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	<title>Comments on: Penultimate Discovery landing set for 08:48 EDT</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Spiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got some nice pictures from her landing and rollback; link in the name above</description>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didn&#039;t realize they were landing this morning.   i live about 50 mi from ksc.  heard the double booms and thought the cats knocked something over</description>
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		<title>By: dongisselbeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>dongisselbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the charateristic double sonic boom when the shuttle went over Missoula this morning.</description>
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		<title>By: Stanley H. Tweedle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanley H. Tweedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies everyone. My earlier comment was clearly rude and misplaced.</description>
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		<title>By: magista</title>
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		<dc:creator>magista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas, a one-orbit delay this morning meant it fell at 6:45 or so rather than the 5:15-ish I was hoping for (and got up early for). Still, it&#039;s always cool to see them go buy overhead and realize that &#039;hey, there&#039;s &lt;i&gt;people&lt;/i&gt; up there!!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, a one-orbit delay this morning meant it fell at 6:45 or so rather than the 5:15-ish I was hoping for (and got up early for). Still, it&#8217;s always cool to see them go buy overhead and realize that &#8216;hey, there&#8217;s <i>people</i> up there!!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: SanDiegoWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanDiegoWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s home safely!</description>
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		<title>By: SLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A commentary from Professor Bob Park on manned space flight.  I think that this says it all.  Especially the last sentence.  I will refrain from repeating the opinion of Prof. Park held by some in these parts.

&lt;i&gt;2. CONSTELLATION: WHY RETAIN THIS OLD FASHIONED PROGRAM?&lt;\i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;This is the 21st Century. To send humans on long voyages long voyages in environments for which we were not evolved is terminally misguided. On February 1, 2010 President Obama proposed to cancel Constellation in the FY 2011 budget. Most scientists cheered, and when he scheduled a major space policy speech at Kennedy Space Center for yesterday, it was widely assumed that it would be to enlarge on his February 1 decision to scrap Constellation. Every op-ed and TV commentary in anticipation of his talk began with a recital of technological benefits of putting humans in space. They cited everything from Hubble to GPS; they had no connection at all to putting humans in space. What the heck, it&#039;s April, Persephonys soft footsteps have covered Washington with blossoms; this is the season for resurrections, but it was a serious mistake to resurrect Constellation. Whoever sold Obama on this has weakened his Presidency. The idea of sending humans into space is hopelessly old fashioned. &lt;\i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commentary from Professor Bob Park on manned space flight.  I think that this says it all.  Especially the last sentence.  I will refrain from repeating the opinion of Prof. Park held by some in these parts.</p>
<p><i>2. CONSTELLATION: WHY RETAIN THIS OLD FASHIONED PROGRAM?< \i><br />
