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	<title>Comments on: &#8230; and if you look out the right side window you&#8217;ll see a rocket launch&#8230;</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: ASFalcon13</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASFalcon13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Contrary to popular belief, there are no unannounced launches from Vandenberg or the Cape or anywhere else in the US. If you are expecting to hear about it by watching the local news or something, then you’re not…but that doesn’t mean they are “unannounced” just because you didn’t know.

All launches, spy satellites (“intel sats”) and even the missile defense tests out there, are announced publicly.&quot;

Quite publicly.  Here, for example:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Contrary to popular belief, there are no unannounced launches from Vandenberg or the Cape or anywhere else in the US. If you are expecting to hear about it by watching the local news or something, then you’re not…but that doesn’t mean they are “unannounced” just because you didn’t know.</p>
<p>All launches, spy satellites (“intel sats”) and even the missile defense tests out there, are announced publicly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite publicly.  Here, for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rodolfo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodolfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much I envy you !!! From Buenos Aires it&#039;s quite difficult to see the launch of a rochet of any kind (as you can imagine) but, the launch of Apollo 15: OH MAN!!! I have a blog about the Apollo program (in spanish for those who don&#039;t speak English: homenajenasa.blogspot.com). I was finishing primary school at that time and I remember each TV live transmision very well. Kids nowadays think that satelital communications has been there forever, but some of us still remember when you had to wait for the next day&#039;s newspaper to see a bad photo of some event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much I envy you !!! From Buenos Aires it&#8217;s quite difficult to see the launch of a rochet of any kind (as you can imagine) but, the launch of Apollo 15: OH MAN!!! I have a blog about the Apollo program (in spanish for those who don&#8217;t speak English: homenajenasa.blogspot.com). I was finishing primary school at that time and I remember each TV live transmision very well. Kids nowadays think that satelital communications has been there forever, but some of us still remember when you had to wait for the next day&#8217;s newspaper to see a bad photo of some event.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil Haggath (34) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Even back in 1995, when the film Apollo 13 was released, I came across many younger people who knew nothing about the story. Many who watched the film actually didn’t know whether or not the astronauts made it home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, I guess that would have added to the suspense!

I had seen a documentary about Apollo 13 in perhaps &#039;93 or &#039;94, but prior to that I did not know much about it, other than the fact that 13 never made a moon landing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Haggath (34) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Even back in 1995, when the film Apollo 13 was released, I came across many younger people who knew nothing about the story. Many who watched the film actually didn’t know whether or not the astronauts made it home.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, I guess that would have added to the suspense!</p>
<p>I had seen a documentary about Apollo 13 in perhaps &#8217;93 or &#8217;94, but prior to that I did not know much about it, other than the fact that 13 never made a moon landing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Skor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Skor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the early 90&#039;s, I saw a Shuttle launch from Delta flight. I was flying out of Daytona Beach. We taxied to the end of the runway and just sat there - perfect weather and not another plane in site. Only about 20 on the flight and we started to get annoyed.

Then the pilot said that the shuttle was taking off in 12 minutes so we were taking off in 9. He said to get on the right side of the plane.

It was spectacular - really got a sense of the speed at launch.

Only time I have seen a launch BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early 90&#8242;s, I saw a Shuttle launch from Delta flight. I was flying out of Daytona Beach. We taxied to the end of the runway and just sat there &#8211; perfect weather and not another plane in site. Only about 20 on the flight and we started to get annoyed.</p>
<p>Then the pilot said that the shuttle was taking off in 12 minutes so we were taking off in 9. He said to get on the right side of the plane.</p>
<p>It was spectacular &#8211; really got a sense of the speed at launch.</p>
<p>Only time I have seen a launch BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne on the Plains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne on the Plains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen two Delta II&#039;s, one from each coast. Still trying to catch a Shuttle Launch, I&#039;m running out of chances...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen two Delta II&#8217;s, one from each coast. Still trying to catch a Shuttle Launch, I&#8217;m running out of chances&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas, PE SE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas, PE SE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feller I knew, construction superintendent, was working on a hotel in Orlando -- was on the roof when he saw a Shuttle launch from Kennedy.  He saw it go up, then it looked a little funny...
...it was Challenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feller I knew, construction superintendent, was working on a hotel in Orlando &#8212; was on the roof when he saw a Shuttle launch from Kennedy.  He saw it go up, then it looked a little funny&#8230;<br />
&#8230;it was Challenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 MTU:

&quot;Now, history class is, alas, the main place kids these days will learn of Glenn &amp; the others.&quot;

I hate to say it, but at least in my country ( UK ), they don&#039;t learn &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; about Glenn and the others, full stop. In my experience, most young people today have absolutely zero knowledge of the early space programme, including Apollo.
I have a younger friend - a pretty intelligent guy in his 30&#039;s - who, when I mentioned them, had honestly &lt;i&gt;never heard&lt;/i&gt; of Buzz Aldrin or Yuri Gagarin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( He had heard of Neil Armstrong, but that was the sum total of his knowledge of the subject. )
Even back in 1995, when the film &lt;i&gt;Apollo 13&lt;/i&gt; was released, I came across many younger people who knew nothing about the story. Many who watched the film actually didn&#039;t know whether or not the astronauts made it home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 MTU:</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, history class is, alas, the main place kids these days will learn of Glenn &amp; the others.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hate to say it, but at least in my country ( UK ), they don&#8217;t learn <i>anything</i> about Glenn and the others, full stop. In my experience, most young people today have absolutely zero knowledge of the early space programme, including Apollo.<br />
I have a younger friend &#8211; a pretty intelligent guy in his 30&#8242;s &#8211; who, when I mentioned them, had honestly <i>never heard</i> of Buzz Aldrin or Yuri Gagarin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( He had heard of Neil Armstrong, but that was the sum total of his knowledge of the subject. )<br />
Even back in 1995, when the film <i>Apollo 13</i> was released, I came across many younger people who knew nothing about the story. Many who watched the film actually didn&#8217;t know whether or not the astronauts made it home.</p>
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		<title>By: Mchl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mchl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah? So you&#039;re basing all your  opinions about moon hoax on the single fact, that you saw Saturn V launch as a kid??? Let me ask you something mr. Bad Astronomer. How do you even know it was not a dream in the first place??
[/crazy rant]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah? So you&#8217;re basing all your  opinions about moon hoax on the single fact, that you saw Saturn V launch as a kid??? Let me ask you something mr. Bad Astronomer. How do you even know it was not a dream in the first place??<br />
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Solitha : &lt;i&gt;I would desperately love to see the shuttle launch before it’s gone forever. Sadly, there’s no way to pull it off…  &lt;/i&gt;

Me too. :-(

Sadly, the closest I&#039;ve come to a shuttle launch is my TV  or monitor screen.  If only they&#039;d launch them from Woomera instead! ;-) 

Thinking of the upcoming shuttle launch :

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_feed_above_snip_collection_archive_1.html

Notes the next scheduled &lt;i&gt;Discovery&lt;/i&gt; launch attempt is the  24th of February 2011 for the STS-133 mission with &lt;i&gt;Discovery’s&lt;/i&gt; rollout to Launch Pad 39A planned for Monday, 31st January 2011.

With this : 

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html 

being the main Shuttle page on NASA&#039;s site &amp; this : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-133 

Giving y&#039;all the wiki-basics on it. :-) 

PS. I had thought it was the one with Gifford&#039;s husband, Commander Mark Kelly, flying but its not - seems that&#039;s  STS-134 instead. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Solitha : <i>I would desperately love to see the shuttle launch before it’s gone forever. Sadly, there’s no way to pull it off…  </i></p>
<p>Me too. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sadly, the closest I&#8217;ve come to a shuttle launch is my TV  or monitor screen.  If only they&#8217;d launch them from Woomera instead! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Thinking of the upcoming shuttle launch :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_feed_above_snip_collection_archive_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_feed_above_snip_collection_archive_1.html</a></p>
<p>Notes the next scheduled <i>Discovery</i> launch attempt is the  24th of February 2011 for the STS-133 mission with <i>Discovery’s</i> rollout to Launch Pad 39A planned for Monday, 31st January 2011.</p>
<p>With this : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html</a> </p>
<p>being the main Shuttle page on NASA&#8217;s site &amp; this : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-133" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-133</a> </p>
<p>Giving y&#8217;all the wiki-basics on it. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>PS. I had thought it was the one with Gifford&#8217;s husband, Commander Mark Kelly, flying but its not &#8211; seems that&#8217;s  STS-134 instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Solitha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would desperately love to see the shuttle launch before it&#039;s gone forever. Sadly, there&#039;s no way to pull it off... I can&#039;t keep rescheduling time off from work and airplane tickets with every delay.

