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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Halloween Costume Creative Idea &#124; On Eating in the Uk &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/22/on-eating-in-the-uk/comment-page-3/#comment-227119</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Costume Creative Idea &#124; On Eating in the Uk &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaking of drinks, a British pint is 20 oz . Unsurprisingly, the macrobrews available in the UK are vastly superior to even most microbrews available in the US (even Budweiser uses a different formulation, which I much prefer to what they sell in the US). Tennents is often regarded as &#8230;.. These days, the UK has pretty good food (though not everywhere&#8217;s perfect, anywhere in the world) and can definitely provide you with a really good meal – even if you are a vegetarian ! &#8230;This Blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Speaking of drinks, a British pint is 20 oz . Unsurprisingly, the macrobrews available in the UK are vastly superior to even most microbrews available in the US (even Budweiser uses a different formulation, which I much prefer to what they sell in the US). Tennents is often regarded as &#8230;.. These days, the UK has pretty good food (though not everywhere&#8217;s perfect, anywhere in the world) and can definitely provide you with a really good meal – even if you are a vegetarian ! &#8230;This Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Markle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/22/on-eating-in-the-uk/comment-page-3/#comment-222374</link>
		<dc:creator>Markle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@103 Chip &lt;blockquote&gt;Davis being a college town, the choices were either sports-bar burger joints, Chinese takeout and pizza, (which is very good there,)&lt;/blockquote&gt;  This, I take it, was after Professor&#039;s went out of business?  Steve&#039;s and Woodstock&#039;s were fairly good but pricey for the average student.  The Blue Mango was pub to go to.  Excellent beer and salsa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@103 Chip<br />
<blockquote>Davis being a college town, the choices were either sports-bar burger joints, Chinese takeout and pizza, (which is very good there,)</p></blockquote>
<p>  This, I take it, was after Professor&#8217;s went out of business?  Steve&#8217;s and Woodstock&#8217;s were fairly good but pricey for the average student.  The Blue Mango was pub to go to.  Excellent beer and salsa.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stanbrook</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/22/on-eating-in-the-uk/comment-page-3/#comment-222371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stanbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s strange. We Brits think the same thing about US food as you now perceive ours. Full of fat and sugar. We see your food as supersized candy, supersized burgers, supersized steaks with huge starch balls (potatoes) loaded with sour cream and ... so on.

I think the problem is that as a visitor/tourist you just don&#039;t know where the good places to eat are, and secondly you eat 90% of your meals in restaurants rather than cooking at home. So Brits come back from the US with a few extra pounds and Americans come back from the UK with a few extra pounds. 

The lesson? Most restaurant food is made to [make a profit and] taste nice, not necessarily to be good for you.

And, Phil, the Bangers and Mash at the TAM Saturday evening event were really really poor quality. I hope you found some better ones in your other meals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange. We Brits think the same thing about US food as you now perceive ours. Full of fat and sugar. We see your food as supersized candy, supersized burgers, supersized steaks with huge starch balls (potatoes) loaded with sour cream and &#8230; so on.</p>
<p>I think the problem is that as a visitor/tourist you just don&#8217;t know where the good places to eat are, and secondly you eat 90% of your meals in restaurants rather than cooking at home. So Brits come back from the US with a few extra pounds and Americans come back from the UK with a few extra pounds. </p>
<p>The lesson? Most restaurant food is made to [make a profit and] taste nice, not necessarily to be good for you.</p>
<p>And, Phil, the Bangers and Mash at the TAM Saturday evening event were really really poor quality. I hope you found some better ones in your other meals!</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Rockin&#039; Dave (77) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;And then there is the crowning glory of British cuisine, the cheeses! Stilton, real Cheddar from the Cheddar Valley, Cheshire – I could go on…The French only THINK they know how to make cheese. Bah!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sadly, there is very little recognition of British cheese, even within Britain.  I blame the supermarkets - they stock a limited range of pre-packaged, processed cheeses that often aren&#039;t as good as the proper fresh cheese that they are supposed to be.

