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		<title>By: Daniel W</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/22/raising-an-impact-in-africa/#comment-271773</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s just a bit after post but it&#039;s linked to day&#039;s entry...

Pretty neat illusion! @ Keith 35: Bebop FTW! Music is indeed epic!

About the fact that it&#039;s domed rather than a crater, I suspect it may actually be an erosional feature (maybe with regional uplift however) - it&#039;s quite possible the heat/shock of impact could fuse the rock, making it more resistant to erosion. Thats similar to why you see tall, thin, ancient volcanic necks occasionally poking out of the plains, the basalt is much more resistant to erosion than relatively loose ash that made up the mountain.

Thanks for the awesome blog!</description>
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<p>Pretty neat illusion! @ Keith 35: Bebop FTW! Music is indeed epic!</p>
<p>About the fact that it&#8217;s domed rather than a crater, I suspect it may actually be an erosional feature (maybe with regional uplift however) &#8211; it&#8217;s quite possible the heat/shock of impact could fuse the rock, making it more resistant to erosion. Thats similar to why you see tall, thin, ancient volcanic necks occasionally poking out of the plains, the basalt is much more resistant to erosion than relatively loose ash that made up the mountain.</p>
<p>Thanks for the awesome blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/22/raising-an-impact-in-africa/#comment-271772</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 05:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35:  Ah yes, the music - yet another reason that show kicked quite a lot of posterior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35:  Ah yes, the music &#8211; yet another reason that show kicked quite a lot of posterior.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Bowden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Bowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time to blow this scene, get everybody and the stuff together.
Okay 3, 2, 1 Let&#039;s Jam

Okay, time to watch &lt;b&gt;Bebop&lt;/b&gt; again.  Crank up the surrounds!  (Now if I can only remember between which episodes the movie fall in...)

I&#039;m another one with a general reverse-perception on the crater/dome illusion; it always looks like a dome when the light comes from above rather than below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time to blow this scene, get everybody and the stuff together.<br />
Okay 3, 2, 1 Let&#8217;s Jam</p>
<p>Okay, time to watch <b>Bebop</b> again.  Crank up the surrounds!  (Now if I can only remember between which episodes the movie fall in&#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m another one with a general reverse-perception on the crater/dome illusion; it always looks like a dome when the light comes from above rather than below.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/22/raising-an-impact-in-africa/#comment-271770</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary Ansorge:  Thanks, I now have a list of stuff to Google today ;)
Cowboy Bebop did indeed rule.  In some ways it was much &quot;harder&quot; sci-fi then a lot of anime (I&#039;m thinking of giant humanoid robots here).  That and Firefly both - why oh why do the &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; shows get cancelled??

And Merry Belated Christmas to anyone who celebrates it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary Ansorge:  Thanks, I now have a list of stuff to Google today <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Cowboy Bebop did indeed rule.  In some ways it was much &#8220;harder&#8221; sci-fi then a lot of anime (I&#8217;m thinking of giant humanoid robots here).  That and Firefly both &#8211; why oh why do the <i>good</i> shows get cancelled??</p>
<p>And Merry Belated Christmas to anyone who celebrates it!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32.   Joseph G

&quot;But it’s an unfathomably huge chunk of change with very little payoff other then the coolness factor, as things stand now&quot;

&quot;Now&quot;,,,ummm, yeah, but, it won&#039;t always be like &quot;now&quot;. When Gerard O&#039;Neille first postulated Power Sats in the &#039;70s, he used the figure $100 billion to build the first (10 GigaWatt) sat and $ 10 billion for each succeeding one. That was predicated on the figures NASA predicted for  space shuttle launch costs. (and we know how well THAT went). These days, I&#039;d probably be inclined to wait on either nuc powered primary launchers(the Nuc Light Bulb), Space tethers or mag launchers(like those from Launch Point Technologies). That reduces the launch costs to more reasonable levels(around$ 100 to $200/lb). The big thing about Power Sats is the 24 hr solar availability and higher intensities(1350 watts/m^2 vs 400 on earths equator at noon).

,,,but the power is just an economic justification that provides a rationale for other kinds of space development. Once you have the installed infrastructure and a primary economic driver, the rest follows.

Gary 7

PS I too, really enjoyed Cowboy Bebop. Reminded me a little of the Firefly universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32.   Joseph G</p>
<p>&#8220;But it’s an unfathomably huge chunk of change with very little payoff other then the coolness factor, as things stand now&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Now&#8221;,,,ummm, yeah, but, it won&#8217;t always be like &#8220;now&#8221;. When Gerard O&#8217;Neille first postulated Power Sats in the &#8217;70s, he used the figure $100 billion to build the first (10 GigaWatt) sat and $ 10 billion for each succeeding one. That was predicated on the figures NASA predicted for  space shuttle launch costs. (and we know how well THAT went). These days, I&#8217;d probably be inclined to wait on either nuc powered primary launchers(the Nuc Light Bulb), Space tethers or mag launchers(like those from Launch Point Technologies). That reduces the launch costs to more reasonable levels(around$ 100 to $200/lb). The big thing about Power Sats is the 24 hr solar availability and higher intensities(1350 watts/m^2 vs 400 on earths equator at noon).</p>
<p>,,,but the power is just an economic justification that provides a rationale for other kinds of space development. Once you have the installed infrastructure and a primary economic driver, the rest follows.</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
<p>PS I too, really enjoyed Cowboy Bebop. Reminded me a little of the Firefly universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary Ansorge:  Merry Christmas/Spacemas to y&#039;all, too  :)
That&#039;s an interesting question (re tidal forces).  I&#039;m sure that someone sufficiently skilled in math could ferret out the forces involved.

