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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223421</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imminent?

Great, they&#039;ll be here just in time to fix the imminent global warming catastrophe we&#039;re causing. Maybe they&#039;ll even help with the imminent swine flu pandemic that&#039;s set to wipe us out imminently....</description>
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<p>Great, they&#8217;ll be here just in time to fix the imminent global warming catastrophe we&#8217;re causing. Maybe they&#8217;ll even help with the imminent swine flu pandemic that&#8217;s set to wipe us out imminently&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: whb03</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223243</link>
		<dc:creator>whb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - I CAN&#039;T WAIT unitl next Tuesday. Even if V is probably going to be as stupid as it looks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; I CAN&#8217;T WAIT unitl next Tuesday. Even if V is probably going to be as stupid as it looks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: whb03</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223242</link>
		<dc:creator>whb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#19 Dan Gilbert - dang, you beat me to it:

“a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.” 

Yup. We are the Visitors. And we are in peace. Always.

Sounds like a plug for V if I ever heard one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#19 Dan Gilbert &#8211; dang, you beat me to it:</p>
<p>“a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.” </p>
<p>Yup. We are the Visitors. And we are in peace. Always.</p>
<p>Sounds like a plug for V if I ever heard one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aerimus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@70.   Richard Hunter

Well I, for one, welcome our giganormous gigantic alien overloads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@70.   Richard Hunter</p>
<p>Well I, for one, welcome our giganormous gigantic alien overloads.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hunter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223164</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If extraterrestrial disclosure does occur at the end of 2009 or early 2010, President Obama will lead an unprecedented effort to promote global governance through the United Nations.&quot;

Is it just me, or has this joker been watching too much Super Dimension Fortress Macross?

Ooh, maybe if the do reveal some of that Extraterrestrial Over-Technology it&#039;ll include transformin&#039; fighter jets. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If extraterrestrial disclosure does occur at the end of 2009 or early 2010, President Obama will lead an unprecedented effort to promote global governance through the United Nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it just me, or has this joker been watching too much Super Dimension Fortress Macross?</p>
<p>Ooh, maybe if the do reveal some of that Extraterrestrial Over-Technology it&#8217;ll include transformin&#8217; fighter jets. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223161</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45 Strahlungsamt:
You missed the best one: Divert the rover to run over and kill the poor little Martian bunny!!! That is, after you&#039;ve already released the pictures showing said bunny, for the entire world to see.
Ahem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 Strahlungsamt:<br />
You missed the best one: Divert the rover to run over and kill the poor little Martian bunny!!! That is, after you&#8217;ve already released the pictures showing said bunny, for the entire world to see.<br />
Ahem.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223159</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E. Kaye (62) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;There’s enough evidence of Extraterrestrial visitation to fill an airplane hangar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, dear.  Not this old chestnut again.

&lt;blockquote&gt; Thousands of first-hand reports from military people, airline pilots, police officers and other trained observers from all across the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

None of which is actually evidence of anything.  Even &quot;trained observers&quot; can misidentify familiar things in unfamiliar settings.  What are these people &quot;trained&quot; to observe?  Human activities.  Are any of them meteorologists and astronomers too?

Even the best-trained human eye can be fooled.  That&#039;s what optical illusions are.

Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, which is why a modern law court will never convict on eyewitness testimony alone.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thousands of computer authenticated photos and videos. Many taken before computers were part of mainstream society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, show me just one that simply &lt;b&gt;could not&lt;/b&gt; be some terrestrial object or phenomenon misidentified as an alien spaceship.

&lt;blockquote&gt; Trace evidence from landing spots that among other things have tested positive for radioactivity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Proving what?

If you&#039;re anywhere near Dounray, a radioactivity hot-spot means a plutonium particle from the poer station, not alien visitation.  There are thousands of places that are naturally more radioactive than the average background, even before westarted messing about with uranium.

How many of those alleged landing sites had their radioactivity measured before the alleged landing?

&lt;blockquote&gt;You all either don’t know of the plethora of evidence or conveniently ignore it. Very small-minded people here. I actually feel bad for you all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You should feel bad for yourself, because the &quot;evidence&quot; to which you refer does not actually prove anything.  Even if alien technology is vastly superior to our own, the challenges of interstellar travel are still huge.  To believe that they are overcome routinely on the basis of some blurry photos that could as easily be hubcaps as anything else is lunacy.

