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	<title>Comments on: When a University helps promote nonsense</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Laurel Kornfeld</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/11/09/when-a-university-helps-promote-nonsense/comment-page-2/#comment-427148</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel Kornfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the course of my researches, I have come across numerous complaints on American Websites concerning the way in which “athletes” are considered more popular than “scholars” on American campuses, and how spending on sports facilities is viewed more favourably than spending on facilities for gifted students. As one commentator put it: &#039;If those charged with education are unwilling to defend the importance of education, who should be expected to do so?&#039;&quot;

I am downright ashamed of my alma mater, Rutgers University. The university administration has spent huge amounts of money to build a gigantic new football stadium that was never needed (the only one was fine) and cut down a lot of trees in the process. The place stands out like a sore thumb. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are being spent on the football program, especially to pay coaches huge salaries. One even had a house built for him. At the same time, every academic support program from tutors to library hours to number of full time professors to health care providers is being cut left and right. Football &quot;stars&quot; get full scholarships including room and board as long as they maintain a C average while A students have to finance their educations almost entirely with loans. A university is an academic institution, not an athletic institution. I will never donate money to any Rutgers organizations until this is reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the course of my researches, I have come across numerous complaints on American Websites concerning the way in which “athletes” are considered more popular than “scholars” on American campuses, and how spending on sports facilities is viewed more favourably than spending on facilities for gifted students. As one commentator put it: &#8216;If those charged with education are unwilling to defend the importance of education, who should be expected to do so?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am downright ashamed of my alma mater, Rutgers University. The university administration has spent huge amounts of money to build a gigantic new football stadium that was never needed (the only one was fine) and cut down a lot of trees in the process. The place stands out like a sore thumb. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are being spent on the football program, especially to pay coaches huge salaries. One even had a house built for him. At the same time, every academic support program from tutors to library hours to number of full time professors to health care providers is being cut left and right. Football &#8220;stars&#8221; get full scholarships including room and board as long as they maintain a C average while A students have to finance their educations almost entirely with loans. A university is an academic institution, not an athletic institution. I will never donate money to any Rutgers organizations until this is reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy Like Sunday Morning &#171; Galileo&#039;s Pendulum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy Like Sunday Morning &#171; Galileo&#039;s Pendulum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have many links to share today. I did note a preponderance of pseudoscience at the fair, though: &#8220;power bands&#8221;, vibration-based &#8220;weight-loss&#8221; systems, and the usual pseudopharmacopia of dietary [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have many links to share today. I did note a preponderance of pseudoscience at the fair, though: &#8220;power bands&#8221;, vibration-based &#8220;weight-loss&#8221; systems, and the usual pseudopharmacopia of dietary [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie-kzh9gUPw

you have to see this it explains why the bands work. check it out</description>
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<p>you have to see this it explains why the bands work. check it out</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Turkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Turkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 02:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing.Keep posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing.Keep posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Georges-Émile April</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georges-Émile April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The placebo effect is obviously what allows con men to cheat their naïve victims for presumably millions of dollars.
      The existence of the placebo effect does not justify the action of using it to bilk the public.
      If these people marketed these things by saying &quot;We have a whole range of placebos which will work wonders for you, provided you believe in them. So send us your money please&quot; I would not mind so much, as long as they said please, of course. They might add that these might become collectibles after they come to be recognized for the swindle that they are.

      As it stands, these people are thieves and should be brought to justice. This is a job for the FBI.

     As for the universities, they are supposed to exist to educate people. This implies  a duty to denounce flimflammery, be it or not it is associated with their name or logo.

     If it bears their logo, by not denouncing it, they become  jointly responsible for a great disservice to the public, and they should be held accountable.

      Maybe university administrators should start wearing rubber bands to protect themselves, just in case the FBI decides to investigate.

    I hope they are not getting any money for their inaction, the thought is too horrible to entertain, universities aiding and abetting. No, that could not happen, or could it?

   There is a name for this propensity to do anything for money.
   Can&#039;t remember it right now, but then, English is not my native tongue.

   Some refer to that by associating it with &quot;the oldest profession&quot;, I am not sure what that means.

