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		<title>By: Education links &#171; amtiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Education links &#171; amtiv</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Give Yourself &#38; Others The Gift Of Your Larger Involvement In Public Affairs&#8212;TPA Blogger Round-Up &#171; Texas Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give Yourself &#38; Others The Gift Of Your Larger Involvement In Public Affairs&#8212;TPA Blogger Round-Up &#171; Texas Liberal</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] And , of course, Texans know that Santa is a Texan.  Nobody else is aware of that fact, but I&#8217;m sure it is being taught in our schools by order of the far right-wing Texas State Board of Education. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Grace (76) -
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Agreed!</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ MTU (the rest of comment 74) -
&lt;i&gt;Please&lt;/i&gt; stop jabbering on about how much you hate Obama and how his upbringing and  policies are going to bring about the end of civilisation as we know it.

We get that you vehemently disagree with him in several areas, and most of us don&#039;t care.  Maybe you should move to the USA so you can vote for the other guy next time, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MTU (the rest of comment 74) -<br />
<i>Please</i> stop jabbering on about how much you hate Obama and how his upbringing and  policies are going to bring about the end of civilisation as we know it.</p>
<p>We get that you vehemently disagree with him in several areas, and most of us don&#8217;t care.  Maybe you should move to the USA so you can vote for the other guy next time, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTU (74) said
&lt;blockquote&gt;Way to miss the point, mate.  

I was responding to somebody else – #3. Jason B. – who was accusing me of being pro-Obama &amp; pointing out that I wasn’t. I also raised the irrelevance of Obama’s past misdeeds myself so gee isn’t it nice to get you slamming me for that&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, he wasn&#039;t.  He was saying that the alleged witchdcraft was of perhaps less significance than some other stuff, such as the alleged cocaine use that Obama allegedly admitted (! :-)).  Allegedly.

So, you didn&#039;t mention drug use at all, and Jason B never mentioned NASA.  (Or so it is alleged.)

Now, in the last sentence of your comment, you &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; make a real and sensible point (that those various past misdemeanours are irrelevant to the current situation), and I agree with that.

But the middle paragraph of your comment contributed nothing to that point - it was just your habitual anti-Obama rant (albeit shorter than usual), and &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is what I objected to in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTU (74) said</p>
<blockquote><p>Way to miss the point, mate.  </p>
<p>I was responding to somebody else – #3. Jason B. – who was accusing me of being pro-Obama &#038; pointing out that I wasn’t. I also raised the irrelevance of Obama’s past misdeeds myself so gee isn’t it nice to get you slamming me for that</p></blockquote>
<p>No, he wasn&#8217;t.  He was saying that the alleged witchdcraft was of perhaps less significance than some other stuff, such as the alleged cocaine use that Obama allegedly admitted (! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  Allegedly.</p>
<p>So, you didn&#8217;t mention drug use at all, and Jason B never mentioned NASA.  (Or so it is alleged.)</p>
<p>Now, in the last sentence of your comment, you <i>did</i> make a real and sensible point (that those various past misdemeanours are irrelevant to the current situation), and I agree with that.</p>
<p>But the middle paragraph of your comment contributed nothing to that point &#8211; it was just your habitual anti-Obama rant (albeit shorter than usual), and <i>that</i> is what I objected to in this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calli Arcale (68) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In a school board, you may be influencing the person who will become President in thirty years, or someone else of great influence, and that expands your reach much further than you might realize.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed!

