New black spot on Jupiter

By Phil Plait | July 19, 2009 3:33 pm

[Update (18:00 GMT): Well,it looks like it really may have been an impact! Smaller black spots have been found, and the shape of the big spot indicates a trajectory for the incoming bolide. I’m still waiting for images and more info, but for now this is looking much more like an impact and not a simple weather event as I speculated.]

Jupiter’s new black spot
The black spot is at the top of this image.

I just saw on Twitter (hard to believe I ever thought Twitter was useless) that Jupiter is sporting a new black spot near its south pole. You can see it in the picture here (click to go to the source and embiggen).

People on Twitter (and on that site linked above) are speculating that this is the result of a large impact on Jupiter, similar to what happened in 1994 when comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 slammed into the big planet. But I think that’s premature; weather changes rapidly on Jupiter, and black spots have appeared before — see here and here. That doesn’t mean this isn’t an impact event (or, for that matter, the earlier events weren’t either) but it’s jumping the gun to call it an impact event before we get more observations. I will add that this new spot is indeed very dark, which means it’s pretty interesting no matter what it is!

An irony: I am at LaunchPad, a workshop about astronomy for science fiction authors, and tonight we’re planning on visiting the Wyoming Infrared Observatory, where they have a 2.3 meter IR ‘scope, which is perfect to observe something like this. Even better, the spot should be visible tonight while we’re there! The irony is, dagnappit, that it’s very cloudy here for the first time in days. I’m hoping this cloud layer will blow out so we can get a chance to see this rare and interesting phenomenon on Jupiter.

Oh, and more irony? In a few minutes, as I write this, I will be giving my "Death from the Skies" talk, which focuses specifically on asteroid and comet impacts. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

CATEGORIZED UNDER: Astronomy, Cool stuff

Comments (120)

  1. suziqb77

    Neat! I will be at LPI next week and will have to ask them about this.

  2. It’s something wonderful…

  3. All these worlds are yours…

  4. Look closely. Tell me I’m nuts… Are the cloud formations going towards the spot?

  5. SkepTTic

    There’s a little black spot on Jupiter today. It’s the same old thing as yesterday….


    Do you want some cream for those black spots?

  7. Kevin

    Yeah, my mind went immediately to 2010 as well.

    But this is also the week – back in 1994 – when Comet P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 impacted Jupiter (July 16-22, 1994).

    Interesting, no? :)

  8. Ben

    You thought twitter was useless?! Well at least you saw the error in your way, I’ve been on that gravy train since 2008!

    Many of the people on twitter are useless, but like any tool its how you use it.

  9. Krisssl

    Looks more like a shadow than a hole… has anyone looked for a ‘Deathstar’ shaped craft in orbit around Jupiter?

  10. gruebait

    Has anyone thought to try Clorox spray?

    oh, alright, I can find the door myself…

  11. Elwood Herring

    Weird coincidence – I saw 2010 this afternoon, just a few hours ago! The monolith moves in mysterious ways.

    “What’s going to happen?”
    “Something wonderful; mind you it all depends on how far our budget for special effects will stretch…”

  12. Mike

    I think that it’s coincidence rather than irony.

  13. Ken

    What’s really ironic is people who even today still think coincidence = irony

  14. From the perspective of the observer (Phil), that particular coincidence was ironic.


  16. shawmutt

    I still think Twit…derrr is useless. I found out about the black spot on this ol’ fashioned blog, albeit four hours late (gasp!) and I now know as much as the Twitheads do about the cause 😉

  17. Hey Phil, how often do we expect impactors to ‘hit’ Saturn’s rings? What are the chances of it happening during the extended mission?

    That I would like to see pictures of.

  18. Matthew Ota

    Has CBAT been notified?

  19. Grand Lunar

    So, when does Jupiter turn into Lucifer?

    I’m surprised Phil didn’t make any references to that!
    And you call yourself a sci-fi geek!

  20. Darren Garrison

    This (the 2010 references) reminded me of an article I read once in an old Science Fiction magazine. Some googling showed me what it was in (Analog, October 1989) and other references to the article, but the article itself doesn’t appear to be available anywhere. So I scanned it from my copy of Analog and made a PDF:

  21. Michelle

    If it’s an impact, is there any way we could figure it out for sure? I mean, it IS after the event. S’not like with the comet where we knew it would happen.

  22. Gilles

    Why is Jupiter’s South Pole shown in the upper part of the picture?

  23. Grego

    Possibly a silly question, but then, that’s never stopped me before…. XD

    Anyway, if the new spot’s in the southern polar region, but at the top of the photo, is this because it was shot from Australia?

    Guess the Ozzies really are upside-down…(relatively, that is).

  24. It it because it was taken by a ground-based telescope, which inverts the image with north being down, south being up.

    One way to tell if this was an impact is to perform spectroscopy from one of the larger telescopes or with Hubble, and compare those results with data from the SL9 impacts.

  25. Telescopes invert the image, so, south appears at the top!

    This is so cool. I wonder if it’s a storm or an impact event?

  26. Ozzie

    As Phil said, it could be just a weather phenomenon like the usual “black barges” you get on Jupiter. However it should be fairly easy to see if it’s an impact site, once we have done all the requisite observations. After a few rotations, it should begin to spread out as the impact plume starts to trail in the atmosphere…if it’s an impact.

    We need Hubble or Keck to have a look at this.

  27. Kyle

    Phil be careful, when I got to tour the observatory back in 1987 it was being overrun by ladybugs, seems to happen every few years. Still remember the old dot matrix printer smushing a ladybug on their printout, they said it was the 5th time they tried to print that data. Well in Jackson today the had clouds in the morning nice clear spell and some clouds this afternoon so with a bit og luck you should be OK. Normally pretty clear up there at night. Enjoy the view and glad you got to go. Lucky dog you.

  28. SafirXP

    Maybe its a life form Sagan & also Clarke described! :)

    Most likely its just Jupiter doing its usual solar system cleanup job.