Even the most mysterious and inexplicable UFO reports could still be some hitherto unknown terrestrial or atmospheric phenomenon.  Certainly, something we don&#039;t know is orders of magnitude more plausible than alien spaceships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E. Kaye (62) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>There’s enough evidence of Extraterrestrial visitation to fill an airplane hangar.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, dear.  Not this old chestnut again.</p>
<blockquote><p> Thousands of first-hand reports from military people, airline pilots, police officers and other trained observers from all across the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>None of which is actually evidence of anything.  Even &#8220;trained observers&#8221; can misidentify familiar things in unfamiliar settings.  What are these people &#8220;trained&#8221; to observe?  Human activities.  Are any of them meteorologists and astronomers too?</p>
<p>Even the best-trained human eye can be fooled.  That&#8217;s what optical illusions are.</p>
<p>Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, which is why a modern law court will never convict on eyewitness testimony alone.</p>
<blockquote><p>Thousands of computer authenticated photos and videos. Many taken before computers were part of mainstream society.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, show me just one that simply <b>could not</b> be some terrestrial object or phenomenon misidentified as an alien spaceship.</p>
<blockquote><p> Trace evidence from landing spots that among other things have tested positive for radioactivity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Proving what?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re anywhere near Dounray, a radioactivity hot-spot means a plutonium particle from the poer station, not alien visitation.  There are thousands of places that are naturally more radioactive than the average background, even before westarted messing about with uranium.</p>
<p>How many of those alleged landing sites had their radioactivity measured before the alleged landing?</p>
<blockquote><p>You all either don’t know of the plethora of evidence or conveniently ignore it. Very small-minded people here. I actually feel bad for you all.</p></blockquote>
<p>You should feel bad for yourself, because the &#8220;evidence&#8221; to which you refer does not actually prove anything.  Even if alien technology is vastly superior to our own, the challenges of interstellar travel are still huge.  To believe that they are overcome routinely on the basis of some blurry photos that could as easily be hubcaps as anything else is lunacy.</p>
<p>Even the most mysterious and inexplicable UFO reports could still be some hitherto unknown terrestrial or atmospheric phenomenon.  Certainly, something we don&#8217;t know is orders of magnitude more plausible than alien spaceships.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223158</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John (61) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First, no-one has claimed we are alone so this a just a straw-man.  Alien life of some kind is considered fairly likely to exist by most scientists.  However, just because alien life is likely to exist does not make it any more plausible that Earth has been visited by alien spaceships.  The evidence for Earth having been visited is zero.

&lt;blockquote&gt; It’s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the “reasoned” thinking out there, performed by “professional” skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The rest of your comment is mere dribbling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John (61) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science.</p></blockquote>
<p>First, no-one has claimed we are alone so this a just a straw-man.  Alien life of some kind is considered fairly likely to exist by most scientists.  However, just because alien life is likely to exist does not make it any more plausible that Earth has been visited by alien spaceships.  The evidence for Earth having been visited is zero.</p>
<blockquote><p> It’s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the “reasoned” thinking out there, performed by “professional” skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.</p></blockquote>
<p>The rest of your comment is mere dribbling.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223137</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science. It’s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the “reasoned” thinking out there, performed by “professional” skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.&quot;

Dear John; No professional skeptic has ever said this, I love for you to pull out an article where a &quot;professional&quot; skeptic says that we are alone in the universe. It&#039;s not counterintuitive thinking to ask for evidence of UFO&#039;s being flown by sentient beings from another planet. I also argue that the only reason we know that the earth isn&#039;t flat or that we live in a geocentric universe is wait for it...

SCIENCE PLUS REASON not blindly proclaiming negative evidence and crying foul while jumping on your dead high horse, because people don&#039;t believe you.


PS.  

