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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: tracer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-229514</link>
		<dc:creator>tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitpick:

The part of the Bible that talks about bearing false witness is essentially referring to lying on the witness stand in a trial.  (Biblical scholars, can you back me up on this one?)  There is no Commandment against plain old everyday lying in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitpick:</p>
<p>The part of the Bible that talks about bearing false witness is essentially referring to lying on the witness stand in a trial.  (Biblical scholars, can you back me up on this one?)  There is no Commandment against plain old everyday lying in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus Snarp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228674</link>
		<dc:creator>Gus Snarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two questions:

1.  The &quot;The Stupid, it Burns&quot; graphic appears to be a number 2.  Is this pareidolia, or is there a whole series of matching number graphics?

2. What polls?  I can&#039;t stand when people say things like: &quot;various polls indicate&quot; without telling me what polls, or better yet, linking to them.  Now you&#039;ve told me that half of America is monumentally stupid, which may be true, but I need to see the evidence.  It&#039;s one thing to believe in Christianity, or to vote a certain way, but quite another to actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two questions:</p>
<p>1.  The &#8220;The Stupid, it Burns&#8221; graphic appears to be a number 2.  Is this pareidolia, or is there a whole series of matching number graphics?</p>
<p>2. What polls?  I can&#8217;t stand when people say things like: &#8220;various polls indicate&#8221; without telling me what polls, or better yet, linking to them.  Now you&#8217;ve told me that half of America is monumentally stupid, which may be true, but I need to see the evidence.  It&#8217;s one thing to believe in Christianity, or to vote a certain way, but quite another to actually believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228458</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually a little bit surprised that this thread hasn&#039;t attracted one of the reality-denying trolls (yet).

Phil, are you losing your touch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually a little bit surprised that this thread hasn&#8217;t attracted one of the reality-denying trolls (yet).</p>
<p>Phil, are you losing your touch?</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daffy -

To update Dr. Johnson, &quot;Televangelism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@daffy -</p>
<p>To update Dr. Johnson, &#8220;Televangelism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 58.   Nigel Depledge Says: 

&lt;i&gt;On my DVDs, Arnie was a Cyberdyne Systems model T-101 in that film and Terminator 2. The T-1000 was the mimetic polyalloy terminator in T-2. For some strange reason, in the latest film and in the TV series, the Arnie-style terminators (i.e. those with no special schticks like the T-1000 or the T-X from the third film) were described as T-888s. &lt;/i&gt;

Okay - thanks for clearing that up for us. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 58.   Nigel Depledge Says: </p>
<p><i>On my DVDs, Arnie was a Cyberdyne Systems model T-101 in that film and Terminator 2. The T-1000 was the mimetic polyalloy terminator in T-2. For some strange reason, in the latest film and in the TV series, the Arnie-style terminators (i.e. those with no special schticks like the T-1000 or the T-X from the third film) were described as T-888s. </i></p>
<p>Okay &#8211; thanks for clearing that up for us. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228378</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Daffy. That is it, exactly. 

Attention, money, followers who put you on a pedestal like some idiot hero....that&#039;s what&#039;s all about. If it weren&#039;t religion, it would be UFOs or space alien abductions or crop circles or homeopathic medicine or...pick an idiocy. Religion just happens to be a profitable market in this country.

And they cannot be disgraced or taken down, because they&#039;ll just spin their downfall into yet another opportunity to rise and fleece the marching morons. Witness Ted Haggard, Peter Popoff, or any in an endless devolutionary line of amoral amoeboids leaching blood off the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Daffy. That is it, exactly. </p>
<p>Attention, money, followers who put you on a pedestal like some idiot hero&#8230;.that&#8217;s what&#8217;s all about. If it weren&#8217;t religion, it would be UFOs or space alien abductions or crop circles or homeopathic medicine or&#8230;pick an idiocy. Religion just happens to be a profitable market in this country.</p>
<p>And they cannot be disgraced or taken down, because they&#8217;ll just spin their downfall into yet another opportunity to rise and fleece the marching morons. Witness Ted Haggard, Peter Popoff, or any in an endless devolutionary line of amoral amoeboids leaching blood off the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59. daffy.