I find it hard to pinpoint a favourite English cheese, since there are so many and I have had the opportunity to try so few.  All I can suggest is to refer the reader to the Monty Python cheese shop sketch for a mere hint of the diversity of cheese that is produced.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As to brewing, while American brewers have come a long way, the one often imitated, never duplicated, glory is Irish, and I mean Guinness on draft (If I have to specify Guinness stout, you’re not a beer lover.).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I take issue with you here.  Point 1: Murphy&#039;s.  Point 2: Maclay&#039;s Oatmeal Stout.  I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Rockin&#8217; Dave (77) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>And then there is the crowning glory of British cuisine, the cheeses! Stilton, real Cheddar from the Cheddar Valley, Cheshire – I could go on…The French only THINK they know how to make cheese. Bah!</p></blockquote>
<p>Sadly, there is very little recognition of British cheese, even within Britain.  I blame the supermarkets &#8211; they stock a limited range of pre-packaged, processed cheeses that often aren&#8217;t as good as the proper fresh cheese that they are supposed to be.</p>
<p>I find it hard to pinpoint a favourite English cheese, since there are so many and I have had the opportunity to try so few.  All I can suggest is to refer the reader to the Monty Python cheese shop sketch for a mere hint of the diversity of cheese that is produced.</p>
<blockquote><p>As to brewing, while American brewers have come a long way, the one often imitated, never duplicated, glory is Irish, and I mean Guinness on draft (If I have to specify Guinness stout, you’re not a beer lover.).</p></blockquote>
<p>I take issue with you here.  Point 1: Murphy&#8217;s.  Point 2: Maclay&#8217;s Oatmeal Stout.  I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/22/on-eating-in-the-uk/comment-page-3/#comment-222368</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip Helbig (110) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me suggest mushy peas (a specialty of the Northwest, often served with fish and chips).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nay!  Mushy peas are also ubiquitous in Yorkshire and the North-east.

And, IIUC, they are a different species of pea from your normal garden peas.  They naturally go colourless and mushy when cooked, and the final stage of the preparation (which I also cannot remember) changes their colour to that vivid green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip Helbig (110) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me suggest mushy peas (a specialty of the Northwest, often served with fish and chips).</p></blockquote>
<p>Nay!  Mushy peas are also ubiquitous in Yorkshire and the North-east.</p>
<p>And, IIUC, they are a different species of pea from your normal garden peas.  They naturally go colourless and mushy when cooked, and the final stage of the preparation (which I also cannot remember) changes their colour to that vivid green.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me suggest mushy peas (a specialty of the Northwest, often served with fish and chips).
Like mashed potatoes, but mashed peas.  There is some sort of chemical added to them
(lye?), though, which transforms their colour to a fluorescent lime-green reminiscent of a
1970s AMC Pacer.

Someone once said that he who wishes to eat three meals a day in England should eat
breakfast 3 times.  There&#039;s something to that, although I couldn&#039;t eat a full English
breakfast regularly (but do enjoy one occasionally).

Vegetables are rare, true, but there are many vegetarians, and they know where to get
them.

I once knew an English vegetarian who ended up in a steakhouse in New Mexico.  After
explaining that he was a vegetarian, they brought him chicken!  All a question of
perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me suggest mushy peas (a specialty of the Northwest, often served with fish and chips).<br />
Like mashed potatoes, but mashed peas.  There is some sort of chemical added to them<br />
(lye?), though, which transforms their colour to a fluorescent lime-green reminiscent of a<br />
1970s AMC Pacer.</p>
<p>Someone once said that he who wishes to eat three meals a day in England should eat<br />
breakfast 3 times.  There&#8217;s something to that, although I couldn&#8217;t eat a full English<br />
breakfast regularly (but do enjoy one occasionally).</p>
<p>Vegetables are rare, true, but there are many vegetarians, and they know where to get<br />
them.</p>
<p>I once knew an English vegetarian who ended up in a steakhouse in New Mexico.  After<br />
explaining that he was a vegetarian, they brought him chicken!  All a question of<br />
perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Antiquated Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antiquated Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@OldRockinDave,
Budvar is actually quite a commonly found export, though maybe not so much in the States. You can get it in the UK easily enough (though I&#039;m afraid the Brits mostly have no damn idea how to pour lager, which is one reason I only drink real ale or cloudy, dry cider when in the UK). It&#039;s heavily exported to Germany. And I saw it once in a bar in Ch&#039;unch&#039;on, Republic of Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OldRockinDave,<br />
Budvar is actually quite a commonly found export, though maybe not so much in the States. You can get it in the UK easily enough (though I&#8217;m afraid the Brits mostly have no damn idea how to pour lager, which is one reason I only drink real ale or cloudy, dry cider when in the UK). It&#8217;s heavily exported to Germany. And I saw it once in a bar in Ch&#8217;unch&#8217;on, Republic of Korea.</p>
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