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	<title>Comments on: And I saw a star rising in&#8230; the WEST?</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: André</title>
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		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Phil and followers,

living in the centre of Berlin, I find it fascinating to see how bright the Space Station-passes usually are even though there is strong light pollution above the city. It always makes me think about how the Astro-/Cosmonauts see the big citys after sunset from up there. 

The third picture (sagittarius) struck me most. It is a long time since I actually saw the milky way THAT way! I mean, clearly shimmering through the darkness like a nebula. 
I believe it was at an english rural camping-site when I was sixteen. 

Is there a better chance to have that impression at certain longitudes and latitudes around the earth? Or is it just light-pollution and weather-conditions? Why, for example, is an image of a clear desert-sky associated best with a good SEE?

Regardless of that, it is surprising to me how much you actually CAN see with only a pair of binoculars - even if you are in the midst of a big city. 

André from Berlin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Phil and followers,</p>
<p>living in the centre of Berlin, I find it fascinating to see how bright the Space Station-passes usually are even though there is strong light pollution above the city. It always makes me think about how the Astro-/Cosmonauts see the big citys after sunset from up there. </p>
<p>The third picture (sagittarius) struck me most. It is a long time since I actually saw the milky way THAT way! I mean, clearly shimmering through the darkness like a nebula.<br />
I believe it was at an english rural camping-site when I was sixteen. </p>
<p>Is there a better chance to have that impression at certain longitudes and latitudes around the earth? Or is it just light-pollution and weather-conditions? Why, for example, is an image of a clear desert-sky associated best with a good SEE?</p>
<p>Regardless of that, it is surprising to me how much you actually CAN see with only a pair of binoculars &#8211; even if you are in the midst of a big city. </p>
<p>André from Berlin</p>
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		<title>By: Stuck in the Lagoon’s quagmire &#124; Bad Astronomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuck in the Lagoon’s quagmire &#124; Bad Astronomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fred edison</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a Rush concert a couple of weeks ago (yes, they rocked).  I was scanning the sky, which is a habit of mine, and there it was piercing the night with its brilliance.  I enjoyed two great shows for the price of one.

I caught up with the ISS again last Caturday evening.   It appeared to be a dull red as it rose, passed nearly overhead a dazzling white, and again turned a dull red before it disappeared near the tree-line.  I looked over to the SW and saw the low hanging crescent Moon appearing especially large and gorgeous, reinvigorating my already abundant appreciation for astronomy and the celestial mechanics that control it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a Rush concert a couple of weeks ago (yes, they rocked).  I was scanning the sky, which is a habit of mine, and there it was piercing the night with its brilliance.  I enjoyed two great shows for the price of one.</p>
<p>I caught up with the ISS again last Caturday evening.   It appeared to be a dull red as it rose, passed nearly overhead a dazzling white, and again turned a dull red before it disappeared near the tree-line.  I looked over to the SW and saw the low hanging crescent Moon appearing especially large and gorgeous, reinvigorating my already abundant appreciation for astronomy and the celestial mechanics that control it all.</p>
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		<title>By: SchreiberBike</title>
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		<dc:creator>SchreiberBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspired by this post, I just watched the ISS go overhead. I got slightly different information from heavens-above and from NASA Skywatch, but it came up in the neighborhood of both of them and it was quite impressive. 

Had I not known what it was, I would have assumed it was a high flying plane and when it didn&#039;t wink out as it moved to the east, I would have figured out that it must be a satellite. 

A fun experience. Thanks for the inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspired by this post, I just watched the ISS go overhead. I got slightly different information from heavens-above and from NASA Skywatch, but it came up in the neighborhood of both of them and it was quite impressive. </p>
<p>Had I not known what it was, I would have assumed it was a high flying plane and when it didn&#8217;t wink out as it moved to the east, I would have figured out that it must be a satellite. </p>
<p>A fun experience. Thanks for the inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Menyambal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menyambal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, thank you very much.

