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	<title>Comments on: &#8230; and the flag was still there</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Buzz Lightyear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-474264</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Lightyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, will someone please post a link to this new picture. I keep getting two pictures of &quot;100 meters&quot; which seem more like 100miles. All I see are dots, and a little dash, and some craters. Seriously - we can zoom in to see the time on someone&#039;s watch from outer space - so let&#039;s turn that sucker around and get some clear images from the moon, can we? My Grandparents didn&#039;t help buy a $30b project to get a few specs on what looks like a picture of the moon. C&#039;mon. I need my souvenir - picture anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, will someone please post a link to this new picture. I keep getting two pictures of &#8220;100 meters&#8221; which seem more like 100miles. All I see are dots, and a little dash, and some craters. Seriously &#8211; we can zoom in to see the time on someone&#8217;s watch from outer space &#8211; so let&#8217;s turn that sucker around and get some clear images from the moon, can we? My Grandparents didn&#8217;t help buy a $30b project to get a few specs on what looks like a picture of the moon. C&#8217;mon. I need my souvenir &#8211; picture anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Sofos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-383134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 12:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he he. Nice try. Maybe some day in the future there will be crystal clear photos offered where the LEMS are really distinguishable when computer imaging can produce something that can cheat the eye. In the meantime these attempts to support one of the biggest fakes in history, are the saddest activity a guy can get involved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he he. Nice try. Maybe some day in the future there will be crystal clear photos offered where the LEMS are really distinguishable when computer imaging can produce something that can cheat the eye. In the meantime these attempts to support one of the biggest fakes in history, are the saddest activity a guy can get involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: locoSpEnsamiENtos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-353982</link>
		<dc:creator>locoSpEnsamiENtos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! we have the technology to look into deep space with amazing imagery but when we look at the &quot;moon landing site&quot; all we get is a blurry non HD image! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! we have the technology to look into deep space with amazing imagery but when we look at the &#8220;moon landing site&#8221; all we get is a blurry non HD image! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-325392</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait..that pixels a flag? Is that what I&#039;m supposed to believe here? Man, you guys must be a gullible bunch... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait..that pixels a flag? Is that what I&#8217;m supposed to believe here? Man, you guys must be a gullible bunch&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-261076</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone who doesn&#039;t believe we ever landed there should should watch the myth busters special on the moon landing episode. they generate shadows that appear to be pointing two different directions using just a hill, a few small rocks, a model of the lander and a spotlight. they tested the flutter in a vacuum chamber and tested if dry soil similar to what was brought back could hold a well defined footprint to name a few. they also had an observatory fire a laser at the reflectors that where left behind then fire a laser at a spot nearby and got the expected result. the beam from the reflectors was returned but the one fired at dirt and rock was not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe we ever landed there should should watch the myth busters special on the moon landing episode. they generate shadows that appear to be pointing two different directions using just a hill, a few small rocks, a model of the lander and a spotlight. they tested the flutter in a vacuum chamber and tested if dry soil similar to what was brought back could hold a well defined footprint to name a few. they also had an observatory fire a laser at the reflectors that where left behind then fire a laser at a spot nearby and got the expected result. the beam from the reflectors was returned but the one fired at dirt and rock was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Villa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-246788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flag fell over in lift off. It is most certainly not waving or standing, most film you see of the takeoff jumps to orbital height quickly, but there is footage of the entire take off, and the flag fell over. 
Since we haven&#039;t been back to that exact spot whatever is left of it, is still there laying in the dirt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flag fell over in lift off. It is most certainly not waving or standing, most film you see of the takeoff jumps to orbital height quickly, but there is footage of the entire take off, and the flag fell over.<br />
Since we haven&#8217;t been back to that exact spot whatever is left of it, is still there laying in the dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: New Apollo 17 Landing Photo Clearly Shows Lander, Flag [Moon Landing]</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-245215</link>
		<dc:creator>New Apollo 17 Landing Photo Clearly Shows Lander, Flag [Moon Landing]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Going a step further, the location can be compared to more recent images of the landing site and everything still jives up. So, can we now finally quiet down with the moon landing conspiracies and focus on figuring out how to colonize the tubes up there? Pretty please? [SESE via Discover] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Going a step further, the location can be compared to more recent images of the landing site and everything still jives up. So, can we now finally quiet down with the moon landing conspiracies and focus on figuring out how to colonize the tubes up there? Pretty please? [SESE via Discover] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lechris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-243739</link>
		<dc:creator>lechris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this odd, Its funny how we have the technology to look into deep space with amazing imagery but still, blurry pictures; non HD pictures of the moon landing site

weird...isn&#039;t it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this odd, Its funny how we have the technology to look into deep space with amazing imagery but still, blurry pictures; non HD pictures of the moon landing site</p>
<p>weird&#8230;isn&#8217;t it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JSteph</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSteph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blast from the take-off really moved the surface dust around. I will bet the first footprints on the moon are wiped clean.
