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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experimental proposal for the astrologers:

Have the clients describe their personalities, then have the astrologers predict their sign.  Hypothesis:  The astrologers will do no better than random chance.

Meta-prediction:  Only the most flawed, profoundly broken astrologers will accept the experiment.  If the astrologer wins they earn nothing.  If astrologer loses they earn nothing.  The experiment only appeals to people who are not in the astrologers target market!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experimental proposal for the astrologers:</p>
<p>Have the clients describe their personalities, then have the astrologers predict their sign.  Hypothesis:  The astrologers will do no better than random chance.</p>
<p>Meta-prediction:  Only the most flawed, profoundly broken astrologers will accept the experiment.  If the astrologer wins they earn nothing.  If astrologer loses they earn nothing.  The experiment only appeals to people who are not in the astrologers target market!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Gluck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275455</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gluck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once, when working for a magazine and writing the scientific column, the astrologer lady quit and I was asked to write temporary her column too. I accepted and I have used exclusively
my imagination to compose the daily horroscopes. Nobody has observed the change from professional astrology to a fake one- the number of readers raised. All I had to take care was
to respect a specific Pareto Rule: 80% positive predictions, 20% slightly bad, nothing really bad.
Astrology is actually the most stupid shortcut to the Interestingness of the world, see please
my paper &quot;My favorite I-word&quot; in my blog http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
But it is an excellent business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once, when working for a magazine and writing the scientific column, the astrologer lady quit and I was asked to write temporary her column too. I accepted and I have used exclusively<br />
my imagination to compose the daily horroscopes. Nobody has observed the change from professional astrology to a fake one- the number of readers raised. All I had to take care was<br />
to respect a specific Pareto Rule: 80% positive predictions, 20% slightly bad, nothing really bad.<br />
Astrology is actually the most stupid shortcut to the Interestingness of the world, see please<br />
my paper &#8220;My favorite I-word&#8221; in my blog <a href="http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com</a><br />
But it is an excellent business.</p>
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		<title>By: Merle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275454</link>
		<dc:creator>Merle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Paradox wrote: I remember years ago, I read an astrology book that insisted that there should be 14 (?) signs, adding both Ophiuchus and Cetus, The Whale.

Don’t tell anybody… but yes. according to the Starry Night planetarium software I use, the Sun grazes Cetus for about 13.5 hours on March 27th – 28th each year. The Sun is also VERY close to Orion on June 19-21 (less than the moons diameter). According to the software, by 4300AD the Sun will begin grazing Orion and around 6500AD the Sun will be “officially” within the constellation Orion between Aug. 18 – 21. Now, by that time, Polaris would have long since vacated the north celestial pole and will reside nearly 24 degrees from it’s current prominent position. I’d love to be around when the 15 signs of the zodiac are “announced”

Now, from the “devil’s advocate” position… simply change the constellation boundaries and it will be 12 zodiac constellations forever.

Clear Skies, Merle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Paradox wrote: I remember years ago, I read an astrology book that insisted that there should be 14 (?) signs, adding both Ophiuchus and Cetus, The Whale.</p>
<p>Don’t tell anybody… but yes. according to the Starry Night planetarium software I use, the Sun grazes Cetus for about 13.5 hours on March 27th – 28th each year. The Sun is also VERY close to Orion on June 19-21 (less than the moons diameter). According to the software, by 4300AD the Sun will begin grazing Orion and around 6500AD the Sun will be “officially” within the constellation Orion between Aug. 18 – 21. Now, by that time, Polaris would have long since vacated the north celestial pole and will reside nearly 24 degrees from it’s current prominent position. I’d love to be around when the 15 signs of the zodiac are “announced”</p>
<p>Now, from the “devil’s advocate” position… simply change the constellation boundaries and it will be 12 zodiac constellations forever.</p>
<p>Clear Skies, Merle</p>
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		<title>By: WJM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275453</link>
		<dc:creator>WJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they obviously did this wrong, because I&#039;m an Ophiuchus now, and they don&#039;t even have Ophiuchus on their thingie. Us Ophiachans can see through methodological errors like that, what with our attention to detail and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they obviously did this wrong, because I&#8217;m an Ophiuchus now, and they don&#8217;t even have Ophiuchus on their thingie. Us Ophiachans can see through methodological errors like that, what with our attention to detail and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275452</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>51.   Keith Bowden

