Comments on: Hip Hop Holst?

By: Turtleland

Turtleland — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:47:06 +0000

he should get The Game to rap on a remix to the Mars song cause it is known as the red planet

By: Turtleland

Turtleland — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:42:15 +0000

dre’s already touched on this over 25 years ago he has a song called The Planet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTE0rkt7N4

By: Messier Tidy Upper

Messier Tidy Upper — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:58:59 +0000

I think we have to allow a certain amount of artistic &/or poetic license when it comes to these sort of things.

Enjoy them for what they are, they’re not intended to be scientifically valid.

I love Holsts’s Planets Suite – there’s a lot of musical range & varied images evoked from “Mars the bringer of War” which is thunderously good through to the subtle quiet opening of “Neptune the mystic” – all fitting in an emotional arty sense. Astrology is bunk but I wouldn’t call Holst’s work ‘astrology’ as such. You can read a lot more (or less) into the music as you choose.

Classical music~wise the musical of War ofthe Worlds had me hooked and blown away as a kid.

I’m also surprised no one has yet mentioned (unless I missed it) some of Pink Floyd’s songs ‘Astronomy Domine’, ‘Set the controls for the Heart of the Sun’ &, of course, ,‘Dark Side of the Moon’ where a voice at the end accurately observes : “{There isn’t a dark side of the moon} – Matter of fact it’s all dark.”

By: Sauss

Sauss — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:15:21 +0000

There’s a much woo potential in this as in Van Gogh painting ‘Starry Night’. Artistic expression is a different department.

By: JoDaWi

JoDaWi — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 01:30:42 +0000

instrumental rap is easy when you shut off the idiot microphone. Then you have something worth listening to at least one time; probably even worth dancing to.

the boytoy car rockers will jam it down the street playin to the ladies…

By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM

Torbjörn Larsson, OM — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:51:16 +0000

Dre’s lyrics bashing women

Sorry, I’ve stopped listening to lyrics. That may be one reason…

@ Brian Schlosser:

Hip-Hop Academic Credential Shocker! “Dr” Dre does not really possess a PhD or an MD!

And board presidents aren’t presidents, you know. But they _do_ earn a title without inflating it, to anchor my point.

Why the defensiveness/obsessiveness? The purloining was a correct observation.

By: QuietDesperation

QuietDesperation — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:28:16 +0000

If you like progressive metal, here’s a whole album of astronomy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Migrator_Part_2:_Flight_of_the_Migrator

There’s some woo themes, too, but it really is quite smashing.

And another about advanced aliens seeding life on other worlds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/01011001

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:44:26 +0000

As others poster’s have pointed out, the Holst suite is based on astrology rather than astronomy. Holst was a total astrology nut. Fortunately, the great thing about great music is that it is open to a variety of interpretations and can inspire on a variety of levels. This is certainly true of “The Planets”.

By: Oscar

Oscar — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:59:53 +0000

John Coltrane did his take on the planets, though he labeled the album “Interstellar Space” – not sure why? It has “Mars”, “Venus”, “Jupiter” and “Saturn” (in addition to “Leo” and
“Jupiter Variation “). Pretty good if you like jazz. Bet it had an influence on Dr. Dre.

By: JediBear

JediBear — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:56:50 +0000

I have to say, I approve of this new direction and I’ll be interested to hear the results. I’m not a fan of rap, but I can’t disapprove of something like this.

Of course, I think he’s all talk, so we’ll see.

By: RobertBeq

RobertBeq — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:53:49 +0000

I’d just like to know how he is going to show an instrumental hip-hop Saturn with its rings sagging down exposing its underwear, with or without surround sound.

By: Doug Watts

Doug Watts — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:05:43 +0000

Just a reminder, by definition, all works of fiction, and all science fiction, are “woo.” Here’s my off-of the-top-of-my-head top ten pop songs using astronomical (rather than astrological) themes.

