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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: James Harmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-352014</link>
		<dc:creator>James Harmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keiko, the amount of geologic activity that a body posesses is directly proportional to it&#039;s size. The bigger it is, the more heat from radioactive decay is trapped inside by the insulating bulk of it&#039;s own mass. This causes more vulcanisim which resurfaces the exterior and so fills in  craters. Because Earth has an atmosphere and liquid water it also has plate tectonics which continualy recycles the surface, again removing craters.
You are correct in thinking that most craters were formed long ago. The early Solar System had a lot more rubble and debris floating around than it does now and impacts were more common. This culminated in a period called the Late Heavy Bombardment, about 4.1 to 3.8 billion years ago, during which the inner planets were extensively pummeled until things quietened down to the more peaceful conditions we enjoy today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keiko, the amount of geologic activity that a body posesses is directly proportional to it&#8217;s size. The bigger it is, the more heat from radioactive decay is trapped inside by the insulating bulk of it&#8217;s own mass. This causes more vulcanisim which resurfaces the exterior and so fills in  craters. Because Earth has an atmosphere and liquid water it also has plate tectonics which continualy recycles the surface, again removing craters.<br />
You are correct in thinking that most craters were formed long ago. The early Solar System had a lot more rubble and debris floating around than it does now and impacts were more common. This culminated in a period called the Late Heavy Bombardment, about 4.1 to 3.8 billion years ago, during which the inner planets were extensively pummeled until things quietened down to the more peaceful conditions we enjoy today.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>davem @34 wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Is it possible that the multiple parallel trails are the traces of objects formerly lying on the moon’s surface, that have all been disturbed simultaneously by the moon colliding with something? Then BigBob’s theory looks a goodun’, and explains why thre are so many trails. The chance of them all being the result of oblique collisions is close to nil, given that all other objects seeem to have hit smack on.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m sorry for the delay davem and you probably won&#039;t read this but it&#039;s just occurred to me that there&#039;s a factor you may be unaware of.
Phobos (and as it happens Deimos too) is tidally locked with Mars, that is to say it always shows the same &#039;side&#039; to Mars just as our Moon always shows the same &#039;side&#039; to the Earth.  So tidally locked moons rotate once on their axis for each orbit around their planet.  That means Phobos has a leading face and a trailing face as it orbits Mars.  So if the current theory about the grooves being caused by debris thrown up from massive impacts on Mars is correct, that explains why the many grooves are in parallel.  The rocks that drew the lines would not have had to arrive all at the same time.  Even if Phobos encountered a rock in its path today, it would still roll the rock along its flank and the groove that it made would be in parallel with hundreds of existing grooves.  The fact that there are other &#039;families&#039; of grooves on Phobos suggests that it used to be oriented differently, when its leading &#039;face&#039; was not that part of the surface that leads today.
Bob(Big)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davem @34 wrote:</p>
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Is it possible that the multiple parallel trails are the traces of objects formerly lying on the moon’s surface, that have all been disturbed simultaneously by the moon colliding with something? Then BigBob’s theory looks a goodun’, and explains why thre are so many trails. The chance of them all being the result of oblique collisions is close to nil, given that all other objects seeem to have hit smack on.
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<p>I&#8217;m sorry for the delay davem and you probably won&#8217;t read this but it&#8217;s just occurred to me that there&#8217;s a factor you may be unaware of.<br />
Phobos (and as it happens Deimos too) is tidally locked with Mars, that is to say it always shows the same &#8216;side&#8217; to Mars just as our Moon always shows the same &#8216;side&#8217; to the Earth.  So tidally locked moons rotate once on their axis for each orbit around their planet.  That means Phobos has a leading face and a trailing face as it orbits Mars.  So if the current theory about the grooves being caused by debris thrown up from massive impacts on Mars is correct, that explains why the many grooves are in parallel.  The rocks that drew the lines would not have had to arrive all at the same time.  Even if Phobos encountered a rock in its path today, it would still roll the rock along its flank and the groove that it made would be in parallel with hundreds of existing grooves.  The fact that there are other &#8216;families&#8217; of grooves on Phobos suggests that it used to be oriented differently, when its leading &#8216;face&#8217; was not that part of the surface that leads today.<br />
Bob(Big)</p>
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		<title>By: Keiko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253938</link>
		<dc:creator>Keiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the smaller space objects seem to be more battered than the much larger ones? Earth has its craters, but most of its deep features appear to be erosion based. Is our planet&#039;s power of erosion so great that it could cover up almost everything that&#039;s hit it? 