</i><i>This is the 21st Century. To send humans on long voyages long voyages in environments for which we were not evolved is terminally misguided. On February 1, 2010 President Obama proposed to cancel Constellation in the FY 2011 budget. Most scientists cheered, and when he scheduled a major space policy speech at Kennedy Space Center for yesterday, it was widely assumed that it would be to enlarge on his February 1 decision to scrap Constellation. Every op-ed and TV commentary in anticipation of his talk began with a recital of technological benefits of putting humans in space. They cited everything from Hubble to GPS; they had no connection at all to putting humans in space. What the heck, it&#8217;s April, Persephonys soft footsteps have covered Washington with blossoms; this is the season for resurrections, but it was a serious mistake to resurrect Constellation. Whoever sold Obama on this has weakened his Presidency. The idea of sending humans into space is hopelessly old fashioned. < \i></i></p>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 19.   Shuttlenaught :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; &quot;...here’s a very important point: we cannot and must not let the access to space fall exclusivley on other countries nor private enterprise. Public access to these spacecraft are what have inspired people for generations: engineers, enthusiasts, biologists, mathmeticians, physicists, chemical engineers and everyone who is inspired by the surreal nature of our endeavor. I also think that deep down in our genes something tells us all that getting off the planet (our only home) is the right thing to do. If you watch all the launch videos every single person says, “Wow!” or “Oh my gosh!”. Everyone. Everyone understands what it means on some organic level. We must never lose the idea that a child who feels that must be able to achieve the goal of becoming one of his or her heroes being launched into space and beyond. I am happy to pay for that child to live their dream because it is also mine. 
As for the crew of STS-131: thank you for one of greatest memories of my life. God speed and get home safe!&quot; &lt;/I&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree - good point &amp; well said. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 19.   Shuttlenaught :</p>
<blockquote><p><i> &#8220;&#8230;here’s a very important point: we cannot and must not let the access to space fall exclusivley on other countries nor private enterprise. Public access to these spacecraft are what have inspired people for generations: engineers, enthusiasts, biologists, mathmeticians, physicists, chemical engineers and everyone who is inspired by the surreal nature of our endeavor. I also think that deep down in our genes something tells us all that getting off the planet (our only home) is the right thing to do. If you watch all the launch videos every single person says, “Wow!” or “Oh my gosh!”. Everyone. Everyone understands what it means on some organic level. We must never lose the idea that a child who feels that must be able to achieve the goal of becoming one of his or her heroes being launched into space and beyond. I am happy to pay for that child to live their dream because it is also mine.<br />
As for the crew of STS-131: thank you for one of greatest memories of my life. God speed and get home safe!&#8221; </i> </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree &#8211; good point &#038; well said. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shuttlenaught</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shuttlenaught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael G
It does make intellectual sense, but as glorious and incredible the shuttles are they just never met the cost criteria they were intended for: placing and removing things from space. It costs around $450 million to launch a shuttle. The STS (Space Transport System) was meant to do what private companies are now attempting to do: transport stuff into space at thousands of dollars a pound intstead of tens of thousands (eventually). No one knows if companies like SpaceX will actually do this, but what is known is that shuttles will never be anywhere near &quot;profitable&quot;. The other issue is safety. After Columbia the director of NASA (someone correct me here if I&#039;m wrong) said, paraphrased, &quot;You don&#039;t put people on the side of a bomb,&quot; meaning the ET. There are, indeed, cheaper and safer ways to put people and objects into space. There are, however, no comparisons to the majesty of the winged craft containing people blasting its way into space. I was a one year old when the Saturn Vs were launching and I was lucky enough to be at Banana Creek for STS-131. I&#039;m fairly positive that no craft will ever be as majestic, as thrilling and as beautiful as the shuttle, but I&#039;m  also sure they said that about the Saturns with their 5 F1 engines.