And, even more importantly, you will be influencing the &lt;i&gt;voters&lt;/i&gt; of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calli Arcale (68) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a school board, you may be influencing the person who will become President in thirty years, or someone else of great influence, and that expands your reach much further than you might realize.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed!</p>
<p>And, even more importantly, you will be influencing the <i>voters</i> of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am soooo frighten of you people.... i am Mexican and i hate what your Arizona state is doing to our people ... regarding the politics or skin color theme or if we are taking of the jobs which btw you dont like to do ..... I was wondering why you act as if inmigrants are not human beings .... buuuuuut now I jsut read about ISLAM IS A FALSE RELIGION .... WTF !!!!!   ... I just relize you people think and worst of all BELIEVE you are the owners of the only one true !!!!! My God !!! you&#039;re soooo SELFISH .... then answer me why your culture is falling apart since 50&#039;s??? why you&#039;re selling the guns which are killing not only our people in the narco war, or people from countries where you have your soliders in but your own soldiers too !?!?!?! cause for some americans ( I know that  fortunatelly not all americans I know some very extraordinary ones) they just want to be richer no matter if is your own people who are killing......  so one day you&#039;ll understand we are a global comunity .. AND FOR EDUCATED USA AMERICANS is no matter of subject ..... all of this is about ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am soooo frighten of you people&#8230;. i am Mexican and i hate what your Arizona state is doing to our people &#8230; regarding the politics or skin color theme or if we are taking of the jobs which btw you dont like to do &#8230;.. I was wondering why you act as if inmigrants are not human beings &#8230;. buuuuuut now I jsut read about ISLAM IS A FALSE RELIGION &#8230;. WTF !!!!!   &#8230; I just relize you people think and worst of all BELIEVE you are the owners of the only one true !!!!! My God !!! you&#8217;re soooo SELFISH &#8230;. then answer me why your culture is falling apart since 50&#8242;s??? why you&#8217;re selling the guns which are killing not only our people in the narco war, or people from countries where you have your soliders in but your own soldiers too !?!?!?! cause for some americans ( I know that  fortunatelly not all americans I know some very extraordinary ones) they just want to be richer no matter if is your own people who are killing&#8230;&#8230;  so one day you&#8217;ll understand we are a global comunity .. AND FOR EDUCATED USA AMERICANS is no matter of subject &#8230;.. all of this is about ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: CTteacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTteacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Muslim-fathered, Indonesian-raised President Barack Hussein Obama has bowed’n’scraped and kow-towed far too much to the Arab dictators&quot;   

Mmm, yes, as opposed to his predecessor, from the educationally-advanced state of...Texas.  http://www.newsbleat.com/bush_kiss.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Muslim-fathered, Indonesian-raised President Barack Hussein Obama has bowed’n’scraped and kow-towed far too much to the Arab dictators&#8221;   </p>
<p>Mmm, yes, as opposed to his predecessor, from the educationally-advanced state of&#8230;Texas.  <a href="http://www.newsbleat.com/bush_kiss.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsbleat.com/bush_kiss.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@72.   Tribeca Mike  : Thanks. :-)

@58.   Nigel Depledge Says: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Enough, already. Quit threadjkacking with your anti-Obama whingeing. This has nothing to do with the Texas State BoE.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Way to miss the point, mate. :roll:

I was responding to somebody else - #3. Jason B. - who was accusing me of being pro-Obama &amp; pointing out that I wasn&#039;t. I also raised the irrelevance of Obama&#039;s past misdeeds myself so gee isn&#039;t it nice to get you slamming me for that? :roll: 

@61. The Chemist Says: 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;@MTU #5, I’m sorry, Obama’s pro-Muslim because he doesn’t feel like they should be wiped from the face of the Earth?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is *far* more to Obama&#039;s blatant pro-islam bias than just that - as you should be well know. :-(

The Muslim-fathered,  Indonesian-raised President Barack Hussein Obama has bowed&#039;n&#039;scraped and kow-towed far too much to the Arab dictators. BHO has consistently been far too weak on the Muslim world, esp. Iran, and far too harsh on the one oasis of civilisation in a region that is otherwise a wasteland of barbarism &amp; oppression - the Jewish nation of Israel. 

Its a whole other topic or twenty &amp; I could expand on this at great length here but I won&#039;t. 

I&#039;ll just note that &lt;b&gt;NO US President&lt;/b&gt;  - not even the much maligned George W. Bush - &lt;b&gt;has *ever* advocated &quot;wiping the Muslims off the face of the earth&quot;&lt;/b&gt; so your suggestion implying Obama is the only one to hold that view is not merely spectacularly ridiculous but is an offensive slander as well.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;And anti-Israel? Gimmee a break. With the most right-wing Knesset in recent memory, it’s impossible to be reasonable and agree with them at the same time.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? :roll:

I could say so very much to put the opposite case here. Don&#039;t tempt me. This is probaby - no, definitely - not the right venue for a long and detailed full discussion &amp; outlining of all the facts &amp; the whole case for Israel* here. 

Suffice to say, you are totally in error. Israel is &amp; has been throughout its history far more reasonable with the Arabs, incl,. the Palestinians, than they deserve. 

