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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Cherish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343381</link>
		<dc:creator>Cherish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d really like to see a version of this in x-ray or UV so you can see what the field lines are doing.  Sometimes you can tell by looking at the motion of the prominence, but this one isn&#039;t so obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really like to see a version of this in x-ray or UV so you can see what the field lines are doing.  Sometimes you can tell by looking at the motion of the prominence, but this one isn&#8217;t so obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343197</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I really like is the moving time-stamps.  I always wonder about the time scale of these astronomical videos.  By my count, the video covers a span of time about 225 minutes long.  So we&#039;re talking something like 2000x realtime  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I really like is the moving time-stamps.  I always wonder about the time scale of these astronomical videos.  By my count, the video covers a span of time about 225 minutes long.  So we&#8217;re talking something like 2000x realtime  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CompaniaHill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343192</link>
		<dc:creator>CompaniaHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Arc of dissent&quot;?  I gotta ask.  Slither?  Or Dolan&#039;s Cadillac?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arc of dissent&#8221;?  I gotta ask.  Slither?  Or Dolan&#8217;s Cadillac?  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343189</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recursive link is recursive :D

That&#039;s an awesome video (I sure do use the word &quot;awesome&quot; an awful lot when describing the things I see here!)

Question:  So is this a prominence that turned into a coronal mass ejection?  Or something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recursive link is recursive <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s an awesome video (I sure do use the word &#8220;awesome&#8221; an awful lot when describing the things I see here!)</p>
<p>Question:  So is this a prominence that turned into a coronal mass ejection?  Or something else?</p>
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		<title>By: BicycleRepairMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343180</link>
		<dc:creator>BicycleRepairMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18.   Tommy Says: 
December 8th, 2010 at 10:27 am
@Phil: Now the link is recursive.

LOL. Phil is such a blog-nOOb!

jk :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18.   Tommy Says:<br />
December 8th, 2010 at 10:27 am<br />
@Phil: Now the link is recursive.</p>
<p>LOL. Phil is such a blog-nOOb!</p>
<p>jk <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could put in an order for a little more solar warmth here in coastal South Carolina. Seventeen last night with nightly temps in the twenties and thirties the last two weeks with no end in sight. My sixty-six y.o. bones cant take much more but I did manage a four mile run at noon today; the temp was thirty-four. And no, the political hot air here doesn&#039;t help and, yes, I know that is redundant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could put in an order for a little more solar warmth here in coastal South Carolina. Seventeen last night with nightly temps in the twenties and thirties the last two weeks with no end in sight. My sixty-six y.o. bones cant take much more but I did manage a four mile run at noon today; the temp was thirty-four. And no, the political hot air here doesn&#8217;t help and, yes, I know that is redundant.</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343150</link>
		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at that and contemplating the relativity of BIG, the thought occurred to me: a comparable prominence on another star (say a star like, oh, Betelgeuse?) could be BIGGER THAN THE SUN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at that and contemplating the relativity of BIG, the thought occurred to me: a comparable prominence on another star (say a star like, oh, Betelgeuse?) could be BIGGER THAN THE SUN!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, Solar flares commonly produce a solar prominence, but without the energetic explosion, this particular event was just a prominence? 

Is there another defining factor that I&#039;m missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, Solar flares commonly produce a solar prominence, but without the energetic explosion, this particular event was just a prominence? </p>
<p>Is there another defining factor that I&#8217;m missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Regner Trampedach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regner Trampedach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob @ 9: Hardly real-time. Look at the clock in the lower left corner of the movie. I can&#039;t see the time-stamp for the first 2/3 of the movie because the movieplayer controls cover it, but the last 1/3 cover about two hours - so six hours all in all. Most web-surfers would be pretty bored after 30 seconds of real-time solar footage... :-)
    Cheers,   Regner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob @ 9: Hardly real-time. Look at the clock in the lower left corner of the movie. I can&#8217;t see the time-stamp for the first 2/3 of the movie because the movieplayer controls cover it, but the last 1/3 cover about two hours &#8211; so six hours all in all. Most web-surfers would be pretty bored after 30 seconds of real-time solar footage&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
    Cheers,   Regner</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343129</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob (#9):

&quot;How long would u have to look at another galaxy say Andromeda, taking multiple pictures, to be able to see some change or spin? Or is there too much detail? or just too far away?&quot;

Galaxies spin far too slowly for us to detect optically.  Consider that the Sun takes ~225 M years to orbit the galactic center.  In terms of rotation, that&#039;s a bit less than 2 millionths of a degree of progress along its orbit per year.  Similar motion viewed in our nearest neighboring spiral (M31, 2.5 Mly away)) would produce motion on the sky of around 30 billionths of a degree per year, or a tenth of a milliarcsecond.  That&#039;s several orders of magnitude smaller than the finest detail we can currently resolve with the most advanced imaging optics.