Are most of the wounds on moons from a time long ago, before Earth even began to be hospitable to life?

Too many questions, not enough space probes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the smaller space objects seem to be more battered than the much larger ones? Earth has its craters, but most of its deep features appear to be erosion based. Is our planet&#8217;s power of erosion so great that it could cover up almost everything that&#8217;s hit it? </p>
<p>Are most of the wounds on moons from a time long ago, before Earth even began to be hospitable to life?</p>
<p>Too many questions, not enough space probes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pi-needles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pi-needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17.   ND Says: 

&lt;i&gt;Good luck to Russia (and the Chinese) on their mission. They really could use a break from stream of bad luck with Mars. Any successful mission is all the better for all of us.&lt;/i&gt;

Even a Russo-Chinese mission to put a giant death ray laden battle-station into orbit above America? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17.   ND Says: </p>
<p><i>Good luck to Russia (and the Chinese) on their mission. They really could use a break from stream of bad luck with Mars. Any successful mission is all the better for all of us.</i></p>
<p>Even a Russo-Chinese mission to put a giant death ray laden battle-station into orbit above America? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fly-by pics of Mars&#8217;s moon, Phobos &#171; Orion Spur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fly-by pics of Mars&#8217;s moon, Phobos &#171; Orion Spur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ares</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253889</link>
		<dc:creator>Ares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The names of Mars&#039; moons come from Greek mythology and specifically Hesiod&#039;s cosmogony. Phobos and Demios were Ares&#039; sons from Aphrodite. Even though they both were his companions in war that was a result of them being his sons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The names of Mars&#8217; moons come from Greek mythology and specifically Hesiod&#8217;s cosmogony. Phobos and Demios were Ares&#8217; sons from Aphrodite. Even though they both were his companions in war that was a result of them being his sons.</p>
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		<title>By: nomuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when do we get a picture of the third moon......Bottomos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when do we get a picture of the third moon&#8230;&#8230;Bottomos?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253823</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most interesting questions about Phobos and Deimos is why Mars, of all the rocky, inner terrestrial planets, has these tiny rocky satellites and Earth, Venus and Mercury do not. Why don&#039;t they? Why only Mars?

There&#039;s speculation that the orbits of both Phobos and Deimos are decaying and they will eventually skid on to Mars, creating gouges like the Valles Marineris. If Earth, Venus or Mercury had similar tiny moons that crashed long ago, the gouges they made should still be easily visible. So why Mars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most interesting questions about Phobos and Deimos is why Mars, of all the rocky, inner terrestrial planets, has these tiny rocky satellites and Earth, Venus and Mercury do not. Why don&#8217;t they? Why only Mars?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s speculation that the orbits of both Phobos and Deimos are decaying and they will eventually skid on to Mars, creating gouges like the Valles Marineris. If Earth, Venus or Mercury had similar tiny moons that crashed long ago, the gouges they made should still be easily visible. So why Mars?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PhilG: thanks for the link re: the parallel striations. That explanation makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PhilG: thanks for the link re: the parallel striations. That explanation makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too noticed the parallel lines.

It almost looks like a huge chunk of sand stone with craters!