Guess I&#039;m fortunate I got to see a couple of them at Elllington as they hopped back across the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would desperately love to see the shuttle launch before it&#8217;s gone forever. Sadly, there&#8217;s no way to pull it off&#8230; I can&#8217;t keep rescheduling time off from work and airplane tickets with every delay.</p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;m fortunate I got to see a couple of them at Elllington as they hopped back across the country.</p>
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		<title>By: RobinPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobinPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... as I read down through the comments, I was going to try to describe seeing the Apollo 17 launch that I witnessed when I was 12, but thanks to Messier&#039;s Asimov quote....nuff said...&quot;oh S**t&quot; indeed!!  To bookend my launch experiences, I also was lucky enough to take my son and my father, a NASA veteran from 1961, to see the most recent launch of the Space Shuttle Atlantis.  He is long retired and 78 years old, but NASA treated him right and gave him &quot;VIP&quot; viewing tickets that had us seated on bleachers near the Saturn V exhibit building.  From my recollection of the Apollo, the Shuttle was not as loud, as it gets up and goes....it does not loiter, pounding the ground and reaking havoc.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, the Shuttle is loud, but not like the Saturn.  Asimov&#039;s description of the artificial sun is spot on...I remember briefly turning around during the launch, and you could see clouds and such all the way to the western horizon as if the sun really was coming up.  Just unbelievable.  As a 12 year old, and as a 50 year old, as I watched both launches, I can&#039;t describe how proud I was of my father and his part in all of this.  Way to go, Dad!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; as I read down through the comments, I was going to try to describe seeing the Apollo 17 launch that I witnessed when I was 12, but thanks to Messier&#8217;s Asimov quote&#8230;.nuff said&#8230;&#8221;oh S**t&#8221; indeed!!  To bookend my launch experiences, I also was lucky enough to take my son and my father, a NASA veteran from 1961, to see the most recent launch of the Space Shuttle Atlantis.  He is long retired and 78 years old, but NASA treated him right and gave him &#8220;VIP&#8221; viewing tickets that had us seated on bleachers near the Saturn V exhibit building.  From my recollection of the Apollo, the Shuttle was not as loud, as it gets up and goes&#8230;.it does not loiter, pounding the ground and reaking havoc.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the Shuttle is loud, but not like the Saturn.  Asimov&#8217;s description of the artificial sun is spot on&#8230;I remember briefly turning around during the launch, and you could see clouds and such all the way to the western horizon as if the sun really was coming up.  Just unbelievable.  As a 12 year old, and as a 50 year old, as I watched both launches, I can&#8217;t describe how proud I was of my father and his part in all of this.  Way to go, Dad!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily enough, I&#039;ve got a signed Apollo launch picture by Al Worden. The launch picture is of 11 though =/</description>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Floyd : Wow someone here&#039;s even older than I am! ;-) 

Actually, I know that many folks here are older than me incl. the BA, it just doesn&#039;t feel that way sometimes. :-( 

Glenn&#039;s first flight. Man, &lt;I&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; would&#039;ve been something to witness even just via the box. The last &lt;i&gt;Saturn V&lt;/i&gt; was launched and the final command module returned home the year before I was born.  

@17. Rich : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Apollo 15? Kids these days! *I cut History 101 to watch John Glen launch! About half the class did too and boy was the Prof steamed!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, history class is, alas, the main place kids these days will learn of Glenn &amp; the others. :-(


Shame your Prof was steamed - I would&#039;ve thought your Prof would have appreciated the occasion and had the whole class - him or herself included - watch it together. After all Glenn&#039;s flight was making history right in front of y&#039;all! 

Here&#039;s Isaac Asimov&#039;s account of watching the launch of &lt;i&gt;Apollo 17&lt;/i&gt; (The final Lunar mission so far - Cernan, Evans &amp; Schmitt) from the cruise liner  &lt;i&gt;SS Statendam&lt;/i&gt; :  

&lt;blockquote&gt;“But zero was reached and a cloud of vapour enveloped the  rocket. I held my breath and waited for it to rise in sick suspense. It did rise at last and the vast red flower at its tail bloomed. What was surely the most concentrated man-made [sic] light on an enormous scale that the world had ever seen, illuminated the night-bound shores of Florida.