I followed the Heavens Above link, and got the ISS data for 37, -93 (I have memorized my approximate lat/long now). I hadn&#039;t seen it for a few years, so I thought I&#039;d try.

My wife, daughter and I had been having a bad evening, family-wise, and things were rather tense by 8:40. I asked my wife if she wanted to see the ISS go over, and she rather reluctantly followed me out into the street. 

The night was clear, but there&#039;s an inconvenient streetlight, and trees, and I really hadn&#039;t got the time and direction data menorized, and the daughter was on the computer, so I thought the whole thing was going to be a loss (I&#039;d stood in the same place once, waiting for the re-entering Space Shuttle, and had missed it).

Then I saw a steady spot of light moving up exactly between two trees. I decided to run in and drag out the daughter, and we got back in plenty of time to see it still rising. 

It went almost straight overhead, very bright and steady, while we talked about what we we seeing. (The kid is a real smart-ass, so it isn&#039;t often I can tell her about anything.) I said 500 miles up and a 90-minute orbit, which both can&#039;t be right, but it sounded impressive.

Then, just past overhead, it did exactly what I said it would, and dimmed out. But it did a spectacular color shift into red as it went, and went out like a dying spark. That was something I had never seen before.

So we went back in and went back to our different activities, but we&#039;d had a good time and a family moment or two, and all had seen something new, thanks to me and thanks to you.

Thanks, Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, thank you very much.</p>
<p>I followed the Heavens Above link, and got the ISS data for 37, -93 (I have memorized my approximate lat/long now). I hadn&#8217;t seen it for a few years, so I thought I&#8217;d try.</p>
<p>My wife, daughter and I had been having a bad evening, family-wise, and things were rather tense by 8:40. I asked my wife if she wanted to see the ISS go over, and she rather reluctantly followed me out into the street. </p>
<p>The night was clear, but there&#8217;s an inconvenient streetlight, and trees, and I really hadn&#8217;t got the time and direction data menorized, and the daughter was on the computer, so I thought the whole thing was going to be a loss (I&#8217;d stood in the same place once, waiting for the re-entering Space Shuttle, and had missed it).</p>
<p>Then I saw a steady spot of light moving up exactly between two trees. I decided to run in and drag out the daughter, and we got back in plenty of time to see it still rising. </p>
<p>It went almost straight overhead, very bright and steady, while we talked about what we we seeing. (The kid is a real smart-ass, so it isn&#8217;t often I can tell her about anything.) I said 500 miles up and a 90-minute orbit, which both can&#8217;t be right, but it sounded impressive.</p>
<p>Then, just past overhead, it did exactly what I said it would, and dimmed out. But it did a spectacular color shift into red as it went, and went out like a dying spark. That was something I had never seen before.</p>
<p>So we went back in and went back to our different activities, but we&#8217;d had a good time and a family moment or two, and all had seen something new, thanks to me and thanks to you.</p>
<p>Thanks, Phil.</p>
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		<title>By: kroosing to '42' via '37'</title>
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		<dc:creator>kroosing to '42' via '37'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #14 hale-bopp:

Thank you, man!  I wanted to ask about it here today, because when I did on a local astronomy forum some time ago, I only got rolling eyes in reply.  I thought it was too short to visualize on photo.  
 I have seen the ISS turn red before disappearing on two occasions, though a lot shorter than in your description, or can be made out from the photo.  That looks like at least a couple of seconds right?
Man, am I happy, you really made my day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #14 hale-bopp:</p>
<p>Thank you, man!  I wanted to ask about it here today, because when I did on a local astronomy forum some time ago, I only got rolling eyes in reply.  I thought it was too short to visualize on photo.<br />
 I have seen the ISS turn red before disappearing on two occasions, though a lot shorter than in your description, or can be made out from the photo.  That looks like at least a couple of seconds right?<br />
Man, am I happy, you really made my day!</p>
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		<title>By: GA</title>
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		<dc:creator>GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this one night my kids and I were sitting in our car in the parking lot of Macy&#039;s, waiting for my wife to come back. I was fooling around with my iPhone, and typed &quot;ISS&quot; in the Wolfram Alpha search engine, just for the heck of it.

