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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: The Other Elwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-207253</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw an article stating that Texas is facing a growing shortage of secnodary science teachers that . I cannot imagine why.</description>
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		<title>By: Hobbes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-207152</link>
		<dc:creator>Hobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! Thanks Doug. I&#039;ve recently been posting about the Texas School Board. Same sort of idiocy. A senior moment, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! Thanks Doug. I&#8217;ve recently been posting about the Texas School Board. Same sort of idiocy. A senior moment, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-207146</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And this is a EDUCATION board?&lt;/i&gt;

ahem ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And this is a EDUCATION board?</i></p>
<p>ahem &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hobbes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-207126</link>
		<dc:creator>Hobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems the TEA is still walking on their mental knuckles.

How about astrology? That&#039;s popular too, and has folks claiming a science grounding. Here is an idea the TEA should love: Let&#039;s put all popular beliefs in science class, fire all science teachers, hire shaman, and kids need not bring anything to class but beads and rattles, and they can have pop inquisitions every week.

Science by popular opinion, indeed! Haven&#039;t the folks on at the TEA realized yet that most of this nation is laughing at them and shaking their heads at such primitive thinking.

And this is a EDUCATION board? What an embarrassment for Texas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems the TEA is still walking on their mental knuckles.</p>
<p>How about astrology? That&#8217;s popular too, and has folks claiming a science grounding. Here is an idea the TEA should love: Let&#8217;s put all popular beliefs in science class, fire all science teachers, hire shaman, and kids need not bring anything to class but beads and rattles, and they can have pop inquisitions every week.</p>
<p>Science by popular opinion, indeed! Haven&#8217;t the folks on at the TEA realized yet that most of this nation is laughing at them and shaking their heads at such primitive thinking.</p>
<p>And this is a EDUCATION board? What an embarrassment for Texas!</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
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		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I&#039;d Rather be fishin&#039;, et al: 

I think I&#039;d Rather...was close enough the first time. Whether they intended to found a nation or not is moot; the Mayflower colonists were adamant that theirs would be a society based on religion. 

Thankfully, the constitution of the USA is not in any way based upon the Mayflower Compact, nor any of their subsequent laws. The &lt;i&gt;people&lt;/i&gt; in this country have always tended to be religious, but the country itself is grounded in a secular constitution. 

Or so it was for the first 212 or so years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I&#8217;d Rather be fishin&#8217;, et al: </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d Rather&#8230;was close enough the first time. Whether they intended to found a nation or not is moot; the Mayflower colonists were adamant that theirs would be a society based on religion. </p>
<p>Thankfully, the constitution of the USA is not in any way based upon the Mayflower Compact, nor any of their subsequent laws. The <i>people</i> in this country have always tended to be religious, but the country itself is grounded in a secular constitution. </p>
<p>Or so it was for the first 212 or so years.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a law written by the Pilgrims in Massachusetts in about 1650:

&quot;Capital Lawes

If any man after legal conviction shall HAVE OR WORSHIP any other God, but the LORD GOD, he shall be put to death. &lt;i&gt; Exod. 22:20, Deut. 13:6 &amp; 10, Deut. 17:2, 6.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Source: Maine Legislative Law Library, Augusta, Maine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a law written by the Pilgrims in Massachusetts in about 1650:</p>
<p>&#8220;Capital Lawes</p>
<p>If any man after legal conviction shall HAVE OR WORSHIP any other God, but the LORD GOD, he shall be put to death. <i> Exod. 22:20, Deut. 13:6 &#038; 10, Deut. 17:2, 6.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: Maine Legislative Law Library, Augusta, Maine.</p>
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		<title>By: I'd rather be  fishin'</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-207033</link>
		<dc:creator>I'd rather be  fishin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;State religion&quot; was a bad choice of words on my part. The Pilgrims were loyal subjects of the Crown, the Mayflower Compact showed this. But they did object to the practices of the Church of England that were similar to the Catholics. That&#039;s what I meant to say. 