    Or its the silver surfer!

    A refracting telescopes produce up side down images.

    Damn, there should be an orbiter at all the four gas giants, all the time! Juno launches 2011 & those joint ESA & NASA missions are 10 years away! Grrrr…

  29. Ryan

    Thats not ironic, its just unfortunate. :) Who is your dictionary author, alanis morrisette?

    Although according to wikipedia it may be cosmic irony:
    cosmic irony is disparity between human desires and the harsh realities of the outside world (or the whims of the gods). By some definitions, situational irony and cosmic irony are not irony at all.

    Ah so I guess it does qualify as “cosmic irony”, which is basically “alanis irony”, you know, like rain on your wedding day.

  30. Guys, I’m posting more images of this as fast as I can process them. check out my page:

    Already a higher res version shows a trail of small dark spots in addition to the main one.

    cheers, Anthony

  31. DLC

    and some doofus was telling me the other day that we wont see anything worthwhile
    watching the known planets.

  32. nprev

    Hey, Phil, what do you think the odds are of getting some short-notice Hubble time for this?

  33. It’s 5 months too early…

  34. Stone Age Scientist

    Phil, I not only call it ironic. With technology advancing, it will now always be the Golden Age of Astronomy. Here’s looking at you astronomers. Hope you get clear skies there.


    Ryan @ #26, I think it’s safe to coin a new term, “Poe’s Irony.”

  35. MadScientist

    Given the size of the spot it’s hard to believe there was an impact and nobody saw the object. Given the effects of Shoemaker-Levy9, cometary fragments would have certainly been noticed (thanks to rabid comet hunters). If metal and rock are present out there it could be invisible and that would be very peculiar and extremely interesting – but I doubt it’s metal/rock so my guess would be that it’s not an impact feature. I’ll wait for more info from the planetary geeks. :)

  36. Ozonator

    There should be a few public copies (like and of the original floating out there in the 5th week of the 5-week 32nd DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Mode (6/21 – 27/09). “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival (OOPS) … 1. All the energy predicted to go into hurricane ecosystems and some earthquake ecosystems lately has ended up in CMEs and most probably Red Spot development on Jupiter. Greatly exceeding random chance, predicting disasters and other stuff in the universe are under the umbrella of the ecosystem driven by global warming putting a hurt on the heavens. … This is the 3rd week of 5 weeks under the 32nd DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Mode (6/21 – 27/09). … NASA’s Mars Exploration Rover Spirit should have more anomalies” (“GBRWE 7/5 – 11/09’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 7/5 – 11/09, 7/4/09).

    Remember, extremist Republicans and Christians can’t spell fool without “U”. M geaux Blue.

  37. Kysalon

    Something wonderful is going to happen!

  38. MoleOfProduction

    It may be polite, in this case, to re-host the full image on this site. The original host’s server is clearly straining under the load.

  39. Jeremy

    Twitter IS useless, I hardly think anything would be different if you’d had to wait an extra 10-30 minutes to find out about this.

    Neat story, though.

  40. Erik

    serendipity != irony

  41. Twitter has been pretty good for keeping up with immediate changes: pretty neat, eh? While I agree that calling the spot an “impact” is premature, I would say that calling it a “possible impact” is not premature. Speculation is healthy and encouraged as long as it fits the currently known facts.

    Those people reporting this new feature have been pretty good at stating it as it is. Without the twitter report, people would have not been able to observe on time: the announcement was not made on CBAT quickly. In this case, Twitter won the day.

  42. Jeff G

    @Jason Perry Unfortunately Hubble is unavailable until September at the earliest due to post servicing mission alignment activities :-(

  43. “Oh, and more irony? In a few minutes, as I write this, I will be giving my “Death from the Skies” talk, which focuses specifically on asteroid and comet impacts. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.”

    Thats not ironic, thats just coincidental.

  44. Stupid

    alright, I’m a lowly biologist. I need some ‘splaining about the inverted thing. If it inverts jupiter, why doesn’t it invert my nekkid neighbor? (j/k- he’s always sporting a banana hammock)

  45. Grego

    @Jason Perry & Michael L

    Cheers lads, good to know.

    I’ll be able to make use of this dangerous knowledge if/when my Galleloscope ever shows up.

    Hopefully, anyway. It’s tough being an astronomy buff when you live 3 miles from Manhattan…ah well, the moon should show up, at least.

  46. From the report: “Also I’d noticed it was moving too slow to be a moon or shadow.”

    That’s no moon…

  47. Thanks Jupiter, you took another one for Team Earth . . . or it’s just that pesky monolith again.

  48. The Other Ian

    I’m sure it’s just the effects of the latest WMD in the ongoing Jovian war.

  49. help

    maybe it’s just our future evil overlords testing their munitions before they reach Earth, they have these really high tech rocks that they drop when they reach the right spoooo…. hello. hello. are you still there lord?

  50. subragg

    Maybe it is where there was an object that somehow catapulted itself outward from within? maybe something penetrated the atmosphere somehow and the result was an area of burnt mineral or very fine particles mixed with gases in the atmoshere leaving a black cloud like area that is likely to be barely if at all moving/circulating condensing itself ,the particles adding thickness to the concentrated area resulting in the visually black spot…….as the weight of the particles draw them together….maybe not minerals at all but something involving fine particles of?

  51. Keith Thompson

    We have always been at war with Jupiter.

  52. Plutonium being from Pluto

    Aren’t dark spots meant to be found on Neptune not Jove? 😉

    Cool. Actually, given the temperature of the Jovian cloudtops very cool. 😉

    ‘Space Odyssey : 2010’ .. that’s next year. The monolith must be running ahead of schedule! 😉

    @ 29. SafirXP :

    Maybe its a life form Sagan & also Clarke described! Most likely its just Jupiter doing its usual solar system cleanup job. Or its the silver surfer!