Overall, the shuttles just don&#039;t make economic or practical sense. Sad, yes, but I don&#039;t mind spending that $450 million on something else.

But here&#039;s a very important point: we cannot and must not let the access to space fall exclusivley on other countries nor private enterprise. Public access to these spacecraft are what have inspired people for generations: engineers, enthusiasts, biologists, mathmeticians, physicists, chemical engineers and everyone who is inspired by the surreal nature of our endeavor. I also think that deep down in our genes something tells us all that getting off the planet (our only home) is the right thing to do. If you watch all the launch videos every single person says, &quot;Wow!&quot; or &quot;Oh my gosh!&quot;. Everyone. Everyone understands what it means on some organic level. We must never lose the idea that a child who feels that must be able to achieve the goal of becoming one of his or her heroes being launched into space and beyond. I am happy to pay for that child to live their dream because it is also mine.

As for the crew of STS-131: thank you for one of greatest memories of my life. God speed and get home safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael G<br />
It does make intellectual sense, but as glorious and incredible the shuttles are they just never met the cost criteria they were intended for: placing and removing things from space. It costs around $450 million to launch a shuttle. The STS (Space Transport System) was meant to do what private companies are now attempting to do: transport stuff into space at thousands of dollars a pound intstead of tens of thousands (eventually). No one knows if companies like SpaceX will actually do this, but what is known is that shuttles will never be anywhere near &#8220;profitable&#8221;. The other issue is safety. After Columbia the director of NASA (someone correct me here if I&#8217;m wrong) said, paraphrased, &#8220;You don&#8217;t put people on the side of a bomb,&#8221; meaning the ET. There are, indeed, cheaper and safer ways to put people and objects into space. There are, however, no comparisons to the majesty of the winged craft containing people blasting its way into space. I was a one year old when the Saturn Vs were launching and I was lucky enough to be at Banana Creek for STS-131. I&#8217;m fairly positive that no craft will ever be as majestic, as thrilling and as beautiful as the shuttle, but I&#8217;m  also sure they said that about the Saturns with their 5 F1 engines.</p>
<p>Overall, the shuttles just don&#8217;t make economic or practical sense. Sad, yes, but I don&#8217;t mind spending that $450 million on something else.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s a very important point: we cannot and must not let the access to space fall exclusivley on other countries nor private enterprise. Public access to these spacecraft are what have inspired people for generations: engineers, enthusiasts, biologists, mathmeticians, physicists, chemical engineers and everyone who is inspired by the surreal nature of our endeavor. I also think that deep down in our genes something tells us all that getting off the planet (our only home) is the right thing to do. If you watch all the launch videos every single person says, &#8220;Wow!&#8221; or &#8220;Oh my gosh!&#8221;. Everyone. Everyone understands what it means on some organic level. We must never lose the idea that a child who feels that must be able to achieve the goal of becoming one of his or her heroes being launched into space and beyond. I am happy to pay for that child to live their dream because it is also mine.</p>
<p>As for the crew of STS-131: thank you for one of greatest memories of my life. God speed and get home safe!</p>
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		<title>By: «bønez_brigade»</title>
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		<dc:creator>«bønez_brigade»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MTU [#13],
Welcome to my world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTU [#13],<br />
Welcome to my world.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone explain why we just don&#039;t build more shuttles to replace the aging ones?  We&#039;ve done before.  We know they work.  I realize the design isn&#039;t perfect, and that contracts would need to be put out to have a few more built.  However, it just seems like it would be alot quicker and efficient than building an entirely new craft.  Maybe even improve on the design where econmocally possible. Let the rest of the R&amp;D money go to bigger and bolder designs.

This may be obvious to alot of people, but not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain why we just don&#8217;t build more shuttles to replace the aging ones?  We&#8217;ve done before.  We know they work.  I realize the design isn&#8217;t perfect, and that contracts would need to be put out to have a few more built.  However, it just seems like it would be alot quicker and efficient than building an entirely new craft.  Maybe even improve on the design where econmocally possible. Let the rest of the R&#038;D money go to bigger and bolder designs.</p>
<p>This may be obvious to alot of people, but not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley H. Tweedle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanley H. Tweedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; @ Flying sardines, # 14, 

Go to sleep!</description>
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<p>Go to sleep!</b></p>
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		<title>By: 24601</title>
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		<dc:creator>24601</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11.  Shoeshine Boy:  My guess is they use the arm for their own tile inspection while they flip to let the station folks do their tile inspection.  Perhaps getting a closer look at the leading edges of the wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11.  Shoeshine Boy:  My guess is they use the arm for their own tile inspection while they flip to let the station folks do their tile inspection.  Perhaps getting a closer look at the leading edges of the wings.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying sardines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying sardines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8.   Stanley H. Tweedle :

Dude, &lt;b&gt;what is your problem?&lt;/b&gt; 

Honestly, &lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;what&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/i&gt;?  

I am as fallible and as messed up as the next person - hey, maybe more so than most. I&#039;ve done &amp; said my share &amp; more of stupid things over the years but I wouldn&#039;t post like you did there &amp; recently in other threads here.  

It is one thing to try to make positive interesting contributions here or to at least attempt to express your opinions, however dissident &amp; disagreeable to many folks, clearly, rationally and intelligently but it is quite another to keep posting 1-line flame comments like yours. :-(

If you keep on like this &lt;i&gt;(&amp; that&#039;s not the first or worst such comment I&#039;ve seen from you in the BA blog comments)&lt;/i&gt; you are likely to get banned or at best unite everybody here against you. 

My initial reaction to comments such as yours is to get angry, then to roll my eyes &amp; think &lt;i&gt; &quot;Oh man, not him again&quot;&lt;/i&gt; and then finally on reflection, well .. this:

Why do that?

