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	<title>Comments on: Mile High Caturday</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical guard cat chasing a bear away:
http://www.jaggle.nl/index.php/media/item/lief_poesje_verjaagt_stoute_beer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical guard cat chasing a bear away:<br />
<a href="http://www.jaggle.nl/index.php/media/item/lief_poesje_verjaagt_stoute_beer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaggle.nl/index.php/media/item/lief_poesje_verjaagt_stoute_beer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Lassam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Top 5 - January 18, 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Lassam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Top 5 - January 18, 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Discover blogger finds a cat in a stadium. And kittens! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: another mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>another mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS8Mg-JWSg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;What&lt;/i&gt;... is your name?&lt;/a&gt; (Admit it; it was your first thought, too.)

There&#039;s no outdoor cats in my neighborhood; the coyotes keep eating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS8Mg-JWSg" rel="nofollow"><i>What</i>&#8230; is your name?</a> (Admit it; it was your first thought, too.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no outdoor cats in my neighborhood; the coyotes keep eating them.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kinzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kinzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harsh as it is, I think euthanizing many of them is the only answer.  Shelters have to destroy many of their animals already, I know, even adoptable ones; but I cannot think of other workable solutions for this growing problem.  I agree that TNR may work where there is clearly not a conflict with native wildlife, but it cannot be the total answer.

Personally, I think euthanasia is more humane than leaving them to live the brutal, short lives that most of them do.  They are preyed on by other animals, and often suffer from disease.  

If they were native, I&#039;d say that&#039;s just the way of nature.  But they are not native, and their destruction of native species is a definite problem.  I feel the same way about other invasive species as well, whether it&#039;s Asian carp, feral pigs, or feral dogs.  I realize that many people don&#039;t agree.  many think that killing any animal, for any reason, is wrong.  I sympathize, but don&#039;t agree; especially when entire species are at stake.  

I also think there should be stiff fines for people who knowingly release any non-native species into the wild; and more effort should be made to prevent accidental release as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harsh as it is, I think euthanizing many of them is the only answer.  Shelters have to destroy many of their animals already, I know, even adoptable ones; but I cannot think of other workable solutions for this growing problem.  I agree that TNR may work where there is clearly not a conflict with native wildlife, but it cannot be the total answer.</p>
<p>Personally, I think euthanasia is more humane than leaving them to live the brutal, short lives that most of them do.  They are preyed on by other animals, and often suffer from disease.  </p>
<p>If they were native, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s just the way of nature.  But they are not native, and their destruction of native species is a definite problem.  I feel the same way about other invasive species as well, whether it&#8217;s Asian carp, feral pigs, or feral dogs.  I realize that many people don&#8217;t agree.  many think that killing any animal, for any reason, is wrong.  I sympathize, but don&#8217;t agree; especially when entire species are at stake.  </p>
<p>I also think there should be stiff fines for people who knowingly release any non-native species into the wild; and more effort should be made to prevent accidental release as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with attempting to find homes for all feral cats is that there simply aren&#039;t enough homes.  Not NEARLY enough.  There aren&#039;t even enough homes for the TAME cats that come into shelters. 

I am curious Paul, what do you see as the solution?  I see a few options, please tell me if there are more.  One option is spay/neuter and release.  Another is euthanizing a majority of feral cats in this country.

I prefer TNR myself, especially in environments (like a stadium, or a farm) where the cats are serving a purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with attempting to find homes for all feral cats is that there simply aren&#8217;t enough homes.  Not NEARLY enough.  There aren&#8217;t even enough homes for the TAME cats that come into shelters. </p>
<p>I am curious Paul, what do you see as the solution?  I see a few options, please tell me if there are more.  One option is spay/neuter and release.  Another is euthanizing a majority of feral cats in this country.</p>
<p>I prefer TNR myself, especially in environments (like a stadium, or a farm) where the cats are serving a purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kinzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kinzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sgiffy #24

I agree, and I don&#039;t really have a problem with these particular cats.  But many of the comments suggest that all feral cats should be left alone, or helped through trapping, neutering , and releasing.  There are just too many of them out there to use that as a solution to the problems they&#039;re causing.

