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		<title>By: joechemistry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/06/the-real-pandora-and-two-mooning-brothers/#comment-232984</link>
		<dc:creator>joechemistry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the right, just outside the rings, is tiny, flying saucer-shaped Pandora. And the fourth moon? That’s Pan, the tiny white spot in the gap in the rings on the left, barely [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the right, just outside the rings, is tiny, flying saucer-shaped Pandora. And the fourth moon? That’s Pan, the tiny white spot in the gap in the rings on the left, barely [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Pi-needles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pi-needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 10:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19.   MichaelL:

That was cheek-y!  ;-)</description>
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<p>That was cheek-y!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alboraq</title>
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		<dc:creator>alboraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a heck of a lot going on in that, pic, Phil.

If you look carefully, there&#039;s four, maybe five glitches in the middle of the three outermost rings - but are they all caused by the two moons, especially the one closest to the viewer just before the three rings appear to merge?

If you look at the moons themselves, both of them seem to have highly visible craters on their upper bodies, but Epimetheus, (and Pandora, to a degree) appears to have a highly excavated - impact created? - &#039;under&#039; region, adjacent to which is what almost appears to be a mini-me moon, (although viewed in inverted colours it could be a pyramid-esque mountain, but surely that&#039;d be almost as odd?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a heck of a lot going on in that, pic, Phil.</p>
<p>If you look carefully, there&#8217;s four, maybe five glitches in the middle of the three outermost rings &#8211; but are they all caused by the two moons, especially the one closest to the viewer just before the three rings appear to merge?</p>
<p>If you look at the moons themselves, both of them seem to have highly visible craters on their upper bodies, but Epimetheus, (and Pandora, to a degree) appears to have a highly excavated &#8211; impact created? &#8211; &#8216;under&#8217; region, adjacent to which is what almost appears to be a mini-me moon, (although viewed in inverted colours it could be a pyramid-esque mountain, but surely that&#8217;d be almost as odd?).</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 16:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that would make this more awesome, is if these similar sized moons were orbiting Uranus... I think we all know why... They would be &quot;The Mythical and Epic Twin Moons Of Uranus&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that would make this more awesome, is if these similar sized moons were orbiting Uranus&#8230; I think we all know why&#8230; They would be &#8220;The Mythical and Epic Twin Moons Of Uranus&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surface gravity: I looked up Saturn&#039;s on the web the other day and the first seven sites, all reasonably good educational or academic sources, gave me seven different values ranging from 1.12 to 0.87 times that of Earth.  They were all using different definitions of &#039;surface&#039;.  One was &#039;the level at which Saturn&#039;s atmospheric pressure equals that of Earth&#039; as though that meant anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surface gravity: I looked up Saturn&#8217;s on the web the other day and the first seven sites, all reasonably good educational or academic sources, gave me seven different values ranging from 1.12 to 0.87 times that of Earth.  They were all using different definitions of &#8216;surface&#8217;.  One was &#8216;the level at which Saturn&#8217;s atmospheric pressure equals that of Earth&#8217; as though that meant anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 12:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay I&#039;ve just asked that question there for you  - let&#039;s hope we get some good answers  - see :

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/103799-Measuring-the-days-of-gas-giants?p=1728440#post1728440

EDIT TO ADD :

Yes - Wikipedia check confirms that &lt;i&gt;Cassini&lt;/i&gt; began orbiting Saturn in 2004.

Also &lt;i&gt;Voyager II&lt;/i&gt; fly past Saturn in 1981 &amp; &lt;i&gt;Voyager I&lt;/i&gt; fly by it in 1980. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I&#8217;ve just asked that question there for you  &#8211; let&#8217;s hope we get some good answers  &#8211; see :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/103799-Measuring-the-days-of-gas-giants?p=1728440#post1728440" rel="nofollow">http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/103799-Measuring-the-days-of-gas-giants?p=1728440#post1728440</a></p>
<p>EDIT TO ADD :</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; Wikipedia check confirms that <i>Cassini</i> began orbiting Saturn in 2004.</p>
<p>Also <i>Voyager II</i> fly past Saturn in 1981 &amp; <i>Voyager I</i> fly by it in 1980. </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 12:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Just me :

&lt;i&gt;but I assume that the rotational period is not determined by the cloud movements, right? Any thoughts? &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not sure &amp; I could well be wrong - please correct me if I am -  but I think cloud patterns *are* actually used along with perhaps magnetic fields to judge the gas giants rotation periods.

Its a good question and pretty hard to work out given these planets are gas and fluid rather than solid bodies.

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Saturn&#039;s rotation period has actually changed between the time &lt;i&gt;Voyager II&lt;/i&gt; last flew past the planet in 1980-83 ish (?) to when &lt;i&gt;Cassini&lt;/i&gt; arrived in 2004 ~ish (?) -  although maybe it was just a case of a more precise measurement being made.  I&#039;ll have to research this further myself now.  :-)

You might try asking this question on the BAUT  forum  too :

http://www.bautforum.com/forumdisplay.php/8-Space-Astronomy-Questions-and-Answers

if you haven&#039;t done so already.

Otherwise, if anybody can explain or elaborate further on this it&#039;d be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Just me :</p>
<p><i>but I assume that the rotational period is not determined by the cloud movements, right? Any thoughts? </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure &amp; I could well be wrong &#8211; please correct me if I am &#8211;  but I think cloud patterns *are* actually used along with perhaps magnetic fields to judge the gas giants rotation periods.</p>
<p>Its a good question and pretty hard to work out given these planets are gas and fluid rather than solid bodies.</p>
<p>I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Saturn&#8217;s rotation period has actually changed between the time <i>Voyager II</i> last flew past the planet in 1980-83 ish (?) to when <i>Cassini</i> arrived in 2004 ~ish (?) &#8211;  although maybe it was just a case of a more precise measurement being made.  I&#8217;ll have to research this further myself now.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You might try asking this question on the BAUT  forum  too :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bautforum.com/forumdisplay.php/8-Space-Astronomy-Questions-and-Answers" rel="nofollow">http://www.bautforum.com/forumdisplay.php/8-Space-Astronomy-Questions-and-Answers</a></p>
<p>if you haven&#8217;t done so already.</p>
<p>Otherwise, if anybody can explain or elaborate further on this it&#8217;d be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 11:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of related question, and something I&#039;ve been wondering for a long time: how is the rotational period for the gas giants determined? I mean, they all have high winds, storms and such, but I assume that the rotational period is not determined by the cloud movements, right? Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of related question, and something I&#8217;ve been wondering for a long time: how is the rotational period for the gas giants determined? I mean, they all have high winds, storms and such, but I assume that the rotational period is not determined by the cloud movements, right? Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Gkopel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gkopel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 09:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jcm Says: I guess this is a good time to get familar with Roman mythology.
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It&#039;s Greek mythology actualy. Don&#039;t you see the self sarcasm in the myths? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jcm Says: I guess this is a good time to get familar with Roman mythology.<br />
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<p>It&#8217;s Greek mythology actualy. Don&#8217;t you see the self sarcasm in the myths? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 05:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess this is a good time to get familar with Roman mythology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this is a good time to get familar with Roman mythology.</p>
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