&lt;b&gt;Why are you doing this &amp; what do you think your gaining by it?&lt;/b&gt; 

Would you care to explain please?

PS. Yeah, I know, shouldn&#039;t feed the trolls. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8.   Stanley H. Tweedle :</p>
<p>Dude, <b>what is your problem?</b> </p>
<p>Honestly, <i><u>what</u></i>?  </p>
<p>I am as fallible and as messed up as the next person &#8211; hey, maybe more so than most. I&#8217;ve done &#038; said my share &#038; more of stupid things over the years but I wouldn&#8217;t post like you did there &#038; recently in other threads here.  </p>
<p>It is one thing to try to make positive interesting contributions here or to at least attempt to express your opinions, however dissident &#038; disagreeable to many folks, clearly, rationally and intelligently but it is quite another to keep posting 1-line flame comments like yours. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you keep on like this <i>(&#038; that&#8217;s not the first or worst such comment I&#8217;ve seen from you in the BA blog comments)</i> you are likely to get banned or at best unite everybody here against you. </p>
<p>My initial reaction to comments such as yours is to get angry, then to roll my eyes &#038; think <i> &#8220;Oh man, not him again&#8221;</i> and then finally on reflection, well .. this:</p>
<p>Why do that?</p>
<p><b>Why are you doing this &#038; what do you think your gaining by it?</b> </p>
<p>Would you care to explain please?</p>
<p>PS. Yeah, I know, shouldn&#8217;t feed the trolls. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to answer this before but my comment got wrongly marked as spam when I tried to demonstrate linking the heavens above site as both  &quot;click on my name&quot; &amp; adding link on editing. 

That was comment  8 - now vanished w/o trace - I have contacted the webmaster (the administrator? ) and explained &amp; hope it can be restored but hasn&#039;t been yet. :-(  

So take II &amp; NOT repeating that mistake - or another one I made ages before of trying to add more than 4-5 links. Note  : &lt;b&gt;DO NOT even TRY to ADD MORE than, say, 4 (?) LINKS in the one comment. &lt;/b&gt; That nearly got me blocked once  when I was just trying to post a number of references &amp; sources. 

@ 5.   Len Says: 

&lt;i&gt;bulletproofcourier — A great way to find stuff like that out is to go to the Heavens Above website (not sure if they allow linking here, it’s at www dot heavens-above dot com — you know what to do!).  &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, you can link here &amp; people do all the time.

&lt;b&gt;3 methods :&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;1. Just post it straight away &amp; it will go into &quot;awaiting moderation&quot; limbo &lt;/b&gt;- assuming its not spam (or gets wrongly marked as such, grrr.. :-( ) then it&#039;ll eventually turn up once the moderator (just the BA?) accepts it. Which can also throw out the numbering. 

&lt;b&gt;2. Add the link on editing&lt;/b&gt; - you should see a black bar with &quot;You can click your name and /or comment to edit&quot;  and an approx. fifteen minute countdown in which you can edit.

(This how I personally usually add links.It doens&#039;t effect the comment count &amp; escapes &quot;moderation limbo.&quot;)

&lt;b&gt;3.  You can add a link in the &quot;website&quot; field of the &quot;submit comment&quot; preliminaries&lt;/b&gt; then say click my name for link - and peopel clicking on your now hypertexted &lt;i&gt;(if that&#039;s the word)&lt;/i&gt; name  should get tothe site you&#039;ve linked. Some folks here do this &amp; it seems to work.

Hope this helps. :-) 

Finally, there is a way to get  a link done as a word in some sort of hypertext thingummy but I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t know how to do that one - it beats my level of net-fu. :-( 

Perhaps someone whose much more expert than me here &lt;i&gt;(IVAN3 MAN are you out there?&lt;/i&gt; ;-) Could elaborate further on that?

PS. BA Please could you perhaps have a post on linking things here and setting out the exact limits and elaborating on this topic - &amp; you could link it somewhere handy for newbies and the less-computer savvy here? 