The projection on the map showed that it was probably going to fly over us soon. Quickly jumped over the HSF Orbital Tracking page on NASA and confirmed that there was going to be a pass directly overhead in about a minute.

So we go out into the parking lot and scan our eyes towards where it is supposed to appear. We must have missed the first few seconds of it, but suddenly there it was, passing right overhead, brighter than anything else in the evening sky. We tracked it all the way across the sky, until it faded from our view.

The other people in the parking lot were probably wondering why there was a grown man and two kids jumping up and down in the parking lot and pointing up at the sky. All I could do was be amazed by the state of technology today. Sitting in a mall parking lot, we could find out when a satellite (which itself is another amazing piece of technology) was going to pass directly overhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this one night my kids and I were sitting in our car in the parking lot of Macy&#8217;s, waiting for my wife to come back. I was fooling around with my iPhone, and typed &#8220;ISS&#8221; in the Wolfram Alpha search engine, just for the heck of it.</p>
<p>The projection on the map showed that it was probably going to fly over us soon. Quickly jumped over the HSF Orbital Tracking page on NASA and confirmed that there was going to be a pass directly overhead in about a minute.</p>
<p>So we go out into the parking lot and scan our eyes towards where it is supposed to appear. We must have missed the first few seconds of it, but suddenly there it was, passing right overhead, brighter than anything else in the evening sky. We tracked it all the way across the sky, until it faded from our view.</p>
<p>The other people in the parking lot were probably wondering why there was a grown man and two kids jumping up and down in the parking lot and pointing up at the sky. All I could do was be amazed by the state of technology today. Sitting in a mall parking lot, we could find out when a satellite (which itself is another amazing piece of technology) was going to pass directly overhead.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a kind of related note, Uranus is really close to Jupiter (as view from Earth of course) right now making it extremely easy to find.  Well worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a kind of related note, Uranus is really close to Jupiter (as view from Earth of course) right now making it extremely easy to find.  Well worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was out last night to try a triple shot - a bright ISS pass, a-7 Iridium flare, and a flyover of the X37B. Missed ISS because it was too bright out (only 10 minutes after sunset), got the flare, but the weird part was the X37B flyover.

We saw the object flying over, and I fired off the shutter on my camera. The craft went across the sky, going just under Altair, and disappeared to the east. I then closed the shutter on my camera, and looked at the image on the LCD.

The Milky Way was visible, all the stars were beautiful, &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;but no X37B flyover!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Obviously the spaceplane has a stealth mode that allows you to see it visually, but not by cameras... &lt;u&gt;there&#039;s&lt;/u&gt; your conspiracy theory!!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was out last night to try a triple shot &#8211; a bright ISS pass, a-7 Iridium flare, and a flyover of the X37B. Missed ISS because it was too bright out (only 10 minutes after sunset), got the flare, but the weird part was the X37B flyover.</p>
<p>We saw the object flying over, and I fired off the shutter on my camera. The craft went across the sky, going just under Altair, and disappeared to the east. I then closed the shutter on my camera, and looked at the image on the LCD.</p>
<p>The Milky Way was visible, all the stars were beautiful, <b><i>but no X37B flyover!</i></b> Obviously the spaceplane has a stealth mode that allows you to see it visually, but not by cameras&#8230; <u>there&#8217;s</u> your conspiracy theory!!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bramblyspam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bramblyspam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos the title: My wife and I actually saw the sun rising in the west in the evening, a few weeks ago. We were taking off from an airport at just the right time; the sun had already set when we were taking off from ground level, but it rose back above the horizon as the plane gained altitude. &#039;Twas kinda neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos the title: My wife and I actually saw the sun rising in the west in the evening, a few weeks ago. We were taking off from an airport at just the right time; the sun had already set when we were taking off from ground level, but it rose back above the horizon as the plane gained altitude. &#8216;Twas kinda neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can the space station have been brighter than Jupiter, if it was only twice as bright as Arcturus?</description>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If folks are wondering sources / relevant links here : 

