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	<title>Comments on: Challenger astronauts memorialized on the Moon</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 Huron:
Your nit-picking point doesn&#039;t alter the fact that they died in the disaster, and deserve their memorials.

#27 Mike:
The craters were &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; named by NASA; they were named by the International Astronomical Union. NASA may well have &lt;i&gt;proposed&lt;/i&gt; honouring the astronauts, but the IAU had to approve the proposal. See comment 16 for why the names were applied to craters, as opposed to any other lunar features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 Huron:<br />
Your nit-picking point doesn&#8217;t alter the fact that they died in the disaster, and deserve their memorials.</p>
<p>#27 Mike:<br />
The craters were <i>not</i> named by NASA; they were named by the International Astronomical Union. NASA may well have <i>proposed</i> honouring the astronauts, but the IAU had to approve the proposal. See comment 16 for why the names were applied to craters, as opposed to any other lunar features.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, naming craters after the victims of an aeronautical disaster.. as much as I&#039;d like that to be the case if I were to go out so spectacularly, I find it an odd choice for a public office like NASA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, naming craters after the victims of an aeronautical disaster.. as much as I&#8217;d like that to be the case if I were to go out so spectacularly, I find it an odd choice for a public office like NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Riv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 Thanks Neil, I wasn&#039;t saying it was wrong or inappropriate that they follow this tradition.  I was just saying... kinda morbid.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 Thanks Neil, I wasn&#8217;t saying it was wrong or inappropriate that they follow this tradition.  I was just saying&#8230; kinda morbid.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Huron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, Smith, McAuliffe, and Jarvis were never astronauts, since Challenger broke up before reaching the altitude reached for them to be officially recognized as astronauts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, Smith, McAuliffe, and Jarvis were never astronauts, since Challenger broke up before reaching the altitude reached for them to be officially recognized as astronauts.</p>
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		<title>By: BJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the notion that craters are an unfortunate metaphor. Whether that&#039;s sad or comic, neither is likely the intent of this memorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the notion that craters are an unfortunate metaphor. Whether that&#8217;s sad or comic, neither is likely the intent of this memorial.</p>
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		<title>By: Cmdr. Awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cmdr. Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was the same as Riv (#6), but with a different perspective.  Perhaps my sense of humor is a bit odd, but I think that having died in an explosion, quite frankly the best way to be memorialized is via impact crater.  I&#039;d rather people think of that and burst into laughter at the ridiculous appropriateness of such a memorial than tearfully mourn my passing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was the same as Riv (#6), but with a different perspective.  Perhaps my sense of humor is a bit odd, but I think that having died in an explosion, quite frankly the best way to be memorialized is via impact crater.  I&#8217;d rather people think of that and burst into laughter at the ridiculous appropriateness of such a memorial than tearfully mourn my passing.</p>
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		<title>By: January 31, 2011 - Science and Religion Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>January 31, 2011 - Science and Religion Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Memorial on the Moon Friday was the 25th anniversary of the loss of the Shuttle orbiter Challenger, which I already wrote about as part of a post about Apollo 1 and Columbia. But I wanted to add that after that event in 1986, seven craters on the Moon were named after the astronauts. (Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy, Discover) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Memorial on the Moon Friday was the 25th anniversary of the loss of the Shuttle orbiter Challenger, which I already wrote about as part of a post about Apollo 1 and Columbia. But I wanted to add that after that event in 1986, seven craters on the Moon were named after the astronauts. (Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy, Discover) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 03:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus there are some poigant and very appropriate memorials including individually named locations for the &lt;i&gt;Challenger&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Columbia&lt;/i&gt; astronauts on Earth too - see :

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9821

from a comment &amp; link (#41) on the last thread on this*  by Chris Winter. Excerpt from that : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The whole idea started a month or so ago. I was sitting in a press conference at the Department of the Interior in Washington D.C., where Columbia Peak was formally dedicated to the crew of STS-107. This peak is adjacent to Challenger Peak on Kitt Carson Mountain in Colorado. 
Astronaut Scott Parazynski had come up with the idea of naming an adjacent peak in honor of the Columbia crew. Parazynski recalled how he and some friends had climbed Challenger Peak some years ago and had erected 7 small stone piles - or cairns - in memory of Challenger&#039;s crew. As I heard this an idea hit me: to mark significant navigation points on Devon Island with inukshuks and dedicate one to each member of Columbia&#039;s crew. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The writer there, Keith Cowing, went on to carry that plan through on the arctic Devon Island. That linked item is well worth a read. 

Thanks for that Chris Winter, posted again here for those who might&#039;ve missed it first time round.