As I have said briefly in my introduction to chapter 2, the night vanished from horizon to horizon. We, and the ship, and all the world we could see, were suddenly under a dim copper dome of a sky from which the stars had washed out while below us the black sea turned an orange-grey.

In the deepest silence, the artificial sun that had so changed our immediate world rose higher and higher, and then – forty seconds after ignition – the violent shaking of the air all about the rocket engines made its way across the seven miles of sea that separated us and the shore, and reached us. With the rocket high in the air, we were shaken with a rumbling thunder so that our private and temporary day was accompanied by a private and temporary earthquake.

Sound and light ebbed majestically as the rocket continued to rise until it was a ruddy blotch in the high sky. The night was falling once more; the stars were coming out, and the sea darkened. In the sky there was a flash as the second stage came loose, and then  the rocket was a star among stars; moving, and moving and moving and growing dimmer …

And in all this, it was useless to try to speak, for there was nothing to say. The words and phrases had not been invented that would serve as an accompaniment  to that magnificent leap to the Moon, and I did not try to invent any. Had I the time and the folly and had I not been utterly crushed under sights and sounds so much greater than anything I had ever experienced, I might have tried to apostrophise the world about me and say : Oh, wonder of wonders! Oh, soaring spirit of man that conquers space and reaches indomitably towards the stars …

But I couldn’t and didn’t, and it was some young man behind me who contributed the spoken accompaniment to the rise of the spaceship.

With all the magnificent resources of the English language at his command, he chose the phrase that perhaps most intimately expressed his inner workings.

“Oh, s***”, he said, as his head tilted slowly upward. And then, with his tenor voice rising over all the silent heads on board, he added, “Oh, s**-*-*-*-*-*t!” [ rude word removed -ed.] 

Well, to each his own. I said nothing.” 

-  Page 210-211, &lt;i&gt;&#039;The Tragedy of the Moon&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, Isaac Asimov, Mercury Press, 1972.
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Just thought I&#039;d share that with y&#039;all. If only we could see its like again these many decades on. At the tiome who would&#039;ve guessed we&#039;d still not have gone back and explored and done more? :-(

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<p>Actually, I know that many folks here are older than me incl. the BA, it just doesn&#8217;t feel that way sometimes. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Glenn&#8217;s first flight. Man, <i>that</i> would&#8217;ve been something to witness even just via the box. The last <i>Saturn V</i> was launched and the final command module returned home the year before I was born.  </p>
<p>@17. Rich : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Apollo 15? Kids these days! *I cut History 101 to watch John Glen launch! About half the class did too and boy was the Prof steamed!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Now, history class is, alas, the main place kids these days will learn of Glenn &amp; the others. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Shame your Prof was steamed &#8211; I would&#8217;ve thought your Prof would have appreciated the occasion and had the whole class &#8211; him or herself included &#8211; watch it together. After all Glenn&#8217;s flight was making history right in front of y&#8217;all! </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Isaac Asimov&#8217;s account of watching the launch of <i>Apollo 17</i> (The final Lunar mission so far &#8211; Cernan, Evans &amp; Schmitt) from the cruise liner  <i>SS Statendam</i> :  </p>
<blockquote><p>“But zero was reached and a cloud of vapour enveloped the  rocket. I held my breath and waited for it to rise in sick suspense. It did rise at last and the vast red flower at its tail bloomed. What was surely the most concentrated man-made [sic] light on an enormous scale that the world had ever seen, illuminated the night-bound shores of Florida.</p>
<p>As I have said briefly in my introduction to chapter 2, the night vanished from horizon to horizon. We, and the ship, and all the world we could see, were suddenly under a dim copper dome of a sky from which the stars had washed out while below us the black sea turned an orange-grey.</p>
<p>In the deepest silence, the artificial sun that had so changed our immediate world rose higher and higher, and then – forty seconds after ignition – the violent shaking of the air all about the rocket engines made its way across the seven miles of sea that separated us and the shore, and reached us. With the rocket high in the air, we were shaken with a rumbling thunder so that our private and temporary day was accompanied by a private and temporary earthquake.</p>
<p>Sound and light ebbed majestically as the rocket continued to rise until it was a ruddy blotch in the high sky. The night was falling once more; the stars were coming out, and the sea darkened. In the sky there was a flash as the second stage came loose, and then  the rocket was a star among stars; moving, and moving and moving and growing dimmer …</p>
<p>And in all this, it was useless to try to speak, for there was nothing to say. The words and phrases had not been invented that would serve as an accompaniment  to that magnificent leap to the Moon, and I did not try to invent any. Had I the time and the folly and had I not been utterly crushed under sights and sounds so much greater than anything I had ever experienced, I might have tried to apostrophise the world about me and say : Oh, wonder of wonders! Oh, soaring spirit of man that conquers space and reaches indomitably towards the stars …</p>
<p>But I couldn’t and didn’t, and it was some young man behind me who contributed the spoken accompaniment to the rise of the spaceship.</p>
<p>With all the magnificent resources of the English language at his command, he chose the phrase that perhaps most intimately expressed his inner workings.</p>
<p>“Oh, s***”, he said, as his head tilted slowly upward. And then, with his tenor voice rising over all the silent heads on board, he added, “Oh, s**-*-*-*-*-*t!” [ rude word removed -ed.] </p>
<p>Well, to each his own. I said nothing.” </p>
<p>-  Page 210-211, <i>&#8216;The Tragedy of the Moon&#8217;</i>, Isaac Asimov, Mercury Press, 1972.
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<p>Just thought I&#8217;d share that with y&#8217;all. If only we could see its like again these many decades on. At the tiome who would&#8217;ve guessed we&#8217;d still not have gone back and explored and done more? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Discovery (sts-119) launch directly out my window in a flight from Orlando to New York a few years ago.  It is the only launch I have ever seen.  I couldn&#039;t wipe the smile off my face for the rest of the flight.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Discovery (sts-119) launch directly out my window in a flight from Orlando to New York a few years ago.  It is the only launch I have ever seen.  I couldn&#8217;t wipe the smile off my face for the rest of the flight.</p>
<p>pictures:<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/markhambly/sets/72157618610485579/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/markhambly/sets/72157618610485579/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw John Glenn launch on TV, a Gemini launch, and the first landing on the Moon.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben&#039;s right- they might not announce the exact time or provide a window, but the air and ocean space has to be cleared, so the word has to go out in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8217;s right- they might not announce the exact time or provide a window, but the air and ocean space has to be cleared, so the word has to go out in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular belief, there are no unannounced launches from Vandenberg or the Cape or anywhere else in the US. If you are expecting to hear about it by watching the local news or something, then you&#039;re not...but that doesn&#039;t mean they are &quot;unannounced&quot; just because you didn&#039;t know.