P.-S.      Please feel no obligation to explain it to me, I which to keep my innocence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The placebo effect is obviously what allows con men to cheat their naïve victims for presumably millions of dollars.<br />
      The existence of the placebo effect does not justify the action of using it to bilk the public.<br />
      If these people marketed these things by saying &#8220;We have a whole range of placebos which will work wonders for you, provided you believe in them. So send us your money please&#8221; I would not mind so much, as long as they said please, of course. They might add that these might become collectibles after they come to be recognized for the swindle that they are.</p>
<p>      As it stands, these people are thieves and should be brought to justice. This is a job for the FBI.</p>
<p>     As for the universities, they are supposed to exist to educate people. This implies  a duty to denounce flimflammery, be it or not it is associated with their name or logo.</p>
<p>     If it bears their logo, by not denouncing it, they become  jointly responsible for a great disservice to the public, and they should be held accountable.</p>
<p>      Maybe university administrators should start wearing rubber bands to protect themselves, just in case the FBI decides to investigate.</p>
<p>    I hope they are not getting any money for their inaction, the thought is too horrible to entertain, universities aiding and abetting. No, that could not happen, or could it?</p>
<p>   There is a name for this propensity to do anything for money.<br />
   Can&#8217;t remember it right now, but then, English is not my native tongue.</p>
<p>   Some refer to that by associating it with &#8220;the oldest profession&#8221;, I am not sure what that means.</p>
<p>P.-S.      Please feel no obligation to explain it to me, I which to keep my innocence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Any customer buying that product will see that logo and assume it’s the University endorsing the product.&quot;

Really?

The other customers must be really stupid to assume that licensing a logo is the same as providing an endorsement.  

I have dozens of items with licensed logos.  I don&#039;t expect that the licensor stands behind any of these products in any way.

If suckers want to buy $30 rubber bands with licensed logos - let them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Any customer buying that product will see that logo and assume it’s the University endorsing the product.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>The other customers must be really stupid to assume that licensing a logo is the same as providing an endorsement.  </p>
<p>I have dozens of items with licensed logos.  I don&#8217;t expect that the licensor stands behind any of these products in any way.</p>
<p>If suckers want to buy $30 rubber bands with licensed logos &#8211; let them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to hear that any variation on the Power Balance bracelet is being used as a fundraiser for the college campus. It&#039;s not new, though, for that seeming contradiction, the sale of cookies to raise funds for wholesome activities for Scouts, for example, to take place. The worst of it, however, is that the Power Balance bracelets, and their analogs, are in contradiction to science and critical thinking, the very concepts we hope our children would be learning on the college campus --- not buying and wearing the bracelets that have the college logo and even suggesting the belief in their power.

Here is a link to the Independent Investigations Group&#039;s (IIG) preliminary report on our test of Power Balance.  Richard Saunders&#039; explanation of Applied Kinesiology has been awesome! The IIG now has tested Power Balance&#039;s claims of balance, flexibility and strength. The report as shown on Yahoo News, left out a lot; but our final report will be thorough.
http://www.iigwest.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to hear that any variation on the Power Balance bracelet is being used as a fundraiser for the college campus. It&#8217;s not new, though, for that seeming contradiction, the sale of cookies to raise funds for wholesome activities for Scouts, for example, to take place. The worst of it, however, is that the Power Balance bracelets, and their analogs, are in contradiction to science and critical thinking, the very concepts we hope our children would be learning on the college campus &#8212; not buying and wearing the bracelets that have the college logo and even suggesting the belief in their power.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the Independent Investigations Group&#8217;s (IIG) preliminary report on our test of Power Balance.  Richard Saunders&#8217; explanation of Applied Kinesiology has been awesome! The IIG now has tested Power Balance&#8217;s claims of balance, flexibility and strength. The report as shown on Yahoo News, left out a lot; but our final report will be thorough.<br />
<a href="http://www.iigwest.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.iigwest.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gus Snarp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus Snarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the ESPN Video, two brothers made up the Power Balance bracelet and sold $8,000 worth the first year and now $17 million last year (or whenever the video was made). Again, sometimes I wish I had no scruples so I could make millions selling people $0.30 plastic bracelets for a hundred times what they cost me. Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the ESPN Video, two brothers made up the Power Balance bracelet and sold $8,000 worth the first year and now $17 million last year (or whenever the video was made). Again, sometimes I wish I had no scruples so I could make millions selling people $0.30 plastic bracelets for a hundred times what they cost me. Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorrykb (82) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Now… Where do I sign up to get one of those magic wombats???&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I want to learn how to play the game of &quot;magic wom&quot;, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorrykb (82) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now… Where do I sign up to get one of those magic wombats???</p></blockquote>
<p>I want to learn how to play the game of &#8220;magic wom&#8221;, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Rachie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Rachie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob, just goes to show that an &quot;out of work actor&quot; (which Richard is not) knows more than an engineer. And the engineer thinks this is something to be proud of? Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob, just goes to show that an &#8220;out of work actor&#8221; (which Richard is not) knows more than an engineer. And the engineer thinks this is something to be proud of? Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ReuniteGondwanaland (78) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Negative ion reducing bracelets. I’m sure I desperately need my negative ions reduced.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm . . . let&#039;s see . . . Oxidation Is Loss; Reduction Is Gain (of electrons).  So, to reduce a negative ion, you must give it more electrons . . . which would mean . . . erm . . . it becomes more negative?