    Or just a storm system albeit of a different type to the usual Jovian ones .. a deeper one letting us see to darker layers? Different chemical elemts and molecules present?

    Damn, there should be an orbiter at all the four gas giants, all the time! Juno launches 2011 & those joint ESA & NASA missions are 10 years away! Grrrr…


    We’ve got Cassini – for a few more years at least – don’t know if there’s a follow-up Saturnian mission planned.

    Not sure if there’s anything planned for Ouranos (proper greek spelling)
    & think Neptune has one mission in the early planning stages – but that might have been cancelled? :-(

  53. @Jeff G: Yeah. that’s what it’s sounding like. Still, telescopes here on Earth should be just fine when it comes to confirming this. I know IRTF in Hawaii will be observing this feature tonight, which should help a lot (the site should still be pretty warm only a day after impact compared to the surrounding cloudtops, like Phil said).

  54. Plutonium being from Pluto

    Ran out of typo-correctin’ time ..

    elemts = elements natch.

  55. michael Simmons

    It would be even cooler if we find another black spot on the opposite side… :)

  56. Flying sardines

    @ 51. subragg :

    Maybe it is where there was an object that somehow catapulted itself outward from within?

    OH NO! OH NO! Velikovsky (anyone remember him?) was right along! :-O

    Jupiter is about to eject another planet-sized comet that’s going to whizz around for a few thousand years, knocking us all helter-skelter in a series of close encounters (but probably not out of Earth’s habitable zone on “past form” – go figure … ) before it settles down to become a fully fledged planet in a neat circular orbit.

    Just like what Velikovsky said happened to Venus. :roll:

    Or not! 😉

    More seriously now. Maybe I’m being naive but for something to rise up from the Jovian depths against the sort of pressures and the gravitational well of our solar systems largest, most massive planet – I think is unlikely in the extreme. I’d rule that out.

  57. Ozonator

    My apologies to the readers for not recalling a more accessible public prediction with the good people at in front of Allah, God, and Richard C. Boorland:

    “All shook up … Jun 26th 2009 … From … Getting earlier warnings before earthquakes strike”

    “Ozonator wrote: July 5, 2009 1:10 … My apologies for stumbling across your misinformation so late – “So far it has proved impossible to predict earthquakes in any meaningful way—that is, of a given magnitude, at a given place, on a given day”. Several of my correct, real time earthquake predictions can be found on the web. Too bad it is not a geological problem until the bitter end.
    “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival (OOPS), usually more hard science than the regular GBRWE Introduction. … 1. All the energy predicted to go into hurricane ecosystems and some earthquake ecosystems lately has ended up in CMEs and most probably Red Spot development on Jupiter….””.

  58. @Grego
    Don’t worry it will come… eventually. Click my name for proof (uncorroborated digital photos though). I haven’t yet been able to see the black spot though. 😉

    I’m cross posting this from another thread because it is slightly on topic…
    Speaking of largish telescopes…
    Looks like we have some involvement in the Chile project. w00t!!
    And a 25 metre mirror too! OMG…

  59. Asimov Fan

    @ 10. Krisssl :

    Looks more like a shadow than a hole… has anyone looked for a ‘Deathstar’ shaped craft in orbit around Jupiter?

    Or one of the Shadow vessels from Babylon-Five?

    Now they were cool looking starships! 😉

    Actually one of the Shadow craft was supposedly destroyed in Jupiter’s atmosphere (found on Ganymede I think?) by the White Star in one of the best episodes of that awesome – & scientifically quite reasonable – SF TV series. I think they were pretty good on that show in taking care about much of the science incl. the Jupiter episode mentioned. It’d also have to be my all-time fave SF show.

    PS. Did the BA ever review the science of Babylon-5 or any of the B-5 movies?

  60. StevoR

    Is it ironic that people don’t seem to know what ‘irony’ means? 😉

  61. Ozonator

    Shadow craft appeared to be based on shapes of larval shrimp stages. Everybody on TRON found talented work in B5 ‘cept Jeff Bridges. Also has one of the best music CDs for any movie and TV show.

  62. Dr John Rogers, Jupiter section director of the BAA, seems to think it’s an impact site:

    “Congratulations on this amazing discovery — I agree with you and everyone else that this is an impact site, with a blur to the NW indicating the direction of the trajectory. The location was featureless in your even-higher-resolution image 2 days earlier.”

    Congrats Anthony – well deserved for all the hard work you’ve been putting in over the last few years.

  63. Stone Age Scientist

    Guys, here’s an interesting, albeit old, article on Jovian dark spots:

    As I understand it (after reading the article), the dark spots seem to work like whirlpools that expose deeper layers of clouds in the Jovian atmosphere.

    “The spot may be the result of a downward spiraling wind that blows away high clouds and reveals deeper, very dark cloud layers.”

    I’m not at all sure if this implies that ALL Jovian black spots work this way.

  64. Anthony has also had confirmation from Glenn Orton from JPL that it is indeed an impact site. Glenn is imaging the site now with the NASA Infrared Telescope!

  65. Alan Fitzsimmons

    As someone who studied the original SL-9 impact, I thought I’d add my twopennyworth.

    These are really great images, and looking at the website of Anthony Wesley it’s clear this is one astronomer that is truly expert at planetary imaging, so its obvious this feature is real. However it’s not clear to me either if this is a natural atmospheric feature or an impact.

    Dark atmospheric features have been seen previously (see Phil Platt’s examples or even So it may be a natural storm.

    On the other hand, it is no surprise that if an asteroid or inert comet had hit Jupiter recently we might not know about it. A 1-km diameter asteroid or inactive comet at that distance is roughly magnitude V=25 to 26 (100 thousand million times fainter than Jupiter itself), much too faint to pick up. SL-9 was only found because it had activated through tidal disruption – we now know that it had probably been in orbit around Jupiter since the 1930’s, but no-one picked it up because of its faintness.