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/alnasl.html 

for W Sgr

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/sgr-t.html 

For the handy labelled Sagittarius map via Kaler&#039;s Stars website &amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_(constellation) 

For the wikipedia page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If folks are wondering sources / relevant links here : </p>
<p><a href="http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/alnasl.html" rel="nofollow">http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/alnasl.html</a> </p>
<p>for W Sgr</p>
<p><a href="http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/sgr-t.html" rel="nofollow">http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/sgr-t.html</a> </p>
<p>For the handy labelled Sagittarius map via Kaler&#8217;s Stars website &#038; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_(constellation)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_(constellation)</a> </p>
<p>For the wikipedia page.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome photos &amp; great to read about your personal observing. :-) 

Nice photo of the &quot;teapot&quot; astetrism even if it is upside down owing to your being the other hemisphere! 

Did you know the star on the tip of the teapot&#039;s spout Al Nasl Gamma-2 Sagittarii or Al Nasl which sounds wonderfully like &quot;the nozzle&quot; has a Cepeheid variable partner Gamma-1 or W Sagittarii that varies between magnitudes 4.3 and 5.1 over a 7.59 day period? 

Or that of the 8 main stars making up the &quot;teapot&quot; half of them &lt;i&gt; 
(Al Nasl - Gamma-2 Sagittarii, Kaus Borealis - Lambda Sgr, Hecatebolus or Tau Sgr &amp; Kaus Media or Kaus Meridionalis - Delta Sgr)&lt;/i&gt; are also - like Arcturus - orange giant stars. 

Of the other four, 3 of of spectral type B with Nunki &lt;i&gt;(Sigma Sgr)&lt;/i&gt; being a B2.5 blue dwarf star, Nanto &lt;i&gt;(Phi Sgr)&lt;/i&gt; being a B8 blue sub-giant and Kaus Australis &lt;i&gt;(Epsilon - and yet being the brightest star in the constellation despite that Greek letter.)&lt;/i&gt; being a B9.5 blue giant. The other teapot star Ascella &lt;i&gt;(Zeta Sgr)&lt;/i&gt; is a binary comprising an A2 white giant and an A4 &lt;strike&gt;paper&lt;/strike&gt; Sirian sub-giant. 

If folks wish to know which stars is which, in order running from the tip of the spout  towards the handle and back again &lt;i&gt; (anti-clockwise)&lt;/i&gt; 
they are :


Al Nasl, 
Kaus Media aka Kaus Meridionalis, 
Kaus Borealis &lt;i&gt;(tip of the lid with M28 just above it on the spout side &amp; M24 above on the handle side)&lt;/i&gt; 
Nanto or usually just Phi, 
Nunki &lt;i&gt;(top of the handle)&lt;/i&gt; 
Hecatebolus or usually just Tau,
Ascella &lt;i&gt; (Marking the handle-base join with M54, M70 &amp; M69 running along the base of the teapot)&lt;/i&gt; 
&amp; finally
Kaus Australis marking the base of the spout. 

NB. I only found out the proper names for Phi (Nanto)  and Tau (Hecatebolus) the other day via Wikipedia.