Israel has repeatedly egaged in peace talks, handed back land painfully and expensively won in its battles for survival and has shown a rather staggering willingness to compromise with individual Muslim dictators and even terrorists groups who are determined to exterminate them and wipe the Jews off the map and into the sea. Israel gave the Palestinians back Gaza and large parts of Judea and Samaria (the &quot;West bank&quot;) and got back in retrun only Hamas rockets and Jihadist hatred day in and day out. The Israelis are tring to defend themselves against the genocide threatened by the Islamic world. They have a right to exist and a right to defend themmselves  - period.  

Obama is making life needlessly harder for them when he should be following the traditional and entirely ethical and well-justified policy of US support for the Jewish state against its bloodthirsty, anti-Semitic, murderous enemies.

Why exactly, The Chemist, may I ask &amp; get a brief answer please, do you seemingly support the side of those wishing to exterminate Israel and engage in another anti-Semitic genocide? What would *you* do in Israel&#039;s shoes, faced with enemies who refuse to make peace and keep attacking you with unparalleled savagery throughout your entire existence? 
 
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* &lt;i&gt;The Case for Israel&#039;&lt;/i&gt;  btw. is the title of a book by Alan Derschowitz  (John Wley &amp; Sons, 2003.) that I&#039;d recommend anyone interested in this topic reads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@72.   Tribeca Mike  : Thanks. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@58.   Nigel Depledge Says: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Enough, already. Quit threadjkacking with your anti-Obama whingeing. This has nothing to do with the Texas State BoE.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Way to miss the point, mate. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was responding to somebody else &#8211; #3. Jason B. &#8211; who was accusing me of being pro-Obama &#038; pointing out that I wasn&#8217;t. I also raised the irrelevance of Obama&#8217;s past misdeeds myself so gee isn&#8217;t it nice to get you slamming me for that? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@61. The Chemist Says: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>@MTU #5, I’m sorry, Obama’s pro-Muslim because he doesn’t feel like they should be wiped from the face of the Earth?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>There is *far* more to Obama&#8217;s blatant pro-islam bias than just that &#8211; as you should be well know. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The Muslim-fathered,  Indonesian-raised President Barack Hussein Obama has bowed&#8217;n'scraped and kow-towed far too much to the Arab dictators. BHO has consistently been far too weak on the Muslim world, esp. Iran, and far too harsh on the one oasis of civilisation in a region that is otherwise a wasteland of barbarism &#038; oppression &#8211; the Jewish nation of Israel. </p>
<p>Its a whole other topic or twenty &#038; I could expand on this at great length here but I won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just note that <b>NO US President</b>  &#8211; not even the much maligned George W. Bush &#8211; <b>has *ever* advocated &#8220;wiping the Muslims off the face of the earth&#8221;</b> so your suggestion implying Obama is the only one to hold that view is not merely spectacularly ridiculous but is an offensive slander as well.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>And anti-Israel? Gimmee a break. With the most right-wing Knesset in recent memory, it’s impossible to be reasonable and agree with them at the same time.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Really? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I could say so very much to put the opposite case here. Don&#8217;t tempt me. This is probaby &#8211; no, definitely &#8211; not the right venue for a long and detailed full discussion &#038; outlining of all the facts &#038; the whole case for Israel* here. </p>
<p>Suffice to say, you are totally in error. Israel is &#038; has been throughout its history far more reasonable with the Arabs, incl,. the Palestinians, than they deserve. </p>
<p>Israel has repeatedly egaged in peace talks, handed back land painfully and expensively won in its battles for survival and has shown a rather staggering willingness to compromise with individual Muslim dictators and even terrorists groups who are determined to exterminate them and wipe the Jews off the map and into the sea. Israel gave the Palestinians back Gaza and large parts of Judea and Samaria (the &#8220;West bank&#8221;) and got back in retrun only Hamas rockets and Jihadist hatred day in and day out. The Israelis are tring to defend themselves against the genocide threatened by the Islamic world. They have a right to exist and a right to defend themmselves  &#8211; period.  </p>
<p>Obama is making life needlessly harder for them when he should be following the traditional and entirely ethical and well-justified policy of US support for the Jewish state against its bloodthirsty, anti-Semitic, murderous enemies.</p>
<p>Why exactly, The Chemist, may I ask &#038; get a brief answer please, do you seemingly support the side of those wishing to exterminate Israel and engage in another anti-Semitic genocide? What would *you* do in Israel&#8217;s shoes, faced with enemies who refuse to make peace and keep attacking you with unparalleled savagery throughout your entire existence? </p>
<p>&#8212; </p>
<p>* <i>The Case for Israel&#8217;</i>  btw. is the title of a book by Alan Derschowitz  (John Wley &#038; Sons, 2003.) that I&#8217;d recommend anyone interested in this topic reads.</p>
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		<title>By: whb03</title>
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		<dc:creator>whb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary7 - KNEEL before your god!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Tribeca Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribeca Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messier Tidy Upper -- &lt;i&gt;Shakespeare used bard langauge but Anne hathaway with him.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s the &quot;second-best&quot; joke I&#039;ve heard all week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messier Tidy Upper &#8212; <i>Shakespeare used bard langauge but Anne hathaway with him.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;second-best&#8221; joke I&#8217;ve heard all week.</p>
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		<title>By: Tribeca Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribeca Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How apt that the acronym for the Texas Education Agency, which oversees public education in that state, is TEA.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
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		<description>32.   MarcusBailius