All launches, spy satellites (&quot;intel sats&quot;) and even the missile defense tests out there, are announced publicly. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular belief, there are no unannounced launches from Vandenberg or the Cape or anywhere else in the US. If you are expecting to hear about it by watching the local news or something, then you&#8217;re not&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are &#8220;unannounced&#8221; just because you didn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>All launches, spy satellites (&#8220;intel sats&#8221;) and even the missile defense tests out there, are announced publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: TedY</title>
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		<dc:creator>TedY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a recent flight to Spokane, I got to see a plane flying past us by in the opposite direction and at a lower altitude than us. Even though I had a camera out, it passed us so quickly I couldn&#039;t react fast enough to snap the shot. FYI, you can take your cameras out once you reach 10,000 feet (at least on Southwest airlines).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a recent flight to Spokane, I got to see a plane flying past us by in the opposite direction and at a lower altitude than us. Even though I had a camera out, it passed us so quickly I couldn&#8217;t react fast enough to snap the shot. FYI, you can take your cameras out once you reach 10,000 feet (at least on Southwest airlines).</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen one rocket launch in my life. It was a night-time shuttle launch back in the 90s, and we were out on Cocoa Beach a couple miles off site to watch. No one was quite sure what time or which direction. Then the entire horizon light up orange and up sprang a fireball! It was the coolest thing I&#039;ve ever seen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen one rocket launch in my life. It was a night-time shuttle launch back in the 90s, and we were out on Cocoa Beach a couple miles off site to watch. No one was quite sure what time or which direction. Then the entire horizon light up orange and up sprang a fireball! It was the coolest thing I&#8217;ve ever seen!</p>
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		<title>By: LarianLeQuella</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarianLeQuella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was carrying a satellite for the National Reconnaissance Office — that is, a spy sat. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That can neither be confirmed or denied.  Now, Dr. Plait, please step into this side room, and don&#039;t mind the gentlemen with the latex gloves.  They enjoy this less than you will.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was carrying a satellite for the National Reconnaissance Office — that is, a spy sat. </p></blockquote>
<p>That can neither be confirmed or denied.  Now, Dr. Plait, please step into this side room, and don&#8217;t mind the gentlemen with the latex gloves.  They enjoy this less than you will.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Sweden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in Sweden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to love going to the World&#039;s Fair grounds in NYC to marvel at the Saturn V engine displays as a kid. I still remember  standing on the roadside with thousands of others to wave at the motorcade of Aldrin, Collins and Armstrong as they sped off to their ticker tape parade after the first moon landing. Those Saturn V engines were freakin&#039; huge and the Delta IV engines are also. I am still proud of the unmanned missions but there is just something about the manned missions that puts a knot in my chest. Long live our space program &amp; our astronauts especially!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to love going to the World&#8217;s Fair grounds in NYC to marvel at the Saturn V engine displays as a kid. I still remember  standing on the roadside with thousands of others to wave at the motorcade of Aldrin, Collins and Armstrong as they sped off to their ticker tape parade after the first moon landing. Those Saturn V engines were freakin&#8217; huge and the Delta IV engines are also. I am still proud of the unmanned missions but there is just something about the manned missions that puts a knot in my chest. Long live our space program &amp; our astronauts especially!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seen launches from Vandenberg when I lived in LA as a kid- also saw one from just south of Flagstaff, AZ- was listening to the news on an LA station when they mentioned a rocket was visible. Pulled off at the viewpoint , great view to the west, and saw the rocket! Not bad from 450 miles. Weirdest rocket I ever saw was when I was just a kid, fifth or sixth grade, late sixties. Was walking with my dad and we saw this orange light from behind the San Gabriel Mountains lighting up the high clouds like a ginormous searchlight. Next day my dad found out Lockheed had tested a big solid booster out at Edwards AFB- mounted upside down in a pit, blasting straight up. Too cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen launches from Vandenberg when I lived in LA as a kid- also saw one from just south of Flagstaff, AZ- was listening to the news on an LA station when they mentioned a rocket was visible. Pulled off at the viewpoint , great view to the west, and saw the rocket! Not bad from 450 miles. Weirdest rocket I ever saw was when I was just a kid, fifth or sixth grade, late sixties. Was walking with my dad and we saw this orange light from behind the San Gabriel Mountains lighting up the high clouds like a ginormous searchlight. Next day my dad found out Lockheed had tested a big solid booster out at Edwards AFB- mounted upside down in a pit, blasting straight up. Too cool!</p>
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		<dc:creator>time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil!  It was an unexpected treat to catch this sight--certainly not planned. I&#039;ve caught a few launches in person and the aerial viewing experience lacks the chest-ripping thrill you get from physical proximity, but still... very sweet.   Not like anyone would need to tell you, but if you get the chance--however remote--avail yourself! GO! Even the small launches are awesome. 