Too bad. That would have made a good future museum exhibit when they put a museum on that spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blast from the take-off really moved the surface dust around. I will bet the first footprints on the moon are wiped clean.<br />
Too bad. That would have made a good future museum exhibit when they put a museum on that spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mart diangelo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-236225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mart diangelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who dont believe in the moon landings always seem to try and support the theory by talking about shadows, etc.. my question to them would be..what part of the journey do you think is so impossible? The rockets work, the suits work, and we are talking about the moon here, not landing on the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who dont believe in the moon landings always seem to try and support the theory by talking about shadows, etc.. my question to them would be..what part of the journey do you think is so impossible? The rockets work, the suits work, and we are talking about the moon here, not landing on the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: D.G.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-232491</link>
		<dc:creator>D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometime wonder if the first moon landing was a hoax. As ridiculous as a lot of people think it is, there&#039;s a lot of conspiracy theorist questions that need answered---legitimate questions, not far our there crazy ones. My reason for thinking maybe there&#039;s something to it is because of the space race. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN TO THE MOON, but question whether it was really done the first time when it&#039;s said to have been done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometime wonder if the first moon landing was a hoax. As ridiculous as a lot of people think it is, there&#8217;s a lot of conspiracy theorist questions that need answered&#8212;legitimate questions, not far our there crazy ones. My reason for thinking maybe there&#8217;s something to it is because of the space race. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN TO THE MOON, but question whether it was really done the first time when it&#8217;s said to have been done.</p>
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		<title>By: … and the flag was still there &#124; Myhand Family</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-230881</link>
		<dc:creator>… and the flag was still there &#124; Myhand Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: spriggig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-230602</link>
		<dc:creator>spriggig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could drag every denier up there on a rocket and shove their face in the dirt and they still wouldn&#039;t believe. People believe what they want to believe because it supports their own, cherished world-view, not because of reason or evidence.

All I know for sure is if you call Buzz Aldrin a liar, you get punched in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could drag every denier up there on a rocket and shove their face in the dirt and they still wouldn&#8217;t believe. People believe what they want to believe because it supports their own, cherished world-view, not because of reason or evidence.</p>
<p>All I know for sure is if you call Buzz Aldrin a liar, you get punched in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology blog &#187; New Apollo 17 Landing Photo Clearly Shows Lander, Flag [Moon Landing]</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-229287</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology blog &#187; New Apollo 17 Landing Photo Clearly Shows Lander, Flag [Moon Landing]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Going a step further, the location can be compared to more recent images of the landing site and everything still jives up. So, can we now finally quiet down with the moon landing conspiracies and focus on figuring out how to colonize the tubes up there? Pretty please? [SESE via Discover] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Going a step further, the location can be compared to more recent images of the landing site and everything still jives up. So, can we now finally quiet down with the moon landing conspiracies and focus on figuring out how to colonize the tubes up there? Pretty please? [SESE via Discover] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mjt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-228584</link>
		<dc:creator>mjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious - a photo of a portion of the moon and 
arrows pointing to various anomolies and told 
&quot;this is that and that is this&quot;.  People will believe 
whatever is told to them, even when it&#039;s obvious 
it can&#039;t be verified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious &#8211; a photo of a portion of the moon and<br />
arrows pointing to various anomolies and told<br />
&#8220;this is that and that is this&#8221;.  People will believe<br />
whatever is told to them, even when it&#8217;s obvious<br />
it can&#8217;t be verified.</p>
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		<title>By: Wading In</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-228577</link>
		<dc:creator>Wading In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doubt if the flag &#039;flutters&#039;....lunar specialists...is there any wind on the Moon??   Wouldn&#039;t NASA have sent a flag resistant to deterioration in elemental &#039;space&#039; conditions?  NASA ...well, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubt if the flag &#8216;flutters&#8217;&#8230;.lunar specialists&#8230;is there any wind on the Moon??   Wouldn&#8217;t NASA have sent a flag resistant to deterioration in elemental &#8216;space&#8217; conditions?  NASA &#8230;well, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayzen Freeze</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-228565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayzen Freeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shopped the landing never happened and in all picks there are never any stars  what to cloudy in space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shopped the landing never happened and in all picks there are never any stars  what to cloudy in space.</p>
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		<title>By: H1N1 FTW - Friggin Abandoned</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-225068</link>