Huh?

;-)

Well, sodium hydride is an example of a powerful reducing agent.  Does that mean that the &quot;negative ion reducing bracelet&quot; douses you with sodium hydride?  &#039;Cos I don&#039;t imagine that would be pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ReuniteGondwanaland (78) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Negative ion reducing bracelets. I’m sure I desperately need my negative ions reduced.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm . . . let&#8217;s see . . . Oxidation Is Loss; Reduction Is Gain (of electrons).  So, to reduce a negative ion, you must give it more electrons . . . which would mean . . . erm . . . it becomes more negative?</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, sodium hydride is an example of a powerful reducing agent.  Does that mean that the &#8220;negative ion reducing bracelet&#8221; douses you with sodium hydride?  &#8216;Cos I don&#8217;t imagine that would be pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: sorrykb</title>
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		<dc:creator>sorrykb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent debunking of the power bracelets.

Now...  Where do I sign up to get one of those magic wombats???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent debunking of the power bracelets.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;  Where do I sign up to get one of those magic wombats???</p>
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		<title>By: AJ in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nigel Depledge:  That&#039;s why I&#039;m never buying an iPhone or any such thing.  I love my Android phone.  It&#039;s got a linux command line (usable from the phone itself or as a terminal from your PC), and if you do a little irregular OS upgrading, you can get full root privileges :)

@Tom K:  Ha :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nigel Depledge:  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m never buying an iPhone or any such thing.  I love my Android phone.  It&#8217;s got a linux command line (usable from the phone itself or as a terminal from your PC), and if you do a little irregular OS upgrading, you can get full root privileges <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Tom K:  Ha <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AJ in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#60 Mark hanson:  I love it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#60 Mark hanson:  I love it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s late in the comments so many aren&#039;t likely to see this, but I wanted to let you know &lt;a href=&quot;http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/follow-up-2-major-american-university-advertising-pseudoscience/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve posted a second follow-up to this thing&lt;/a&gt;, this time based on a news article about the multi-million dollar deals here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s late in the comments so many aren&#8217;t likely to see this, but I wanted to let you know <a href="http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/follow-up-2-major-american-university-advertising-pseudoscience/" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ve posted a second follow-up to this thing</a>, this time based on a news article about the multi-million dollar deals here.</p>
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		<title>By: ReuniteGondwanaland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReuniteGondwanaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish this was an isolated incident, but my favorite college team is also willing to have its logo on this scam.   And this one, too, which Colorado also is willing to participate in:
www.amazon.com/Trion-NCAA-Colorado-Buffalos-Wristband/dp/B003JR608W

Negative ion reducing bracelets.   I&#039;m sure I desperately need my negative ions reduced.

