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		<title>By: Meine Welt! &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Cuccinelli warms to his task of climate change denial &#124; Bad Astronomy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232552</link>
		<dc:creator>Meine Welt! &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Cuccinelli warms to his task of climate change denial &#124; Bad Astronomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Yale Forum on Climate Change &#38; The Media &#187; Climate Scientist Strikes Back: Libel, Canada,and the Meaning of Weaver vs. National Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Yale Forum on Climate Change &#38; The Media &#187; Climate Scientist Strikes Back: Libel, Canada,and the Meaning of Weaver vs. National Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Discover blogger Phil Plait wrote that he was &#8220;glad&#8221; Weaver is pushing back, especially given all of the attacks on scientists in recent months. &#8220;This attack on the reputations of scientists is nefarious; reputation is extremely important when it comes to a scientist&#8217;s career,&#8221; Plait wrote. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Discover blogger Phil Plait wrote that he was &#8220;glad&#8221; Weaver is pushing back, especially given all of the attacks on scientists in recent months. &#8220;This attack on the reputations of scientists is nefarious; reputation is extremely important when it comes to a scientist&#8217;s career,&#8221; Plait wrote. [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Ozonator</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232550</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, if you buy into corporate welfare, you save $5 and get rent-boy as super hero and Marc Morano flashbacks.

“Story #8: Financial Times: Police Quiz Climate Change Skeptics ... something pretty outrageous, pretty damned outrageous in any number of ways that you have not seen in American State-Controlled Media? ... &quot;Police investigating the alleged theft of e-mails behind the recent &#039;Climategate&#039; ....&quot; ... &quot;... Local police are being helped by officers from the National Domestic Extremism Team ....&quot; ... Story #13: ... Who&#039;s going to read it and give you the details? ... researchers at the Heritage Foundation ... You walk in there and you see &#039;em think. ... And after they think it, then they write it, and that&#039;s how you know what they&#039;re thinking. Membership starts at just a paltry $25 a year” (“Stack of Stuff Quick Hits Page”; rushlimbaugh.com; 4/20/10).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, if you buy into corporate welfare, you save $5 and get rent-boy as super hero and Marc Morano flashbacks.</p>
<p>“Story #8: Financial Times: Police Quiz Climate Change Skeptics &#8230; something pretty outrageous, pretty damned outrageous in any number of ways that you have not seen in American State-Controlled Media? &#8230; &#8220;Police investigating the alleged theft of e-mails behind the recent &#8216;Climategate&#8217; &#8230;.&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;&#8230; Local police are being helped by officers from the National Domestic Extremism Team &#8230;.&#8221; &#8230; Story #13: &#8230; Who&#8217;s going to read it and give you the details? &#8230; researchers at the Heritage Foundation &#8230; You walk in there and you see &#8216;em think. &#8230; And after they think it, then they write it, and that&#8217;s how you know what they&#8217;re thinking. Membership starts at just a paltry $25 a year” (“Stack of Stuff Quick Hits Page”; rushlimbaugh.com; 4/20/10).</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Little</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232549</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can be a climate scientist! come one come all!

Have access to the internet, Check

Have a general mistrust of science, Check

Watch FOX News, Check.

Know how to build straw men and knock them down, Check.

Well then you have all the qualifications necessary to receive your advanced degree in climate science. For two simple payments of $29.99 we will send you a list of blogs where you can publish your ideas to have then peer reviewed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can be a climate scientist! come one come all!</p>
<p>Have access to the internet, Check</p>
<p>Have a general mistrust of science, Check</p>
<p>Watch FOX News, Check.</p>
<p>Know how to build straw men and knock them down, Check.</p>
<p>Well then you have all the qualifications necessary to receive your advanced degree in climate science. For two simple payments of $29.99 we will send you a list of blogs where you can publish your ideas to have then peer reviewed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Pressman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232548</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Pressman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 08:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug Little said:

