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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Lost</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-316143</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, what is your response to Anchor and Dave?</description>
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		<title>By: S. Koter</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Koter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The human race will require loads of iron, calcium and the works, in time ahead. Nuetron star, the egg that makes chickens. Go crab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The human race will require loads of iron, calcium and the works, in time ahead. Nuetron star, the egg that makes chickens. Go crab</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 03:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35.   dave from manchester England Says: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;#29 MTU - My observer friend at Jodrell has never heard any one speak of a possible planet in the twenty years she has been working on the crab. Pulsar timing wasn’t so exact in 1970. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

So no planet then &amp; wiki got it wrong? Oh well, thanks for that anyhow. :-)

@41.   r0blar Says: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;” In other words, put the Crab pulsar where the Sun is now, and we’d be cooked in seconds just from gamma rays.” 
I think in about 8 minutes. &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL. Good point, gotta allow for the travel time light minutes betwixt Earth &amp; Sun. ;-) 

@42. Anchor : 

Thanks for that informative comment &amp; links. :-)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35.   dave from manchester England Says: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>#29 MTU &#8211; My observer friend at Jodrell has never heard any one speak of a possible planet in the twenty years she has been working on the crab. Pulsar timing wasn’t so exact in 1970. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>So no planet then &#038; wiki got it wrong? Oh well, thanks for that anyhow. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@41.   r0blar Says: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>” In other words, put the Crab pulsar where the Sun is now, and we’d be cooked in seconds just from gamma rays.”<br />
I think in about 8 minutes. </i> </p></blockquote>
<p>LOL. Good point, gotta allow for the travel time light minutes betwixt Earth &#038; Sun. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@42. Anchor : </p>
<p>Thanks for that informative comment &#038; links. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I have to amplify #28 dave from manchester England, who notes that &quot;there has been no unusual activity – no flux change, profile change, timing change etc – recently.&quot;

I&#039;m afraid that your explanation of the changes in the structures you point out between December 1993 and last Saturday doesn&#039;t quite square with what&#039;s already been seen. In 1996, for example, a Crab pulsar MOVIE sequence composed of eight images taken by the Hubble WFPC2 every few days OVER A PERIOD OF ONLY A FEW WEEKS shows the structures near the pulsar changing very dramatically. The researchers on that observation attributed the changes to an ionized pulsar wind interacting with the intense magnetic field.

That sequence can be found here:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/22/video/a/

As the team leader Jeff Hester observed, &quot;Watching the wisps move outward through the nebula is a lot like watching waves crashing on the beach — except that in the Crab the waves are a light-year long and are moving through space at half the speed of light...You don&#039;t learn about ocean waves by staring at a snapshot. By their nature waves on the ocean are ever-changing. You learn about ocean waves by sitting on the beach and watching as they roll ashore. This Hubble &#039;movie&#039; of the Crab is so significant because for the first time we are watching as these &#039;waves&#039; from the Crab come rolling in.&quot;

The release story also notes: &quot;The most dynamical feature in the inner part of the Crab is the point where one of the polar jets runs into the surrounding material forming a shock front. The shape and position of this feature shifts about so rapidly that the astronomers describe it as a &quot;dancing sprite,&quot; or &quot;a cat on a hot plate.&quot; The equatorial wind appears as a series of wisp-like features that steepen, brighten, then fade as they move away from the pulsar to well out into the main body of the nebula.&quot;

Comparable changes were also observed in x-rays by the Chandra Observatory in a sequence of 7 exposures taken between November of 2000 and April 2001.

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2002/0052/

In other words, one doesn&#039;t need to invoke some particular energetic event to explain what we&#039;ve been seeing since 1993 - you don&#039;t need 17 years: these changes have already been noted on a timescale of DAYS. 

A more plausible scenario is to assume that the pulsar suffers from a more or less constant rain of gas and dust from the supernova remnant falling onto its surface, with charged particles strongly funneled onto the magnetic poles. The more or less steady release of energy &quot;rolls outward&quot; in the form of dynamic shockwaves in an otherwise constant pulsar wind, mediated by the rapidly-rotating magnetic field rooted in the pulsar.

Elsewhere, a number of theorists have suggested that much of the pulsed emission observed from the Crab and other young pulsars comes not only from the canonical &#039;rotating lighthouse-beam effect&#039; as the dipolar magnetic field sweeps across our line of sight, but is also generated at a region some distance from the pulsar where charged particles are accelerated to near the speed of light inducing synchrotronic emission. They suggest that the ring-like structures that appear to be off-set from the position of the pulsar are the regions where the magnetic field beams pile up packets of charged particles and accelerates them to near-light speeds as the magnetic axis whips around like a natural particle accelerator.