# The negative-ions in Trion:Z&#039;s officially licensed collegiate series wristbands are released in measurable and significant amounts at rates 50 to 100 time higher than competing brands.
# Trion:Z products will maintain their negative-ion producing properties when wet- they?re functional in the shower, ocean, and the pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish this was an isolated incident, but my favorite college team is also willing to have its logo on this scam.   And this one, too, which Colorado also is willing to participate in:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Trion-NCAA-Colorado-Buffalos-Wristband/dp/B003JR608W" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Trion-NCAA-Colorado-Buffalos-Wristband/dp/B003JR608W</a></p>
<p>Negative ion reducing bracelets.   I&#8217;m sure I desperately need my negative ions reduced.</p>
<p># The negative-ions in Trion:Z&#8217;s officially licensed collegiate series wristbands are released in measurable and significant amounts at rates 50 to 100 time higher than competing brands.<br />
# Trion:Z products will maintain their negative-ion producing properties when wet- they?re functional in the shower, ocean, and the pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to the question of education, sport and intelligence, the academic writer, and former Head of Westminster School, Dr John Rae, has written of how sports were first introduced into British schools, some centuries ago, to, rather ironically, “tame the student mob”, coming to take on “all the attributes of a religion”, with the teachers becoming “even greater devotees” than the pupils (Rae quotes a cartoon from a Victorian edition of “Punch”: “Teacher to Pupil:  “Of course you needn’t work, Fitzmilksoppe, but play you must and shall.””).

As Dr Rae put it: “Sports were seen as important for the development of character, and character considered as superior to intellect.” 

The historian, James Morris, in his history of the British Empire, writes of how, as the Empire expanded, and the tasks facing its various administrators became increasingly larger and more complex, so the standard sports-biased education became less and less appropriate to their needs.

Kipling wrote his famous lines, attacking “the flannelled fools at the wicket; the muddied oafs at the goal”, in protest at the way this country placed sports ahead of other, more significant, priorities.

In the course of my researches, I have come across numerous complaints on American Websites concerning the way in which “athletes” are considered more popular than “scholars” on American campuses, and how spending on sports facilities is viewed more favourably than spending on facilities for gifted students.  As one commentator put it:  &quot;If those charged with education are unwilling to defend the importance of education, who should be expected to do so?&quot;

Those who learn nothing from history may be doomed to repeat it – including  those who were taught that sport was more important than history, and those who did the teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to the question of education, sport and intelligence, the academic writer, and former Head of Westminster School, Dr John Rae, has written of how sports were first introduced into British schools, some centuries ago, to, rather ironically, “tame the student mob”, coming to take on “all the attributes of a religion”, with the teachers becoming “even greater devotees” than the pupils (Rae quotes a cartoon from a Victorian edition of “Punch”: “Teacher to Pupil:  “Of course you needn’t work, Fitzmilksoppe, but play you must and shall.””).</p>
<p>As Dr Rae put it: “Sports were seen as important for the development of character, and character considered as superior to intellect.” </p>
<p>The historian, James Morris, in his history of the British Empire, writes of how, as the Empire expanded, and the tasks facing its various administrators became increasingly larger and more complex, so the standard sports-biased education became less and less appropriate to their needs.</p>
<p>Kipling wrote his famous lines, attacking “the flannelled fools at the wicket; the muddied oafs at the goal”, in protest at the way this country placed sports ahead of other, more significant, priorities.</p>
<p>In the course of my researches, I have come across numerous complaints on American Websites concerning the way in which “athletes” are considered more popular than “scholars” on American campuses, and how spending on sports facilities is viewed more favourably than spending on facilities for gifted students.  As one commentator put it:  &#8220;If those charged with education are unwilling to defend the importance of education, who should be expected to do so?&#8221;</p>
<p>Those who learn nothing from history may be doomed to repeat it – including  those who were taught that sport was more important than history, and those who did the teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be noted that the universities have signed agreements to promote &quot;Power Force&quot; and not &quot;Power Bands.&quot;. Power Bands claim to work by means of a hologram and frequencies, but the Power Force band makes a vague claim that it is infused with &quot;ions&quot; to boost the body&#039;s inner force.  So it is a variation (and not a very good one) on a theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be noted that the universities have signed agreements to promote &#8220;Power Force&#8221; and not &#8220;Power Bands.&#8221;. Power Bands claim to work by means of a hologram and frequencies, but the Power Force band makes a vague claim that it is infused with &#8220;ions&#8221; to boost the body&#8217;s inner force.  So it is a variation (and not a very good one) on a theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil says:  &quot;[T]here’s no such thing as your body’s frequency.&quot;  One of my Physics profs, however, made the point that particles, even really big particles like people, may have some calculable wave-particle properties, including a de Broglie frequency (or wavelength).   So this proves that the claims about the body frequency are validated by quantum mechanics, right? RIGHT??