&quot;Oh and sorry to disappoint your preconceptions but the climate scientists have been cleared of any wrongdoing, I afraid to say that the fantasy land you live in well it conflicts with reality. Obviously in Alecto land science is a popularity contest where the general public can scrutinize something that they probably cant even read let alone understand, if that was the way science was done where do you think we would be as a society today? The enlightenment would never have happened that’s for sure. &quot;

Doug, how nasty of you to write such callous words! Science should be a social endeavour open to all regardless of lack of knowledge or education. We should all be able to decide, by the amazing democracy of internet blogging, which science is nice and which science is part of a liberal lefty non skeptic agenda foisted upon us by corrupt selfish so called &quot;scientists&quot; that can&#039;t do science properly.
Anyone can be a climate scientist! Just look at Lord Monckton, and a plethora of quite capable people who didn&#039;t even study the subject of &quot;climate science&quot;, but are giving excellent peer reviewed critiques of  the so called &quot;science &quot;churned out by the amateurs that bothered to learn some so called &quot;climate science&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Little said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and sorry to disappoint your preconceptions but the climate scientists have been cleared of any wrongdoing, I afraid to say that the fantasy land you live in well it conflicts with reality. Obviously in Alecto land science is a popularity contest where the general public can scrutinize something that they probably cant even read let alone understand, if that was the way science was done where do you think we would be as a society today? The enlightenment would never have happened that’s for sure. &#8221;</p>
<p>Doug, how nasty of you to write such callous words! Science should be a social endeavour open to all regardless of lack of knowledge or education. We should all be able to decide, by the amazing democracy of internet blogging, which science is nice and which science is part of a liberal lefty non skeptic agenda foisted upon us by corrupt selfish so called &#8220;scientists&#8221; that can&#8217;t do science properly.<br />
Anyone can be a climate scientist! Just look at Lord Monckton, and a plethora of quite capable people who didn&#8217;t even study the subject of &#8220;climate science&#8221;, but are giving excellent peer reviewed critiques of  the so called &#8220;science &#8220;churned out by the amateurs that bothered to learn some so called &#8220;climate science&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Little</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232547</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 02:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As a skeptic I find your faith in scientific institutions that have been shown to be untrustworthy a little unsettling. The whole edifice of climate science, and science in general is suspect in the light of current events. The government should be working to make all of science extremely open to public scrutiny by the skeptics of all scientific theories.
This is the only way that falsehoods perpetuated by the scientific establishment can be dealt with.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a skeptic you don&#039;t seem to understand what science is. If someone has been dishonest in the scientific community the they get weeded out fairly quickly, piltdown man, cold fusion, etc. Science is the best and only tool that we have to understand what reality is. You realize that anybody can find and read a published paper on the internet right. If you have a problem with the paper and can show where it is wrong then I&#039;m sure that the original  author would be grateful so that he can then make an adjustment and hopefully move forward with his work.

Oh and sorry to disappoint your preconceptions but the climate scientists have been cleared of any wrongdoing, I afraid to say that the fantasy land you live in well it conflicts with reality. Obviously in Alecto land science is a popularity contest where the general public can scrutinize something that they probably cant even read let alone understand, if that was the way science was done where do you think we would be as a society today? The enlightenment would never have happened that&#039;s for sure.

