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		<title>By: Kirt Pandya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirt Pandya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas is a backward state. Where else would Rick Perry  be elected twice? May be in Louisiana. Bobby Jindal is worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas is a backward state. Where else would Rick Perry  be elected twice? May be in Louisiana. Bobby Jindal is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: These idiots are making us all look stupid! (Texas Board of Ed)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/20/one-backwards-leap-for-texas/#comment-196638</link>
		<dc:creator>These idiots are making us all look stupid! (Texas Board of Ed)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I could argue that technically that’s correct, since Armstrong’s an engineer, which is different than a research scientist. Still, he did do some modicum of science when he walked on the frakking Moon. I think maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt on this one* [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I could argue that technically that’s correct, since Armstrong’s an engineer, which is different than a research scientist. Still, he did do some modicum of science when he walked on the frakking Moon. I think maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt on this one* [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Jef Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jef Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the big deal?  It&#039;s a school textbook.
Think back to when you were in school.....now try to remember anything about any of the textbooks you read.....Now estimate what percentage of learning actually comes from school textbooks.
So why get worked up about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the big deal?  It&#8217;s a school textbook.<br />
Think back to when you were in school&#8230;..now try to remember anything about any of the textbooks you read&#8230;..Now estimate what percentage of learning actually comes from school textbooks.<br />
So why get worked up about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis B. Sckolnick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/20/one-backwards-leap-for-texas/#comment-196636</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis B. Sckolnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like who started this junk. Maybe their next governor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like who started this junk. Maybe their next governor?</p>
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		<title>By: Danimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think if we express sincere regret, and get Obama to apologize, we
can get Mexico to take Texas back? If we say pretty pleeze?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think if we express sincere regret, and get Obama to apologize, we<br />
can get Mexico to take Texas back? If we say pretty pleeze?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems to be forgetting rule #1 in leadership... The DUMBER they are, the EASIER they are to control. So it starts in Texas... Make them stupid, indoctrinate them into the conservative (or communist) way of thought... Keep them in a cage (even though they cant see it). Same reason why Tobacco and Alcohol are legal and Marijuana isn&#039;t... Ignorance + Lawmaker Payoffs (lobbyists)+ Indoctrination to a conformed way of thinking = Power and Money for the few... It&#039;s  your country, do something about it, or keep your head up your a$$ so you dont have to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to be forgetting rule #1 in leadership&#8230; The DUMBER they are, the EASIER they are to control. So it starts in Texas&#8230; Make them stupid, indoctrinate them into the conservative (or communist) way of thought&#8230; Keep them in a cage (even though they cant see it). Same reason why Tobacco and Alcohol are legal and Marijuana isn&#8217;t&#8230; Ignorance + Lawmaker Payoffs (lobbyists)+ Indoctrination to a conformed way of thinking = Power and Money for the few&#8230; It&#8217;s  your country, do something about it, or keep your head up your a$$ so you dont have to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/20/one-backwards-leap-for-texas/#comment-196633</link>
		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who are astounded that teachers of all people would want to do this, please understand that the BoE does not comprise teachers. They are political appointments made by the governor, who is currently doing all he can to pander to the religious right for re-election.

I live in Texas, and believe me, if teachers ran the BoE, things would be much better. I&#039;m going to try to get on that board one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who are astounded that teachers of all people would want to do this, please understand that the BoE does not comprise teachers. They are political appointments made by the governor, who is currently doing all he can to pander to the religious right for re-election.</p>
<p>I live in Texas, and believe me, if teachers ran the BoE, things would be much better. I&#8217;m going to try to get on that board one day.</p>
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		<title>By: InkedMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>InkedMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dunno.. maybe this has already been touched on..  im not understanding why his scientific status  has any bearing on wether or not hes in a &quot;History&quot; book.   lots of non-scientists made history.  and i&#039;m pretty sure walking on the moon qualifies as history...   but hey, if they wanna raise a state full of  morons... go for it. Who knows... maybe another one can grow up to be a bad president :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dunno.. maybe this has already been touched on..  im not understanding why his scientific status  has any bearing on wether or not hes in a &#8220;History&#8221; book.   lots of non-scientists made history.  and i&#8217;m pretty sure walking on the moon qualifies as history&#8230;   but hey, if they wanna raise a state full of  morons&#8230; go for it. Who knows&#8230; maybe another one can grow up to be a bad president <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: roninthewest</title>
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		<dc:creator>roninthewest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Rosa Parks being a minority in Montgomery, AL in 1955 that needs a little correction. She was classified as an ethnic Negro and by way of the census of 1956 for the State of Alabama, County of Montgomery and City of Montgomery would have been in the ethnic majority for that city&#039;s population. She and all other Negros were repressed by the segregationist minority Whites in Montgomery.

The same can be all most said for Caesar Chavez. At the time he was attempting to organize the &quot;Wetbacks&quot; in California, the state was second only to Texas in cotton production, vast acreage set aside for crops that required hand picking i.e. lettuce, grapes, fruit trees and rice. I am not talking about populated counties like Los Angeles or San Francisco but the unpopulated counties from Bakersfield north along Highway 99 through the Central Valley of California to Stockton. When the &quot;migrant workers&quot; (we would now call them illegal immigrants) were needed to pick a crop in one of these unpopulated counties just by headcount they would often by the majority in that county for the time they were needed.