E. Kaye, I love me some video of nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science. It’s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the “reasoned” thinking out there, performed by “professional” skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear John; No professional skeptic has ever said this, I love for you to pull out an article where a &#8220;professional&#8221; skeptic says that we are alone in the universe. It&#8217;s not counterintuitive thinking to ask for evidence of UFO&#8217;s being flown by sentient beings from another planet. I also argue that the only reason we know that the earth isn&#8217;t flat or that we live in a geocentric universe is wait for it&#8230;</p>
<p>SCIENCE PLUS REASON not blindly proclaiming negative evidence and crying foul while jumping on your dead high horse, because people don&#8217;t believe you.</p>
<p>PS.  </p>
<p>E. Kaye, I love me some video of nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh, Good&#8230;It&#8217;s &#8220;Science&#8221; &#171; To No Particular End&#8230;Sercan Ersoy&#39;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223136</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh, Good&#8230;It&#8217;s &#8220;Science&#8221; &#171; To No Particular End&#8230;Sercan Ersoy&#39;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this, however, I was still surprised to find this article posted on Bad Astronomy, which describes the Obama Administration&#8217;s &#8220;plans&#8221; to tell the world all about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this, however, I was still surprised to find this article posted on Bad Astronomy, which describes the Obama Administration&#8217;s &#8220;plans&#8221; to tell the world all about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cairnos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223078</link>
		<dc:creator>Cairnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HaHA! At last the truth will emerge. Obama really wasn&#039;t born in the US. He also wasn&#039;t born in Kenya....... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HaHA! At last the truth will emerge. Obama really wasn&#8217;t born in the US. He also wasn&#8217;t born in Kenya&#8230;&#8230;. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Old Geezer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223057</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously guys, when I read it (what, about a week ago?) I immediately thought here is another Black Helicopter conspiracy.  The implication is that Obama will announce that there are aliens, then he will go to the U.N. and ask that &quot;The New World Order&quot; be established, etc., etc.

I just laughed and clicked, &quot;DELETE.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously guys, when I read it (what, about a week ago?) I immediately thought here is another Black Helicopter conspiracy.  The implication is that Obama will announce that there are aliens, then he will go to the U.N. and ask that &#8220;The New World Order&#8221; be established, etc., etc.</p>
<p>I just laughed and clicked, &#8220;DELETE.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lugosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lugosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the evidence for extraterrestrial life will no doubt be this photo returned by one of the Mars rovers: http://www.starfleetcommand.us/4_jan_MarsProbeMarvin.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the evidence for extraterrestrial life will no doubt be this photo returned by one of the Mars rovers: <a href="http://www.starfleetcommand.us/4_jan_MarsProbeMarvin.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.starfleetcommand.us/4_jan_MarsProbeMarvin.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: E. Kaye</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-223033</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO66afmxWKA&amp;feature=fvw

There&#039;s enough evidence of Extraterrestrial visitation to fill an airplane hangar. Thousands of first-hand reports from military people, airline pilots, police officers and other trained observers from all across the world. 
Thousands of computer authenticated photos and videos. Many taken before computers were part of mainstream society. Trace evidence from landing spots that among other things have tested positive for radioactivity.
You all either don&#039;t know of the plethora of evidence or conveniently ignore it. Very small-minded people here. I actually feel bad for you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO66afmxWKA&#038;feature=fvw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO66afmxWKA&#038;feature=fvw</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s enough evidence of Extraterrestrial visitation to fill an airplane hangar. Thousands of first-hand reports from military people, airline pilots, police officers and other trained observers from all across the world.<br />
Thousands of computer authenticated photos and videos. Many taken before computers were part of mainstream society. Trace evidence from landing spots that among other things have tested positive for radioactivity.<br />
You all either don&#8217;t know of the plethora of evidence or conveniently ignore it. Very small-minded people here. I actually feel bad for you all.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science. It&#039;s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the &quot;reasoned&quot; thinking out there, performed by &quot;professional&quot; skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To believe that we are alone in the universe is a belief steeped in anti-science. It&#8217;s the equivalent of believing the earth is flat or that we live in a geocentric universe. Sadly, some of the &#8220;reasoned&#8221; thinking out there, performed by &#8220;professional&#8221; skeptics and the like, is wholly anti-reason, literally drowning in counterintuitive thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/27/nonsense-is-easy/comment-page-2/#comment-222983</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This SO sounds like a Faux Snooz release, as in&quot;First, we&#039;ll recount a RUMOR about little green men(So, how come there are never any Little Green Women. Is that why they keep coming here?) Then, the next night, some bozzo will call in and confirm that HE heard of the rumor, so NOW it&#039;s a &quot;fact&quot; and pretty soon, every nut on the web will be SEEING Little Green Men. Presto. Instant Snooz.&quot;

Jon Stewart caught Faux Snooz doing that very thing. They are SO fallacious. 