You&#039;ve got a great blog, FSM *you* know how much I love it - but this would be a small step to making it even greater &amp; much appreciated. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to answer this before but my comment got wrongly marked as spam when I tried to demonstrate linking the heavens above site as both  &#8220;click on my name&#8221; &#038; adding link on editing. </p>
<p>That was comment  8 &#8211; now vanished w/o trace &#8211; I have contacted the webmaster (the administrator? ) and explained &#038; hope it can be restored but hasn&#8217;t been yet. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>So take II &#038; NOT repeating that mistake &#8211; or another one I made ages before of trying to add more than 4-5 links. Note  : <b>DO NOT even TRY to ADD MORE than, say, 4 (?) LINKS in the one comment. </b> That nearly got me blocked once  when I was just trying to post a number of references &#038; sources. </p>
<p>@ 5.   Len Says: </p>
<p><i>bulletproofcourier — A great way to find stuff like that out is to go to the Heavens Above website (not sure if they allow linking here, it’s at www dot heavens-above dot com — you know what to do!).  </i></p>
<p>Yes, you can link here &#038; people do all the time.</p>
<p><b>3 methods :</b></p>
<p><b>1. Just post it straight away &#038; it will go into &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221; limbo </b>- assuming its not spam (or gets wrongly marked as such, grrr.. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  ) then it&#8217;ll eventually turn up once the moderator (just the BA?) accepts it. Which can also throw out the numbering. </p>
<p><b>2. Add the link on editing</b> &#8211; you should see a black bar with &#8220;You can click your name and /or comment to edit&#8221;  and an approx. fifteen minute countdown in which you can edit.</p>
<p>(This how I personally usually add links.It doens&#8217;t effect the comment count &#038; escapes &#8220;moderation limbo.&#8221;)</p>
<p><b>3.  You can add a link in the &#8220;website&#8221; field of the &#8220;submit comment&#8221; preliminaries</b> then say click my name for link &#8211; and peopel clicking on your now hypertexted <i>(if that&#8217;s the word)</i> name  should get tothe site you&#8217;ve linked. Some folks here do this &#038; it seems to work.</p>
<p>Hope this helps. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Finally, there is a way to get  a link done as a word in some sort of hypertext thingummy but I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t know how to do that one &#8211; it beats my level of net-fu. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Perhaps someone whose much more expert than me here <i>(IVAN3 MAN are you out there?</i> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Could elaborate further on that?</p>
<p>PS. BA Please could you perhaps have a post on linking things here and setting out the exact limits and elaborating on this topic &#8211; &#038; you could link it somewhere handy for newbies and the less-computer savvy here? </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a great blog, FSM *you* know how much I love it &#8211; but this would be a small step to making it even greater &#038; much appreciated. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack! The shuttle is SO old fashioned. I wants me laser powered flying saucer.

If they land tomorrow, will they still cross over the eastern US? Preferably after 10 am???

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! The shuttle is SO old fashioned. I wants me laser powered flying saucer.</p>
<p>If they land tomorrow, will they still cross over the eastern US? Preferably after 10 am???</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Shoeshine Boy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/18/penultimate-discovery-landing-set-for-0848-edt/comment-page-1/#comment-260135</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoeshine Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody know why the Canadarm is extended in the photo?

I&#039;ll miss the shuttle, too.  Yes, it is too expensive, too dangerous, and requires too much maintenance to be considered &quot;easy turn-around&quot;, but it is also very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know why the Canadarm is extended in the photo?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll miss the shuttle, too.  Yes, it is too expensive, too dangerous, and requires too much maintenance to be considered &#8220;easy turn-around&#8221;, but it is also very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooop.  They chucked it, and left them up there for another day.  No landing Monday.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooop.  They chucked it, and left them up there for another day.  No landing Monday.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/18/penultimate-discovery-landing-set-for-0848-edt/comment-page-1/#comment-260118</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up, Phil!  The shuttle IS going around again...

&quot;Mission Control Entry Flight Director Bryan Lunney has decided to wave off the first landing opportunity for space shuttle Discovery because of precipitation and cloud coverage at Kennedy Space Center’s Shuttle Landing Facility.