Hope folks find that interesting / useful / enjoyable. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome photos &#038; great to read about your personal observing. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Nice photo of the &#8220;teapot&#8221; astetrism even if it is upside down owing to your being the other hemisphere! </p>
<p>Did you know the star on the tip of the teapot&#8217;s spout Al Nasl Gamma-2 Sagittarii or Al Nasl which sounds wonderfully like &#8220;the nozzle&#8221; has a Cepeheid variable partner Gamma-1 or W Sagittarii that varies between magnitudes 4.3 and 5.1 over a 7.59 day period? </p>
<p>Or that of the 8 main stars making up the &#8220;teapot&#8221; half of them <i><br />
(Al Nasl &#8211; Gamma-2 Sagittarii, Kaus Borealis &#8211; Lambda Sgr, Hecatebolus or Tau Sgr &#038; Kaus Media or Kaus Meridionalis &#8211; Delta Sgr)</i> are also &#8211; like Arcturus &#8211; orange giant stars. </p>
<p>Of the other four, 3 of of spectral type B with Nunki <i>(Sigma Sgr)</i> being a B2.5 blue dwarf star, Nanto <i>(Phi Sgr)</i> being a B8 blue sub-giant and Kaus Australis <i>(Epsilon &#8211; and yet being the brightest star in the constellation despite that Greek letter.)</i> being a B9.5 blue giant. The other teapot star Ascella <i>(Zeta Sgr)</i> is a binary comprising an A2 white giant and an A4 <strike>paper</strike> Sirian sub-giant. </p>
<p>If folks wish to know which stars is which, in order running from the tip of the spout  towards the handle and back again <i> (anti-clockwise)</i><br />
they are :</p>
<p>Al Nasl,<br />
Kaus Media aka Kaus Meridionalis,<br />
Kaus Borealis <i>(tip of the lid with M28 just above it on the spout side &#038; M24 above on the handle side)</i><br />
Nanto or usually just Phi,<br />
Nunki <i>(top of the handle)</i><br />
Hecatebolus or usually just Tau,<br />
Ascella <i> (Marking the handle-base join with M54, M70 &#038; M69 running along the base of the teapot)</i><br />
&#038; finally<br />
Kaus Australis marking the base of the spout. </p>
<p>NB. I only found out the proper names for Phi (Nanto)  and Tau (Hecatebolus) the other day via Wikipedia.</p>
<p>Hope folks find that interesting / useful / enjoyable. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most amazing shuttle pass I have seen so far was the STS-71 mission, the first joint mission with Russia...Atlantis visited MIR...it was July 4th, the shuttle separated from MIR, and flew directly overhead here in Hawaii while we were watching the fireworks at the beach...they were close together, both going thru the fireworks display towards the moon...remarkable, as I remember the &quot;cold war&quot; times....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most amazing shuttle pass I have seen so far was the STS-71 mission, the first joint mission with Russia&#8230;Atlantis visited MIR&#8230;it was July 4th, the shuttle separated from MIR, and flew directly overhead here in Hawaii while we were watching the fireworks at the beach&#8230;they were close together, both going thru the fireworks display towards the moon&#8230;remarkable, as I remember the &#8220;cold war&#8221; times&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile here in San Jose, CA....
Just watched the ISS pass by, thanks for putting the heads up out on this, Phil!  This was the first time i saw the ISS, me and my girlfriend enjoyed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile here in San Jose, CA&#8230;.<br />
Just watched the ISS pass by, thanks for putting the heads up out on this, Phil!  This was the first time i saw the ISS, me and my girlfriend enjoyed it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitcham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Mitcham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get more stars in a 15 second camera exposure than I can see with my naked, dark-adjusted eye in my backyard just outside of Baltimore. 