Sometimes these whakos remind me of a Phase Locked Loop circuit,ie, when it fails, you can&#039;t figure out where the error started, because each component is triggered by the previous component. I SO hated working on those, back in the &#039;70s.
&quot;News&quot; on the web sometimes reminds of those Phase locked loop circuits. Apply power and watch it explode and go.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This SO sounds like a Faux Snooz release, as in&#8221;First, we&#8217;ll recount a RUMOR about little green men(So, how come there are never any Little Green Women. Is that why they keep coming here?) Then, the next night, some bozzo will call in and confirm that HE heard of the rumor, so NOW it&#8217;s a &#8220;fact&#8221; and pretty soon, every nut on the web will be SEEING Little Green Men. Presto. Instant Snooz.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jon Stewart caught Faux Snooz doing that very thing. They are SO fallacious. </p>
<p>Sometimes these whakos remind me of a Phase Locked Loop circuit,ie, when it fails, you can&#8217;t figure out where the error started, because each component is triggered by the previous component. I SO hated working on those, back in the &#8217;70s.<br />
&#8220;News&#8221; on the web sometimes reminds of those Phase locked loop circuits. Apply power and watch it explode and go.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Keith (the first one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith (the first one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>42 Strahlungsamt:

Any ideas what the first video actually is? Looks to me like someone went filming round an abandoned or unfinished building (on Earth of course).

The 2nd one is easy. It&#039;s just the rim of the very large crater giving a shadow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42 Strahlungsamt:</p>
<p>Any ideas what the first video actually is? Looks to me like someone went filming round an abandoned or unfinished building (on Earth of course).</p>
<p>The 2nd one is easy. It&#8217;s just the rim of the very large crater giving a shadow.</p>
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		<title>By: drksky</title>
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		<dc:creator>drksky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland,&lt;/em&gt;

Bwwwwhahahahahahaha!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland,</em></p>
<p>Bwwwwhahahahahahaha!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I get SO tired of the &quot;oogedy boogedy&quot; wing of the UFO-Conspiracy-Psychoceramics Complex coming up with this wishful-thinking nonsense. If they spent half as much time on reality as they do on this utter load of mule muffins (in the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter), they&#039;d probably learn something.

But noooooooo..... it&#039;s a far better use of their time to cluster in hidden locations, put on the tinfoil hats, and mutter among themselves about gubmint conspiracies and putting forth never-proven &quot;claims&quot; that NASA hides things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I get SO tired of the &#8220;oogedy boogedy&#8221; wing of the UFO-Conspiracy-Psychoceramics Complex coming up with this wishful-thinking nonsense. If they spent half as much time on reality as they do on this utter load of mule muffins (in the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter), they&#8217;d probably learn something.</p>
<p>But noooooooo&#8230;.. it&#8217;s a far better use of their time to cluster in hidden locations, put on the tinfoil hats, and mutter among themselves about gubmint conspiracies and putting forth never-proven &#8220;claims&#8221; that NASA hides things.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read the article I thought it was an april foods day joke then I realized it&#039;s Oct 28, 2009. I can&#039;t believe that Hoagland still gets any press.

Keep up the good work Phil

What would Mr. Spock say about all this!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read the article I thought it was an april foods day joke then I realized it&#8217;s Oct 28, 2009. I can&#8217;t believe that Hoagland still gets any press.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work Phil</p>
<p>What would Mr. Spock say about all this!!!</p>
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		<title>By: fred edison</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Conspiracy Hoagland has his own debunking page.  LOL.  He should feel honored to get that much respect.  I&#039;m not sure he deserves it.

Now to dispense of the utter nonsense and get on with actual science.

Ares 1-X is alive!  It&#039;s alive!  Hand shakes and hugs all around.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Conspiracy Hoagland has his own debunking page.  LOL.  He should feel honored to get that much respect.  I&#8217;m not sure he deserves it.</p>
<p>Now to dispense of the utter nonsense and get on with actual science.</p>
<p>Ares 1-X is alive!  It&#8217;s alive!  Hand shakes and hugs all around.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aerimus (51) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, the problem is going to occur when, despite the current ongoing war with HR 8799d, he decides to also wage war against Fomalhaut b due to “Saucers of Mass Abduction” claims.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, hang on.

I thought it was the Tau-Ceti Imperium that were responsible for all the mass abductions.  It&#039;s just the &lt;i&gt;conference&lt;/i&gt; that was on Formalhaut b.

PS, to anyone who doesn&#039;t get the geekdom reference - Google &quot;Skizz&quot;.</description>
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<blockquote><p>Well, the problem is going to occur when, despite the current ongoing war with HR 8799d, he decides to also wage war against Fomalhaut b due to “Saucers of Mass Abduction” claims.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, hang on.</p>
<p>I thought it was the Tau-Ceti Imperium that were responsible for all the mass abductions.  It&#8217;s just the <i>conference</i> that was on Formalhaut b.</p>
<p>PS, to anyone who doesn&#8217;t get the geekdom reference &#8211; Google &#8220;Skizz&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damon (39) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;UFOlogists have been doing just fine without blessings from U.S. presidents for several decades, we’ll keep going strong thanks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in - what? 50+ years of making claims - you have not one piece of actual evidence.