You know what if you think science is so unreliable the why don&#039;t you go live with the Armish, they reject most of the technology that teh evil science is responsible for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a skeptic I find your faith in scientific institutions that have been shown to be untrustworthy a little unsettling. The whole edifice of climate science, and science in general is suspect in the light of current events. The government should be working to make all of science extremely open to public scrutiny by the skeptics of all scientific theories.<br />
This is the only way that falsehoods perpetuated by the scientific establishment can be dealt with.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a skeptic you don&#8217;t seem to understand what science is. If someone has been dishonest in the scientific community the they get weeded out fairly quickly, piltdown man, cold fusion, etc. Science is the best and only tool that we have to understand what reality is. You realize that anybody can find and read a published paper on the internet right. If you have a problem with the paper and can show where it is wrong then I&#8217;m sure that the original  author would be grateful so that he can then make an adjustment and hopefully move forward with his work.</p>
<p>Oh and sorry to disappoint your preconceptions but the climate scientists have been cleared of any wrongdoing, I afraid to say that the fantasy land you live in well it conflicts with reality. Obviously in Alecto land science is a popularity contest where the general public can scrutinize something that they probably cant even read let alone understand, if that was the way science was done where do you think we would be as a society today? The enlightenment would never have happened that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>You know what if you think science is so unreliable the why don&#8217;t you go live with the Armish, they reject most of the technology that teh evil science is responsible for.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug Little Said:

&quot;What I was talking about as being a non event is that it didn’t change any of the conclusions that came from that data or any theories that the data was shown to support.&quot;

As a skeptic I find your faith in scientific institutions that have been shown to be untrustworthy a little unsettling. The whole edifice of climate science, and science in general is suspect in the light of current events. The government should be working to make all of science extremely open to public scrutiny by the skeptics of all scientific theories.
This is the only way that falsehoods perpetuated by the scientific establishment can be dealt with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Little Said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What I was talking about as being a non event is that it didn’t change any of the conclusions that came from that data or any theories that the data was shown to support.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a skeptic I find your faith in scientific institutions that have been shown to be untrustworthy a little unsettling. The whole edifice of climate science, and science in general is suspect in the light of current events. The government should be working to make all of science extremely open to public scrutiny by the skeptics of all scientific theories.<br />
This is the only way that falsehoods perpetuated by the scientific establishment can be dealt with.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Little</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232545</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So why are true climate scientists NOT allowed to ‘pick apart new ideas’ in your little club???
i.e. actual climate scientists like Richard Lindzen, John Christy, Roy Spencer, etc. etc…..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Got evidence that the IPCC is actually repressing anything. That would be funny because both Richard and John have contributed to the IPCC reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So why are true climate scientists NOT allowed to ‘pick apart new ideas’ in your little club???<br />
i.e. actual climate scientists like Richard Lindzen, John Christy, Roy Spencer, etc. etc…..</p></blockquote>
<p>Got evidence that the IPCC is actually repressing anything. That would be funny because both Richard and John have contributed to the IPCC reports.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozonator</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232544</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matris Fututor, George Will, and Marc Morano will give up Focus on the Family’s rentaboy.com for a month to rebuild Tacna due to a predicted, regional, global warming earthquake.

