Saints, e.g. Mormons. Evidence means nothing to them, or the mostly faith based non-Mormon remainder of the populous. Words in a book written by people 1900+ years ago however… Those hold REAL weight in their perspective and thought process.

By: Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen: Petty Tactics, Petty Cash and Petty Candidate | Sonoran Weekly Review

Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:01:12 +0000

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By: Basta

Basta — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:29:03 +0000

@359
So we should deliberately discriminate against people who hold certain beliefs–and how many people are theists, anyway…80% of the country? More? The only reason I’m so reluctant to call myself an atheist is its connotation with anti-theists like you. You don’t have to hate those who disagree with you.

That said, this 6000 years thing is unfortunate. Creationism is extremely unfortunate. Take the Bible literally and the message is null. I wish these beliefs weren’t so entrenched in the Republican party. They discredit the parts of it that make sense. And don’t say there aren’t any, because I don’t say that about you.

By: Troller Jones

Troller Jones — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:28:37 +0000

This is a good reason why creationists (at least ones like her) should not be aloud in our government. Pretty harsh, I know, but creationists do nothing good for our country’s benefit that the atheists or agnostics of our country can’t do better. As an Anti-Theist, I believe religion is harmful to our society and the world. Too bad I wont see the end of it in my lifetime.

By: Allana

Allana — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:03:57 +0000

Common sense tells me she was using that 6000 number as a figure of speach.
You can tell in her hand gestures and the statement as a “whole”.
We spend WAY TOO much time disecting and distorting.
If one is going to have the brainpower to disect like that…..
help her and the others out with their iranium dilemma.

By: Jesus Freak

Jesus Freak — Fri, 28 May 2010 01:32:37 +0000

Do you know why it is widely accepted in the scientific community that the world is 4.6 billion years old? Because if you say differently the media and your college’s will shred you to pieces if you say differently. The movie “Expelled no intelligence allowed” with Ben Stine dose a good job of showing this. As for Uranium dating, half lives only work when we know that a half life is always the same. Seance the need for Uranium has only been sense the A-Bomb in 1945 i don’t think that we can honestly assume that it is the same for “billion of years” with 70years we’ve spent studding it =P So think, if there is a One in a Million chance that there is a God and souls can be saved by putting your faith in the Lord and Jesus Christ isn’t that something to at least look into? Please do both sides of the research before you bash one side of it, and i thank you all for reading this post. God bless every one of you.

Something to look at,
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c012.html

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 17 May 2010 19:32:54 +0000

Well of course it’s true that the earth has been here for 6000 years! She just forgot to mention the 3.2 billion years before the last 6000 years, so…….

By: flip

flip — Tue, 11 May 2010 23:46:40 +0000

“What she was saying was the earth, with human habitation, is approximately 6000 years old”

Even if that’s what she meant, it’s still provably wrong. There are groups of people, such as the Indigenous Australians, who been around for 40 000 years. The earth, therefore, with human habitation (whatever that means) is much much older than either she or you acknowledge.

By: tqnorris

tqnorris — Tue, 11 May 2010 14:36:17 +0000

Her statements were taken out of context. What she was saying was the earth, with human habitation, is approximately 6000 years old. This is a perfect example of the leftist strategy to destroy people that they fear. First, accuse the person of being stupid; if that doesn’t work; accuse them of being crazy. However, this strategy didn’t work against Reagan; it isn’t working against Palin, and it won’t work here. The conservative revolution has begun. Either support it, for the good of the country, or stay out of the way.

By: Pascal

Pascal — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:11:52 +0000

Jaella, what makes you think that Darwin didn’t completely believe in his theory?
It must probably because of this excerpt of one of his letters creationists frequently quote:
“Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy”
In fact the creationists are very dishonest when they quote this excerpt, because they omit to fully quote him, which would discredit them.
In the following of the same letter, Darwin reasserts he knows he was right in spite of all the hateful bigots.

By: Pascal

Pascal — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:03:56 +0000

This woman is really stupid.
I wonder how she could get to be a senator.
She found enough stupid electors to elect her.

By: Arizona state senator argues for uranium mining by claiming the Earth is ‘6,000 years’ old. | No Bull. news service.

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:29:40 +0000

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Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:09:56 +0000

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By: Nigel Depledge

Nigel Depledge — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:10:20 +0000

OK, just for the hello vit... Jaella (345) said:

I am a firm creationist. Some of you may not agree, but just because you don’t believe the fact that the earth is six thousand years old doesn’t change the fact that it’s true.

Actually, it can't be true. Every measure we have of the age of pieces of the Earth proves that it is many orders of magnitude older. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false. And I don't need to "believe" the age of the Earth, because we have measured it.

(Same with the bible! Just cause you don’t believe in hell doesn’t mean God-and by ‘God’ I mean Jehova God, Adonai, Father God, Jesus Christ, Holy spirit- won’t send you there if you don’t believe in Christ!)

And where does it say that the Bible is the word of god? In the bible. Right. I beseech you to pull the other one, for it doth have bells attached.

Check out Kent Hovand’s web site.

Kent Hovind is a proven liar. If he cares not for the 9th commandment, why should we care what he says?

You all are freaking out about conservatives not having open minds. Don’t be hypocrites! Look at his web site.