&lt;blockquote&gt; There are a lot of interesting mysteries in our immediate skies and they aren’t going to investigate themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps this is so.  And perhaps they all have mundane explanations.  But, either way, they are not worth investigating after the event unless there is some actual data to examine.

&lt;blockquote&gt; But hey, at least we have shills like Flying Sardines to put us in our place by filling their posts with emoticons in place of rational discourse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And yet you do not address any of the points (s)he raised.  I am left to assume this is because you are unable to.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Even a blind baby could figure out that there are some pretty strange things in those old Moon photos&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup!  The surface of the Moon!  That really is strange.  An environment with no air and no water (to speak of) and no weather apart from bombardment by micrometeorites and the solar wind.  That &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; weird!

&lt;blockquote&gt; and it’s common knowledge that NASA/JPL have a filtering system for “anomalous” images (see: airbrushing).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

It may be &quot;common knowledge&quot; among you conspiracy loonies, but this means nothing.  Completely aside from the fact that anyone with a suitable receiver can intercept signals from e.g. LRO or MRO or Cassini or the Apollo missions, you have made no attempt to support your slander with evidence.

IOW, it&#039;s just the same as every other groundless CT claim.

&lt;blockquote&gt; But don’t take my word for it. Google!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I certainly shan&#039;t take your word for it, and I daresay I could find dozens of websites that claim the same thing you do, but this makes neither you nor them correct.  Unless you can come up with some actual evidence to support your accusations, they are no more than fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damon (39) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>UFOlogists have been doing just fine without blessings from U.S. presidents for several decades, we’ll keep going strong thanks.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in &#8211; what? 50+ years of making claims &#8211; you have not one piece of actual evidence.</p>
<blockquote><p> There are a lot of interesting mysteries in our immediate skies and they aren’t going to investigate themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps this is so.  And perhaps they all have mundane explanations.  But, either way, they are not worth investigating after the event unless there is some actual data to examine.</p>
<blockquote><p> But hey, at least we have shills like Flying Sardines to put us in our place by filling their posts with emoticons in place of rational discourse.</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet you do not address any of the points (s)he raised.  I am left to assume this is because you are unable to.</p>
<blockquote><p>Even a blind baby could figure out that there are some pretty strange things in those old Moon photos</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup!  The surface of the Moon!  That really is strange.  An environment with no air and no water (to speak of) and no weather apart from bombardment by micrometeorites and the solar wind.  That <i>is</i> weird!</p>
<blockquote><p> and it’s common knowledge that NASA/JPL have a filtering system for “anomalous” images (see: airbrushing).</p></blockquote>
<p>What the hell is that supposed to mean?</p>
<p>It may be &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; among you conspiracy loonies, but this means nothing.  Completely aside from the fact that anyone with a suitable receiver can intercept signals from e.g. LRO or MRO or Cassini or the Apollo missions, you have made no attempt to support your slander with evidence.</p>
<p>IOW, it&#8217;s just the same as every other groundless CT claim.</p>
<blockquote><p> But don’t take my word for it. Google!</p></blockquote>
<p>I certainly shan&#8217;t take your word for it, and I daresay I could find dozens of websites that claim the same thing you do, but this makes neither you nor them correct.  Unless you can come up with some actual evidence to support your accusations, they are no more than fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: mike burkhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea for the what I said came from the tv show the outer limits (60s verson) in one episode some sciencetists planed to unite the World by fakeing an alien invasion of couse the plan backfired same as it will if Obama realy tries it </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea for the what I said came from the tv show the outer limits (60s verson) in one episode some sciencetists planed to unite the World by fakeing an alien invasion of couse the plan backfired same as it will if Obama realy tries it</p>
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		<title>By: Aerimus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@48. mike burkhart:

Well, the problem is going to occur when, despite the current ongoing war with HR 8799d, he decides to also wage war against Fomalhaut b due to &quot;Saucers of Mass Abduction&quot; claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@48. mike burkhart:</p>
<p>Well, the problem is going to occur when, despite the current ongoing war with HR 8799d, he decides to also wage war against Fomalhaut b due to &#8220;Saucers of Mass Abduction&#8221; claims.</p>
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