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	<title>Comments on: Carnival of Space #152</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: skylyre</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/03/carnival-of-space-152/comment-page-1/#comment-262950</link>
		<dc:creator>skylyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WISH my local carnival had rides that cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WISH my local carnival had rides that cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/03/carnival-of-space-152/comment-page-1/#comment-262837</link>
		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s from Gavin &amp; Stacey? Who are they? 

Sorry but I don&#039;t get the reference here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s from Gavin &#038; Stacey? Who are they? </p>
<p>Sorry but I don&#8217;t get the reference here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/03/carnival-of-space-152/comment-page-1/#comment-262835</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or from GAVIN &amp; STACEY ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or from GAVIN &#038; STACEY &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/03/carnival-of-space-152/comment-page-1/#comment-262756</link>
		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the off-chance that some folks are reading this and are curious : 

Nitrogen doesn&#039;t freeze until temperatures reach  minus two hundred and ten degrees Celcisus or 63 degrees Kelvin or below - and Saturn ain&#039;t that cold.

Temperatures on Saturn are  usually minus one hundred and eighty five degrees Celscius &amp; on Titan are minus one hundred and eighty Celscius or 94 Kelvin with 98 % of Titan&#039;s atmosphere being nitrogen. 

Oxygen, BTW., freezes at minus two hundred and eighteen Celscius or 54 Kelvin. 

Water ice - the main component of Saturn&#039;s rings -  melts at zero degrees Celscius (273 Kelvin) with Lunar temperatures ranging from  minus 233 to plus 123 Celscius. (Or 100 K to 390 K.)  

&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Sources :&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn &amp; ice &amp; Moon too plus

Watson, Fred [Editor], &lt;i&gt;‘Astronomica’&lt;/i&gt;, Millennium House, 2009.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the off-chance that some folks are reading this and are curious : </p>
<p>Nitrogen doesn&#8217;t freeze until temperatures reach  minus two hundred and ten degrees Celcisus or 63 degrees Kelvin or below &#8211; and Saturn ain&#8217;t that cold.</p>
<p>Temperatures on Saturn are  usually minus one hundred and eighty five degrees Celscius &#038; on Titan are minus one hundred and eighty Celscius or 94 Kelvin with 98 % of Titan&#8217;s atmosphere being nitrogen. </p>
<p>Oxygen, BTW., freezes at minus two hundred and eighteen Celscius or 54 Kelvin. </p>
<p>Water ice &#8211; the main component of Saturn&#8217;s rings &#8211;  melts at zero degrees Celscius (273 Kelvin) with Lunar temperatures ranging from  minus 233 to plus 123 Celscius. (Or 100 K to 390 K.)  </p>
<p><b><u>Sources :</u></b> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen</a></p>
<p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn</a> &#038; ice &#038; Moon too plus</p>
<p>Watson, Fred [Editor], <i>‘Astronomica’</i>, Millennium House, 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Plutonium being from Pluto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plutonium being from Pluto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How cool would it be if we were suddenly orbiting Saturn with Saturn being in Earth’s position so our atmosphere doesn’t freeze &lt;/i&gt;

Earth&#039;s atmosphere is mainly nitrogen. (78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen &amp; 1% argon in round figures with all other gases being trace elements only.) 

So is Pluto&#039;s. (99% nitrogen, some methane and Co2.)

Pluto&#039;s atmosphere does eventually freeze during our winter when it is further out but then Saturn is much closer than Pluto is to the Sun!  (10 AU for Saturn versus 30 to 50 AU for Pluto or 79 minutes light travel time from our Sun to Saturn vs 330 minutes light-time to Pluto.)

So Earth&#039;s atmosphere (mostly) would NOT freeze solid if Earth were moved out to orbit Saturn where the ringed planet currently circles. 

Sure people and oceans would freeze solid with all the water vapour freezing out as snow  - although tidal interactions &amp; geothermal heat could make some spots on Earth still pretty warm  &amp; keep Europa-style sub-ice surface seas alive - but Earth&#039;s whole atmosphere? Nope. 

Then there&#039;s also the sad fact that if Saturn&#039;s icy rings were at Earth&#039;s distance from the Sun (1 AU - by definition or  8.3 minutes light time.) they&#039;d melt away and disappear.  :-(

Still, its a great image! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How cool would it be if we were suddenly orbiting Saturn with Saturn being in Earth’s position so our atmosphere doesn’t freeze </i></p>
<p>Earth&#8217;s atmosphere is mainly nitrogen. (78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen &#038; 1% argon in round figures with all other gases being trace elements only.) </p>
<p>So is Pluto&#8217;s. (99% nitrogen, some methane and Co2.)</p>
<p>Pluto&#8217;s atmosphere does eventually freeze during our winter when it is further out but then Saturn is much closer than Pluto is to the Sun!  (10 AU for Saturn versus 30 to 50 AU for Pluto or 79 minutes light travel time from our Sun to Saturn vs 330 minutes light-time to Pluto.)</p>
<p>So Earth&#8217;s atmosphere (mostly) would NOT freeze solid if Earth were moved out to orbit Saturn where the ringed planet currently circles. </p>
<p>Sure people and oceans would freeze solid with all the water vapour freezing out as snow  &#8211; although tidal interactions &#038; geothermal heat could make some spots on Earth still pretty warm  &#038; keep Europa-style sub-ice surface seas alive &#8211; but Earth&#8217;s whole atmosphere? Nope. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s also the sad fact that if Saturn&#8217;s icy rings were at Earth&#8217;s distance from the Sun (1 AU &#8211; by definition or  8.3 minutes light time.) they&#8217;d melt away and disappear.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Still, its a great image! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/03/carnival-of-space-152/comment-page-1/#comment-262745</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 06:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The 152nd (pronounced &quot;one hundred fifty tooth&quot;) &lt;/i&gt;

Why not pronounce it one hundred and fifty second though? What &#039;s wrong with that? ;-)

&lt;I&gt;Also, I love this image that Ryan, who runs that blog, put together. This should be the Official CoS banner, I think. &lt;/i&gt;

Now *that* suggestion I&#039;ll second! ;-) 

BTW. How cool would it be if we were suddenly orbiting Saturn with Saturn being in Earth&#039;s position so our atmosphere doesn&#039;t freeze - &amp; in a tilted polar orbit at that!  ;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The 152nd (pronounced &#8220;one hundred fifty tooth&#8221;) </i></p>
<p>Why not pronounce it one hundred and fifty second though? What &#8216;s wrong with that? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>Also, I love this image that Ryan, who runs that blog, put together. This should be the Official CoS banner, I think. </i></p>
<p>Now *that* suggestion I&#8217;ll second! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>BTW. How cool would it be if we were suddenly orbiting Saturn with Saturn being in Earth&#8217;s position so our atmosphere doesn&#8217;t freeze &#8211; &#038; in a tilted polar orbit at that!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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