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	<title>Comments on: Spectacular new ISS picture&#8230; from the ground!</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: The Next Twenty Years &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazing Shuttle picture! &#124; Bad Astronomy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-261606</link>
		<dc:creator>The Next Twenty Years &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazing Shuttle picture! &#124; Bad Astronomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] including several of the space station. Ralf&#8217;s images have graced this blog before, including this one of the station, a picture of Discovery and ISS from an earlier mission, and one actually showing an astronaut [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] including several of the space station. Ralf&#8217;s images have graced this blog before, including this one of the station, a picture of Discovery and ISS from an earlier mission, and one actually showing an astronaut [...]</p>
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		<title>By: International Space Station &#8211; From Earth &#171; The National Space Society of Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210322</link>
		<dc:creator>International Space Station &#8211; From Earth &#171; The National Space Society of Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently ran across these amazing picture of the International Space Station taken by Ralf Vandebergh. So I went looking for his work on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recently ran across these amazing picture of the International Space Station taken by Ralf Vandebergh. So I went looking for his work on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Salway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Salway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A collection of Ralf&#039;s best images of the ISS, Space Shuttle and other Satellites, including information about Ralf himself, is here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mikesalway.com.au/2009/07/17/amazing-images-of-the-international-space-station&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazing Images of the International Space Station&lt;/a&gt;

Well done on this excellent new image, Ralf!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A collection of Ralf&#8217;s best images of the ISS, Space Shuttle and other Satellites, including information about Ralf himself, is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mikesalway.com.au/2009/07/17/amazing-images-of-the-international-space-station" rel="nofollow">Amazing Images of the International Space Station</a></p>
<p>Well done on this excellent new image, Ralf!</p>
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		<title>By: chaboyax</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210254</link>
		<dc:creator>chaboyax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks  Fritriac  thats how i find them but good info for people that didnt know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks  Fritriac  thats how i find them but good info for people that didnt know</p>
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		<title>By: little vampire</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210194</link>
		<dc:creator>little vampire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you sit in bed one night (or day) and wonder how many people are in space right now, here you&#039;ll find the answer: http://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/. Though, it doesn&#039;t say how many mice or frogs are in space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you sit in bed one night (or day) and wonder how many people are in space right now, here you&#8217;ll find the answer: <a href="http://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/</a>. Though, it doesn&#8217;t say how many mice or frogs are in space.</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210192</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant :)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ..</p>
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		<title>By: Will Somebody Please Buy Me A New Telescope!?!?! &#171; Geordi Calrissian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210169</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Somebody Please Buy Me A New Telescope!?!?! &#171; Geordi Calrissian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gracias senor BA! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gracias senor BA! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210126</link>
		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph&#039;s certainly committed and does great with the equipment he has.   Anyone with observing time on maybe a 50&quot; telescope want to try to see what comes up?  Just whack a digital movie camera on the back - that&#039;s got beamsplitters filters and multiple detectors so you don&#039;t get artefacts due to changing filters and don&#039;t get such bad artefacts if you need to blow up the image.  Of course you&#039;ll need a &#039;scope which can be programmed to track an object in orbit and which can slew pretty fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph&#8217;s certainly committed and does great with the equipment he has.   Anyone with observing time on maybe a 50&#8243; telescope want to try to see what comes up?  Just whack a digital movie camera on the back &#8211; that&#8217;s got beamsplitters filters and multiple detectors so you don&#8217;t get artefacts due to changing filters and don&#8217;t get such bad artefacts if you need to blow up the image.  Of course you&#8217;ll need a &#8216;scope which can be programmed to track an object in orbit and which can slew pretty fast.</p>
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		<title>By: John Keller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210105</link>
		<dc:creator>John Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was some loon on godlikeproducts stating that the ISS was fake.

Here&#039;s a link to a site that give you information on ISS sightings.