---------- 
* &lt;i&gt;Apollo 1, Challenger, Columbia, and those who sacrifice for the stars&lt;/i&gt;, January 27th, 2011 9:45 AM linked above in the first sentence of the opening article by the BA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus there are some poigant and very appropriate memorials including individually named locations for the <i>Challenger</i> and <i>Columbia</i> astronauts on Earth too &#8211; see :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9821" rel="nofollow">http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9821</a></p>
<p>from a comment &amp; link (#41) on the last thread on this*  by Chris Winter. Excerpt from that : </p>
<blockquote><p>The whole idea started a month or so ago. I was sitting in a press conference at the Department of the Interior in Washington D.C., where Columbia Peak was formally dedicated to the crew of STS-107. This peak is adjacent to Challenger Peak on Kitt Carson Mountain in Colorado.<br />
Astronaut Scott Parazynski had come up with the idea of naming an adjacent peak in honor of the Columbia crew. Parazynski recalled how he and some friends had climbed Challenger Peak some years ago and had erected 7 small stone piles &#8211; or cairns &#8211; in memory of Challenger&#8217;s crew. As I heard this an idea hit me: to mark significant navigation points on Devon Island with inukshuks and dedicate one to each member of Columbia&#8217;s crew. </p></blockquote>
<p>The writer there, Keith Cowing, went on to carry that plan through on the arctic Devon Island. That linked item is well worth a read. </p>
<p>Thanks for that Chris Winter, posted again here for those who might&#8217;ve missed it first time round.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
* <i>Apollo 1, Challenger, Columbia, and those who sacrifice for the stars</i>, January 27th, 2011 9:45 AM linked above in the first sentence of the opening article by the BA.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg

&amp;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Hills_(Mars)

&amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_(rover)#Landing_site 

&amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEAR_Shoemaker 

All are good and appropriate choices and good ways to honour those who willingly  lost their lives for the exploration and better understanding of the universe in my view. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg</a></p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Hills_(Mars)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Hills_(Mars)</a></p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_(rover)#Landing_site" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_(rover)#Landing_site</a> </p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEAR_Shoemaker" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEAR_Shoemaker</a> </p>
<p>All are good and appropriate choices and good ways to honour those who willingly  lost their lives for the exploration and better understanding of the universe in my view. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1. Derek : &lt;i&gt;Are there other craters named after any of the people in that post the other day?&lt;/i&gt; 

There are the Columbia hills on Mars near the &lt;i&gt;Spirit&lt;/i&gt; rover landed site and subsequently some (all?) of those were explored by that rover. 

Incidentally, for those who don&#039;t know or have forgotten, the &lt;i&gt;Pathfinder&lt;/i&gt; martian landing site explored by the &lt;i&gt;Sojourner&lt;/i&gt; rover was named the Carl Sagan Memorial station and the NEAR mission to asteroid 433 Eros was renamed the NEAR Shoemaker in honour of asteroid scientist Eugene Shoemaker.

Anyone know if there are also any asteroids named after these heroes as well? If not, methinks, there should be.

@10. IVAN3MAN_AT_LARGE : Excellent news! I&#039;ve missed you &amp; been wondering what&#039;s happened to you. Glad to have you back. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1. Derek : <i>Are there other craters named after any of the people in that post the other day?</i> </p>
<p>There are the Columbia hills on Mars near the <i>Spirit</i> rover landed site and subsequently some (all?) of those were explored by that rover. </p>
<p>Incidentally, for those who don&#8217;t know or have forgotten, the <i>Pathfinder</i> martian landing site explored by the <i>Sojourner</i> rover was named the Carl Sagan Memorial station and the NEAR mission to asteroid 433 Eros was renamed the NEAR Shoemaker in honour of asteroid scientist Eugene Shoemaker.</p>
<p>Anyone know if there are also any asteroids named after these heroes as well? If not, methinks, there should be.</p>
<p>@10. IVAN3MAN_AT_LARGE : Excellent news! I&#8217;ve missed you &amp; been wondering what&#8217;s happened to you. Glad to have you back. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got that same type of hill illusion, then looked at the crater on the upper left of Resnik, and it corrected. Now I can go back and forth. Very cool looking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got that same type of hill illusion, then looked at the crater on the upper left of Resnik, and it corrected. Now I can go back and forth. Very cool looking</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Larian:
&quot;I remember where I was exactly on the day Challenger blew up.&quot;