If Texans are still where they were when last I lived there, then they&#039;re mostly carnivores. Lots of barbecues, ya know.

,,,ah, barbecues, the only major saving grace of Texas.

It&#039;s too bad big brains still have to be trained. On the other hand, genetic memory(like the Goa&#039;uld) would end up with only sociopaths getting to reproduce,,,oh, wait, we already HAVE that problem,,,and they&#039;re sitting on the Texas board of education.

Oh no, the parasites are winning.

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32.   MarcusBailius</p>
<p>If Texans are still where they were when last I lived there, then they&#8217;re mostly carnivores. Lots of barbecues, ya know.</p>
<p>,,,ah, barbecues, the only major saving grace of Texas.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad big brains still have to be trained. On the other hand, genetic memory(like the Goa&#8217;uld) would end up with only sociopaths getting to reproduce,,,oh, wait, we already HAVE that problem,,,and they&#8217;re sitting on the Texas board of education.</p>
<p>Oh no, the parasites are winning.</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: OmegaBaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>OmegaBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Raleigh, NC, we had one of the best urban school systems in the nation (one of the reasons I moved here).  Then in the last election, the school board was taken over 5-4 by conservatives (mostly because people were mad about a school policy where kids got to go home early on Wednesdays).  It&#039;s been an absolute nightmare since then.  They&#039;re resegregating schools (calling them &quot;neighborhood&quot; schools to sound nice), proudly ignoring expert testimony from anyone who disagrees with them, and being openly hostile to any parents who dare question them.  Now AdvancED (a major school accreditation organization) is threatening to take away accreditation from our school system because the school board is being openly hostile towards them and not cooperating with request for information.  Graduates are going to have difficulty getting into colleges because they&#039;re not going to be coming from an accredited school anymore.  It&#039;s a total mess.  And the newly elected school board head sits on the board of one of the local private charter schools.  So there&#039;s a HUGE conflict of interest because it&#039;s actually in his best interest for public schools to fail and be replaced by private charter schools!  What a joke.

CONSERVATIVES....RUIN....EVERYTHING....!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Raleigh, NC, we had one of the best urban school systems in the nation (one of the reasons I moved here).  Then in the last election, the school board was taken over 5-4 by conservatives (mostly because people were mad about a school policy where kids got to go home early on Wednesdays).  It&#8217;s been an absolute nightmare since then.  They&#8217;re resegregating schools (calling them &#8220;neighborhood&#8221; schools to sound nice), proudly ignoring expert testimony from anyone who disagrees with them, and being openly hostile to any parents who dare question them.  Now AdvancED (a major school accreditation organization) is threatening to take away accreditation from our school system because the school board is being openly hostile towards them and not cooperating with request for information.  Graduates are going to have difficulty getting into colleges because they&#8217;re not going to be coming from an accredited school anymore.  It&#8217;s a total mess.  And the newly elected school board head sits on the board of one of the local private charter schools.  So there&#8217;s a HUGE conflict of interest because it&#8217;s actually in his best interest for public schools to fail and be replaced by private charter schools!  What a joke.</p>
<p>CONSERVATIVES&#8230;.RUIN&#8230;.EVERYTHING&#8230;.!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Calli Arcale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calli Arcale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos, GeekGoddess!  School board elections are often the place where your vote has the most impact -- and where the political parties have less influence (because they regard school boards as small potatoes, so pretty much everybody&#039;s effectively an independent even if they&#039;re card-carrying Republicans or whatever).  If you want to get something done, this is where you have the best chance.