Good point. Sociopaths milk the uninformed as much as they can. Is it any wonder there are so many of the latter who have little in the way of resources? It appalls me when I think of how much money is given to these wankers. I just wish we had some way to hold them accountable for their actions/lies/deceit.

As far as arguing with these fecal ejects, I expect a troll, with evidence links attached, might be all we really need to put out there. Trolls have infinite patience,,,(Hey. Trolls can also be good. Not all of them eat children.)

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59. daffy.</p>
<p>Good point. Sociopaths milk the uninformed as much as they can. Is it any wonder there are so many of the latter who have little in the way of resources? It appalls me when I think of how much money is given to these wankers. I just wish we had some way to hold them accountable for their actions/lies/deceit.</p>
<p>As far as arguing with these fecal ejects, I expect a troll, with evidence links attached, might be all we really need to put out there. Trolls have infinite patience,,,(Hey. Trolls can also be good. Not all of them eat children.)</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Daffy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228352</link>
		<dc:creator>Daffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked in the religious broadcasting industry (when I was VERY hungry), I think it likely you are all misunderstanding this man. I would bet money he is no more a believing Christian than you or I; what I suspect he really is is a man who has found out how easy it is to bilk money out of the faithful.

I knew a LOT of these people, and, to a man, they were (privately), utterly without any sort of religious faith at all. But they were very good at entertaining the sheep; they could generate massive &quot;love offerings.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked in the religious broadcasting industry (when I was VERY hungry), I think it likely you are all misunderstanding this man. I would bet money he is no more a believing Christian than you or I; what I suspect he really is is a man who has found out how easy it is to bilk money out of the faithful.</p>
<p>I knew a LOT of these people, and, to a man, they were (privately), utterly without any sort of religious faith at all. But they were very good at entertaining the sheep; they could generate massive &#8220;love offerings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>StevoR (42) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In that one, the Terminator – T-1000 to be precise – played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

On my DVDs, Arnie was a Cyberdyne Systems model T-101 in that film and Terminator 2.  The T-1000 was the mimetic polyalloy terminator in T-2.  For some strange reason, in the latest film and in the TV series, the Arnie-style terminators (i.e. those with no special schticks like the T-1000 or the T-X from the third film) were described as T-888s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StevoR (42) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>In that one, the Terminator – T-1000 to be precise – played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination! </p></blockquote>
<p>On my DVDs, Arnie was a Cyberdyne Systems model T-101 in that film and Terminator 2.  The T-1000 was the mimetic polyalloy terminator in T-2.  For some strange reason, in the latest film and in the TV series, the Arnie-style terminators (i.e. those with no special schticks like the T-1000 or the T-X from the third film) were described as T-888s.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that wonderful speech about the difference between nerds and geeks?  I think the discussion about the model of Terminator kind of proves his point doesn&#039;t it.  Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that wonderful speech about the difference between nerds and geeks?  I think the discussion about the model of Terminator kind of proves his point doesn&#8217;t it.  Rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that  &quot;Calling them stupid won’t help either.&quot; 

So perhaps you should re-think that &quot;The Stupid, it burns!&quot; graphic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that  &#8220;Calling them stupid won’t help either.&#8221; </p>
<p>So perhaps you should re-think that &#8220;The Stupid, it burns!&#8221; graphic?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228334</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice reference to Dr. John Snow&#039;s pioneering efforts in epidemiology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reference to Dr. John Snow&#8217;s pioneering efforts in epidemiology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jermaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jermaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if anyone is really interested in this kind of discussion, Stefan Molyneaux does a great job going through it in detail with amazing discussions in podcast form over at freedomainradio.com

I don&#039;t have any specific podcasts in mind, but he has a category filter for his podcasts I&#039;m sure they&#039;re all winners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if anyone is really interested in this kind of discussion, Stefan Molyneaux does a great job going through it in detail with amazing discussions in podcast form over at freedomainradio.com</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any specific podcasts in mind, but he has a category filter for his podcasts I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re all winners.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228330</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Steve in Dublin.

Thanks. 

