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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Clayworth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/launch-pad-countdown/comment-page-1/#comment-200944</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Clayworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I had the great good fortune to share (along with 1500 others) the 2006 solar eclipse in Libya with Joe and his lovely wife Gay.  Joe is one of my favorite writers, and just an all-around great guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I had the great good fortune to share (along with 1500 others) the 2006 solar eclipse in Libya with Joe and his lovely wife Gay.  Joe is one of my favorite writers, and just an all-around great guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/launch-pad-countdown/comment-page-1/#comment-200933</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on, I&#039;m paying for fiction writers to learn astronomy and physics? Assuming they went to public schools I already paid for them to (not) learn it, and now I have to pay to give them a second try.

I fail to see how it&#039;s a &quot;fantastic idea&quot; to subsidize the earning potential of entertainers with public money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on, I&#8217;m paying for fiction writers to learn astronomy and physics? Assuming they went to public schools I already paid for them to (not) learn it, and now I have to pay to give them a second try.</p>
<p>I fail to see how it&#8217;s a &#8220;fantastic idea&#8221; to subsidize the earning potential of entertainers with public money.</p>
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		<title>By: jdac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/launch-pad-countdown/comment-page-1/#comment-200659</link>
		<dc:creator>jdac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I totally did not get that The Forever War was satire. I&#039;ll have to reread it (not that it would be much of a chore).

While people are swapping great SF around, I&#039;d definitely have to mention Alfred E. Bester&#039;s &quot;The Stars My Destination&quot; (published in the UK as &quot;Tiger! Tiger!&quot;).  A fantastically visceral novella.  It is brimming with fantastic elements; several times I thought I had a handle on the setting, only to have Bester metaphorically slap me in the face for my provincial imagination.  And yet, nothing in it seems extraneous or wasted; each scene adds to Bester&#039;s picture of the Freak Century of the Jaunting Age. Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I totally did not get that The Forever War was satire. I&#8217;ll have to reread it (not that it would be much of a chore).</p>
<p>While people are swapping great SF around, I&#8217;d definitely have to mention Alfred E. Bester&#8217;s &#8220;The Stars My Destination&#8221; (published in the UK as &#8220;Tiger! Tiger!&#8221;).  A fantastically visceral novella.  It is brimming with fantastic elements; several times I thought I had a handle on the setting, only to have Bester metaphorically slap me in the face for my provincial imagination.  And yet, nothing in it seems extraneous or wasted; each scene adds to Bester&#8217;s picture of the Freak Century of the Jaunting Age. Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Whats Hot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why oh Wyoming</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/launch-pad-countdown/comment-page-1/#comment-200471</link>
		<dc:creator>Whats Hot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why oh Wyoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here for Launch Pad, which I wrote about earlier. I already had lunch with Gay and Joe Haldeman, Scott Sigler, and other people who have up until [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/launch-pad-countdown/comment-page-1/#comment-200185</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In fact, has any P.K.Dick story made it to the silver screen unchanged?&quot;

I might be mistaken, but I think A Scanner Darkly was rather faithful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, has any P.K.Dick story made it to the silver screen unchanged?&#8221;</p>
<p>I might be mistaken, but I think A Scanner Darkly was rather faithful.</p>
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		<title>By: Why oh Wyoming &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why oh Wyoming &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here for Launch Pad, which I wrote about earlier. I already had lunch with Gay and Joe Haldeman, Scott Sigler, and other people who have up until [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;i&gt;&#039;Forever War&#039;&lt;/i&gt; is awesome novel -one of my all-time faves. 8) 

@ 1.   Buffalodavid : 

&lt;i&gt;With Asimov, Clark and Heinlein gone, I tend to think of Joe as the current “Grand Old Man” of Science Fiction. Phil, please shake his hand for me. Thanks. &lt;/i&gt; 

... &amp; shake his hand again for me too! ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <i>&#8216;Forever War&#8217;</i> is awesome novel -one of my all-time faves. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ 1.   Buffalodavid : </p>
<p><i>With Asimov, Clark and Heinlein gone, I tend to think of Joe as the current “Grand Old Man” of Science Fiction. Phil, please shake his hand for me. Thanks. </i> </p>
<p>&#8230; &#038; shake his hand again for me too! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hhEb09'1</title>
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		<dc:creator>hhEb09'1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the Buckhorn has been safe for thirty years since I left, though it probably still has the bullet holes. Go see</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the Buckhorn has been safe for thirty years since I left, though it probably still has the bullet holes. Go see</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nomen Publicus

&quot;Second Variety&quot;, filmed as &quot;Screamers&quot; is a pretty good adaptation. The location is changed, mainly because we wouldn&#039;t accept a USA/Russian battle, but the essential essence of the story remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nomen Publicus</p>
<p>&#8220;Second Variety&#8221;, filmed as &#8220;Screamers&#8221; is a pretty good adaptation. The location is changed, mainly because we wouldn&#8217;t accept a USA/Russian battle, but the essential essence of the story remains.</p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I met Joe Haldeman at WorldCon a few years ago. He sat in the back of one of my science talks... met him in the hallway afterwards and was beside myself with respect for his work.  Talked to him like a fangrrrrl...  ;)