Well, quite. How about you open your mind and go and look at the science, not some liar's strawman representation of it?

There are piles of evidence that the seven day creation theory is true.

This is a lie.

Piles of evidence that Noah’s flood actually happened.

There has never been a global flood. And there is no evidence for any global flood.

(By the way, not even Darwin believed completely in his theory)

That's another lie, I'm afraid. He was sufficiently convinced that he had hit upon the correct means by which nature generates diversity.

By: Nigel Depledge

Nigel Depledge — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:01:40 +0000

Indygirl (341) said:

What is so hard to understand that the Creator finds nothing to be hard? The unsaved man cannot understand that God could create uranium and its very nature is to be “old” and God created the Earth and He can create something at any stage. This sentence isn’t coming out quite right, but you get the general idea. What is too hard for God? Nothing. Just because you can’t wrap your mind around it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

I have no problem in “wrapping my head around” this concept, any more than the concept of a singular creation 6000 years ago.

There are only two issues I have with this extremely simple concept:
(1) Ah, I see you believe in the Great Deceiver, yes? (IOW, what possible reason could god have for deceiving us all, and how could we ever detect such a reason?)
(2) No, actually, the entire universe was created last Thursday, but with the appearance of great antiquity (including all memories you may have of events that you perceive to have happened prior to last Thursday).

The concept of a recent creation with the appearance of great age is not hard, it is logically untenable.

By: Slam666

Slam666 — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:58:12 +0000

The sooner we wipe ourselves out the better i think. To quote a famous comedian, “The people that are anti abortion are the best arguments for it!”
Oh, and hail Satan while i’m here.

By: Esther

Esther — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:14:51 +0000

Jaella’s right, as many others who might know the Truth.
I’m suprised!
The DISCRIMINATION and HATRED!!! You are so foolishly willingly ignorant!
Why do you hate God so much? You think Hell will be a party?! Believe and trust in the Lord Jesus christ! In His righteousness you shall be saved and born again!
I’m just, astonished, of the hatred and ignorance, you’re (as in the lost peoples) just like the billions of religious peoples of the horrid earth! You need so much faith to believe in the foolish religion you believe in, religion is the worst thing to happen to earth, causing billions to go to Hell! You ignorant religious peoples, you ‘hate’ religion, when you are religious your self! Usually its, evolutionist, athiest, skeptic, new ager, and some other religion, what is that, 4 religions?! You poor sheeple!
God is pure, He is the only way, not man, not religion!
Kent Hovind is one of those blessed true “Christians” (Christian is the label the Romans gave to the people who were Christ-like, or who followed God, Jesus is God) and so is many other true God fearing, Bible believing, sin hating, truth loving Christians! So is David Stewart.
Go find Jesus, you hypocrites, go study your selves! Do REAL research on “both” sides (the truth is stranger than fiction to you newbies)!
Go to http://www.jesus-is-savior.com
http://www.drdino.com/

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SAVED?

Is there a time and place in your life, when you trusted in the blood of Jesus Christ? Not joined a church, not kept the sacraments, not baptism, not good works — but simply, by faith, prayed and asked Jesus Christ to save you?

To die without Jesus Christ will be the worst thing you could ever do…

“And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.” Revelation 20:15

——————————————————————————–

YOU CAN BE SAVED THIS VERY MINUTE!

It’s simple to be saved…

Know you’re a sinner.

“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:10

“… for there is no difference. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23

Believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins.
“Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, …” 1 Peter 2:24

“… Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5

And the best way you know how, simply trust Him, and Him alone as your personal Savior.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?

Pray this prayer, and mean it with all your heart.

Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I thank you for dying for me at Calvary. I come to you now, Lord the the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ Name, Amen.

The Lord is true, the earth is young, ‘dinosaurs’ (or mostly extinct lizards, birds, and other such things) did walk with man, people were stronger and more intellegent in the past, you, and I on the other hand, are the copy of a copy of a copy…..the last of the generations!

YOU MEN ARE SO IGNORANT, YOU WONT EVEN LOOK AT THE ‘OTHER’ SIDE OF YOUR “TRUTH”, YOU’RE LIKE CHILDREN!!! “LALALA I’M NOT LISTENING! LALALA!!”

….Revelation 21:8, “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

By: Jaella

Jaella — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:57:10 +0000

I am a firm creationist. Some of you may not agree, but just because you don’t believe the fact that the earth is six thousand years old doesn’t change the fact that it’s true. (Same with the bible! Just cause you don’t believe in hell doesn’t mean God-and by ‘God’ I mean Jehova God, Adonai, Father God, Jesus Christ, Holy spirit- won’t send you there if you don’t believe in Christ!)
Check out Kent Hovand’s web site.
You all are freaking out about conservatives not having open minds. Don’t be hypocrites! Look at his web site.
There are piles of evidence that the seven day creation theory is true. Piles of evidence that Noah’s flood actually happened.
(By the way, not even Darwin believed completely in his theory)

By: Ersatz

Ersatz — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:57:00 +0000

Move Forward! Into the future!

I AM FOR THIS.

By: JCisTheSaviorOfSouls

JCisTheSaviorOfSouls — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:50:17 +0000

The earth is only 6000 thousand years old though. Am I missing something?