The &quot;dancing sprites&quot; observed above the ROTATIONAL (as opposed to the magnetic) axis of the pulsar are interpreted as a plasma confined within the relatively narrow compass of the magnetic dipole region (i.e., the ring you indicate) where the outflowing pulsar wind is also preferentially confined to produce polar jets that interacts with the SN remnant that would otherwise be compelled to fall into the pulsar. The pulsar &quot;jets&quot; blowing outwards prevents them from falling in, while the jets inject them with energy and dynamic shocks that make them &#039;dance&#039; in place, somewhat analogous to a ping pong ball that bobbles about on a vertical stream of air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I have to amplify #28 dave from manchester England, who notes that &#8220;there has been no unusual activity – no flux change, profile change, timing change etc – recently.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that your explanation of the changes in the structures you point out between December 1993 and last Saturday doesn&#8217;t quite square with what&#8217;s already been seen. In 1996, for example, a Crab pulsar MOVIE sequence composed of eight images taken by the Hubble WFPC2 every few days OVER A PERIOD OF ONLY A FEW WEEKS shows the structures near the pulsar changing very dramatically. The researchers on that observation attributed the changes to an ionized pulsar wind interacting with the intense magnetic field.</p>
<p>That sequence can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/22/video/a/" rel="nofollow">http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/22/video/a/</a></p>
<p>As the team leader Jeff Hester observed, &#8220;Watching the wisps move outward through the nebula is a lot like watching waves crashing on the beach — except that in the Crab the waves are a light-year long and are moving through space at half the speed of light&#8230;You don&#8217;t learn about ocean waves by staring at a snapshot. By their nature waves on the ocean are ever-changing. You learn about ocean waves by sitting on the beach and watching as they roll ashore. This Hubble &#8216;movie&#8217; of the Crab is so significant because for the first time we are watching as these &#8216;waves&#8217; from the Crab come rolling in.&#8221;</p>
<p>The release story also notes: &#8220;The most dynamical feature in the inner part of the Crab is the point where one of the polar jets runs into the surrounding material forming a shock front. The shape and position of this feature shifts about so rapidly that the astronomers describe it as a &#8220;dancing sprite,&#8221; or &#8220;a cat on a hot plate.&#8221; The equatorial wind appears as a series of wisp-like features that steepen, brighten, then fade as they move away from the pulsar to well out into the main body of the nebula.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comparable changes were also observed in x-rays by the Chandra Observatory in a sequence of 7 exposures taken between November of 2000 and April 2001.</p>
<p><a href="http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2002/0052/" rel="nofollow">http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2002/0052/</a></p>
<p>In other words, one doesn&#8217;t need to invoke some particular energetic event to explain what we&#8217;ve been seeing since 1993 &#8211; you don&#8217;t need 17 years: these changes have already been noted on a timescale of DAYS. </p>
<p>A more plausible scenario is to assume that the pulsar suffers from a more or less constant rain of gas and dust from the supernova remnant falling onto its surface, with charged particles strongly funneled onto the magnetic poles. The more or less steady release of energy &#8220;rolls outward&#8221; in the form of dynamic shockwaves in an otherwise constant pulsar wind, mediated by the rapidly-rotating magnetic field rooted in the pulsar.</p>
<p>Elsewhere, a number of theorists have suggested that much of the pulsed emission observed from the Crab and other young pulsars comes not only from the canonical &#8216;rotating lighthouse-beam effect&#8217; as the dipolar magnetic field sweeps across our line of sight, but is also generated at a region some distance from the pulsar where charged particles are accelerated to near the speed of light inducing synchrotronic emission. They suggest that the ring-like structures that appear to be off-set from the position of the pulsar are the regions where the magnetic field beams pile up packets of charged particles and accelerates them to near-light speeds as the magnetic axis whips around like a natural particle accelerator.</p>
<p>The &#8220;dancing sprites&#8221; observed above the ROTATIONAL (as opposed to the magnetic) axis of the pulsar are interpreted as a plasma confined within the relatively narrow compass of the magnetic dipole region (i.e., the ring you indicate) where the outflowing pulsar wind is also preferentially confined to produce polar jets that interacts with the SN remnant that would otherwise be compelled to fall into the pulsar. The pulsar &#8220;jets&#8221; blowing outwards prevents them from falling in, while the jets inject them with energy and dynamic shocks that make them &#8216;dance&#8217; in place, somewhat analogous to a ping pong ball that bobbles about on a vertical stream of air.</p>
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		<title>By: r0blar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; In other words, put the Crab pulsar where the Sun is now, and we’d be cooked in seconds just from gamma rays.&quot;