Well... as a practical matter, not really, no.  This is one of many situations in which having a basic understanding of science and mathematics can help a reasonable person sort out fact from fertilizer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil says:  &#8220;[T]here’s no such thing as your body’s frequency.&#8221;  One of my Physics profs, however, made the point that particles, even really big particles like people, may have some calculable wave-particle properties, including a de Broglie frequency (or wavelength).   So this proves that the claims about the body frequency are validated by quantum mechanics, right? RIGHT??</p>
<p>Well&#8230; as a practical matter, not really, no.  This is one of many situations in which having a basic understanding of science and mathematics can help a reasonable person sort out fact from fertilizer.</p>
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		<title>By: VJBinCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJBinCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think what holographic condoms might do!  CU would jump on this, to be sure.</description>
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		<title>By: Todd W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MarcusBailius

Re: FDA regulation

Since the bands do not pose any significant risk (i.e., classified as a Class I device), the manufacturers can claim a 510(k) exemption, meaning they do not need to get FDA approval to market it.</description>
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<p>Re: FDA regulation</p>
<p>Since the bands do not pose any significant risk (i.e., classified as a Class I device), the manufacturers can claim a 510(k) exemption, meaning they do not need to get FDA approval to market it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As fas as snake oil is concerned, the only one I ever liked was Coke,,,the early stuff.

Drink six or seven of THOSE and the day goes by really fast.

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As fas as snake oil is concerned, the only one I ever liked was Coke,,,the early stuff.</p>
<p>Drink six or seven of THOSE and the day goes by really fast.</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it&#039;s CU, shouldn&#039;t they be copper bracelets?</description>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@69 MarcusBailus:  The FDA doesn&#039;t have any reason to regulate rubberbands.  Or silicon bands.  Whatever.  The answer to &quot;That person is tricking people!&quot; shouldn&#039;t be &quot;Take away his right to speech!&quot; it should be &quot;Educate the people about it!&quot; like Phil is doing.  The University should be shamed for doing this, but it gets away with a lot of other more deliberate manipulation of people that is a lot more harmful than losing 30 bucks on shysters.

Universities should be a place where the freedom of speech, even speech that the government or the public disagrees with, is unfettered.  That way the best ideas come out.  You&#039;ll note that while this university has the bands with their logo&#039;s, they don&#039;t have any Majors in Homeopathy or Chiropracty, and there are no classes on the &quot;Autism Epidemic and Vaccination&quot;.  The best ideas arise from freedom, not limiting speech, even when that speech pisses you off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@69 MarcusBailus:  The FDA doesn&#8217;t have any reason to regulate rubberbands.  Or silicon bands.  Whatever.  The answer to &#8220;That person is tricking people!&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;Take away his right to speech!&#8221; it should be &#8220;Educate the people about it!&#8221; like Phil is doing.  The University should be shamed for doing this, but it gets away with a lot of other more deliberate manipulation of people that is a lot more harmful than losing 30 bucks on shysters.</p>
<p>Universities should be a place where the freedom of speech, even speech that the government or the public disagrees with, is unfettered.  That way the best ideas come out.  You&#8217;ll note that while this university has the bands with their logo&#8217;s, they don&#8217;t have any Majors in Homeopathy or Chiropracty, and there are no classes on the &#8220;Autism Epidemic and Vaccination&#8221;.  The best ideas arise from freedom, not limiting speech, even when that speech pisses you off.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcusBailius</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcusBailius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t the FDA have a requirement for effectiveness? And indeed safety? I wonder if the FDA has a position on these things... If they are promoting them as benefiting health etc. the FDA might be able to hit them with all sorts of requirements under the medical device regulations etc...

Katharine, reply 11: Its the KISS principle, slightly modified.

Keep It Stupid, Simples!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the FDA have a requirement for effectiveness? And indeed safety? I wonder if the FDA has a position on these things&#8230; If they are promoting them as benefiting health etc. the FDA might be able to hit them with all sorts of requirements under the medical device regulations etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Katharine, reply 11: Its the KISS principle, slightly modified.</p>
<p>Keep It Stupid, Simples!</p>
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