It is also where the hope for the future is born and nurtured, so the payoff can be much bigger than you might think.  I mean, the President has a lot of power and all, but he&#039;s gone in 8 years or less.  In a school board, you may be influencing the person who will become President in thirty years, or someone else of great influence, and that expands your reach much further than you might realize.

So take the time to get to know the candidates.  In a school district election, you can probably even phone them up and talk to them directly, which is something you don&#039;t get in a big Senate race or gubernatorial race.  And then go to the polls and vote your conscience.

There are no school board posts up for reelection in my district this year.  But there is a bond referendum, and I always participate in those elections.  It&#039;s too important not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos, GeekGoddess!  School board elections are often the place where your vote has the most impact &#8212; and where the political parties have less influence (because they regard school boards as small potatoes, so pretty much everybody&#8217;s effectively an independent even if they&#8217;re card-carrying Republicans or whatever).  If you want to get something done, this is where you have the best chance.</p>
<p>It is also where the hope for the future is born and nurtured, so the payoff can be much bigger than you might think.  I mean, the President has a lot of power and all, but he&#8217;s gone in 8 years or less.  In a school board, you may be influencing the person who will become President in thirty years, or someone else of great influence, and that expands your reach much further than you might realize.</p>
<p>So take the time to get to know the candidates.  In a school district election, you can probably even phone them up and talk to them directly, which is something you don&#8217;t get in a big Senate race or gubernatorial race.  And then go to the polls and vote your conscience.</p>
<p>There are no school board posts up for reelection in my district this year.  But there is a bond referendum, and I always participate in those elections.  It&#8217;s too important not to.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, don&#039;t lump all Texans into the rednecked idiots category.  I would love to see our school system revived, but it won&#039;t happen soon.
And the folks who bitch about unemployment of young adults wonder why.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, don&#8217;t lump all Texans into the rednecked idiots category.  I would love to see our school system revived, but it won&#8217;t happen soon.<br />
And the folks who bitch about unemployment of young adults wonder why&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: GeekGoddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekGoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never voted in school board elections before, but I will be from now on. Texas has NASA, and hundreds of thousands of people who work in energy businesses as engineers and scientists (myself included), the Medical Center - to which people fly from around the world for treatments in cancer and heart transplants - but most of us don&#039;t pay attention to the local elections.  Barbara Cargill, one of the fundie members of the school board, lives not 5 miles from me.  She has a master&#039;s in science education and has been a teacher for many years.  She runs a science camp.  Based out of her church, which is one of those churches large enough to hire off-duty policemen to direct traffic on Sundays.

She doesn&#039;t answer emails, even politely worded, brief ones.  At least, not when the author disagrees with her views on curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never voted in school board elections before, but I will be from now on. Texas has NASA, and hundreds of thousands of people who work in energy businesses as engineers and scientists (myself included), the Medical Center &#8211; to which people fly from around the world for treatments in cancer and heart transplants &#8211; but most of us don&#8217;t pay attention to the local elections.  Barbara Cargill, one of the fundie members of the school board, lives not 5 miles from me.  She has a master&#8217;s in science education and has been a teacher for many years.  She runs a science camp.  Based out of her church, which is one of those churches large enough to hire off-duty policemen to direct traffic on Sundays.</p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t answer emails, even politely worded, brief ones.  At least, not when the author disagrees with her views on curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh.

Why get so excited about it all? What&#039;s the worst that could happen? One of your states becomes technically, economically or politically backward. Their people become consequently disadvantaged, poorer, more bigoted? Other states by comparison will do better, there&#039;ll be a tendency for cleverer and more enlightened folk to leave Texas - thus enriching the other states and plunging Texas into an even deeper spiral of decrepitude. You&#039;ve got 50 states, you can surely afford for one of  &#039;em to go down the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh.</p>
<p>Why get so excited about it all? What&#8217;s the worst that could happen? One of your states becomes technically, economically or politically backward. Their people become consequently disadvantaged, poorer, more bigoted? Other states by comparison will do better, there&#8217;ll be a tendency for cleverer and more enlightened folk to leave Texas &#8211; thus enriching the other states and plunging Texas into an even deeper spiral of decrepitude. You&#8217;ve got 50 states, you can surely afford for one of  &#8216;em to go down the pan.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mead</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All five of us progressives in North Texas apologize for the School Board. When one is surrounded by uneducated, gun-carrying, right-wing idiots who (think?) President Obama is a Muslim born in Africa then you can see what we are up against. Also, when did Obama confess to snorting coke? I am pretty sure it was that bastion of Texas conservatism, W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All five of us progressives in North Texas apologize for the School Board. When one is surrounded by uneducated, gun-carrying, right-wing idiots who (think?) President Obama is a Muslim born in Africa then you can see what we are up against. Also, when did Obama confess to snorting coke? I am pretty sure it was that bastion of Texas conservatism, W.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 59 -
LOL  :D</description>
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LOL  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Davidlpf @ #8