Fabulous picture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too noticed the parallel lines.</p>
<p>It almost looks like a huge chunk of sand stone with craters!</p>
<p>Fabulous picture!</p>
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		<title>By: davem</title>
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		<dc:creator>davem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that the multiple parallel trails are the traces of objects formerly lying on the moon&#039;s surface, that have all been disturbed simultaneously by the moon colliding with something? Then BigBob&#039;s theory looks a goodun&#039;, and explains why thre are so many trails. The chance of them all being the result of oblique collisions is close to nil, given that all other objects seeem to have hit smack on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that the multiple parallel trails are the traces of objects formerly lying on the moon&#8217;s surface, that have all been disturbed simultaneously by the moon colliding with something? Then BigBob&#8217;s theory looks a goodun&#8217;, and explains why thre are so many trails. The chance of them all being the result of oblique collisions is close to nil, given that all other objects seeem to have hit smack on.</p>
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		<title>By: Zippy the Pinhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zippy the Pinhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing we have to fear is fear itself ... and Phobos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing we have to fear is fear itself &#8230; and Phobos!</p>
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		<title>By: Danno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it correct to use the term &quot;soil&quot; here? I generally consider soil to have organic content, whereas regolith is composed of loose debris caused by meteorite impacts. Would it be better to refer to the soil as regolith, or am I just getting my knickers in a bunch for no good reason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it correct to use the term &#8220;soil&#8221; here? I generally consider soil to have organic content, whereas regolith is composed of loose debris caused by meteorite impacts. Would it be better to refer to the soil as regolith, or am I just getting my knickers in a bunch for no good reason?</p>
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		<title>By: PhilG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253731</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For analysis and explanation of the trails read http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/2195.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For analysis and explanation of the trails read <a href="http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/2195.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/2195.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These pics are impressive, but my favourite comes from an earlier mission.  So for Phobos lovers out there, can I suggest you search for an image called:
114-051004-0756-6-nd-01-Phobos_hires.jpg
it&#039;s big and beautifully lit and the grooves on the surface are just ... matchless.  This image is currently centred on my desktop.
The current theory is that the grooves were etched by debris thrown up by massive impacts on the surface of Mars.  I had a model in mind some years ago built out of imagination one evening.  Suppose you take a ball, about the size of a Rugby ball, (or a foot ball for those regions that substitute others games for Rugby) and place it, pointy end up in a transparent tank of oil.  Now take some tiny ball bearings, the smaller the better, and drop them into the oil such that they roll or tumble down the outside of the ball.  That pretty much describes my understanding of the origins of the grooves;  debris thrown up from the Martian surface, leaving their tracks on Phobos as they roll and bouncealong its sides.  The fact that there are a number of different families of grooves from different events suggests that Phobos&#039; leading end was not always so.
Bob(Big)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These pics are impressive, but my favourite comes from an earlier mission.  So for Phobos lovers out there, can I suggest you search for an image called:<br />
114-051004-0756-6-nd-01-Phobos_hires.jpg<br />
it&#8217;s big and beautifully lit and the grooves on the surface are just &#8230; matchless.  This image is currently centred on my desktop.<br />
The current theory is that the grooves were etched by debris thrown up by massive impacts on the surface of Mars.  I had a model in mind some years ago built out of imagination one evening.  Suppose you take a ball, about the size of a Rugby ball, (or a foot ball for those regions that substitute others games for Rugby) and place it, pointy end up in a transparent tank of oil.  Now take some tiny ball bearings, the smaller the better, and drop them into the oil such that they roll or tumble down the outside of the ball.  That pretty much describes my understanding of the origins of the grooves;  debris thrown up from the Martian surface, leaving their tracks on Phobos as they roll and bouncealong its sides.  The fact that there are a number of different families of grooves from different events suggests that Phobos&#8217; leading end was not always so.<br />
Bob(Big)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Meils</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253713</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Meils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange. We get these marvelous views, and all people can talk about is what unfortunate name the russians have given their upcoming probe... 