    So I think the jury’s still out on this one. One way to check would be to obtain spectroscopy of multi-colour photometry of the feature. The SL-9 impact scars had a clear decrease in opacity as a function of wavelength (they absorbed more in the blue than the red). Near-IR or methane-band imaging may also help here, as the SL-9 particulates were stratospheric and hence appeared bright at these wavelengths.

  66. Sean

    Its been confirmed by jpl 😛

  67. José

    I think most peeping toms prefer refracting telescopes, as opposed to reflecting telescopes.

  68. José

    Those of you who don’t think it’s ironic forget that Phil picked this specific date for his talk in an attempt to avoid coinciding with new Jovian blemishes.

  69. Ozzie

    Well peeps, and the naysayers, as Mike (#62) above has just mentioned, it’s been confirmed as an impact feature. Good going Anthony :)

  70. Stupid

    Refracting it is!
    (thanks for taking question seriously. fairly new to astronomy as a hobby)

    *goes back to poking small mammals in the name of science

  71. REDRUM

    Common…. anyone can tell that those are a bunch of monoliths!!!!

  72. john duxx

    Jupiter should see one of those Hollywood surgeons, they’d have that spot off in 30 minutes.

  73. Jon

    I was able to see it this morning through a 16 inch reflector with a 9.4 mm focal length lens. When I saw it, I knew nothing about it and for a short few seconds I though i had discovered something new. I am curious what the analysis will show caused this. Looking at the old comet impacts from 1994, it looks almost identical.

  74. Speaker to Animals

    It’s a shadow from a General Products #20 hull.

  75. Tomasz Kwiatkowski

    A hypothesis of a comet/asteroid impact seems to gain support. On MPML Franck Marchis reports his infrared observations of the Jupiter spot with the Keck telescope. He says the spot is braight in the methane band and suggests “it is most likely a impact explosion in the upper

  76. Bee

    Shout it out….if that dont work, turn it inside out. All this 2012 nonsense….death by planet x….blah blah blah…….read the bible folks….blink of an eye….nobody will know when God comes and it doenst say anything about being in the form of a planet in the year 2012. Maybe its a glitch in the picture…or a storm or whatever. I wonder what Jupiter sees when Earth has a hurricane??? Maybe the aliens on Jupiter did it for fun just to make everyone on earth freak out. Oh, and the 2012 stuff? Is it true about our government building their own little underground world to save themselves and let us all die when planet x comes??? Maybe Jupiter voted for Cap and trade and that little black hole is the start of the disaster that is going to destroy it just like we are??? Hmmmm?? We should all worry more about what is about to happen to us then what is going on in Space!! Wake up Americans!!! Land of the Free!!! For all you out there who believe in our President… are so ignorant and you dont even know what you have done……wait til NO ONE has a job and we are all in the streets waiting for armed trucks to throw us bread for our families……sound familiar? History repeats itself!!

  77. joe

    I am sure this is caused by man made global warming…( it seems to be the excuse for everything else!)

  78. You know, I just have a hard time calling it an “impact” when Jupiter is mostly not solid. More like a splash down in the clouds.

  79. From the standpoint of an “impactor”, it wasn’t much different than hitting a rigid wall, be it gaseous or solid “surface” , the end result is the same at those energies – total annihilation.

    “Splash down” makes it sound like a gentle settling down event. Look at that black spot, there’s nothing gentle-looking about it.

  80. Brian Markowitz

    JPL confirmed this. Might wanna update your article.. : )
    Congrats to Mike

    UPDATE (7/20): It has been confirmed this is an impact on Jupiter. Mike Salway shared the news Glenn Orton from JPL has imaged the Jupiter black spot with the NASA Infrared Telescope and he has confirmed it’s an impact.

  81. Hi Dave, what’s up?
    You are one year early, is it still full of stars?

  82. Kojak

    Whatever, whoever it is, your timing is impeccable. Seriously, totally bang on.


    IMForeman @34…Care to elaborate?

  83. Mark

    Thank you Jupiter for (once again!) making the inner solar system a safer place for us Earthlings.

  84. It’s Kassandra!

    (watched the full METEOR [NBC miniseries, not the Sean Connery Movie from 1979] via DVR last night… then “They Came From Beyond Space”, British B-Movie SciFi from 1967, which had as “accurate” science as the NBC….


  85. Markle

    Since more pictures are always a good thing, here’s the IR images from Mauna Kea. :)

  86. Ozonator

    With a total of 32 predicted, the DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model is a nice tool to show how unlikely the new dark spot on Jupiter is a piece of Planet X, a zit from the face on Mars, or some of Earth’s missing glacial ice balls from the world series for Neanderthals. This would be the 3rd time this model has been associated with Red Spot perturbations. The final test if I am correct is the development of a new storm on Jupiter. If it was a space rock, no storm should develop.

    All triggered by our bad neighbor’s global warming, the new dark spot on Jupiter is most probably and energy discharge from the Earth, within Jupiter (worm hole opening directly from us), or from outside the solar system (wormhole opening from another star, indirectly from us). “Impact” visible to earthlings indicates part or all of the energy coming from terra firma. According to, Jupiter is almost behind the Earth making recent X-ray type flares and CMEs not jumpin’ Jupiter effective. A modest CME (coronal mass ejection) is seen to have start on 2009/07/16 14:42 and clearly seen billowing just off and spanning the 2 coronal holes (?) behind the eastern limb on 2009/07/16 21:42 – toward Saturn or Mercury – in “THE SUN NOW” – “LASCO C3” ( (planets by, 2009-07-17). A major CME (coronal mass ejection) is clearly seen well on it’s way toward Mars on 2009/07/06 15:15 from behind the Sun’s western limb in “THE SUN NOW” – “LASCO C3” ( With western limb of the Sun, as seen from Earth, puts Mars (and NASA’s plucky rovers) directly in the path of the CME (“Solar System Live”;, 7/6/09). “SUNSPOT ALERT: The most active sunspot of the year so far is emerging in the sun’s southern hemisphere: movie. Sunspot 1024 has at least a dozen individual dark cores and it is crackling with B-class solar flares” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 7/4/09). A modest CME (coronal mass ejection) starts on 2009/06/30 09:18 is clearly seen on 2009/06/3011:18 from behind the sun’s eastern limb in “THE SUN NOW” – “LASCO C3” ( A significant CME (coronal mass ejection) starts on 2009/07/02 07:42 is clearly seen billowing off on 2009/07/02 10:19 from behind the sun’s eastern limb in “THE SUN NOW” – “LASCO C3” (