IIRC, the anime &quot;Cowboy Bebop&quot; took place in a universe where the mother of all industrial accidents had essentially blown up an enormous chunk of the moon and showered the earth with fragments to the point that it became pretty much uninhabitable*.  I believe the earth had rings of moon debris, too.

*This actually resolves an important realism issue with a lot of sci-fi that involves space colonization, being &quot;Why the heck did people spend all that money to colonize the rest of the solar system, and in a relatively short time (a hundred years or so)?&quot;
Let&#039;s face it, we could colonize mars or the moon NOW if we really wanted to.  But it&#039;s an unfathomably huge chunk of change with very little payoff other then the coolness factor, as things stand now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary Ansorge:  Merry Christmas/Spacemas to y&#8217;all, too  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
That&#8217;s an interesting question (re tidal forces).  I&#8217;m sure that someone sufficiently skilled in math could ferret out the forces involved.</p>
<p>IIRC, the anime &#8220;Cowboy Bebop&#8221; took place in a universe where the mother of all industrial accidents had essentially blown up an enormous chunk of the moon and showered the earth with fragments to the point that it became pretty much uninhabitable*.  I believe the earth had rings of moon debris, too.</p>
<p>*This actually resolves an important realism issue with a lot of sci-fi that involves space colonization, being &#8220;Why the heck did people spend all that money to colonize the rest of the solar system, and in a relatively short time (a hundred years or so)?&#8221;<br />
Let&#8217;s face it, we could colonize mars or the moon NOW if we really wanted to.  But it&#8217;s an unfathomably huge chunk of change with very little payoff other then the coolness factor, as things stand now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, four miles wide, so about 16 times wider than Meteor Crater in Arizona.
70 million years ago that area was probably green and well occupied by critters. Just off the top of my head, I&#039;ll bet for a hundred mile radius around the impact zone, there was a lot of well cooked meat.

The asteroid that made a really bad day for the dinosaurs was half again as wide as this crater. So many big impacts in such a short time frame. Hopefully, clusters such as these won&#039;t occur as often today as they did then(or be as big). (Have we &quot;cleared&quot; our local orbit yet?).

It would be way cool if earth captured a large asteroid in geosynchronous orbit. I wonder how large it would have to be to be broken up by tidal stresses? Rings, RINGS I say, for lovers and near earth  (asteroid) miners.

Merry Xmas, Y&#039;All.

Peace.

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, four miles wide, so about 16 times wider than Meteor Crater in Arizona.<br />
70 million years ago that area was probably green and well occupied by critters. Just off the top of my head, I&#8217;ll bet for a hundred mile radius around the impact zone, there was a lot of well cooked meat.</p>
<p>The asteroid that made a really bad day for the dinosaurs was half again as wide as this crater. So many big impacts in such a short time frame. Hopefully, clusters such as these won&#8217;t occur as often today as they did then(or be as big). (Have we &#8220;cleared&#8221; our local orbit yet?).</p>
<p>It would be way cool if earth captured a large asteroid in geosynchronous orbit. I wonder how large it would have to be to be broken up by tidal stresses? Rings, RINGS I say, for lovers and near earth  (asteroid) miners.</p>
<p>Merry Xmas, Y&#8217;All.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 00:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does look quite Martian...</description>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 3-D view, it looks like half the rim has completely eroded away, and left a channel instead.  Is the rim softer than the crater floor, being a pile of ejecta?  Then during a time when the local climate was much wetter, a river may have eroded the rim but left the crater floor.  (There does appear to be what might be a dry river bed passing by the southwestern edge of the crater in the main picture.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 3-D view, it looks like half the rim has completely eroded away, and left a channel instead.  Is the rim softer than the crater floor, being a pile of ejecta?  Then during a time when the local climate was much wetter, a river may have eroded the rim but left the crater floor.  (There does appear to be what might be a dry river bed passing by the southwestern edge of the crater in the main picture.)</p>
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		<title>By: psuedonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>psuedonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;illusion&#039; is reversed for me too. The first image appears to be a crater on top of a plateau, whereas the &#039;flipped&#039; image looks like a dome in a basin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;illusion&#8217; is reversed for me too. The first image appears to be a crater on top of a plateau, whereas the &#8216;flipped&#8217; image looks like a dome in a basin.</p>
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