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	<title>Comments on: Pray this doesn&#8217;t get passed</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Pray This Doesn&#8217;t Get Passed &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine &#171; halloweencutouts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/06/pray-this-doesnt-get-passed/comment-page-3/#comment-227073</link>
		<dc:creator>Pray This Doesn&#8217;t Get Passed &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine &#171; halloweencutouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With the Amish, my mother and father would live with them for a month each year, to establish trust. The Amish refused to support any immunization because of their religious beliefs, but eventually, my step-father was able to convince them. &#8230;.. I had CSPAN on this morning. On opening the US House of Representatives for the healthcare debates, a Roman Catholic chaplain, the HOUSE CHAPLAIN, gave an innvocation. The house chaplain is a paid position–once, again, &#8230;Continue [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With the Amish, my mother and father would live with them for a month each year, to establish trust. The Amish refused to support any immunization because of their religious beliefs, but eventually, my step-father was able to convince them. &#8230;.. I had CSPAN on this morning. On opening the US House of Representatives for the healthcare debates, a Roman Catholic chaplain, the HOUSE CHAPLAIN, gave an innvocation. The house chaplain is a paid position–once, again, &#8230;Continue [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pray this doesn’t get passed &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; U Reader &#124; Your daily news stop station ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pray this doesn’t get passed &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; U Reader &#124; Your daily news stop station ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/06/pray-this-doesnt-get-passed/comment-page-3/#comment-225629</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ndt (103) -

Obviously, the hate is overflowing from you.  I can see it from my house.

;-)

I&#039;m hate-filled, too :  I think that all of these decisions should be based on empirical data (which, as you have obviously worked out, is the criterion for hate in such matters).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ndt (103) -</p>
<p>Obviously, the hate is overflowing from you.  I can see it from my house.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hate-filled, too :  I think that all of these decisions should be based on empirical data (which, as you have obviously worked out, is the criterion for hate in such matters).</p>
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		<title>By: Früv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Früv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite part of this article was that when I read it in my news reader, the Google ad at the bottom was a scientology video!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite part of this article was that when I read it in my news reader, the Google ad at the bottom was a scientology video!</p>
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		<title>By: ndt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/06/pray-this-doesnt-get-passed/comment-page-3/#comment-225479</link>
		<dc:creator>ndt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think the government shouldn&#039;t pay for weapons systems that don&#039;t work. Does that mean I&#039;m hate-filled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think the government shouldn&#8217;t pay for weapons systems that don&#8217;t work. Does that mean I&#8217;m hate-filled?</p>
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		<title>By: Pray for Pay &#171; Testament of Helplessness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pray for Pay &#171; Testament of Helplessness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 9, 2009 Jesse Leave a comment Go to comments    A recent post at one of my favorite blogs, Bad Astronomy, linked me to another very good blog post at NeuroLogica, which went into detail about something a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 9, 2009 Jesse Leave a comment Go to comments    A recent post at one of my favorite blogs, Bad Astronomy, linked me to another very good blog post at NeuroLogica, which went into detail about something a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/06/pray-this-doesnt-get-passed/comment-page-3/#comment-225145</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MC (67) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry Phil. It was great getting to your blog on science, but the same things you are accusing faith-based organisation of, you are doing. Science=faith? You and your group are doing well together walling in too much hate-speech and negative talk bad-mouthing anyone who is not with you. I will now exercise my right not to visit your blog on science(?) anymore. Thanks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, if you ever do come back, perhaps you would deign to share with the rest of us exactly where Phil&#039;s posts are &quot;hate-filled&quot;, and where he assumes that science = faith (if I take your cryptic remark correctly).  Quoting specific examples would be best.

As far as I have been able to tell, science makes one large assumption, which is that the things we observe and measure genuinely correlate with a reality that is external to the self.  I do not think this assumption is unreasonable, nor do I think it requires one to have faith, since one makes exactly the same assumption every time one crosses the road or eats a meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC (67) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sorry Phil. It was great getting to your blog on science, but the same things you are accusing faith-based organisation of, you are doing. Science=faith? You and your group are doing well together walling in too much hate-speech and negative talk bad-mouthing anyone who is not with you. I will now exercise my right not to visit your blog on science(?) anymore. Thanks</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if you ever do come back, perhaps you would deign to share with the rest of us exactly where Phil&#8217;s posts are &#8220;hate-filled&#8221;, and where he assumes that science = faith (if I take your cryptic remark correctly).  Quoting specific examples would be best.</p>
<p>As far as I have been able to tell, science makes one large assumption, which is that the things we observe and measure genuinely correlate with a reality that is external to the self.  I do not think this assumption is unreasonable, nor do I think it requires one to have faith, since one makes exactly the same assumption every time one crosses the road or eats a meal.</p>
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