    A comet impact should have left a clear trail of water crystals in the region. DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model is associated with 2 catastrophic comets. The 22nd official prediction of the DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model (5/6-12/07) warped enough local space and time to eat a comet and fling a rock at us. “SUNGRAZING COMET: A comet appeared today and it is rapidly plunging toward the sun. The comet is already deep inside the sun’s glare, but the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is able to monitor developments using its sun-blocking coronagraph” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 6/8/07). Making the 23rd of DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model (10/7-13/07) correct, we see blasted comet and monster sunspot on the far side. “STRANGE COMET: Astronomers around the world agree, Comet 17P/Holmes is one of the strangest things ever to explode in the night sky. It’s a comet, yet it looks like a planet with a golden core and a green atmosphere … Yesterday, Comet Holmes shocked sky watchers with a spectacular eruption, brightening almost a million-fold from 17th to 2.5th magnitude in a matter of hours” and later “EXPLODING COMET: When we say Comet 17P/Holmes is “exploding,” this is what we mean … The gaseous cloud surrounding the comet’s core has more than doubled in radius during the past 24 hours … This follows an even more astonishing million-fold increase in brightness on Oct. 23th. What is happening to this comet? It remains a mystery” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 10/26/07).

    A meteor or asteroid would have had some chemical or physical affinity to a planet’s polar region like a tail-less or mashed comet and should have been known previously for size and orbit. Or, if Jupiter is shown to have some form of quakes, JJBAL makes up for the DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model. “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival … 4. JJBAL Fireballs are US in Colorado and Queensland. Since 1/11 – 17/09 to 7/12 – 18/09, closely related fireballs in proximity to at least 1 quake prediction were witnessed by multiple people. … there now has been a total of 36 reported fireballs (84%) strongly associated (7 not associated aka incorrect) from 43 tectonic predictions (within regional, 2-week model) from JJBAL. … JJBAL is the correlation of fireballs with global warming generation from predicted earthquakes and volcanoes by JJBAL (grand cyclopean Jindal’s jingle bells aka LSU’s Lombardi)” (“GBRWE 7/19 – 25/09’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 7/19 – 25/09, 7/18/09).

    I am surviving extremist Republicans and Christians’ war on science and war on healthcare with only my long term memory of ecology. To escape them and the cancer causing toxic chemicals, I ran past Mars, the heliopause, and then time itself with my global warming models. It is not my fault y’all got your astronomy and geology stuck in my planetary ecosystem.

  87. Jupiter is making a another solar system for earthing to help us .

  88. Exactly 15 years after Shoemaker-Levy. Could it be a fragment of S-L that missed Jupiter? Or a sister comet/asteroid to S-L?
    Is this possible?

  89. Ozonator

    Houston, we have a problem with understanding global warming and the Word of Bob. “The latest impact was not predicted, and it was caught by chance” (“Jupiter Apparently Smacked by Rogue Object, New Images Reveal”; Tariq Malik, Senior Editor;;, 7/21/09). More predicted than not in GBRWE and even if it was a space rock for a significant event in the same space and time occupied by Jupiter. It will be 95% correctly predicted for time period, ecosystem, and specific event if it becomes a spinning hurricane outside the Atlantic.

    Nullifying all the work of SETI, several religions, and the scientific method – every kind of hurricane prediction and warning from extremist media outlets in America kills people, space aliens, lunatics, and Toto2 from Dry Prong, Louisiana to Uranus. “I’d rather get sucked up by the hurricane than go to the shelter” (“Watch for Flying Coconuts”; 9/2/04); “from a hurricane-safe bunker … I’m struck, you know, the hype of these things is incredible … even if it does hit, or when it does hit, it’s not going to be as bad as it was forecast to be” (“Rush Reacts to Soaring Bush Speech, and Disastrous Kerry Midnight Response”; 9/3/04); “who is destroying the environment? We are! We caused the hurricane. … if global warming had an effect on hurricanes, it would be to reduce them, because the warming would take place in the polar spheres … William Gray, the big forecast from the University of Colorado, is even working on a piece now to try to debunk this, but it’s just that: a myth … I love to predict things. That’s what being on the cutting he just of societal evolution is all about” (“Doom and Gloom Liberals Will Use Hurricane To Advance Their Agenda”; 8/29/05); “New Orleans and Katrina was all about racism to the media; it wasn’t about a hurricane. (And after a while you would have never known a hurricane went through there.) Why, Bush blew up the levees!” (“El Rushbo: Your Guiding Light”; 4/12/06); and “RUSH … Drudge … “Mr. Gore … how can you continue to claim global warming on the earth is primarily caused by mankind when other planets — Mars, Jupiter, and Pluto — with no confirmed life forms and certainly no manmade industrial greenhouse gas emissions are also showing signs of global warming? …” “ (“The Global Warming Stack”; 3/19/07) (the evil Mr. Rush “LABI” Limbaugh of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity – extremist Republican and Christian corporate horror media outlets – plagiarism, brain – stool softeners, gerbil king and princess rulers of Planet-Star Wormwoody Jenkins and national baby monitors; screwed General Motors, Bobby Jindal, and Louisiana into the ground from his 80 cats in a feces-filled mansion with ExxonMobil; pro-life as any other Missouri mule; While we see the same global cooling plagerism daily, there still is no public accounting for what the extremist media outlet did with all that money during his time of oxycontin abuse. “Talk Radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh is planning a one-man Broadway show to benefit the victims of Hurricane Katrina … for a one-day-only performance on Tuesday Oct. 18 … Sean Hannity will provide … a special introduction” (“Rush Limbaugh Plans Hurricane Katrina Benefit”; By Cris Bergman;, 9/6/05).