With Tacna being ~50 miles from Bolivia and condolences, “A magnitude-6.5 earthquake jolted Peruvian department of Tacna, bordering with Chile, injuring 11 people ... the earthquake caused the cuts of water supply and telephone service ... gaps and cracks in walls and structures of the Apoyo Hipolito Unanue Hospital and the patients were evacuated ... Landslides occurred in several parts of the highway connecting Tacna&#039;s capital with Locumba and Tarata provinces ... the quake damaged houses in Costa Verde settlement and the center of San Antonio town” (“Magnitude-6.5 Earthquake Jolts Peru, 11 Injured”; Web Editor: Han Yueling; Xinhua; english.cri.cn, 5/7/10).  In the last 10 years, I have both directly and indirectly predicted “~1 to 2.5 million dead and dying from violent global warming catastrophes”.  “This is ... the first international conference devoted to answering questions overlooked by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. ...  George Will ...  wrote that if nations impose the reductions in energy use that Al Gore and the folks at RealClimate call for, they will cause “more preventable death and suffering than was caused in the last century by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot combined.” ... The Heartland Institute is in the “skeptics” camp because we know alarmism is a tool that has been used ... since as early as 1798 ... Winners don’t exaggerate. Winners don’t lie” (“2008 International Conference on Climate Change - Opening Remarks delivered Sunday, March 2, 2008”; Joseph L. ‘pharaonic god of science’ Bast, Conference Host, President, The Heartland Institute; heartland.org).  “‘Yes, we plead guilty to promoting ‘inaction’—‘Skeptics will proudly celebrate the collapse of Copenhagen Treaty’. Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd spewed out a rhetorical barrage on climate skeptics worldwide. ... Climate Depot has undertaken a point by point rebuttal to Rudd’s claims. ... Rudd Claim: Our “children’s fate - and our grandchildren’s fate - will lie entirely with [skeptics’ opposition]. Climate Depot Response: Nice maudlin touch, Mr. Rudd. ... Climate Depot takes full responsibility for the fate of your children and grandchildren from any future man-made climate catastrophe” (“Australian PM warns skeptics ‘are too ‘dangerous to ignore’ and are ‘holding the world to ransom’”, By Marc ‘Eskimo cyst’ Morano, Climate Depot Editorial”; editorial abuse by Joseph D’Aleo;  icecap.us, 11/6/09).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matris Fututor, George Will, and Marc Morano will give up Focus on the Family’s rentaboy.com for a month to rebuild Tacna due to a predicted, regional, global warming earthquake.</p>
<p>With Tacna being ~50 miles from Bolivia and condolences, “A magnitude-6.5 earthquake jolted Peruvian department of Tacna, bordering with Chile, injuring 11 people &#8230; the earthquake caused the cuts of water supply and telephone service &#8230; gaps and cracks in walls and structures of the Apoyo Hipolito Unanue Hospital and the patients were evacuated &#8230; Landslides occurred in several parts of the highway connecting Tacna&#8217;s capital with Locumba and Tarata provinces &#8230; the quake damaged houses in Costa Verde settlement and the center of San Antonio town” (“Magnitude-6.5 Earthquake Jolts Peru, 11 Injured”; Web Editor: Han Yueling; Xinhua; english.cri.cn, 5/7/10).  In the last 10 years, I have both directly and indirectly predicted “~1 to 2.5 million dead and dying from violent global warming catastrophes”.  “This is &#8230; the first international conference devoted to answering questions overlooked by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. &#8230;  George Will &#8230;  wrote that if nations impose the reductions in energy use that Al Gore and the folks at RealClimate call for, they will cause “more preventable death and suffering than was caused in the last century by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot combined.” &#8230; The Heartland Institute is in the “skeptics” camp because we know alarmism is a tool that has been used &#8230; since as early as 1798 &#8230; Winners don’t exaggerate. Winners don’t lie” (“2008 International Conference on Climate Change &#8211; Opening Remarks delivered Sunday, March 2, 2008”; Joseph L. ‘pharaonic god of science’ Bast, Conference Host, President, The Heartland Institute; heartland.org).  “‘Yes, we plead guilty to promoting ‘inaction’—‘Skeptics will proudly celebrate the collapse of Copenhagen Treaty’. Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd spewed out a rhetorical barrage on climate skeptics worldwide. &#8230; Climate Depot has undertaken a point by point rebuttal to Rudd’s claims. &#8230; Rudd Claim: Our “children’s fate &#8211; and our grandchildren’s fate &#8211; will lie entirely with [skeptics’ opposition]. Climate Depot Response: Nice maudlin touch, Mr. Rudd. &#8230; Climate Depot takes full responsibility for the fate of your children and grandchildren from any future man-made climate catastrophe” (“Australian PM warns skeptics ‘are too ‘dangerous to ignore’ and are ‘holding the world to ransom’”, By Marc ‘Eskimo cyst’ Morano, Climate Depot Editorial”; editorial abuse by Joseph D’Aleo;  icecap.us, 11/6/09).</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Little</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/04/deniers-abuse-power-to-attack-climate-scientists/#comment-232543</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sdcougar the,

 IPCC is a panel they compile reports, they don&#039;t actually do the science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdcougar the,</p>
<p> IPCC is a panel they compile reports, they don&#8217;t actually do the science.</p>
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