And if we go back further in history lets not forget the Indian Wars from 1637 through the 1890s, we were pretty good at in wiping out the majority North American Indians and their way of life by the White man.

As a white man who is old enough to remember the Russians marching into Budapest, I am not proud of our history in race relations but it is history and should be covered in social studies. Its all about what a impact of a person attempting to correct a wrong, whether a minority or majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Rosa Parks being a minority in Montgomery, AL in 1955 that needs a little correction. She was classified as an ethnic Negro and by way of the census of 1956 for the State of Alabama, County of Montgomery and City of Montgomery would have been in the ethnic majority for that city&#8217;s population. She and all other Negros were repressed by the segregationist minority Whites in Montgomery.</p>
<p>The same can be all most said for Caesar Chavez. At the time he was attempting to organize the &#8220;Wetbacks&#8221; in California, the state was second only to Texas in cotton production, vast acreage set aside for crops that required hand picking i.e. lettuce, grapes, fruit trees and rice. I am not talking about populated counties like Los Angeles or San Francisco but the unpopulated counties from Bakersfield north along Highway 99 through the Central Valley of California to Stockton. When the &#8220;migrant workers&#8221; (we would now call them illegal immigrants) were needed to pick a crop in one of these unpopulated counties just by headcount they would often by the majority in that county for the time they were needed.</p>
<p>And if we go back further in history lets not forget the Indian Wars from 1637 through the 1890s, we were pretty good at in wiping out the majority North American Indians and their way of life by the White man.</p>
<p>As a white man who is old enough to remember the Russians marching into Budapest, I am not proud of our history in race relations but it is history and should be covered in social studies. Its all about what a impact of a person attempting to correct a wrong, whether a minority or majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Knoxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knoxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I read this correctly a single &quot;review team,&quot; made up of parents and teachers, has made a *proposal* to remove Armstrong from the &quot;science strand&quot; of a single 5th grade social studies textbook? But the TBOE has yet to act on it.

Perhaps we shouldn&#039;t be so quick to condemn the TBOE, and certainly not the *entire state of Texas*, when so far a few people have come forth with an idiotic proposal which has yet to be ruled on.

Hopefully, the board will come to the obvious conclusion to leave Armstrong and the stunning scientific achievement of Apollo 11 both in the 5th grade curriculum and in the text. (The very argument this review team supposedly made that Armstrong isn&#039;t a &quot;scientist&quot; is both silly and irrelevant.)

Fifth grade seems to me a perfect time to spark the imaginations of young students about what can be achieved through a combination of brain power, hard work, and science. Sure, one could argue that other scientific achievements have had a greater impact on society as a whole, but I still remember learning about the Apollo 11 mission when I was around 10 years old and thinking it was the coolest thing ever, and that science was actually pretty interesting after all. At that age, I don&#039;t think I would have been quite as enthusiastic learning about,  for example, atomic principles or the discovery of penicillin (though both are significant in shaping both human history and scientific understanding).

So sure, though a book and a curriculum can&#039;t include &quot;everything,&quot; I hope the TX BOE seriously considers what is developmentally appropriate in terms of making our students enthusiastic learners; when it comes to science, the history of the American space program is a no-brainer for inclusion.  And that can&#039;t be taught without including Apollo 11 and the first moonwalk by Armstrong and Aldrin.

Elementary school aged kids be taught this as a matter of course--I&#039;m perplexed that it would be an issue with any teacher/parent group and can&#039;t fathom what their angle could possibly be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I read this correctly a single &#8220;review team,&#8221; made up of parents and teachers, has made a *proposal* to remove Armstrong from the &#8220;science strand&#8221; of a single 5th grade social studies textbook? But the TBOE has yet to act on it.</p>
<p>Perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t be so quick to condemn the TBOE, and certainly not the *entire state of Texas*, when so far a few people have come forth with an idiotic proposal which has yet to be ruled on.</p>
<p>Hopefully, the board will come to the obvious conclusion to leave Armstrong and the stunning scientific achievement of Apollo 11 both in the 5th grade curriculum and in the text. (The very argument this review team supposedly made that Armstrong isn&#8217;t a &#8220;scientist&#8221; is both silly and irrelevant.)</p>
<p>Fifth grade seems to me a perfect time to spark the imaginations of young students about what can be achieved through a combination of brain power, hard work, and science. Sure, one could argue that other scientific achievements have had a greater impact on society as a whole, but I still remember learning about the Apollo 11 mission when I was around 10 years old and thinking it was the coolest thing ever, and that science was actually pretty interesting after all. At that age, I don&#8217;t think I would have been quite as enthusiastic learning about,  for example, atomic principles or the discovery of penicillin (though both are significant in shaping both human history and scientific understanding).</p>
<p>So sure, though a book and a curriculum can&#8217;t include &#8220;everything,&#8221; I hope the TX BOE seriously considers what is developmentally appropriate in terms of making our students enthusiastic learners; when it comes to science, the history of the American space program is a no-brainer for inclusion.  And that can&#8217;t be taught without including Apollo 11 and the first moonwalk by Armstrong and Aldrin.</p>
<p>Elementary school aged kids be taught this as a matter of course&#8211;I&#8217;m perplexed that it would be an issue with any teacher/parent group and can&#8217;t fathom what their angle could possibly be.</p>
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