http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was some loon on godlikeproducts stating that the ISS was fake.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a site that give you information on ISS sightings.</p>
<p><a href="http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/" rel="nofollow">http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/</a></p>
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		<title>By: coolstar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210079</link>
		<dc:creator>coolstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a actually a reason that most of the best photos of the ISS and shuttle are taken with small telescopes: it doesn&#039;t help to use larger ones.  Resolution is effectively set by the &quot;seeing&quot; and one of the main determinants of that is called the &quot;Fried parameter&quot; which is essentially (and somewhat simplistically) the average size of a refracting blob of air above the telescope.
Even at great seeing sites, that&#039;s around 10-20 cm or about 4-8 inches.  Once your aperture gets  much larger than that, you&#039;re averaging over lots of little blobs of air, which makes things worse.  Most of these shots are also taken with very short exposure times, to help &quot;freeze&quot; the seeing.  Professionals have learned this technique from amateurs and call it &quot;lucky imaging&quot;.
(well, it can help to use larger telescopes, of course, if you have a million dollar adaptive optics set up.......).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a actually a reason that most of the best photos of the ISS and shuttle are taken with small telescopes: it doesn&#8217;t help to use larger ones.  Resolution is effectively set by the &#8220;seeing&#8221; and one of the main determinants of that is called the &#8220;Fried parameter&#8221; which is essentially (and somewhat simplistically) the average size of a refracting blob of air above the telescope.<br />
Even at great seeing sites, that&#8217;s around 10-20 cm or about 4-8 inches.  Once your aperture gets  much larger than that, you&#8217;re averaging over lots of little blobs of air, which makes things worse.  Most of these shots are also taken with very short exposure times, to help &#8220;freeze&#8221; the seeing.  Professionals have learned this technique from amateurs and call it &#8220;lucky imaging&#8221;.<br />
(well, it can help to use larger telescopes, of course, if you have a million dollar adaptive optics set up&#8230;&#8230;.).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bates</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210061</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s amazing.  I recently saw the flyover when the shuttle and space station where closing in on each other.  Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s amazing.  I recently saw the flyover when the shuttle and space station where closing in on each other.  Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Fritriac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210050</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritriac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chaboyax

Searching for daylight passes? Look at www.heavens-above.com. Select your observing site and you&#039;ll get daylight and night passes with altitude, azimuth and the exact times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chaboyax</p>
<p>Searching for daylight passes? Look at <a href="http://www.heavens-above.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.heavens-above.com</a>. Select your observing site and you&#8217;ll get daylight and night passes with altitude, azimuth and the exact times.</p>
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		<title>By: chaboyax</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210042</link>
		<dc:creator>chaboyax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just love seeing this come over has any one here seen it in daytime i have once very early am</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just love seeing this come over has any one here seen it in daytime i have once very early am</p>
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		<title>By: Fritriac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210028</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritriac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shane

I LOLed too, but here&#039;s a little nitpick. Ralf is from the Netherlands ;-)

/Saw some of his pics at Spaceweather.com and some other sites. All of them hand-guided. This guy must be a genius. Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shane</p>
<p>I LOLed too, but here&#8217;s a little nitpick. Ralf is from the Netherlands <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>/Saw some of his pics at Spaceweather.com and some other sites. All of them hand-guided. This guy must be a genius. Kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: rich (richmanwisco)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210023</link>
		<dc:creator>rich (richmanwisco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shane

It never gets old!</description>
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<p>It never gets old!</p>
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		<title>By: Bjørnar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210016</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjørnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I seeing double?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I seeing double?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210012</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of conspiracy theorists, did any of you read that even Neil Armstrong is now saying that he didn&#039;t land on the moon?

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://bit.ly/FSrPr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Conspiracy Theorist Convinces Neil Armstrong Moon Landing Was Faked&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Oh yeah.... :D ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of conspiracy theorists, did any of you read that even Neil Armstrong is now saying that he didn&#8217;t land on the moon?</p>
<p><b><a HREF="http://bit.ly/FSrPr" rel="nofollow">Conspiracy Theorist Convinces Neil Armstrong Moon Landing Was Faked</a></b></p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keith (the first one)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210010</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith (the first one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. That&#039;s very impressive.

(I noticed another Keith posting here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. That&#8217;s very impressive.</p>
<p>(I noticed another Keith posting here)</p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210006</link>
		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If conspiracy theorists are looking for new ideas*, the ISS sure is starting to look like a swastika.

*Hey, I like to help out where I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If conspiracy theorists are looking for new ideas*, the ISS sure is starting to look like a swastika.</p>
<p>*Hey, I like to help out where I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210005</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got chills looking the photo you linked with the astronaut doing an EVA.   Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got chills looking the photo you linked with the astronaut doing an EVA.   Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210004</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Shane:

LOLski!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Shane:</p>
<p>LOLski!</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-210002</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America, you photograph satellite. In Soviet Russia, satellite photograph you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, you photograph satellite. In Soviet Russia, satellite photograph you.</p>
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		<title>By: dmolavi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-209997</link>
		<dc:creator>dmolavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more reason I need to move to the country...I miss seeing stars in the sky at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more reason I need to move to the country&#8230;I miss seeing stars in the sky at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/01/spectacular-new-iss-picture-from-the-ground/comment-page-1/#comment-209994</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken my family to a local dimly lit parking lot a couple of times to see ISS pass overhead, in the evening.

One time in particular I think Endeavour was docked and there was an EVA underway.  To think that bright dot moving across the sky had people inside (and even outside).  It was amazing.  Can&#039;t wait to see it again!</description>
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<p>One time in particular I think Endeavour was docked and there was an EVA underway.  To think that bright dot moving across the sky had people inside (and even outside).  It was amazing.  Can&#8217;t wait to see it again!</p>
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