I guess I had a brain fart when I posted. I meant to say &#039;True Christians&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Steve in Dublin.</p>
<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>I guess I had a brain fart when I posted. I meant to say &#8216;True Christians&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Dublin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/11/27/the-comfort-of-untruth/comment-page-2/#comment-228327</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Dublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TechyDad #29

Excellent deconstruction of the situation we find ourselves in :-\

@ChuckP #16

&lt;i&gt;Ray Comfort &lt;strike&gt;doesn’t&lt;/strike&gt; consider&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt; Catholics to be ‘False Christians’, and lumps the Pope into the same group as atheists, agnostics, and everyone else who doesn’t believe the exact same things he believes.&lt;/i&gt;

Fixed that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TechyDad #29</p>
<p>Excellent deconstruction of the situation we find ourselves in :-\</p>
<p>@ChuckP #16</p>
<p><i>Ray Comfort <strike>doesn’t</strike> consider<b>s</b> Catholics to be ‘False Christians’, and lumps the Pope into the same group as atheists, agnostics, and everyone else who doesn’t believe the exact same things he believes.</i></p>
<p>Fixed that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFxn6sBveN0</description>
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		<title>By: CafeenMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CafeenMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  Yes, I said, &quot;Mr. Terminator&quot; so yeah, I screwed up.  Sorry if I ruined anyone&#039;s day or life. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  Yes, I said, &#8220;Mr. Terminator&#8221; so yeah, I screwed up.  Sorry if I ruined anyone&#8217;s day or life. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CafeenMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CafeenMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 43. Carl Says:

I didn&#039;t remember the quote exactly so I looked it up.  I didn&#039;t post Kyle Reese because I thought it would be too obscure (nobody would know who it was).  So I just use &quot;The Terminator&quot; meaning a quote from the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 43. Carl Says:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t remember the quote exactly so I looked it up.  I didn&#8217;t post Kyle Reese because I thought it would be too obscure (nobody would know who it was).  So I just use &#8220;The Terminator&#8221; meaning a quote from the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet Twarog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chet Twarog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning this and religion, try out the satirical and fun (and sometimes annoying) website www.mrdeity.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning this and religion, try out the satirical and fun (and sometimes annoying) website <a href="http://www.mrdeity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mrdeity.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they used the name inconsistently, so T-101 was used at some points.</description>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In that one, the Terminator – T-1000 to be precise – played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The T-1000 was the liquid metal one from Terminator 2, the Schwarzenegger type is the T-101, I believe.

Edit: I was wrong, he was a T-800 model 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In that one, the Terminator – T-1000 to be precise – played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination!</p></blockquote>
<p>The T-1000 was the liquid metal one from Terminator 2, the Schwarzenegger type is the T-101, I believe.</p>
<p>Edit: I was wrong, he was a T-800 model 101.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 43.   Carl Says: 

&lt;i&gt;That was CafeenMan’s point, wasn’t it? That Phil Plait’s description of Ray Comfort (actually, “the forces of ignorance” in general) sounds quite like Kyle Reese’s description of the Terminator. &lt;/i&gt;

Sure. No dispute from me there. :-)

I was just pointing out that CafeenMan was saying &quot;the Terminator said it&quot; when it was really Kyle Reese (played by Michael Biehn)  he was quoting that&#039;s all. 

One of my favourite movies that I grew up with so .. just thought I&#039;d chip in with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 43.   Carl Says: </p>
<p><i>That was CafeenMan’s point, wasn’t it? That Phil Plait’s description of Ray Comfort (actually, “the forces of ignorance” in general) sounds quite like Kyle Reese’s description of the Terminator. </i></p>
<p>Sure. No dispute from me there. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was just pointing out that CafeenMan was saying &#8220;the Terminator said it&#8221; when it was really Kyle Reese (played by Michael Biehn)  he was quoting that&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>One of my favourite movies that I grew up with so .. just thought I&#8217;d chip in with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrolonfire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrolonfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You cannot use rational debate with these people. It simply cannot work.&lt;/i&gt;

Or &quot;Never try to teach a pig to sing. It only wastes your time and annoys the pig.&quot; ;-)

&lt;i&gt; O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist to play the evil Terminator but Cameron did not think that “such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer”. &lt;/i&gt; 

[Comic Book Guy voice on] Worst character misjudgement ever! ;-) [/Comic Book Guy voice off.] 