&lt;i&gt;You forget the United States founding fathers were Christian not Islamic.&lt;/i&gt;

Like Thomas Jefferson who rejected the Trinity, rejected the divinity of Yeshua of Nazareth, rejected the miracle tales in the scriptures.  Like John Adams who, in his post presidency correspondence with Jefferson agree with him on the subject of religion.  Like George Washington who declined to take Communion after Episcopal church services.  Like James Madison who wrote that he saw little positive in religion in general and Christianity in particular.

Re JasonB @ #3

Of course, Mr. JasonB is in no way perturbed by the use of cocaine, marijuana, and alcohol by President Obamas&#039; immediate predecessor.  George W. Bushs&#039; alcohol abuse was so extreme that his wife, Laura, threatened to leave him if he didn&#039;t go on the wagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Davidlpf @ #8</p>
<p><i>You forget the United States founding fathers were Christian not Islamic.</i></p>
<p>Like Thomas Jefferson who rejected the Trinity, rejected the divinity of Yeshua of Nazareth, rejected the miracle tales in the scriptures.  Like John Adams who, in his post presidency correspondence with Jefferson agree with him on the subject of religion.  Like George Washington who declined to take Communion after Episcopal church services.  Like James Madison who wrote that he saw little positive in religion in general and Christianity in particular.</p>
<p>Re JasonB @ #3</p>
<p>Of course, Mr. JasonB is in no way perturbed by the use of cocaine, marijuana, and alcohol by President Obamas&#8217; immediate predecessor.  George W. Bushs&#8217; alcohol abuse was so extreme that his wife, Laura, threatened to leave him if he didn&#8217;t go on the wagon.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MTU #5

I&#039;m sorry, Obama&#039;s pro-Muslim because he doesn&#039;t feel like they should be wiped from the face of the Earth?

And anti-Israel? Gimmee a break. With the most right-wing Knesset in recent memory, it&#039;s impossible to be reasonable and agree with them at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTU #5</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Obama&#8217;s pro-Muslim because he doesn&#8217;t feel like they should be wiped from the face of the Earth?</p>
<p>And anti-Israel? Gimmee a break. With the most right-wing Knesset in recent memory, it&#8217;s impossible to be reasonable and agree with them at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidlpf (8) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;You forget the United States founding fathers were Christian not Islamic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You forget that that&#039;s irrelevant.

The founding fathers were also English (for the most part), so does that mean the USA should all be Church of England?  No, of course it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidlpf (8) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>You forget the United States founding fathers were Christian not Islamic.</p></blockquote>
<p>You forget that that&#8217;s irrelevant.</p>
<p>The founding fathers were also English (for the most part), so does that mean the USA should all be Church of England?  No, of course it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: vagueofgodalming</title>
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		<dc:creator>vagueofgodalming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The world is a whole lot bigger than Texas&lt;/i&gt;

#physicsfail.  That&#039;s like saying it&#039;s possible to travel faster than light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The world is a whole lot bigger than Texas</i></p>
<p>#physicsfail.  That&#8217;s like saying it&#8217;s possible to travel faster than light.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTU (5) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I am absolutely disgusted, and feel totally betrayed by Obama’s NASA (esp. human spaceflight) policy which I think utterly stinks &amp; I have said so here strongly many times before. I’ve also criticised some of Obama’s other terrible policies here too incl, his evident pro-Muslim anti-Israeli bias. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Enough, already.  Quit threadjkacking with your anti-Obama whingeing.  This has nothing to do with the Texas State BoE.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTU (5) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am absolutely disgusted, and feel totally betrayed by Obama’s NASA (esp. human spaceflight) policy which I think utterly stinks &#038; I have said so here strongly many times before. I’ve also criticised some of Obama’s other terrible policies here too incl, his evident pro-Muslim anti-Israeli bias. </p></blockquote>
<p>Enough, already.  Quit threadjkacking with your anti-Obama whingeing.  This has nothing to do with the Texas State BoE.</p>
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