Heh, my first attempt to catch the STS, we got down to T-15 and they called it----AGH! There was a huge puff of smoke and then NOTHING! So disappointing, but another visit yielded results. Landings are pretty cool too.  

In 1992, I went to Edwards and saw Endeavor come down. It is stunning how fast they fall out of the sky and come to a stop. Good fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Phil!  It was an unexpected treat to catch this sight&#8211;certainly not planned. I&#8217;ve caught a few launches in person and the aerial viewing experience lacks the chest-ripping thrill you get from physical proximity, but still&#8230; very sweet.   Not like anyone would need to tell you, but if you get the chance&#8211;however remote&#8211;avail yourself! GO! Even the small launches are awesome. </p>
<p>Heh, my first attempt to catch the STS, we got down to T-15 and they called it&#8212;-AGH! There was a huge puff of smoke and then NOTHING! So disappointing, but another visit yielded results. Landings are pretty cool too.  </p>
<p>In 1992, I went to Edwards and saw Endeavor come down. It is stunning how fast they fall out of the sky and come to a stop. Good fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it just looks like the daily 1 o&#039;clock to Tokyo, big deal.

Apollo 15? Kids these days! *I cut History 101 to watch John Glen launch! About half the class did too and boy was the Prof steamed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it just looks like the daily 1 o&#8217;clock to Tokyo, big deal.</p>
<p>Apollo 15? Kids these days! *I cut History 101 to watch John Glen launch! About half the class did too and boy was the Prof steamed!</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine worked for one of the FL Senators and got me on a VIP shuttle launch tour. It was very, very awesome seeing the launch from just 3 miles away.</description>
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