I did say I was most likely sleeping in  class, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;State religion&#8221; was a bad choice of words on my part. The Pilgrims were loyal subjects of the Crown, the Mayflower Compact showed this. But they did object to the practices of the Church of England that were similar to the Catholics. That&#8217;s what I meant to say. </p>
<p>I did say I was most likely sleeping in  class, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Roen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s late in the convo.  11.  GeekGoddess:

Until last year I had called myself an atheist.  I sought out and found an atheist forum and was poking around when I soon stumbled upon a topic where the author invited members of a religious forum over to have a &quot;discussion&quot; (in atheist&#039;s home turf).  When the religious &quot;target&quot; arrived and posted the first post... get this... the one who invited her in the first place ripped a strip off of her for posting in an atheist&#039;s forum.  If I remember correctly my mouth hung open as I followed a few posts in.  I couldn&#039;t take it, so I posted the person&#039;s original invite with link and all to the same topic.  The next day they turfed my membership.  The troll wasn&#039;t even a moderator, I checked before posting.  It needs to be mentioned that I found the atheist forum by linking from a religious forum.  (Don&#039;t ask about the mental Rolodex, pls)

I am skeptical, I am a non-theist but I will never call myself an atheist again.

Anyway, had to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s late in the convo.  11.  GeekGoddess:</p>
<p>Until last year I had called myself an atheist.  I sought out and found an atheist forum and was poking around when I soon stumbled upon a topic where the author invited members of a religious forum over to have a &#8220;discussion&#8221; (in atheist&#8217;s home turf).  When the religious &#8220;target&#8221; arrived and posted the first post&#8230; get this&#8230; the one who invited her in the first place ripped a strip off of her for posting in an atheist&#8217;s forum.  If I remember correctly my mouth hung open as I followed a few posts in.  I couldn&#8217;t take it, so I posted the person&#8217;s original invite with link and all to the same topic.  The next day they turfed my membership.  The troll wasn&#8217;t even a moderator, I checked before posting.  It needs to be mentioned that I found the atheist forum by linking from a religious forum.  (Don&#8217;t ask about the mental Rolodex, pls)</p>
<p>I am skeptical, I am a non-theist but I will never call myself an atheist again.</p>
<p>Anyway, had to share.</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary Ansorge Nice list, but you can add in the LDS at about 14 million and I think you need to divide the Scientology number by 10 (probably 75% of those in SoCal).  The number you gave for them is closer to what they claim, which is widely thought to be inflated by that factor of 10 or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary Ansorge Nice list, but you can add in the LDS at about 14 million and I think you need to divide the Scientology number by 10 (probably 75% of those in SoCal).  The number you gave for them is closer to what they claim, which is widely thought to be inflated by that factor of 10 or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@32
&quot;I quit speeding.&quot;

This is why I love cruise control for long trips. Set it and leave it.

As for Texas.. le sigh. The culture war goes on and on and on. Education is the key!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@32<br />
&#8220;I quit speeding.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is why I love cruise control for long trips. Set it and leave it.</p>
<p>As for Texas.. le sigh. The culture war goes on and on and on. Education is the key!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeSmithCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeSmithCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@I&#039;d rather be fishin&#039; 

I don&#039;t recall any information about the Pigrims being intent on setting up their own state religon, as a matter of fact I don&#039;t recall them ever being intent on starting up a state of any sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@I&#8217;d rather be fishin&#8217; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall any information about the Pigrims being intent on setting up their own state religon, as a matter of fact I don&#8217;t recall them ever being intent on starting up a state of any sort.</p>
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		<title>By: I'd rather be  fishin'</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'd rather be  fishin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@33
Q: Why did the Pilgrims cross the ocean?
A: To get as far away from state-sponsored religion as possible. 

My history course was very early last century but didn&#039;t the pilgrims move so they could set up their OWN state-sponsored religion? I could be wrong, I may have been otherwise intellectually engaged that week (AKA sleeping in class again).

Which Bible would you choose to teach: NIV, King James, Vulgate...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@33<br />
Q: Why did the Pilgrims cross the ocean?<br />
A: To get as far away from state-sponsored religion as possible. </p>
<p>My history course was very early last century but didn&#8217;t the pilgrims move so they could set up their OWN state-sponsored religion? I could be wrong, I may have been otherwise intellectually engaged that week (AKA sleeping in class again).</p>
<p>Which Bible would you choose to teach: NIV, King James, Vulgate&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to be sure of not breaking a law in Texas is never to go there. In fact, can we nuke it, just to be safe?</description>
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		<title>By: wench</title>
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		<dc:creator>wench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas doesn&#039;t need to teach the Bible in class, Texas needs to teach American History 101. 

Q: Why did the Pilgrims cross the ocean? 
A: To get as far away from state-sponsored religion as possible. 