As I said, I love cats.  But, IMHO, 70,000,000 of them, living the lives that so many of them do, is too many.</description>
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<p>I agree, and I don&#8217;t really have a problem with these particular cats.  But many of the comments suggest that all feral cats should be left alone, or helped through trapping, neutering , and releasing.  There are just too many of them out there to use that as a solution to the problems they&#8217;re causing.</p>
<p>As I said, I love cats.  But, IMHO, 70,000,000 of them, living the lives that so many of them do, is too many.</p>
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		<title>By: sgiffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgiffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@22 Stadiums are not part of the natural environment either. 

The idea of having cats in a building in order to control pests is not really all that new and is a big reason why we even have domesticated cats. 

These cats are no different from barn cats of yore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22 Stadiums are not part of the natural environment either. </p>
<p>The idea of having cats in a building in order to control pests is not really all that new and is a big reason why we even have domesticated cats. </p>
<p>These cats are no different from barn cats of yore.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kinzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kinzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should have said &#039;1 billion small mammals PER YEAR&#039;...</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Kinzer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/01/16/mile-high-caturday/comment-page-1/#comment-239708</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kinzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feral cats are not a part of the native landscape.  They eat birds, small mammals, and other creatures that are.  In some places, these animals they eat are endangered or threatened.  These particular cats are probably not going to be eating endangered species, but they still don&#039;t belong where they are. 

Do a Wikipedia search for &#039;feral cat&#039;, and you&#039;ll find some sad statistics (I know Wikipedia is not always reliable, but look to the citation links if you don&#039;t trust this information):

--According to the article linked to in reference 12 of the Wikipedia entry, &quot;U.S. Faces Growing Feral Cat Problem&quot;, there may be as many as 70 million feral cats in the USA, and they may kill up to 1 billion (1 BILLION) small mammals.  Yes, some of these animals they eat may be considered &#039;pests&#039;, but not all of them are, and there are native predators available to remove them.  The feral cats themselves, cute as they may be, have become pests.

-- Feral cats also kill up to 100 million bids a year in North America alone.  

--Feral cats have an average life span of two years (five in &#039;managed colonies&#039;); compared to a dozen or more for domestic cats, especially those kept inside.

--They may pose a disease threat to other animals, both domestic and wild, including humans.

The exact numbers may be debatable, but I don&#039;t think it can be argued that feral cats are not a problem, even if they are trapped, neutered, and released.  Nature IS red in tooth and claw, and the life of feral cats cannot be as pleasant as that of a cat kept inside.  The lives they take are often from species that cannot handle any more threats.

I love cats, but I think house cats belong in houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feral cats are not a part of the native landscape.  They eat birds, small mammals, and other creatures that are.  In some places, these animals they eat are endangered or threatened.  These particular cats are probably not going to be eating endangered species, but they still don&#8217;t belong where they are. </p>
<p>Do a Wikipedia search for &#8216;feral cat&#8217;, and you&#8217;ll find some sad statistics (I know Wikipedia is not always reliable, but look to the citation links if you don&#8217;t trust this information):</p>
<p>&#8211;According to the article linked to in reference 12 of the Wikipedia entry, &#8220;U.S. Faces Growing Feral Cat Problem&#8221;, there may be as many as 70 million feral cats in the USA, and they may kill up to 1 billion (1 BILLION) small mammals.  Yes, some of these animals they eat may be considered &#8216;pests&#8217;, but not all of them are, and there are native predators available to remove them.  The feral cats themselves, cute as they may be, have become pests.</p>
<p>&#8211; Feral cats also kill up to 100 million bids a year in North America alone.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Feral cats have an average life span of two years (five in &#8216;managed colonies&#8217;); compared to a dozen or more for domestic cats, especially those kept inside.</p>
<p>&#8211;They may pose a disease threat to other animals, both domestic and wild, including humans.</p>
<p>The exact numbers may be debatable, but I don&#8217;t think it can be argued that feral cats are not a problem, even if they are trapped, neutered, and released.  Nature IS red in tooth and claw, and the life of feral cats cannot be as pleasant as that of a cat kept inside.  The lives they take are often from species that cannot handle any more threats.</p>
<p>I love cats, but I think house cats belong in houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vote for trap/neuter/release!</description>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to agree with Karen here - Trap, Neuter, Release!  I wish more people would understand that overpopulation is a huge issue (my area they actually started discussing hunting feral cats because the problem is really bad), and finding homes for cats is often not an option since there are far more cats than homes for them.  Spaying/neutering cats in in a place like this stadium, then putting them back where they came from is a good option, and tends to work pretty well.  It needs to be done early too - it&#039;s amazing how young kittens can get pregnant/impregnate each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to agree with Karen here &#8211; Trap, Neuter, Release!  I wish more people would understand that overpopulation is a huge issue (my area they actually started discussing hunting feral cats because the problem is really bad), and finding homes for cats is often not an option since there are far more cats than homes for them.  Spaying/neutering cats in in a place like this stadium, then putting them back where they came from is a good option, and tends to work pretty well.  It needs to be done early too &#8211; it&#8217;s amazing how young kittens can get pregnant/impregnate each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire cat family was an ideal group of candidates for TNR (trap, neuter, release).  There&#039;s undoubtedly some TNR organization in the area.  This allows the cats to grow up feral but not to keep on reproducing at the insane rate that feral cats can accomplish, and become helpful rat/mouse/pest hunters in the local environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire cat family was an ideal group of candidates for TNR (trap, neuter, release).  There&#8217;s undoubtedly some TNR organization in the area.  This allows the cats to grow up feral but not to keep on reproducing at the insane rate that feral cats can accomplish, and become helpful rat/mouse/pest hunters in the local environment.</p>
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		<title>By: fred edison</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer my cats to not eat rodents for obvious reasons, and to absolutely not eat people food unless it&#039;s also cat healthy food.  Cats are awesome creatures who are friendly and loving if they haven&#039;t been subjected to a difficult life of survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer my cats to not eat rodents for obvious reasons, and to absolutely not eat people food unless it&#8217;s also cat healthy food.  Cats are awesome creatures who are friendly and loving if they haven&#8217;t been subjected to a difficult life of survival.</p>
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		<title>By: Nurse Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nurse Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww ... the cuteness just caused my head to &#039;splode!</description>
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		<title>By: John Paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;8.   Kris Says:

I just had to convince someone to put a cat back last month because they insisted it was “abandoned”, when all signs pointed to it being somebody’s outdoor cat trying to get a treat from passing humans.&lt;/I&gt;

Thank you.  My family (me) was, long ago and far away, almost the victim of an overzealous &#039;catter&#039;.  He was an outdoor cat who apparently survived being on an engine when it started (even making it to the attic/crawlspace with a dislocated shoulder and lots of injuries).  
This was another time, when he went missing for several days (a day or so is always, with cats, a given).  Finally we discovered some passing girl had &#039;found&#039; him, and taken him home.  He was apparently kept inside, or he would have returned to us by himself.

J/P=?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>8.   Kris Says:</p>
<p>I just had to convince someone to put a cat back last month because they insisted it was “abandoned”, when all signs pointed to it being somebody’s outdoor cat trying to get a treat from passing humans.</i></p>
<p>Thank you.  My family (me) was, long ago and far away, almost the victim of an overzealous &#8216;catter&#8217;.  He was an outdoor cat who apparently survived being on an engine when it started (even making it to the attic/crawlspace with a dislocated shoulder and lots of injuries).<br />
This was another time, when he went missing for several days (a day or so is always, with cats, a given).  Finally we discovered some passing girl had &#8216;found&#8217; him, and taken him home.  He was apparently kept inside, or he would have returned to us by himself.</p>
<p>J/P=?</p>
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		<title>By: Elin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jewel, your science kitty is 100% win. 
What did we ever do before icanhazcheezburger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewel, your science kitty is 100% win.<br />
What did we ever do before icanhazcheezburger?</p>
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		<title>By: Marguerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the crew were good homes then that would have been preferable to leaving them there where they would grow up feral and reproduce more kittens until there isn’t enough food, or the stadium owners/managers decide to remove them.
Being a long time pet owner, cats do respond well to a loving home, just the same as dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the crew were good homes then that would have been preferable to leaving them there where they would grow up feral and reproduce more kittens until there isn’t enough food, or the stadium owners/managers decide to remove them.<br />
Being a long time pet owner, cats do respond well to a loving home, just the same as dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6: I don&#039;t mean to come across as judgemental or anything, but ... that&#039;s not normal. Maybe you should consider changing your Ob/Gyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6: I don&#8217;t mean to come across as judgemental or anything, but &#8230; that&#8217;s not normal. Maybe you should consider changing your Ob/Gyn.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have three indoor cats, two boys and a girl, all neutered and loved.