I think in about 8 minutes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; In other words, put the Crab pulsar where the Sun is now, and we’d be cooked in seconds just from gamma rays.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think in about 8 minutes <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yeebok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeebok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way you explain stuff Phil, it&#039;s illuminating and makes you think and re-examine the pics, it&#039;s a neat ability you have to promote excitement at science.
My take on what you&#039;ve described is an &#039;hourglass nebula&#039; pair of rings, with a jet shooting through it&#039;s centre to the left (and an associated disturbance past it) as well as an outer equatorial ring.. ?
It&#039;s an amazing picture and I&#039;m glad you took the time to explain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the way you explain stuff Phil, it&#8217;s illuminating and makes you think and re-examine the pics, it&#8217;s a neat ability you have to promote excitement at science.<br />
My take on what you&#8217;ve described is an &#8216;hourglass nebula&#8217; pair of rings, with a jet shooting through it&#8217;s centre to the left (and an associated disturbance past it) as well as an outer equatorial ring.. ?<br />
It&#8217;s an amazing picture and I&#8217;m glad you took the time to explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@t-storm: No, because of the relativistic effects it would experience at that velocity. As the velocity of an object approaches the speed of light, so its mass increases, becoming infinite at c. 0.5*m*v^2 works fine for most things in everyday experience, because the relativistic effect is so small as to be negligable, but at c the kinetic energy would be 0.5*infinity*c^2, which works out as infinite.

Q.E.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@t-storm: No, because of the relativistic effects it would experience at that velocity. As the velocity of an object approaches the speed of light, so its mass increases, becoming infinite at c. 0.5*m*v^2 works fine for most things in everyday experience, because the relativistic effect is so small as to be negligable, but at c the kinetic energy would be 0.5*infinity*c^2, which works out as infinite.</p>
<p>Q.E.2.</p>
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		<title>By: t-storm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 21:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was moving at light speed wouldn&#039;t it&#039;s KE be 0.5 * m * c^2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was moving at light speed wouldn&#8217;t it&#8217;s KE be 0.5 * m * c^2?</p>
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		<title>By: VJBinCT</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in 1967, I was one of the first to see the crab pulsar pulsing with the naked eye (on a TV monitor).  As a grad student working at a NASA facility, I happened to be at Lick Observatory for observations completely unrelated.  The night before we started, a U of Cal group hooked up a TV camera at the coude focus of the 120 inch telescope and strobed the frame capture off of a variable frequency oscillator.  With a small beat frequency you could see the pulsar modulation happening at a human eye compatible rate.  Very cool.  I&#039;m glad I got word of what they planned to do at dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in 1967, I was one of the first to see the crab pulsar pulsing with the naked eye (on a TV monitor).  As a grad student working at a NASA facility, I happened to be at Lick Observatory for observations completely unrelated.  The night before we started, a U of Cal group hooked up a TV camera at the coude focus of the 120 inch telescope and strobed the frame capture off of a variable frequency oscillator.  With a small beat frequency you could see the pulsar modulation happening at a human eye compatible rate.  Very cool.  I&#8217;m glad I got word of what they planned to do at dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Winter</dc:creator>
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		<description>Woof is right, of course; I neglected the relativistic effects. Shall we say the marshmallow  moves at near lightspeed, and its K.E. is much more than 180 TJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woof is right, of course; I neglected the relativistic effects. Shall we say the marshmallow  moves at near lightspeed, and its K.E. is much more than 180 TJ?</p>
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		<title>By: dave from manchester England</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave from manchester England</dc:creator>
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		<description>#29 MTU

My observer friend at Jodrell has never heard any one speak of a possible planet in the twenty years she has been working on the crab.   Pulsar timing wasn&#039;t so exact in 1970</description>
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<p>My observer friend at Jodrell has never heard any one speak of a possible planet in the twenty years she has been working on the crab.   Pulsar timing wasn&#8217;t so exact in 1970</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Neil Haggath : Thanks - that&#039;s exactly the saying I was thinking of that I read somewhere. Perhaps your lecturer wrote the book I read? ;-) :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Neil Haggath : Thanks &#8211; that&#8217;s exactly the saying I was thinking of that I read somewhere. Perhaps your lecturer wrote the book I read? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: evilscientist</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dave from manchester