Has Ray Comfort slipped on his banana peel yet? ;-) 

I don&#039;t know what&#039;s sillier the fact that this nutjob thought banana&#039;s disprove evolution in the first place or the fact that he still thinks people are laughing *with* him not *at* him and keeps defedning the indefensible. Also dunno whether its more comical or tragic that a ... tosspot ... like Comfort can exist in this day &amp; age &amp;  get even such a small and foolish following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You cannot use rational debate with these people. It simply cannot work.</i></p>
<p>Or &#8220;Never try to teach a pig to sing. It only wastes your time and annoys the pig.&#8221; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i> O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist to play the evil Terminator but Cameron did not think that “such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer”. </i> </p>
<p>[Comic Book Guy voice on] Worst character misjudgement ever! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  [/Comic Book Guy voice off.] </p>
<p>Has Ray Comfort slipped on his banana peel yet? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s sillier the fact that this nutjob thought banana&#8217;s disprove evolution in the first place or the fact that he still thinks people are laughing *with* him not *at* him and keeps defedning the indefensible. Also dunno whether its more comical or tragic that a &#8230; tosspot &#8230; like Comfort can exist in this day &#038; age &#038;  get even such a small and foolish following.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was CafeenMan&#039;s point, wasn&#039;t it?  That Phil Plait&#039;s description of Ray Comfort (actually, &quot;the forces of ignorance&quot; in general) sounds quite like Kyle Reese&#039;s description of the Terminator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was CafeenMan&#8217;s point, wasn&#8217;t it?  That Phil Plait&#8217;s description of Ray Comfort (actually, &#8220;the forces of ignorance&#8221; in general) sounds quite like Kyle Reese&#8217;s description of the Terminator.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 10.   CafeenMan Says: 

&lt;i&gt;Mr. Comfort sounds like &lt;b&gt;The Terminator:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;“They never rest, they never tire, and they never go away. ”

&lt;i&gt;and &lt;b&gt;Mr. Terminator:&lt;/b&gt;

“Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.” &lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I think  that was Kyle Reese, John Connor&#039;s father &amp; teenage Sarah Connor&#039;s rescuer who said those lines in the first Terminator movie. ;-) 

In that one, the Terminator - T-1000 to be precise - played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination! 

Great quote &amp; movie choice but!  8)

Of course, I could be wrong .. 

**** 
See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator  

BTW.  Apparently O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist to play the evil Terminator but Cameron did not think that &quot;such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer&quot;. Hah!  ;-)

PS. Terminators are actually entirely real - there&#039;s one on every planet and moon! The terminator is the line between darkness and light itseparates the illuminated and shadowed parts of each planet aka day and night.  We see and pass across a terminator with every sunrise and sunset! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 10.   CafeenMan Says: </p>
<p><i>Mr. Comfort sounds like <b>The Terminator:</b></p>
<p></i><i>“They never rest, they never tire, and they never go away. ”</p>
<p></i><i>and <b>Mr. Terminator:</b></p>
<p>“Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.” </i></p>
<p>Actually, I think  that was Kyle Reese, John Connor&#8217;s father &#038; teenage Sarah Connor&#8217;s rescuer who said those lines in the first Terminator movie. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>In that one, the Terminator &#8211; T-1000 to be precise &#8211; played by Arnie Schwarzenegger was the bad guy out to kill Sarah and prevent her having her kid and Kyle was sent back by John Connor to save his Mum from retroactive assassination! </p>
<p>Great quote &#038; movie choice but!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, I could be wrong .. </p>
<p>****<br />
See : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator</a>  </p>
<p>BTW.  Apparently O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist to play the evil Terminator but Cameron did not think that &#8220;such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer&#8221;. Hah!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS. Terminators are actually entirely real &#8211; there&#8217;s one on every planet and moon! The terminator is the line between darkness and light itseparates the illuminated and shadowed parts of each planet aka day and night.  We see and pass across a terminator with every sunrise and sunset! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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