What amazes me about Phobos, (and indeed many smaller bodies like this) is just how relatively smooth the surface area is. Yes, there are groves and craters... but overall, the surface seems like it started out as being fairly uniform. You would think that a small object like this, without the gravity to pull itself into a sphere, would look more like a rough collection of crags, and lumps held together by common gravity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange. We get these marvelous views, and all people can talk about is what unfortunate name the russians have given their upcoming probe&#8230; </p>
<p>What amazes me about Phobos, (and indeed many smaller bodies like this) is just how relatively smooth the surface area is. Yes, there are groves and craters&#8230; but overall, the surface seems like it started out as being fairly uniform. You would think that a small object like this, without the gravity to pull itself into a sphere, would look more like a rough collection of crags, and lumps held together by common gravity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiny moon is tiny, but so very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiny moon is tiny, but so very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 gss_ooo:
You recall correctly. The Planetary Society, of which I&#039;m proud to be a member, does indeed have an experiment which is due to fly aboard Phobos-Grunt. It is indeed intended to test an aspect of the panspermia theory, i.e. to test whether microorganisms can survive for extended periods in the environment of space. ( We already know that some can, as living microbes were found on Surveyor 3, when parts of it were returned by the Apollo 12 crew, after over two years on the Moon. )
The experiment contains sealed samples of a number of different microorganisms, which will be returned to Earth together with the Phobos samples, to see whether, and how well, they have survived.
I&#039;m not aware of any contamination issues, as the sealed ceramic casing of the experiment has been extensively crash- and destruction-tested; it should survive intact even if the rocket explodes on the launchpad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 gss_ooo:<br />
You recall correctly. The Planetary Society, of which I&#8217;m proud to be a member, does indeed have an experiment which is due to fly aboard Phobos-Grunt. It is indeed intended to test an aspect of the panspermia theory, i.e. to test whether microorganisms can survive for extended periods in the environment of space. ( We already know that some can, as living microbes were found on Surveyor 3, when parts of it were returned by the Apollo 12 crew, after over two years on the Moon. )<br />
The experiment contains sealed samples of a number of different microorganisms, which will be returned to Earth together with the Phobos samples, to see whether, and how well, they have survived.<br />
I&#8217;m not aware of any contamination issues, as the sealed ceramic casing of the experiment has been extensively crash- and destruction-tested; it should survive intact even if the rocket explodes on the launchpad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Cy Coe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Cy Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way the Russians named the mission. Says right what its about. No focus studies needed to created mass media friendly (convoluted) acronyms. It&#039;s going to Phobos and it&#039;s got to do with its soil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way the Russians named the mission. Says right what its about. No focus studies needed to created mass media friendly (convoluted) acronyms. It&#8217;s going to Phobos and it&#8217;s got to do with its soil.</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253643</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Click to Thoatify&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Click to Thoatify&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jcm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253628</link>
		<dc:creator>jcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Click to embiggen&quot; should have been &quot;Click to emphobiate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Click to embiggen&#8221; should have been &#8220;Click to emphobiate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253623</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To put it in perspective a little more for some of us... So Phobos is a little larger in cross section than... Washington DC! Well, the original city, including what&#039;s now Arlington VA too...

Lay it on top and, let&#039;s see, Dupont Circle would be about here... and oh, there&#039;s the Tidal Basin... and there&#039;s Anacostia... and the Pentagon...