About the Mile High cats: if those cats are truly wild, the best thing to do might be to catch and neuter them, give them collars with cat tags, and let them go at the stadium again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have three indoor cats, two boys and a girl, all neutered and loved.</p>
<p>About the Mile High cats: if those cats are truly wild, the best thing to do might be to catch and neuter them, give them collars with cat tags, and let them go at the stadium again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for leaving the cats there. If there&#039;s food and plenty of shelter, you&#039;ll just be making them miserable putting them into an already overcrowded shelter.

I just had to convince someone to put a cat back last month because they insisted it was &quot;abandoned&quot;, when all signs pointed to it being somebody&#039;s outdoor cat trying to get a treat from passing humans.

Cats aren&#039;t humans. They don&#039;t care about the difference between a &quot;real house&quot; and an outdoor house with shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for leaving the cats there. If there&#8217;s food and plenty of shelter, you&#8217;ll just be making them miserable putting them into an already overcrowded shelter.</p>
<p>I just had to convince someone to put a cat back last month because they insisted it was &#8220;abandoned&#8221;, when all signs pointed to it being somebody&#8217;s outdoor cat trying to get a treat from passing humans.</p>
<p>Cats aren&#8217;t humans. They don&#8217;t care about the difference between a &#8220;real house&#8221; and an outdoor house with shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: ChazInMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChazInMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This illustrating scale sizes is a real passion of mine. As an active amateur astronomer myself, I love talking with people about the relative sizes of things. Most people haven&#039;t a clue in this regard and TV does not help 1 bit. It seems every video illustration of our solar system is grossly out of proportion.  

Anyway, I&#039;m just hoping like heck you have not contributed to these misconceptions. Mile high stadium would be a bit too small of a venue to do a good illustration all the way out to Pluto. By my estimation, if you put the sun under the scoreboard and Pluto on the upper seats all the way across to the area above the opposite endzone (270 Yds er so), the Sun should be a baseball sized thing (Yellow paint optional) and Pluto would have to be an imaginary speck because Pluto is smaller than 1/20th of a millimeter in diameter at this scale. Earth would be smaller than a 1 mm sphere and be about 27 feet away.

I use the &quot;Earth as a Peppercorn&quot; model and have found beads the appropriate diameter to represent the planets. The sun is a bowling ball (Painted Yellow) at the Peppercorn scale.

My only use for a sports stadium is to tell people that if we crushed all the atoms on earth together so the space between the electrons was gone, (essentially a small neutron star) the earth would fit into a football stadium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This illustrating scale sizes is a real passion of mine. As an active amateur astronomer myself, I love talking with people about the relative sizes of things. Most people haven&#8217;t a clue in this regard and TV does not help 1 bit. It seems every video illustration of our solar system is grossly out of proportion.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m just hoping like heck you have not contributed to these misconceptions. Mile high stadium would be a bit too small of a venue to do a good illustration all the way out to Pluto. By my estimation, if you put the sun under the scoreboard and Pluto on the upper seats all the way across to the area above the opposite endzone (270 Yds er so), the Sun should be a baseball sized thing (Yellow paint optional) and Pluto would have to be an imaginary speck because Pluto is smaller than 1/20th of a millimeter in diameter at this scale. Earth would be smaller than a 1 mm sphere and be about 27 feet away.</p>
<p>I use the &#8220;Earth as a Peppercorn&#8221; model and have found beads the appropriate diameter to represent the planets. The sun is a bowling ball (Painted Yellow) at the Peppercorn scale.</p>
<p>My only use for a sports stadium is to tell people that if we crushed all the atoms on earth together so the space between the electrons was gone, (essentially a small neutron star) the earth would fit into a football stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait until I have kitties again.  Very cute.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait until I have kitties again.  Very cute.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mama Guard Cat probably plays better defense than the post-bye-week Broncos this year.</description>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re so cute... but they&#039;ve probably grown up feral as opposed to loved and taken care of in somebody&#039;s home.  We have four cats at Casa Spacewriter -- all rescues. One of them was nearly feral when we got her; she&#039;s never lost her initial distrust of humans, even though she&#039;s been with us for 12 years now and taken care of nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re so cute&#8230; but they&#8217;ve probably grown up feral as opposed to loved and taken care of in somebody&#8217;s home.  We have four cats at Casa Spacewriter &#8212; all rescues. One of them was nearly feral when we got her; she&#8217;s never lost her initial distrust of humans, even though she&#8217;s been with us for 12 years now and taken care of nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katharine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They has lots of cheezburger.</description>
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