I&#039;m jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get more stars in a 15 second camera exposure than I can see with my naked, dark-adjusted eye in my backyard just outside of Baltimore. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another site which just via zip code allows you to quickly check for the ISS and other satellite flyovers: http://spaceweather.com/flybys/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another site which just via zip code allows you to quickly check for the ISS and other satellite flyovers: <a href="http://spaceweather.com/flybys/" rel="nofollow">http://spaceweather.com/flybys/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using Heavens Above for the past couple of years.  Great resource site, too.  Caught the ISS last night.  The pass was particularly pretty, with the ISS being -3.5 magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Heavens Above for the past couple of years.  Great resource site, too.  Caught the ISS last night.  The pass was particularly pretty, with the ISS being -3.5 magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Navneeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navneeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t let the facts that you are a &quot;close, personal friend of Adam Savage [TM]&quot;  or you that have your own show on Discovery Channel bother me too much, Phil. But with that last shot, I&#039;m officially envious of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t let the facts that you are a &#8220;close, personal friend of Adam Savage [TM]&#8221;  or you that have your own show on Discovery Channel bother me too much, Phil. But with that last shot, I&#8217;m officially envious of you.</p>
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		<title>By: zAmboni</title>
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		<dc:creator>zAmboni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometime in March I tried a widefield shot to capture the ISS and it came out pretty nice.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zamb0ni/4408804885/in/set-72157607505443083/

I&#039;m sure you can identify the constellation it is moving through :).  The ISS also crossed over into the Earth&#039;s shadow like Phil saw.

MichaelL - I did mine with a Canon 300D + kit lens at 18mm.  45s at ISO 400  (Had to turn the ISO down because I live in a horribly light polluted area).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometime in March I tried a widefield shot to capture the ISS and it came out pretty nice.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zamb0ni/4408804885/in/set-72157607505443083/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/zamb0ni/4408804885/in/set-72157607505443083/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you can identify the constellation it is moving through <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  The ISS also crossed over into the Earth&#8217;s shadow like Phil saw.</p>
<p>MichaelL &#8211; I did mine with a Canon 300D + kit lens at 18mm.  45s at ISO 400  (Had to turn the ISO down because I live in a horribly light polluted area).</p>
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		<title>By: NAW</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best I got to see was both the ISS and shuttle (forget which one, years ago) one night. They had just separated and were just a couple of degree apart from each other. Sadly, I had no camera or the skill at the time to take a photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best I got to see was both the ISS and shuttle (forget which one, years ago) one night. They had just separated and were just a couple of degree apart from each other. Sadly, I had no camera or the skill at the time to take a photo.</p>
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		<title>By: hale-bopp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hale-bopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the ISS disappears, it doesn&#039;t quite blink out.  Rather, it fades as the astronauts go through sunset.  I blogged about a pass of the ISS and shuttle last November and got a nice pic of the ISS fading out.  You can clearly see the color change to a reddish tint as the ISS passes into Earth&#039;s shadow.

http://halfastro.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/thanksgiving-iss-and-shuttle-pass/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the ISS disappears, it doesn&#8217;t quite blink out.  Rather, it fades as the astronauts go through sunset.  I blogged about a pass of the ISS and shuttle last November and got a nice pic of the ISS fading out.  You can clearly see the color change to a reddish tint as the ISS passes into Earth&#8217;s shadow.</p>
<p><a href="http://halfastro.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/thanksgiving-iss-and-shuttle-pass/" rel="nofollow">http://halfastro.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/thanksgiving-iss-and-shuttle-pass/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been too cloudy here for me to see the ISS. Darn it!

But I do recall the times I could; even with the naked eye, it&#039;s still awesome. Never saw it cross into Earth&#039;s shadow, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been too cloudy here for me to see the ISS. Darn it!</p>
<p>But I do recall the times I could; even with the naked eye, it&#8217;s still awesome. Never saw it cross into Earth&#8217;s shadow, though.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, just curious as to the type of camera you used.  Was it a &quot;point and shoot&quot; digital, or a DSLR?  I have a Canon Rebel DSLR and have tried to do some sky shots, but haven&#039;t had much success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, just curious as to the type of camera you used.  Was it a &#8220;point and shoot&#8221; digital, or a DSLR?  I have a Canon Rebel DSLR and have tried to do some sky shots, but haven&#8217;t had much success.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice photo!

If you&#039;d waited another ~30 mins, you&#039;d have seen Progress M-07M/39P fly over as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice photo!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d waited another ~30 mins, you&#8217;d have seen Progress M-07M/39P fly over as well!</p>
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