		<dc:creator>H1N1 FTW - Friggin Abandoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] let&#8217;s go back to the moon, for a while. This awesome new image shows even the flag! Or something that could theoretically be the flag. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] let&#8217;s go back to the moon, for a while. This awesome new image shows even the flag! Or something that could theoretically be the flag. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-3/#comment-224914</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GEOLUNA, you are right, and I corrected it. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GEOLUNA, you are right, and I corrected it. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: OrbitalHub &#187; Carnival of Space #127</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-2/#comment-224899</link>
		<dc:creator>OrbitalHub &#187; Carnival of Space #127</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posts cover topics like the Ares I-X flight, NASA&#8217;s Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC), the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which is currently orbiting the Moon just 50 km off the surface, the HiRISE view of Phoenix in the Martian spring, armadas of robots exploring distant planets, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posts cover topics like the Ares I-X flight, NASA&#8217;s Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC), the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which is currently orbiting the Moon just 50 km off the surface, the HiRISE view of Phoenix in the Martian spring, armadas of robots exploring distant planets, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GEOLUNA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-2/#comment-224802</link>
		<dc:creator>GEOLUNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, but it&#039;s Harrison Schmitt, not Schmidt, as commonly misspelled.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, but it&#8217;s Harrison Schmitt, not Schmidt, as commonly misspelled.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-2/#comment-224374</link>
		<dc:creator>T.E.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, that&#039;s all true, especially about Surveyor&#039;s weight limits. But about lasers particularly, remember that surely they were on their way up in power fast enough for someone to think an array was worth putting aboard Apollo 11, which went up just a year and a half after the last Surveyor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, that&#8217;s all true, especially about Surveyor&#8217;s weight limits. But about lasers particularly, remember that surely they were on their way up in power fast enough for someone to think an array was worth putting aboard Apollo 11, which went up just a year and a half after the last Surveyor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/30/and-the-flag-was-still-there/comment-page-2/#comment-224345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>95.   T.E.L. Says: &quot;I’m surprised that NASA never put an array aboard one of the Surveyors.&quot;

Outside of the weight limitations (the Surveyors were launched on an Atlas-Agena which has enough trouble just getting an empty payload shroud to the moon!), remember that when the Surveyor design was frozen, lasers had only been in existence for about five years. They were still pretty much laboratory devices with a maximum power in the unitary Watt, or maybe tens of Watts range. On the Mythbusters moon hoax show, the boys visited an observatory to watch as they pinged one of the reflector arrays. IIRC, they astronomer said that it took a megawatt level laser, concentrated through a large telescope, to pump out enough photos to have a detectable number make it back.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>95.   T.E.L. Says: &#8220;I’m surprised that NASA never put an array aboard one of the Surveyors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Outside of the weight limitations (the Surveyors were launched on an Atlas-Agena which has enough trouble just getting an empty payload shroud to the moon!), remember that when the Surveyor design was frozen, lasers had only been in existence for about five years. They were still pretty much laboratory devices with a maximum power in the unitary Watt, or maybe tens of Watts range. On the Mythbusters moon hoax show, the boys visited an observatory to watch as they pinged one of the reflector arrays. IIRC, they astronomer said that it took a megawatt level laser, concentrated through a large telescope, to pump out enough photos to have a detectable number make it back.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>toasterhead,

I know what you&#039;re saying, but I don&#039;t think any peripheral effort is being made to snap the landing site pics. The satellite&#039;s job is to photograph the whole surface, which as a bonus must include the landing sites.</description>
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<p>I know what you&#8217;re saying, but I don&#8217;t think any peripheral effort is being made to snap the landing site pics. The satellite&#8217;s job is to photograph the whole surface, which as a bonus must include the landing sites.</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.E.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Hein Says:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Any physics lab with a powerful enough laser and the coordinates of any of these ALSEP packages, can bounce a laser beam off of the lunar surface to this day. ‘Nuff said about us never landing on the moon.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The laser arrays are NOT proof that anyone has walked on the Moon. The Soviet Union landed its own arrays on the Moon aboard robots, and those reflectors are also still in use today. Astronauts were never the critical element in putting those instruments in place. I&#039;m surprised that NASA never put an array aboard one of the Surveyors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Hein Says:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Any physics lab with a powerful enough laser and the coordinates of any of these ALSEP packages, can bounce a laser beam off of the lunar surface to this day. ‘Nuff said about us never landing on the moon.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The laser arrays are NOT proof that anyone has walked on the Moon. The Soviet Union landed its own arrays on the Moon aboard robots, and those reflectors are also still in use today. Astronauts were never the critical element in putting those instruments in place. I&#8217;m surprised that NASA never put an array aboard one of the Surveyors.</p>
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