As a non-christian, I&#039;d ADORE being the person teaching the Bible in Texas. I&#039;d get fired, of course, but it would be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas doesn&#8217;t need to teach the Bible in class, Texas needs to teach American History 101. </p>
<p>Q: Why did the Pilgrims cross the ocean?<br />
A: To get as far away from state-sponsored religion as possible. </p>
<p>As a non-christian, I&#8217;d ADORE being the person teaching the Bible in Texas. I&#8217;d get fired, of course, but it would be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to get speeding tickets here in my younger days. But since then, I figured out the 100% sure fire way to 100% avoid ever getting a speeding ticket:

&lt;i&gt;I quit speeding.&lt;/i&gt;

Trust me, when you can drive for 10 hours in the same direction and STILL be in Texas, it is tempting to push that pedal down to the floor on long road trips. But my money is better spent on more important things like food, running shoes and booze than speeding tickets.

8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to get speeding tickets here in my younger days. But since then, I figured out the 100% sure fire way to 100% avoid ever getting a speeding ticket:</p>
<p><i>I quit speeding.</i></p>
<p>Trust me, when you can drive for 10 hours in the same direction and STILL be in Texas, it is tempting to push that pedal down to the floor on long road trips. But my money is better spent on more important things like food, running shoes and booze than speeding tickets.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29.   LSandman24

Yeah, I had that happen once in Texas. Of course, I was breaking the sound barrier.

The last time anyone caught me speeding was in 1989. I&#039;ve either slowed down a lot since then or else my latent telepathic ability has become much sharper.

It used to be in Texas, 84 mph was a safe speed. I expect they&#039;ve hired a lot more highway patrol planes since then.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29.   LSandman24</p>
<p>Yeah, I had that happen once in Texas. Of course, I was breaking the sound barrier.</p>
<p>The last time anyone caught me speeding was in 1989. I&#8217;ve either slowed down a lot since then or else my latent telepathic ability has become much sharper.</p>
<p>It used to be in Texas, 84 mph was a safe speed. I expect they&#8217;ve hired a lot more highway patrol planes since then.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The forces of evil lurk around every corner, and we must continue to rail and rally against them.&lt;/i&gt;

Lock and load, folks!

Metaphorically speaking, of course. ;-)

Here is the latest recon:
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1250535066&amp;sr=8-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The forces of evil lurk around every corner, and we must continue to rail and rally against them.</i></p>
<p>Lock and load, folks!</p>
<p>Metaphorically speaking, of course. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here is the latest recon:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1250535066&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1250535066&#038;sr=8-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: LSandman24</title>
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		<dc:creator>LSandman24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get speeding tickets whenever I drive through Texas. One time when I was driving through for what I though would be the final time I yelled &quot;Thank [enter deity here] I&#039;m never coming back to this [enter expletive here] again!&quot; It was then that my windshield cracked... and spidered... and yea. Don&#039;t mess with Texas and don&#039;t take the Lord&#039;s name in vein there, regardless the status of his existence. You won&#039;t end up ahead, I assure you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get speeding tickets whenever I drive through Texas. One time when I was driving through for what I though would be the final time I yelled &#8220;Thank [enter deity here] I&#8217;m never coming back to this [enter expletive here] again!&#8221; It was then that my windshield cracked&#8230; and spidered&#8230; and yea. Don&#8217;t mess with Texas and don&#8217;t take the Lord&#8217;s name in vein there, regardless the status of his existence. You won&#8217;t end up ahead, I assure you.</p>
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		<title>By: Petzphur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petzphur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeekGoddess,

Sorry to hear about your experience with the so-called Free-Thinkers. Just because you&#039;re a nonbeleiver doesn&#039;t mean you have to be opposed to any knowledge of religion. Athiest writer Christopher Hitchens (author of &quot;God is not Great&quot;) is very Bible-literate. Personally, I&#039;ve read Karen Armstrong&#039;s &quot;History of God&quot; and found it facinating but it didn&#039;t compel me to want to start attending church. Better find some Freer Thinkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeekGoddess,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your experience with the so-called Free-Thinkers. Just because you&#8217;re a nonbeleiver doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be opposed to any knowledge of religion. Athiest writer Christopher Hitchens (author of &#8220;God is not Great&#8221;) is very Bible-literate. Personally, I&#8217;ve read Karen Armstrong&#8217;s &#8220;History of God&#8221; and found it facinating but it didn&#8217;t compel me to want to start attending church. Better find some Freer Thinkers.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidlpf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidlpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like she is fighting the creationists with zest.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-206930</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23. IBY:

It&#039;s &quot; He done beat my woman and raped my dog. The scumbag just needed killing, Judge.&quot;

GAry 7</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s &#8221; He done beat my woman and raped my dog. The scumbag just needed killing, Judge.&#8221;</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: IBY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-206924</link>
		<dc:creator>IBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, if the judge denies that appeal, he must be the biggest case of a douche in existance.
@jim
Say, what is that &quot;he needed killing&quot; as a valid defense thing? Does it mean that if you felt like killing someone, that is a valid defense?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, if the judge denies that appeal, he must be the biggest case of a douche in existance.<br />
@jim<br />
Say, what is that &#8220;he needed killing&#8221; as a valid defense thing? Does it mean that if you felt like killing someone, that is a valid defense?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/08/17/skeptics-with-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-206920</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re item 2: Welcome to Texas, where &quot;he needed killing&quot; was once a valid defense at a murder trial.  The TEA and supporters of their decision don&#039;t care about her rights, they just wanted to punish her for bringing up something they don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re item 2: Welcome to Texas, where &#8220;he needed killing&#8221; was once a valid defense at a murder trial.  The TEA and supporters of their decision don&#8217;t care about her rights, they just wanted to punish her for bringing up something they don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ petrolonfire:

By symbiont I assume you actually mean the parasitic crosierworm &lt;i&gt;Ancylostoma religiosus&lt;/i&gt;. 

It&#039;s main infectious route is by repeated contact with religious texts or groups at an age before the brain&#039;s adaptive immune system against mind rot has developed. As most hookworms, it&#039;s mechanism of infection involves oral, anal and fecal pathways.

Immediately after infection, the victim may appear stunned and desensitized against higher brain functioning. This is mostly a passing phase however, before the parasite has consumed or paralyzed enough synapses that the brain reorganizes in defense to a semblance of functionality.

This is the acute phase of the sickness, wherein the brain in most victims appear compartmentalized, with some still functional rational areas and some dead religious. Characteristic traits involves behavioral modifications such as cramping hands together, mumbling or mouthing meaningless words to no one, and involuntarily visiting locales of infection regularly. Many patients never recovers from this, and will continue to function at this sub-level the rest of their life.
  
Treatment can consist of learning some basic skill. By learning how to learn, the patients may eventually recover to full rationality. At this time they will also stop being infectious.

[Oh, and if someone notes that this worm has never been observed in body, merely as syndrome, just remind them that it is a &lt;i&gt;supernatural&lt;/i&gt; parasite. No need for pesky tests in religious matters!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ petrolonfire:</p>
<p>By symbiont I assume you actually mean the parasitic crosierworm <i>Ancylostoma religiosus</i>. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s main infectious route is by repeated contact with religious texts or groups at an age before the brain&#8217;s adaptive immune system against mind rot has developed. As most hookworms, it&#8217;s mechanism of infection involves oral, anal and fecal pathways.</p>
<p>Immediately after infection, the victim may appear stunned and desensitized against higher brain functioning. This is mostly a passing phase however, before the parasite has consumed or paralyzed enough synapses that the brain reorganizes in defense to a semblance of functionality.</p>
<p>This is the acute phase of the sickness, wherein the brain in most victims appear compartmentalized, with some still functional rational areas and some dead religious. Characteristic traits involves behavioral modifications such as cramping hands together, mumbling or mouthing meaningless words to no one, and involuntarily visiting locales of infection regularly. Many patients never recovers from this, and will continue to function at this sub-level the rest of their life.</p>
<p>Treatment can consist of learning some basic skill. By learning how to learn, the patients may eventually recover to full rationality. At this time they will also stop being infectious.</p>
<p>[Oh, and if someone notes that this worm has never been observed in body, merely as syndrome, just remind them that it is a <i>supernatural</i> parasite. No need for pesky tests in religious matters!]</p>
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		<title>By: Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me correct you about breaking a law in Texas.... Murder is perfectly ok as long as the target turns out to be an illegal alien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me correct you about breaking a law in Texas&#8230;. Murder is perfectly ok as long as the target turns out to be an illegal alien.</p>
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