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		<title>By: Alareth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212097</link>
		<dc:creator>Alareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Larian LaQuella

&quot;Didn’t a national magazine or news outlet rate the whole anti-vax pro-disease nutters as the worst idea of 2009?&quot;

I was the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Larian LaQuella</p>
<p>&#8220;Didn’t a national magazine or news outlet rate the whole anti-vax pro-disease nutters as the worst idea of 2009?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was the Washington Post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Orlinsky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212096</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Orlinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have relatives in Canada.  They were given an appt. time to show up for the H1N1 vaccine.  When their scheduled time came, *months ago*, they went in and got the shot, no fuss, no waiting.

Me, I called around all the local clinics for months.  &#039;Maybe next week?&#039;  &#039;We should have it at the end of the month.&#039; &#039;I&#039;m not sure if we&#039;re getting it.&#039;  We finally all got *yesterday*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have relatives in Canada.  They were given an appt. time to show up for the H1N1 vaccine.  When their scheduled time came, *months ago*, they went in and got the shot, no fuss, no waiting.</p>
<p>Me, I called around all the local clinics for months.  &#8216;Maybe next week?&#8217;  &#8216;We should have it at the end of the month.&#8217; &#8216;I&#8217;m not sure if we&#8217;re getting it.&#8217;  We finally all got *yesterday*.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottynuke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212095</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottynuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to see an &quot;Australasian College of Natural Therapies&quot; ad on the page for the AVN article...  *SIGH*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to see an &#8220;Australasian College of Natural Therapies&#8221; ad on the page for the AVN article&#8230;  *SIGH*</p>
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		<title>By: QuietDesperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212094</link>
		<dc:creator>QuietDesperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, have you looked into Louis Farrakhan&#039;s stance? He claims the H1N1 vaccine is actually a &quot;soft kill weapon&quot; designed to reduce global population.

Hey, don&#039;t look at me. I just reports them, not explain them. If pressed, my preliminary analysis would be &quot;he crazy.&quot;

Just google Farrakhan and vaccine and you&#039;ll get a bevy of hits.

&lt;i&gt;Odd, up here in Canuckistan I got my H1N1 shot nearly a month ago. &lt;/i&gt;

Nice knowing ya! ;-)

Re tuna: I like tuna. I can eat it right from the can. Good for Omega-3s. Get the water packed as the oil packed can take out some of the O3s. Pacific Albacore is the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, have you looked into Louis Farrakhan&#8217;s stance? He claims the H1N1 vaccine is actually a &#8220;soft kill weapon&#8221; designed to reduce global population.</p>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t look at me. I just reports them, not explain them. If pressed, my preliminary analysis would be &#8220;he crazy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just google Farrakhan and vaccine and you&#8217;ll get a bevy of hits.</p>
<p><i>Odd, up here in Canuckistan I got my H1N1 shot nearly a month ago. </i></p>
<p>Nice knowing ya! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Re tuna: I like tuna. I can eat it right from the can. Good for Omega-3s. Get the water packed as the oil packed can take out some of the O3s. Pacific Albacore is the best.</p>
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		<title>By: HJ Hornbeck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212093</link>
		<dc:creator>HJ Hornbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, up here in Canuckistan I got my H1N1 shot nearly a month ago. That was over a month after they made the shot available to high-risk groups &quot;only&quot; (the air-quotes are because my province screwed the pooch on that one). There was no line-up, and my arm was sore for just a few hours! Things went so smoothly, I returned two weeks later for my first seasonal flu shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, up here in Canuckistan I got my H1N1 shot nearly a month ago. That was over a month after they made the shot available to high-risk groups &#8220;only&#8221; (the air-quotes are because my province screwed the pooch on that one). There was no line-up, and my arm was sore for just a few hours! Things went so smoothly, I returned two weeks later for my first seasonal flu shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Orlinsky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212092</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Orlinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also remember a report which stated that autistic kids had much lower mercury levels than their agemates, probably because they were pickier and didn&#039;t eat as much tuna. If you account for the tuna, all the kids had the same mercury levels.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091019162914.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also remember a report which stated that autistic kids had much lower mercury levels than their agemates, probably because they were pickier and didn&#8217;t eat as much tuna. If you account for the tuna, all the kids had the same mercury levels.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091019162914.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091019162914.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Paradox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212091</link>
		<dc:creator>John Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;9.   John Says:

My doctor pointed out that if you eat a certain number of tuna fish sandwiches each week you could get about the same amount of Mercury as an old fashioned flu shot. So… where are all the tuna sandwich deniers? Where is the tuna fish sandwich cheerleader video?
&lt;/I&gt;

Charlie the Tuna must have a bad PR man.

J/P=?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>9.   John Says:</p>
<p>My doctor pointed out that if you eat a certain number of tuna fish sandwiches each week you could get about the same amount of Mercury as an old fashioned flu shot. So… where are all the tuna sandwich deniers? Where is the tuna fish sandwich cheerleader video?<br />
</i></p>
<p>Charlie the Tuna must have a bad PR man.</p>
<p>J/P=?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Orlinsky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212090</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Orlinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Steve in Dublin.  I think it&#039;s highly significant that, when examined with today&#039;s eyes, all age groups have the same incidence of autism.  That strongly suggests that any increase in younger populations is due to reporting and diagnosing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve in Dublin.  I think it&#8217;s highly significant that, when examined with today&#8217;s eyes, all age groups have the same incidence of autism.  That strongly suggests that any increase in younger populations is due to reporting and diagnosing.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212089</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My doctor pointed out that if you eat a certain number of tuna fish sandwiches each week you could get about the same amount of Mercury as an old fashioned flu shot. So... where are all the tuna sandwich deniers? Where is the tuna fish sandwich cheerleader video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My doctor pointed out that if you eat a certain number of tuna fish sandwiches each week you could get about the same amount of Mercury as an old fashioned flu shot. So&#8230; where are all the tuna sandwich deniers? Where is the tuna fish sandwich cheerleader video?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Dublin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/21/some-antiscience-updates/#comment-212088</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Dublin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article on the NeroLogica blog that the BA linked to, two telling bits of info. First, in the conclusion of the article:

&lt;i&gt;The fact that older age groups also have about a 1% prevalence strongly suggests that any real increase in ASD must be small.&lt;/i&gt;

And then, from the comments:

&lt;i&gt;It’s worth pointing out the obvious, namely that there has been no decrease – although Thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines in 2001. Remember when David Kirby said this:

&quot;Because autism is usually diagnosed sometime between a child’s third and fourth birthdays and thimerosal was largely removed from childhood vaccines in 2001, the incidence of autism should fall this year.&quot;

I do. It was in 2005 -- Skeptico&lt;/i&gt;

If I was a betting person, my money would be on the increased surveillance coupled with the broadening of the diagnosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article on the NeroLogica blog that the BA linked to, two telling bits of info. First, in the conclusion of the article:</p>
<p><i>The fact that older age groups also have about a 1% prevalence strongly suggests that any real increase in ASD must be small.</i></p>
<p>And then, from the comments:</p>
<p><i>It’s worth pointing out the obvious, namely that there has been no decrease – although Thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines in 2001. Remember when David Kirby said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Because autism is usually diagnosed sometime between a child’s third and fourth birthdays and thimerosal was largely removed from childhood vaccines in 2001, the incidence of autism should fall this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do. It was in 2005 &#8212; Skeptico</i></p>
<p>If I was a betting person, my money would be on the increased surveillance coupled with the broadening of the diagnosis.</p>
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