The shuttle’s next landing opportunity is at 10:23 a.m. EDT, which would call for a 9:17 a.m. deorbit burn.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up, Phil!  The shuttle IS going around again&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mission Control Entry Flight Director Bryan Lunney has decided to wave off the first landing opportunity for space shuttle Discovery because of precipitation and cloud coverage at Kennedy Space Center’s Shuttle Landing Facility.</p>
<p>The shuttle’s next landing opportunity is at 10:23 a.m. EDT, which would call for a 9:17 a.m. deorbit burn.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley H. Tweedle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanley H. Tweedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; Goodbye shuttle programme and I hope that America  falls like a stone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> Goodbye shuttle programme and I hope that America  falls like a stone!</b></p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. I was wondering when this was happening &amp; whether I&#039;d already missed it while working this morning.

My best wishes to the shuttle astronauts &amp; NASA ground  /mission control folks for a smooth and successful touchdown. :-) 

I&#039;d love to see the  Shuttle lives &amp; flights extended - ideally until their replacement takes over. I loathe the thought of the who knows how long gap between the Space Shuttle retirements &amp; its US successor &lt;i&gt;(which is??)&lt;/i&gt;  taking over - wish it was no more than a month or six at most rather than the unknown number of years it is currently. :-(

For all its faults (&amp; yes there are many) and its failure to be  quite the craft that was promised, I still think the Space Shuttle&#039;s are among the most magnificently superb machines Humanity has ever constructed. I will miss them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I was wondering when this was happening &#038; whether I&#8217;d already missed it while working this morning.</p>
<p>My best wishes to the shuttle astronauts &#038; NASA ground  /mission control folks for a smooth and successful touchdown. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the  Shuttle lives &#038; flights extended &#8211; ideally until their replacement takes over. I loathe the thought of the who knows how long gap between the Space Shuttle retirements &#038; its US successor <i>(which is??)</i>  taking over &#8211; wish it was no more than a month or six at most rather than the unknown number of years it is currently. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For all its faults (&#038; yes there are many) and its failure to be  quite the craft that was promised, I still think the Space Shuttle&#8217;s are among the most magnificently superb machines Humanity has ever constructed. I will miss them.</p>
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		<title>By: Noadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floyd: Look up SpaceX, they are the most likely private company to build spacecraft capable of going to the ISS and doing other orbital missions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floyd: Look up SpaceX, they are the most likely private company to build spacecraft capable of going to the ISS and doing other orbital missions.</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bulletproofcourier -- A great way to find stuff like that out is to go to the Heavens Above website (not sure if they allow linking here, it&#039;s at www dot heavens-above dot com -- you know what to do!). You need to enter your latitude and longitude, and then the site will tell you when and how to see the ISS, current shuttle missions, etc. Given that the shuttle is coming in for a landing, I&#039;m not sure how accurate the track will be, but it&#039;s worth a try...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bulletproofcourier &#8212; A great way to find stuff like that out is to go to the Heavens Above website (not sure if they allow linking here, it&#8217;s at www dot heavens-above dot com &#8212; you know what to do!). You need to enter your latitude and longitude, and then the site will tell you when and how to see the ISS, current shuttle missions, etc. Given that the shuttle is coming in for a landing, I&#8217;m not sure how accurate the track will be, but it&#8217;s worth a try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bulletproofcourier</title>
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		<dc:creator>bulletproofcourier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Vancouver BC - if the skies are clear, could I see anything?  The track goes right over SW British Columbia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Vancouver BC &#8211; if the skies are clear, could I see anything?  The track goes right over SW British Columbia.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update.  I was just about to ask what that orbit 223 was and when it would be if they used it since it also passes right over home here in NW Arkansas.  Maybe if you ask them they&#039;ll delay it for us!  You have a lot of pull over there, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update.  I was just about to ask what that orbit 223 was and when it would be if they used it since it also passes right over home here in NW Arkansas.  Maybe if you ask them they&#8217;ll delay it for us!  You have a lot of pull over there, right?</p>
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