However, utilizing Very Long Baseline Interferometry techniques with radio telescopes, astronomers have been able to directly detect the motion (both spin and motion through space) of M33  (in the Local Group) over a three year span.  But it&#039;s not really the same as taking two pictures and being able to see the difference between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob (#9):</p>
<p>&#8220;How long would u have to look at another galaxy say Andromeda, taking multiple pictures, to be able to see some change or spin? Or is there too much detail? or just too far away?&#8221;</p>
<p>Galaxies spin far too slowly for us to detect optically.  Consider that the Sun takes ~225 M years to orbit the galactic center.  In terms of rotation, that&#8217;s a bit less than 2 millionths of a degree of progress along its orbit per year.  Similar motion viewed in our nearest neighboring spiral (M31, 2.5 Mly away)) would produce motion on the sky of around 30 billionths of a degree per year, or a tenth of a milliarcsecond.  That&#8217;s several orders of magnitude smaller than the finest detail we can currently resolve with the most advanced imaging optics.</p>
<p>However, utilizing Very Long Baseline Interferometry techniques with radio telescopes, astronomers have been able to directly detect the motion (both spin and motion through space) of M33  (in the Local Group) over a three year span.  But it&#8217;s not really the same as taking two pictures and being able to see the difference between them.</p>
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		<title>By: hale-bopp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343125</link>
		<dc:creator>hale-bopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You weren&#039;t really wrong...MOST of the time they do collapse!  You can&#039;t always pick out that one that is going to do something different!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You weren&#8217;t really wrong&#8230;MOST of the time they do collapse!  You can&#8217;t always pick out that one that is going to do something different!</p>
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		<title>By: kevbo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343116</link>
		<dc:creator>kevbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1 &amp; @18

Don&#039;t forget the benefits.  All that magnetic chi flowing around the planet would probably wipe out every known disease.  Wayyy better than a wristband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1 &#038; @18</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the benefits.  All that magnetic chi flowing around the planet would probably wipe out every known disease.  Wayyy better than a wristband.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343103</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil: Now the link is recursive.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343095</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.   critter42

&quot;what kind of effects would we have been looking at if that was aimed right at Earth?&quot;

Exceptional aurora, possibly some grid outages as the power lines get overloaded by magnetic induction, maybe a bit of degradation of the ozone layer and interference with sat. communications.

,,,basically, not much,,,

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.   critter42</p>
<p>&#8220;what kind of effects would we have been looking at if that was aimed right at Earth?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exceptional aurora, possibly some grid outages as the power lines get overloaded by magnetic induction, maybe a bit of degradation of the ozone layer and interference with sat. communications.</p>
<p>,,,basically, not much,,,</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But this time, I was wrong: it turns out this one did indeed burst away from the Sun.&quot;
We could have been dead you know.
And that from the death from the sky specialist.
harruummppfff
A few more of these posts and I´ll become a sceptic.
You unscared me for nothing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But this time, I was wrong: it turns out this one did indeed burst away from the Sun.&#8221;<br />
We could have been dead you know.<br />
And that from the death from the sky specialist.<br />
harruummppfff<br />
A few more of these posts and I´ll become a sceptic.<br />
You unscared me for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Zucchi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343087</link>
		<dc:creator>Zucchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cats!  Easy there, Mr. Sun.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame man-made global warming!</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343072</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We humans think we&#039;re pretty hot stuff.  But when you begin to understand how much the sun, comets, asteroids, volcanoes, and climate changes have affected life on earth you come to realize the infinitesimal odds of us being around at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We humans think we&#8217;re pretty hot stuff.  But when you begin to understand how much the sun, comets, asteroids, volcanoes, and climate changes have affected life on earth you come to realize the infinitesimal odds of us being around at all.</p>
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		<title>By: fred edison</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343069</link>
		<dc:creator>fred edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t too difficult to imagine why people would worship the Sun.  The Sun is ginormous and full of light (say what?!).  And that&#039;s before we had spectacular OMG views like this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t too difficult to imagine why people would worship the Sun.  The Sun is ginormous and full of light (say what?!).  And that&#8217;s before we had spectacular OMG views like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343060</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is absolutely magnificent to see and terrifying to think about!
No mea culpa necessary. In your post you said &quot;almost&quot; not &quot;all&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is absolutely magnificent to see and terrifying to think about!<br />
No mea culpa necessary. In your post you said &#8220;almost&#8221; not &#8220;all&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343051</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carey:  LOL, I made it my desktop too.  I had to cut it in half so I could stretch it across two monitors.  Looks good actually; sort on non-typical to see an image of the sun above rather than the sun below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carey:  LOL, I made it my desktop too.  I had to cut it in half so I could stretch it across two monitors.  Looks good actually; sort on non-typical to see an image of the sun above rather than the sun below.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343050</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that realtime speed?
How long would u have to look at another galaxy say Andromeda, taking multiple pictures, to be able to see some change or spin? Or is there too much detail? or just too far away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that realtime speed?<br />
How long would u have to look at another galaxy say Andromeda, taking multiple pictures, to be able to see some change or spin? Or is there too much detail? or just too far away?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343047</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, okay... I&#039;ll let it slide THIS time...

[grumble, grumble]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, okay&#8230; I&#8217;ll let it slide THIS time&#8230;</p>
<p>[grumble, grumble]</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343043</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike (6): Sorry about that! I fixed the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike (6): Sorry about that! I fixed the link.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/08/arc-of-dissent/comment-page-1/#comment-343042</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to the previous post goes to the previous post, not the previous Sun flare post.  You cost me an extra three clicks, you dirty so-and-so!

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/06/a-huge-looping-prominence-on-the-sun/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to the previous post goes to the previous post, not the previous Sun flare post.  You cost me an extra three clicks, you dirty so-and-so!</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/06/a-huge-looping-prominence-on-the-sun/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/06/a-huge-looping-prominence-on-the-sun/</a></p>
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