  90. Jar Jar Abrams

    V’Ger must illiminate the infestation of carbon based units on the third planet.

  91. Ozonator

    I do not agree. Upwelling or volcanism on Jupiter could have put a similar temperature changes in the new space. Chemical and physical reactions of the new material on the perimeter of the upwelling could generate an exothermic reaction and the downwind drifting of the plume at the highest altitude. And, orientation of the “impact” near the pole would have similarly directed the plume toward the pole or directly away and not downwind. There is also a new IR picture of the “impact” temp which is only slightly warmer than the more circular “storm” above and to the left as the picture is presented. If Jupiter had recently passed through a dust cloud, material naturally falling into the polar regions would produce such dark spots and the equivalent of cenotes around the Yukatan but with upwelling of material for Jovian hurricane ecosystmes.

  92. Ozonator

    My apologies for the poor spelling in the previous post.

    What I failed to add in the following is that the perimeter of an upwelling splotch should remain the same length with the dynamics of the plume. However, a perimeter of the a splotch generated by asteroid, comet (or Cupid, Donner, Blitzen, or RMS Titanic) should max out with the impactor then rapidly diminish as all foreign material is sucked down with the parent impactor. Current images of the great, Anthony Wesley’s discovery support the maintenance of the perimeter length with all the developing convolutions as the plume keeps contact with the surface. “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival … 3. Behold, Mr. Anthony Wesley is officially a “big time astronomer” (aka ‘da Man’) … It is incorrect to say that the new dark feature on Jupiter is an impact site especially when compared to duration and pattern of the Shoemaker-Levy 9’s impact. When you hear hooves, think horses and not zebras. When you see dark splotches on Jupiter, think a vertical stack of connected soap bubbles and not a string of Armageddon asteroids. After about 5 days, the concentric rings of Shoemaker-Levy 9 were all but gone even with titanic mixing that would finally prove global cooling on Earth. “Evolution of the G Impact Site … This mosaic of Hubble images shows the evolution of the G impact site on Jupiter. … impact plume at 07/18/94 … further evolution of the G and L sites due to winds and an additional impact (S) in the G vicinity, taken on 07/23/94 at 08:08 UT (5 days after the G impact). (Credit: R. Evans, J. Trauger, H. Hammel and the HST Comet Science Team and NASA) “ (“Shoemaker-Levy 9 / Jupiter Impact”; After 5 days in July 2009, the new feature is still doing very well and never had the reported symmetry. “JUPITER UPDATE: Five days after it was discovered, the dark mark in Jupiter’s cloudtops where an asteroid or comet hit the giant planet is still easy to see through backyard telescopes. Browse these links for recent images: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6”(“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 7/25/09). The density (specific gravity) of the potential compounds and ash products generating the new feature would strongly argue against a comet or asteroid since the dark material is still bobbing around on the surface. For example, Shoemaker-Levy 9 vast mixing power was no match for the higher density of the components compared to natural materials wafting around Jupiter. The density of the potential compounds and ash products can occur with a supporting a plum of material from one or more lower layers. (Earth sees this kind of stuff with salt domes.) This plume would breaking the surface with chemically reactive material from the various layers as a membrane over a solid core of cooler material to support the dark splotch well past the time of the disturbance caused by a comet or asteroid mixing layers. With enough reactive material and energy in the plume, the core can develop into a Red Spot type hurricane” “ (“GBRWE 7/26 – 8/1/09’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 7/26 – 8/1/09, 7/25/09).

  93. Ozonator

    Apology #2. This was incorrect: “After about 5 days, the concentric rings of Shoemaker-Levy 9 were all but gone even with titanic mixing that would finally prove global cooling on Earth.” I was reading the picture in reverse of what was labeled by Western left to right orientation. Only if the splotch starts cyclonic movement will I be able to make up for it. – rr

  94. Ozonator

    Thus, it is not true that no one can hear you scream in space.

  95. Ozonator

    Fan mail from some flounder
    “Klingon Language Institute
    Founded to promote and support this unique and exciting language.”

  96. Ozonator

    Finally, some hard evidence to support my modeling –

    At the very least, job security for some as I have been unable to find any comparable long term post-impact pictures of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 that hit Jupiter in 1994. However, the following description looks more like 1 or 2 plumes of upwelling material were needed to create the “V” wave in the atmosphere of Jupiter and not atmosphere flowing around a tumbling impactor going with the flow at ambient density. Imagine a stick stuck into a flowing creek bottom so the top is above the water. Jovian hurricanes have the potential to form at all 3 points of the “V” and 1 inside. “JUPITER’S DEBRIS CLOUD: It’s getting bigger…. “The debris cloud has enlarged and faded somewhat. It now appears as a backward letter L near Jupiter’s south pole,” reports Mike Hood who sends this picture from his backyard observatory in Kathleen, Georgia … no one knows exactly what hit Jupiter. … What happens next is anyone’s guess” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 8/1/09).

  97. Ozonator

    “Ozonator Says: August 1st, 2009 at 4:00 am … Finally, some hard evidence to support my modeling – … the following description looks more like 1 or 2 plumes of upwelling material were needed to create the “V” wave in the atmosphere of Jupiter … Jovian hurricanes have the potential to form at all 3 points of the “V” and 1 inside.”

    Tada – it appears the plume(s) have lost energy to maintain the “V” wave form. But at least 1 plume exists to sufficiently feed 3 “hurricanes” and not 1 wimpy grease spot that could have theoretically formed inside the “V”.