I think Phil can survive the Buckhorn... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I met Joe Haldeman at WorldCon a few years ago. He sat in the back of one of my science talks&#8230; met him in the hallway afterwards and was beside myself with respect for his work.  Talked to him like a fangrrrrl&#8230;  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think Phil can survive the Buckhorn&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stone Age Scientist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stone Age Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s like SEE, but in literature. And since some films are adapted from books anyway, I think the movie industry has their work uncut out for them.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s like SEE, but in literature. And since some films are adapted from books anyway, I think the movie industry has their work uncut out for them.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PRGormley</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRGormley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider Forever War to be the most influential book I ever read and envy you going to Laramie (for that reason, I can&#039;t think of any other reason to head that way); having several copies in a variety of versions has given _hundreds_ of good reads over the years. I agree about the issues raised above - while Forever War would make a great flick, I ahve no faith that it would transition any better than any of Philip K Dick&#039;s works (although those were great, they&#039;re different stories using the same characters).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider Forever War to be the most influential book I ever read and envy you going to Laramie (for that reason, I can&#8217;t think of any other reason to head that way); having several copies in a variety of versions has given _hundreds_ of good reads over the years. I agree about the issues raised above &#8211; while Forever War would make a great flick, I ahve no faith that it would transition any better than any of Philip K Dick&#8217;s works (although those were great, they&#8217;re different stories using the same characters).</p>
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		<title>By: t-storm</title>
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		<dc:creator>t-storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good now people will understand mitichlorians</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good now people will understand mitichlorians</p>
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		<title>By: John Rinehart</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rinehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney: Books a Go Go closed down several years ago; it was closed last time I visited. And shame on you for recommending the Buckhorn! We want Phil to come back unscathed, after all :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney: Books a Go Go closed down several years ago; it was closed last time I visited. And shame on you for recommending the Buckhorn! We want Phil to come back unscathed, after all <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish they had more wimmens involved as instructors.  There are lots of female sf writers who could make great contributions as instructors.  Heck I wish *I* could have attended!  Looks like lots of fun.  Give &#039;em heck, BA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they had more wimmens involved as instructors.  There are lots of female sf writers who could make great contributions as instructors.  Heck I wish *I* could have attended!  Looks like lots of fun.  Give &#8216;em heck, BA!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re heading up to my old stomping grounds!  Go get some coffee at Coal Creek Coffee and have a dinner at Jeffery&#039;s Bistro, and have a beer at the Buckhorn, of course ;-)

I don&#039;t think the bookstore I kept in business while I was in college, &quot;Books a Go Go,&quot; is still open.  I bought probably at least one Joe Haldeman book there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re heading up to my old stomping grounds!  Go get some coffee at Coal Creek Coffee and have a dinner at Jeffery&#8217;s Bistro, and have a beer at the Buckhorn, of course <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the bookstore I kept in business while I was in college, &#8220;Books a Go Go,&#8221; is still open.  I bought probably at least one Joe Haldeman book there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Publicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomen Publicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I would like to see The Forever War as a movie, Hollywood has a history of optioning SiFi books and never making the film, or just making something else using the title.  What has happened to the Ringworld movie?  Look what happened to I, Robot!! Blade Runner is a good movie, but is is NOT Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep! In fact, has any P.K.Dick story made it to the silver screen unchanged?

Obligatory Stupid Russian Joke...

Why do Russian police travel in threes?

One can read, one can write and the third keeps an eye on the two intellectuals !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would like to see The Forever War as a movie, Hollywood has a history of optioning SiFi books and never making the film, or just making something else using the title.  What has happened to the Ringworld movie?  Look what happened to I, Robot!! Blade Runner is a good movie, but is is NOT Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep! In fact, has any P.K.Dick story made it to the silver screen unchanged?</p>
<p>Obligatory Stupid Russian Joke&#8230;</p>
<p>Why do Russian police travel in threes?</p>
<p>One can read, one can write and the third keeps an eye on the two intellectuals !</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pankov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Pankov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome idea! Otherwise it could happen like in one old joke from soviet times. Politician meets scientists and tells him:

-- Communist party decided to beat Americans and land on the Sun first.
-- But it&#039;s too hot, it&#039;s impossible!
-- Don&#039;t you worry, communist party is not stupid, we will land at night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome idea! Otherwise it could happen like in one old joke from soviet times. Politician meets scientists and tells him:</p>
<p>&#8211; Communist party decided to beat Americans and land on the Sun first.<br />
&#8211; But it&#8217;s too hot, it&#8217;s impossible!<br />
&#8211; Don&#8217;t you worry, communist party is not stupid, we will land at night!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan French</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan French</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad NASA realizes the value of getting better science into writing.  

Clear skies, Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad NASA realizes the value of getting better science into writing.  </p>
<p>Clear skies, Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Buffalodavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffalodavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Asimov, Clark and Heinlein gone, I tend to think of Joe as the current &quot;Grand Old Man&quot; of Science Fiction. Phil, please shake his hand  for me. Thanks.


BTW, I mean the GOM term in the most endearing way. Hell, look who I compared him to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Asimov, Clark and Heinlein gone, I tend to think of Joe as the current &#8220;Grand Old Man&#8221; of Science Fiction. Phil, please shake his hand  for me. Thanks.</p>
<p>BTW, I mean the GOM term in the most endearing way. Hell, look who I compared him to.</p>
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