Me too. It&#039;s my personal equivalent of the death of JFK! It&#039;s a cliche among my parents&#039; generation, that everyone remembers what they were doing when they heard the news that Kennedy was dead. Well, &lt;i&gt;Challenger&lt;/i&gt; is like that for me; 25 years on, I remember it vividly, and can remember every detail of what I was doing and how I heard the news - even though what I was doing was absolutely mundane and ordinary. It&#039;s something I can never forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Larian:<br />
&#8220;I remember where I was exactly on the day Challenger blew up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me too. It&#8217;s my personal equivalent of the death of JFK! It&#8217;s a cliche among my parents&#8217; generation, that everyone remembers what they were doing when they heard the news that Kennedy was dead. Well, <i>Challenger</i> is like that for me; 25 years on, I remember it vividly, and can remember every detail of what I was doing and how I heard the news &#8211; even though what I was doing was absolutely mundane and ordinary. It&#8217;s something I can never forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 Riv:
They were given craters as memorials, because that&#039;s the convention in lunar nomenclature; craters are named after people, and other features are named in other ways ( with a few exceptions, which were named before the IAU existed ).

#5 sHx:
Names for lunar and planetary features are not regarded as &quot;official&quot;, unless approved by the IAU. All proposed names have to be submitted with citations to justify them. The IAU has specific rules about what kind of names are and aren&#039;t allowed; examples of those which aren&#039;t are the names of recent political or military leaders ( which could be considered controversial ), and names which are of great significance only to a single nation. I hardly think that the people killed in space - both American and Russian - fall into that latter category; they are as worthy of memorials as any of the scientists honoured on the Moon.
Oh, and there is also a rule that ( unlike the naming of asteroids ) no-one can be honoured on the Moon during their lifetime; they have to be dead for at least three years before they can be considered. There are a very small handful of exceptions to this rule; the only ones I know of are the Apollo 11 astronauts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 Riv:<br />
They were given craters as memorials, because that&#8217;s the convention in lunar nomenclature; craters are named after people, and other features are named in other ways ( with a few exceptions, which were named before the IAU existed ).</p>
<p>#5 sHx:<br />
Names for lunar and planetary features are not regarded as &#8220;official&#8221;, unless approved by the IAU. All proposed names have to be submitted with citations to justify them. The IAU has specific rules about what kind of names are and aren&#8217;t allowed; examples of those which aren&#8217;t are the names of recent political or military leaders ( which could be considered controversial ), and names which are of great significance only to a single nation. I hardly think that the people killed in space &#8211; both American and Russian &#8211; fall into that latter category; they are as worthy of memorials as any of the scientists honoured on the Moon.<br />
Oh, and there is also a rule that ( unlike the naming of asteroids ) no-one can be honoured on the Moon during their lifetime; they have to be dead for at least three years before they can be considered. There are a very small handful of exceptions to this rule; the only ones I know of are the Apollo 11 astronauts.</p>
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		<title>By: Zucchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zucchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visual perception is so funny.  When I looked at the picture an hour ago, I couldn&#039;t make them look like craters, even keeping in mind the direction of the sunlight.  Opened it again just now -- immediately craters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visual perception is so funny.  When I looked at the picture an hour ago, I couldn&#8217;t make them look like craters, even keeping in mind the direction of the sunlight.  Opened it again just now &#8212; immediately craters.</p>
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		<title>By: LarianLeQuella</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarianLeQuella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IVAN3MAN, where the heck have you been?  I&#039;ve missed you!

I remember where I was exactly on the day Challenger blew up.  In the Det 550 student lounge at RPI.

Off Topic:  Oh, Dr. Plait, saw this LOLcat and thought of you:  http://afterdark.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/01/30/funny-pictures-astrology-cat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IVAN3MAN, where the heck have you been?  I&#8217;ve missed you!</p>
<p>I remember where I was exactly on the day Challenger blew up.  In the Det 550 student lounge at RPI.</p>
<p>Off Topic:  Oh, Dr. Plait, saw this LOLcat and thought of you:  <a href="http://afterdark.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/01/30/funny-pictures-astrology-cat/" rel="nofollow">http://afterdark.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/01/30/funny-pictures-astrology-cat/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same optical illusion issue as @apeleytheros, but even with the rotation so they looked like craters to my eyes, the shadows just seem odd.  The McAuliffe crater has very sharp edges to the shadow, and the secondary crater tagged along with Resnick must be very deep or have a high &quot;west&quot; ridge because the shadow covers 80% of the crater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same optical illusion issue as @apeleytheros, but even with the rotation so they looked like craters to my eyes, the shadows just seem odd.  The McAuliffe crater has very sharp edges to the shadow, and the secondary crater tagged along with Resnick must be very deep or have a high &#8220;west&#8221; ridge because the shadow covers 80% of the crater.</p>
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		<title>By: apeleytheros</title>
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		<dc:creator>apeleytheros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 21:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol thats amazing. I rotated the image sto the light comes from top, and it looked clearly like craters now. Thank you all for your responses. Trying to figure out whats wrong with the original image. (prolly whats wrong with me as I&#039;m not used to stare at lunar pictures)