So much for my thought that whatever the event was it may cause a glitch in the pulsar...</description>
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<p>So much for my thought that whatever the event was it may cause a glitch in the pulsar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Astronews Daily (2455475)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astronews Daily (2455475)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Crab is still crabby &#8211; A thousand years ago, and 6500 light years away from Earth, a high mass star exploded. An octillion tons of gas blasted outwards at speeds of thousands of kilometers per second, forming tendrils and wisps as it raced away&#8230; &#8211; Phil Plait / Bad Astronomy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Crab is still crabby &#8211; A thousand years ago, and 6500 light years away from Earth, a high mass star exploded. An octillion tons of gas blasted outwards at speeds of thousands of kilometers per second, forming tendrils and wisps as it raced away&#8230; &#8211; Phil Plait / Bad Astronomy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 MTU:
&quot;I think I read in an old textbook once that the study of the Crab Nebula is half of all astronomy.&quot;

Pretty much so. One of my astrophysics lecturers was fond of saying, &quot;Astrophysics can be divided into two parts - the Crab Nebula and everything else.&quot; That was nearly 30 years ago, but I&#039;m told the saying still applies today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 MTU:<br />
&#8220;I think I read in an old textbook once that the study of the Crab Nebula is half of all astronomy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty much so. One of my astrophysics lecturers was fond of saying, &#8220;Astrophysics can be divided into two parts &#8211; the Crab Nebula and everything else.&#8221; That was nearly 30 years ago, but I&#8217;m told the saying still applies today.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ NB. My source link for the quoted info. &amp; comment above is here : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Pulsar 

&amp; I&#039;ve also asked this as a question on the Bad Astronomy Universe Today (BAUT) forum here : 

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/108314-Crab-Pulsar-PLANET-! 

Which I hope is okay netiquette~wise. My apologies if not. I&#039;ve mentioned &amp; linked this thread there too btw. I&#039;ll check back on both threads there &amp; here for more. 

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PS. I post as &#039;StevoR&#039; there &amp; &#039;Messier Tidy Upper&#039; here, sorry if that causes any confusion or problems. I guess I should make it consistent but.. long story, anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ NB. My source link for the quoted info. &#038; comment above is here : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Pulsar" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Pulsar</a> </p>
<p>&#038; I&#8217;ve also asked this as a question on the Bad Astronomy Universe Today (BAUT) forum here : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/108314-Crab-Pulsar-PLANET-" rel="nofollow">http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/108314-Crab-Pulsar-PLANET-</a>! </p>
<p>Which I hope is okay netiquette~wise. My apologies if not. I&#8217;ve mentioned &#038; linked this thread there too btw. I&#8217;ll check back on both threads there &#038; here for more. </p>
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<p>PS. I post as &#8216;StevoR&#8217; there &#038; &#8216;Messier Tidy Upper&#8217; here, sorry if that causes any confusion or problems. I guess I should make it consistent but.. long story, anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314457</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I read in an old textbook once that the study of the Crab Nebula is half of all astronomy. :-) 

I may, of course, be mistaken.. 

I&#039;ve just noted Wikipedia suggests that the Crab Pulsar &lt;i&gt;(under its entry)&lt;/i&gt; may have  an orbiting planet : 

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&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In 1970, astronomer Curtis Michel proposed the presence of a planetary companion to explain certain variations observed in pulsar timing[16]. The hypothesized object would have a mass of 0.00001 Solar masses (i.e 0.01 Jupiter masses or 3.3 Earth masses) and be located at 0.3 Astronomical Units from the pulsar.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;(Brackets original.)&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/Blockquote&gt; 

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Which raises a few questions like :

1. Has anybody confirmed or rebutted this idea since?

2. If true then wouldn&#039;t this be the first exoplanet ever discovered?

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3. How come I&#039;ve never heard of this before - why has it seemingly been kept so quiet? Has anybody else here heard of that before and can anybody here enlighten us on this Crab pulsar possible planet (!) further?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I read in an old textbook once that the study of the Crab Nebula is half of all astronomy. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I may, of course, be mistaken.. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just noted Wikipedia suggests that the Crab Pulsar <i>(under its entry)</i> may have  an orbiting planet : </p>
<p>*** </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In 1970, astronomer Curtis Michel proposed the presence of a planetary companion to explain certain variations observed in pulsar timing[16]. The hypothesized object would have a mass of 0.00001 Solar masses (i.e 0.01 Jupiter masses or 3.3 Earth masses) and be located at 0.3 Astronomical Units from the pulsar.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>(Brackets original.)</i> </p></blockquote>
<p>*** </p>
<p>Which raises a few questions like :</p>
<p>1. Has anybody confirmed or rebutted this idea since?</p>
<p>2. If true then wouldn&#8217;t this be the first exoplanet ever discovered?</p>
<p>&#038;<br />
3. How come I&#8217;ve never heard of this before &#8211; why has it seemingly been kept so quiet? Has anybody else here heard of that before and can anybody here enlighten us on this Crab pulsar possible planet (!) further?</p>
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		<title>By: dave from manchester England</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314357</link>
		<dc:creator>dave from manchester England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil

Here at Jodrell Bank Observatory we have been (almost) continuously monitoring the Crab Pulsar for over forty years.   I have just been talking to one of the observers and she assures me that there has been no unusual activity - no flux change, profile change, timing chaneg etc - recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil</p>
<p>Here at Jodrell Bank Observatory we have been (almost) continuously monitoring the Crab Pulsar for over forty years.   I have just been talking to one of the observers and she assures me that there has been no unusual activity &#8211; no flux change, profile change, timing chaneg etc &#8211; recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314145</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 03:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ : I&#039;m guessing an INFINITE amount! ;-) 

&lt;i&gt;(Sorry I&#039;m not Woof but I&#039;ll still answer that &#039;un, after all we haven&#039;t got an infinite amount of time to wait. Meow.&lt;/i&gt; ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ : I&#8217;m guessing an INFINITE amount! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><i>(Sorry I&#8217;m not Woof but I&#8217;ll still answer that &#8216;un, after all we haven&#8217;t got an infinite amount of time to wait. Meow.</i> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Bunny with a Whip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314122</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Bunny with a Whip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Woof: How much funding will NASA need to run this experiment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Woof: How much funding will NASA need to run this experiment?</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314121</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nb. Yes, it was indeed SN 1054 that produced the Crab Nebula - see : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1054 

&amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Nebula 

BTW. Proxima Centauri is Wiki&#039;s featured article today too I see. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nb. Yes, it was indeed SN 1054 that produced the Crab Nebula &#8211; see : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1054" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1054</a> </p>
<p>&#038; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Nebula" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Nebula</a> </p>
<p>BTW. Proxima Centauri is Wiki&#8217;s featured article today too I see. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314120</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Wof &amp; Naked Bunny with a Whip :

Here&#039;s a thought - a marshmellow of neutron star matter may or may not be infinitely delicious but given the amount of material it sure would be filling! ;-) 

As explosively filling as that final after-dinner mint in the Monty Python sketch .. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Wof &#038; Naked Bunny with a Whip :</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought &#8211; a marshmellow of neutron star matter may or may not be infinitely delicious but given the amount of material it sure would be filling! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>As explosively filling as that final after-dinner mint in the Monty Python sketch .. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314105</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvellous images &amp; write up there. Thanks BA. :-) 

There is just one thing though .. 

The Crab Supernova - which produced that  first Messier object (M1) the Crab Nebula and the Crab Pulsar there - took place in 1054 didn&#039;t it? 

So 1054 + 1000 = 2054 not 2010 so it has not quite been 1,000 years yet - even my maths can work that much out! ;-) 

The energies involved and the bizarre nature of it though are just staggering to contemplate. I don&#039;t know if anyone can fully grok how extreme these objects are but the BA sure does a nice job of trying to describe them for us. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvellous images &#038; write up there. Thanks BA. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>There is just one thing though .. </p>
<p>The Crab Supernova &#8211; which produced that  first Messier object (M1) the Crab Nebula and the Crab Pulsar there &#8211; took place in 1054 didn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>So 1054 + 1000 = 2054 not 2010 so it has not quite been 1,000 years yet &#8211; even my maths can work that much out! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The energies involved and the bizarre nature of it though are just staggering to contemplate. I don&#8217;t know if anyone can fully grok how extreme these objects are but the BA sure does a nice job of trying to describe them for us. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Woof</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-314020</link>
		<dc:creator>Woof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 01:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bunny:

Only if you drop it into an infinite cup of hot chocolate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bunny:</p>
<p>Only if you drop it into an infinite cup of hot chocolate.</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Bunny with a Whip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/10/04/the-crab-is-still-crabby/comment-page-1/#comment-313997</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Bunny with a Whip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 01:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Woof: But is it infinitely delicious? Answer that, science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Woof: But is it infinitely delicious? Answer that, science!</p>
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