    “JUPITER IMPACT CLOUD: Debris from the July 19th mystery-impact on Jupiter has split into three clouds. The trifurcation is evident in this August 7th image taken by Rick Schrantz using a 10-inch telescope at his backyard observatory in Nicholasville, Kentucky … Other observers have noticed the same thing” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 8/8/09).

  98. Ozonator

    Neato torpedo!

    With thanks to Anthony Wesley, Hans Joerg Mettig, Theo Ramakers, and Dr. Tony Phillips, my blogged predictions and theories fit much better than an impact, black obelisk, and RC Hoagland’s stack of unsold coloring books on “Nth-Dimensional Energy Cooking” for “How to Serve Man”.

    “EVOLUTION OF AN IMPACT: Since July 19th, when Anthony Wesley of Australia discovered the scattered remains of a mystery impactor in the high clouds of Jupiter, amateur astronomers around the world have been photographing the planet every night. “German astronomer Hans Joerg Mettig has converted some of the best images into polar projections,” says Theo Ramakers, “and I have stitched them together to make a movie.” Click on the image to set the scene in motion: … Animations: large, small, zoom … The 3-week animation, which begins with Wesley’s discovery image and ends yesterday, shows the cindery cloud expanding, swirling, and ultimately being torn into three pieces by turbulent south polar winds. “The spot has really progressed dramatically,” says Ramakers” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 8/9/09).

    It will takes several days for me to put it into and nice little paper.

  99. Ozonator

    “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival … 3. The bravery of Mr. Anthony Wesley to put his good name on the line with international attention to a new spot on Jupiter has allowed me to make and confirm following global warming (ecological) predictions associated with the spot, resulting cloud formations, and the dynamism seen in the resulting animation given the level of GBRWE modeling. A new spot on Jupiter as part of a storm from a volcanic plume has occurred at least twice before in association with DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Models. All others suggested that this spot was formed by an unknown and unseen impact. Only a plume of great length would account for the initial “V” and resulting 3 linear spots and not an impactor. Full viewing of the animation allowed for the more complete understanding of the evidence with previous GBRWE modeling of volcanoes and hurricanes on Jupiter. The animation of the spot confirmed such a plume(s) was making the observed “V” wave until growing energy was not maintained and the “V” degenerated into 3 potential hurricanes from the established plume remnants. The 1st step was the initial dark spot. Based on the animation only, the dark spot was a depression that formed as the growing base of the volcano pulled down the gases in the column above it. Expansion of the base stopped after failing to mix with neighboring bands of differing gases and encountering pressure and magnetic bands with the increased energy inputs. This could be the same mechanism by which a coronal hole forms in a ball of gas that succeeded as a star. The 2nd step of the formation of a 3-sided “V” cloud formation was necessary to explain how a growing volcano of gas under great pressure grew up instead of out and was able to punch through to the surface of Jupiter. The 3rd step was the conversion of the triangularly shaped base volcano and magnetic plume into 3 smaller, sustainable cyclonic vents to maintain the opening to the surface. Such magnetic and gas plumes are usually seen at polar regions on Saturn, Neptune, and Venus. The more power and magnetic fields produces more sides to the plume with planet size determining whether the plume is on the inside (hurricanes) of the 3 dimensional polygon or on the outside (polar regions). The least amount of energy would be seen as a dipole “plume”, much more energy with triangle, and even more with hexagonal (“Why doesn’t Venus have a magnetic field ?”; …“A. Our Ozonator’s preamble for Survival … 3. Polar hurricanes are not surprising … The hurricane eye differences between the hexagonal and the ephemeral structure can only be explained through the lack of such on our star. The shifting nature of Venus’s eye looks to be a function of sporadic energy and material imputes. The hexagon eye of Saturn’s hurricane appears to be a function of too much energy inputs for available resources. Thus, the hexagon shape appears to be a window into titanic energies from our star, dark energy interface, or even a worm hole. “ … cyclone is surrounded by an odd, honeycombed-shaped hexagon, which itself does not seem to move while the clouds within it whip around at high speeds … Oddly, neither the fast-moving clouds inside the hexagon nor this new cyclone seem to disrupt the six-sided hexagon … ““ (“Giant Cyclones at Saturn’s Poles Create a Swirl of Mystery”; Jet Propulsion Laboratory; PRESS RELEASE;, 10/13/08). “Venus Express … observing the south pole of Venus … An enormous structure with a central part that looks like the eye of a hurricane, morphs and changes shape within a matter of days, leaving scientists puzzled … a 2000 km-wide vortex. … There is a similar structure on the planet’s north pole… the core of the vortex … creates a depression at the cloud-tops, making the region hotter … changes its shape within a matter of days, from orbit to orbit … ‘classic’ dipole shape at the centre of the vortex … 24 hours earlier shows the centre of the vortex to be almost circular … other times, it is typically oval” (“The puzzling ‘eye of a hurricane’ on Venus”;, 3/13/08)“ (“GBRWE 10/19 – 25/08’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 10/19 – 25/08, 10/18/08)“ (“GBRWE 8/16 – 22/09’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 8/16 – 22/09, 8/15/09).

  100. Ozonator

    Possibly related to the recent dark spot formation on Jupiter through high energy dimpling

    “Scientists at the Universities of Glasgow, Strathclyde and Central Lancashire have used 21st Century solar observations and image processing to finally solve a sunspot puzzle first noticed in the 18th Century. Professor Alexander Wilson … discovered in 1769 what is now known as the ‘Wilson Depression’ – the slightly ‘dished’ appearance of sunspots, which is most visible when spots are at the edges of the Sun. Wilson theorised that sunspots were depressions in the Sun’s surface, and we now know that the dished appearance is because the radiation emitted from the cooler sunspot comes from a slightly deeper layer in the solar atmosphere than the radiation emitted by the warmer surface that surrounds it. But how much deeper? … crucial in understanding the internal structure of sunspots and their magnetic fields. … Dr Lyndsay Fletcher, Physics and Astronomy Reader explains: ‘Sunspots can only be detected if they are large enough, and the visible size of a sunspot to an observer on Earth depends on many factors all working together. The depth of the Wilson depression is one of these factors. … Fraser Watson, the PhD student who led the analysis, said: ‘… large dataset available from SOHO meant that it was possible to study sunspot visibilities at all solar longitudes and allowed us to construct a model of sunspot shape and formation that produced the same statistical patterns as those seen in the data. In comparing our sunspot model with thousands of solar images we could pin down the depth of the base of sunspots to be around 1500 km below the surrounding solar surface.’ … it can be used as a ‘ground truth’ in complex models of sunspot density, temperature and magnetic field” (“Long-standing sunspot puzzle solve”; Science Centric; Source: University of Glasgow;, 8/19/09).