1. Telstar, the Ventures.
2. It Came Out of The Sky, CCR.
3. Hey Mr. Spaceman, The Byrds.
4. Third Stone from the Sun, Jimi Hendrix Experience.
5. Satellite of Love, Lou Reed.
6. Space Guitar, Johnny ‘Guitar’ Watson
7. Colliding Galaxies, Sonny Probe.
8. The Radio is Broken, Frank Zappa (esp. for ref. to COBE microwave data)
9. Voodoo Chile, Jimi Hendrix (Jupiter’s sulphur mines, way down by the methane seas).
10. That’s Amore, Dean Martin.

By: Nubbenstein

Nubbenstein — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:30:01 +0000

I’m a bit of a nerd (science teacher) and rap aficionado. There’s an artist named El-P who is a very talented producer and musician. He’s known for doing weird, sci-fi stuff (one of his songs is titled, ‘How to Serve Man Thing’s I’d Never Say.’) He just released an instrumental album that I thought of instantly when I read about this.

Also, here’s a link to Aesop Rock’s amazing song, ‘Bring Back Pluto’ produced by El-P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG8bD28Ek84

Warning to little readers, the language is a little harsh.

By: Autumn

Autumn — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:25:42 +0000

Oh, I’m sorry, I was looking for a different post with the tags, “Gustav Holst” and “Dr. Dre”.

By: Cairnos

Cairnos — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:07:04 +0000

@20 Cory – Totally agree, Shakespear was the one who brought us such subtle and decorous phrases as “The black ram is tupping your white ewe” to give one example that springs immediately to mind

By: viggen

viggen — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:48:39 +0000

though I’m a little concerned with what he means by “the personalities of each planet”

Considering circle where Dre generally rolls, Jupiter will be a banger with the top down in the midst of a drive-by. Saturn will just be chillin. I’ll be all for hearing it just to see what he comes up with, particularly if it’s instrumental. He may really surprise us all by being dead on somehow.

By: Keith Landa

Keith Landa — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:46:38 +0000

Comments on the Vibe article led to a Planets album by One Ring Zero, available now….:

http://oneringzero.com/planets/

By: Steve Morrison

Steve Morrison — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:23:59 +0000

Zarathustra wasn’t a Zoroastrian deity, he was the man who founded the religion. And the Strauss piece isn’t about him in any case; it’s inspired by the Nietzsche book of the same name, which merely uses Zarathustra as a mouthpiece for Nietzsche’s ideas.

By: Thomas Siefert

Thomas Siefert — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:02:22 +0000

It all comes down to whether he used a telescope like astronomers or if he went down the path of astrologers and used a kaleidoscope.

By: Cory

Cory — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:13:25 +0000

@9. Shakespeare was anything but classy in his time period. His plays were raunchy and violent, often to crazy extremes. I wouldn’t call Dr. Dre a Shakespeare, but subject matter is not what separates the two.

By: jcm

jcm — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:08:58 +0000

Speaking of which, live recording by the Peabody Concert Orchestra of Holst's musical composition can be found here. (Look under the 2002-2003 season.)

By: this charming man

this charming man — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:31:09 +0000

Dr. Dre, from what I understand, is an astronomy buff. He is also a good producer, so I would imagine this would not be some lame album attempt. (full disclosure, I am ryan gagne)

By: mike

mike — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:29:20 +0000

Sorry, guys, but this album is never going to happen. Never. It was almost ten years between the Chronic and 2001, and he’s been talking about his next album for almost ten years more. Aftermath cancels projects more often than NASA. Don’t hold your breath for this one.

By: greg

greg — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:44:51 +0000

I would love for this to be paired with some NASA IMAX film. Work your way through the solar system of NASA images paired with Dre’s music? Hell yes. And it couldn’t get more surround sound than an IMAX theater.

By: Tribeca Mike

Tribeca Mike — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:24:45 +0000

Calli Arcale, I was only making with zee leetle joke.