Not that I&#039;m advocating anybody should try laying Phobos on DC.... though if Russia is going to send a probe there... ;-) Hey, just kidding, it&#039;s my home town! (DC, that is, not Phobos! Nothing against Phobosians, Leather Goddesses or otherwise...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it in perspective a little more for some of us&#8230; So Phobos is a little larger in cross section than&#8230; Washington DC! Well, the original city, including what&#8217;s now Arlington VA too&#8230;</p>
<p>Lay it on top and, let&#8217;s see, Dupont Circle would be about here&#8230; and oh, there&#8217;s the Tidal Basin&#8230; and there&#8217;s Anacostia&#8230; and the Pentagon&#8230;</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m advocating anybody should try laying Phobos on DC&#8230;. though if Russia is going to send a probe there&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Hey, just kidding, it&#8217;s my home town! (DC, that is, not Phobos! Nothing against Phobosians, Leather Goddesses or otherwise&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253620</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ... the &quot;erosion&quot; that would occur on Phobos would be from micro-meteorites. The effect of this type of erosion can be seen on the craters, where the smallest and youngest are very crisp and sharp and the older ones are soft and rounded. 4 billion years without an atmosphere and being constantly pelted by tiny particles going a few miles per second can do a lot to dull a once-sharp rock. If the original bedrock of Phobos is banded and some bands are slightly more resistant to erosion than others, differential weathering from micro-meteorite impacts could create these parallel striations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8230; the &#8220;erosion&#8221; that would occur on Phobos would be from micro-meteorites. The effect of this type of erosion can be seen on the craters, where the smallest and youngest are very crisp and sharp and the older ones are soft and rounded. 4 billion years without an atmosphere and being constantly pelted by tiny particles going a few miles per second can do a lot to dull a once-sharp rock. If the original bedrock of Phobos is banded and some bands are slightly more resistant to erosion than others, differential weathering from micro-meteorite impacts could create these parallel striations.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Watts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253617</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hi-res photo shows a lot of the craters are askew on one side as if the impactors struck Phobos at a very low angle. This suggests the &quot;sputtering&quot; trails, mostly moving from upper left to lower right, were from impactors hitting at such a low angle they skipped across the surface of Phobos like a flat rock skipping on a pond, losing more mass with each impact until they finally stopped. 

The fainter and highly parallel banding could be a feature of the original rock mass rather than from meteor impacts. On Earth this would be a sign of differential weathering, where one layer of rock is slightly more resistant erosion/weather than the layer immediately below it and so one layer &quot;stands out&quot; in higher relief. 

Assuming Phobos is made of igneous rock, one thing that could cause banding like this is magmatic segregation, where the original rock is molten and cools slowly enough to allow the various minerals to separate into layers. This would suggest that Phobos was originally part of a much larger object, which would be required for the molten rock to cool slowly enough to chemically separate. If Phobos was, as some suggest, a big pile of loosely aggregated material fused together by impact without any further evolution, it would be hard to explain the origin of this banding and layering, since there should not be any order or arrangement to the aggregation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hi-res photo shows a lot of the craters are askew on one side as if the impactors struck Phobos at a very low angle. This suggests the &#8220;sputtering&#8221; trails, mostly moving from upper left to lower right, were from impactors hitting at such a low angle they skipped across the surface of Phobos like a flat rock skipping on a pond, losing more mass with each impact until they finally stopped. </p>
<p>The fainter and highly parallel banding could be a feature of the original rock mass rather than from meteor impacts. On Earth this would be a sign of differential weathering, where one layer of rock is slightly more resistant erosion/weather than the layer immediately below it and so one layer &#8220;stands out&#8221; in higher relief. </p>
<p>Assuming Phobos is made of igneous rock, one thing that could cause banding like this is magmatic segregation, where the original rock is molten and cools slowly enough to allow the various minerals to separate into layers. This would suggest that Phobos was originally part of a much larger object, which would be required for the molten rock to cool slowly enough to chemically separate. If Phobos was, as some suggest, a big pile of loosely aggregated material fused together by impact without any further evolution, it would be hard to explain the origin of this banding and layering, since there should not be any order or arrangement to the aggregation.</p>
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		<title>By: XMark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/15/phobos-closeup-of-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-253605</link>
		<dc:creator>XMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, presumably the Martians died billions of years ago when Mars lost its water. So over that time dust accumulated on the Satellite. And the high-tech cities on Mars were buried under dust as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, presumably the Martians died billions of years ago when Mars lost its water. So over that time dust accumulated on the Satellite. And the high-tech cities on Mars were buried under dust as well.</p>
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