  101. Ozonator

    Exploring space with a bigger hammer (model) and $10 calculator –

    Taking note of the “enormous swirl” not seen with Comet P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 after a month, “JUPITER UPDATE: A little more than a month after a mystery-object crashed into Jupiter, the debris cloud is still visible in backyard telescopes. Amateur astronomer Brian Combs of Buena Vista, Georgia, took this picture on August 19th: … When Australian astrophotographer Anthony Wesley discovered the debris cloud on July 19th, it was about the size of many other small storms dotting Jupiter’s upper atmosphere. Since then, the compact black mark has expanded into an enormous swirl rivaling the girth of the Great Red Spot itself. Unfortunately, as the cloud has expanded it has also faded, and its pale markings could soon disappear altogether” (“What’s up in Space”; Dr. Tony Phillips;, 8/23/09).

    Concerning the new dark spot on Jupiter:
    “92.   Ozonator Says: July 20th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    With a total of 32 predicted, the DEQ-ORM-Esso-Kill-the-Planet Model is a nice tool … the new dark spot on Jupiter … would be the 3rd time this model has been associated with Red Spot perturbations. The final test if I am correct is the development of a new storm on Jupiter. If it was a space rock, no storm should develop.”
    “95.   Ozonator Says: July 20th, 2009 at 10:36 pm … It will be 95% correctly predicted for time period, ecosystem, and specific event if it becomes a spinning hurricane”.

    The new dark spot on Jupiter appears to now have taken the 3 previously identified, and separate, plumes and now are combined on the surface into a single cyclonic predation requiring less energy for grater stability. After the earlier embarrassment, I stumbled across some longer term images of parts of Comet P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 for comparison with the longer term image of the new dark spot on Jupiter. After a month, impact from a part of Comet P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 stopped being circular and appeared as more of a linear gash. “Comparisons with Comet P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 … Evolution of D/G Comet Impact Sites on Jupiter … July 18,1994 … July 23, 1994 … JUly 30, 1994 … August 24, 1994 … Hubble Space Telescope… Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 … SL9 Fragments D and G impact site evolution” (

    The new dark spot on Jupiter is naturally a big deal to astronomers. However, it is yet another correctly predicted violence to a planetary ecosystem that was exported from RNC’s pure, innocent, and harmless healthcare for the Earth aka global warming. Thus, hurricanes on Jupiter are almost as easy to predict as those on Earth assuming you can google my name(s) with hurricanes and are able to use the date stamp correctly on the bottom of my carbon footprint. Allah (God) didn’t set the Cuyahoga River on fire nor put a fleet of clunker SUVs on Jupiter for Conservitard “LABI” Limbaugh, ExxonMobil’s Rex Tillerson, and Australian Cardinal Pell’s celestial reward.

  102. Ozonator

    Possibly related to the initial topic and this being one of the few public forums for this Jupiter+ prediction:

    “A. Our Ozonator’s Preamble for Survival (OOPS) … 1. With condolences, the most significant quaking should take place from Italy to Tehran, lower Australia to deepest darkest Africa, and/or from upper Australia to Kamchatka. In other words, Australia should bounce around the southern hemisphere, China should bounce between the Middle East and Hawaii, and the western coast of the Americas should bounce between the Atlas Mountains and East Pacific Rise/Ridges. These titanic harmonics should generate massive solar flares, sunspots, and Red Spot and other weather changes on Jupiter (planet, not parts of Florida or Texas) …

    B. With included statistics, the specifics of the Giulaino – Gansu Model (8/30 – 9/5/9) of extreme earthquake warnings among tectonic energy lines with individual predictions for regions (magnitude in Richters) are:

    1. Venezuela (6+) -Dominic an Republic (5+) – Mississippi (3+) – New Mexico (5+) – Nevada (4+) – Northern California (5+) – Hawaii (5+);
    2. Moon Walk Model:
    a. West Chile Rise (5+) – East Pacific Ridge (6+) – Galapagos Triple Junction region (6+) – Costa Rica (6+) and
    b. Tonga (6+) – Santa Cruz (7+) – Guam (7+) – Taiwan (7+) – Japan (7+) – Kurils (7+);
    3. Azores (6+) – Strait of Gibraltar (4+) – Morocco (4+) – Algeria (6+) – Italy (7+);
    4. Ukraine (5+) – Caspian Sea (6+) – Iran (5+) – Pakistan (5+); and
    5. FoxNewsSuxs, Australia (6+) – Mid-Indian Ridge (5+) – Tanzania (6+) – Democratic Republic of Congo (5+) – Nigeria (4+)”

    (“GBRWE 8/30 – 9/5/9’s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities”; Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 8/30 – 9/5/9, 8/29/09).

  103. Stephen

    Has to be a piece of SL-9 that went into some resonance orbit with Jupiter that brought it back 15 years later. Jupiter does stuff we are only starting to understand. SL-9 also hit in the lower southern hemisphere of the planet. This rock had to pass through a keyhole.

  104. Ali Vaseghi

    Any huge mass hass meny spots due to cold fusion reaction in its solid core, such as:
    – Sun Spots
    – Hawaiian Hot Spot


Discover's Newsletter

Sign up to get the latest science news delivered weekly right to your inbox!


See More

Collapse bottom bar