Oops! Bit bucket overflow error,,,

Thanks!(for the memory)

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>51.   Keith Bowden</p>
<p>Oops! Bit bucket overflow error,,,</p>
<p>Thanks!(for the memory)</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Gunnar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, astrology has one frustrating advantage that is quite difficult to overcome.  The late Isaac Asimov, perhaps, stated it best.  &quot;The advantage of mysticiscm is that having no logical content to begin with, it cannot be further damaged by any further increase in nonsense--no matter how great.&quot;

I wonder, though--when Cosmos Gal admitted that astrology was a pseudoscience, was she also admitting that it is all bunk, or was she implying that pseudoscience deserves to be seriously considered as equal or superior to real science as a valid source of truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, astrology has one frustrating advantage that is quite difficult to overcome.  The late Isaac Asimov, perhaps, stated it best.  &#8220;The advantage of mysticiscm is that having no logical content to begin with, it cannot be further damaged by any further increase in nonsense&#8211;no matter how great.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder, though&#8211;when Cosmos Gal admitted that astrology was a pseudoscience, was she also admitting that it is all bunk, or was she implying that pseudoscience deserves to be seriously considered as equal or superior to real science as a valid source of truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Lila</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275450</link>
		<dc:creator>Lila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE this website. Awesome. Thanks Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE this website. Awesome. Thanks Phil.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrologers keep feeling sure &#171; Cubik&#039;s Rube</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275449</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrologers keep feeling sure &#171; Cubik&#039;s Rube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phil Plait&#8216;s write-up of this points to this article on astrology.com, which offers some revealing advice (just before happily admitting that astrology is pseudoscience) to readers who, while happy to base their life choices around some imaginary pictures in the sky, are worried that they&#8217;ve been using the wrong ones: If it&#8217;s always been easy to link predictions to actual events using your sun sign, continue to follow that. If you&#8217;ve been reading your rising sign like me, and it works, continue that. If you feel your &#8220;new&#8221; zodiac sign coincides more. You just may even want to give that a whirl! [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phil Plait&#8216;s write-up of this points to this article on astrology.com, which offers some revealing advice (just before happily admitting that astrology is pseudoscience) to readers who, while happy to base their life choices around some imaginary pictures in the sky, are worried that they&#8217;ve been using the wrong ones: If it&#8217;s always been easy to link predictions to actual events using your sun sign, continue to follow that. If you&#8217;ve been reading your rising sign like me, and it works, continue that. If you feel your &#8220;new&#8221; zodiac sign coincides more. You just may even want to give that a whirl! [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/01/22/horror-scoped/#comment-275448</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bianca (50) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I think astrology is a funny thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What, you think it&#039;s funny that people demand money for making stuff up and pretending it&#039;s real?

&lt;blockquote&gt; I don’t care if it is considered a pseudoscience or not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not a question of what it is considered to be - it&#039;s a question of whether or not it does what it claims.  And astrology really doesn&#039;t do what it claims.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The article is pointless.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why?

&lt;blockquote&gt; The predictions are almost the same for all signs because there are the same planets and possible relative positions between them!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope.  The predictions are almost the same for all signs because astrologers just recycle the same words over and over again.  The predictions of actual astrologers are almost the same for all signs - you only have to look in half a dozen newspapers on the same day, or the same newspaper several times over the course of a month to see this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bianca (50) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think astrology is a funny thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>What, you think it&#8217;s funny that people demand money for making stuff up and pretending it&#8217;s real?</p>
<blockquote><p> I don’t care if it is considered a pseudoscience or not.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not a question of what it is considered to be &#8211; it&#8217;s a question of whether or not it does what it claims.  And astrology really doesn&#8217;t do what it claims.</p>
<blockquote><p>The article is pointless.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why?</p>
<blockquote><p> The predictions are almost the same for all signs because there are the same planets and possible relative positions between them!</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope.  The predictions are almost the same for all signs because astrologers just recycle the same words over and over again.  The predictions of actual astrologers are almost the same for all signs &#8211; you only have to look in half a dozen newspapers on the same day, or the same newspaper several times over the course of a month to see this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Other Paul (16) -
WIN!

Where do I sign up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Other Paul (16) -<br />
WIN!</p>
<p>Where do I sign up?</p>
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