There are not many things left anonymus on the moon I guess, to be named after astronauts. Not to mention that it has ..craters mainly. I guess all the important stuff has been named before since its the  easiest to explore (with the eye) in detail object in the night sky. (I remember seeing a very detailed map with names, back a while ago)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol thats amazing. I rotated the image sto the light comes from top, and it looked clearly like craters now. Thank you all for your responses. Trying to figure out whats wrong with the original image. (prolly whats wrong with me as I&#8217;m not used to stare at lunar pictures)</p>
<p>There are not many things left anonymus on the moon I guess, to be named after astronauts. Not to mention that it has ..craters mainly. I guess all the important stuff has been named before since its the  easiest to explore (with the eye) in detail object in the night sky. (I remember seeing a very detailed map with names, back a while ago)</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Riv said. And besides the shuttle has successfully managed to keep human spaceflight stuck in Low Earth Orbit, so giving them a memorial on the Moon seems somewhat ironic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Riv said. And besides the shuttle has successfully managed to keep human spaceflight stuck in Low Earth Orbit, so giving them a memorial on the Moon seems somewhat ironic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN_AT_LARGE</title>
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		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN_AT_LARGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sHx: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;BTW, have the Russians, Chinese and Europeans agreed to the new names or is this a unilateral move?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
According to Wikipedia, crater nomenclature -- like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_nomenclature&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;planetary_nomenclature&lt;/a&gt; -- is governed by the International Astronomical Union (yeah, the same guys who decided that Pluto is not a planet), and this listing only includes features that are officially recognized by that scientific society.

    
  
(Yeah, you guys, I&#039;m Back!) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sHx: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>BTW, have the Russians, Chinese and Europeans agreed to the new names or is this a unilateral move?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>According to Wikipedia, crater nomenclature &#8212; like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_nomenclature" rel="nofollow">planetary_nomenclature</a> &#8212; is governed by the International Astronomical Union (yeah, the same guys who decided that Pluto is not a planet), and this listing only includes features that are officially recognized by that scientific society.</p>
<p>(Yeah, you guys, I&#8217;m Back!) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ChH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apeleytheros, rotate the image so it appears the light is coming from above instead of from the left (90 deg CCW) and they will more easily appear as crateers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apeleytheros, rotate the image so it appears the light is coming from above instead of from the left (90 deg CCW) and they will more easily appear as crateers.</p>
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		<title>By: PayasYouStargaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>PayasYouStargaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Riv. Maybe they could have named something other than craters after these astronauts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Riv. Maybe they could have named something other than craters after these astronauts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralf Muschall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralf Muschall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did the women get the smallest craters?</description>
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		<title>By: Riv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s not intended, but isn&#039;t it a little morbid to name impact craters after lost astronauts?</description>
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		<title>By: sHx</title>
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		<dc:creator>sHx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@apeleytheros

Yes, they look like domes instead of craters as a result of optical illusion. This particular optical illusion comes a lot on BA. See this for example:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/01/terra-spots-an-impact-on-um-terra/

In this particular instance, I don&#039;t mind if the craters look like domes... for obvious reasons.

BTW, have the Russians, Chinese and Europeans agreed to the new names or is this a unilateral move?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@apeleytheros</p>
<p>Yes, they look like domes instead of craters as a result of optical illusion. This particular optical illusion comes a lot on BA. See this for example:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/01/terra-spots-an-impact-on-um-terra/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/01/terra-spots-an-impact-on-um-terra/</a></p>
<p>In this particular instance, I don&#8217;t mind if the craters look like domes&#8230; for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>BTW, have the Russians, Chinese and Europeans agreed to the new names or is this a unilateral move?</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
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		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ apeleytheros:

It&#039;s all in the light. There are some hills just up and to the right of the McAuliffe crater. Note the bright slopes on the left and the shadows on the right, especially the deep shadow at the far right where a hill is cut by a steep cliff. All the craters have the shadows on the left, where the sunlight (coming from the left) doesn&#039;t reach.

BTW, mou aresei to website sas. (Signomi yia tin kaki ellinika mou.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ apeleytheros:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all in the light. There are some hills just up and to the right of the McAuliffe crater. Note the bright slopes on the left and the shadows on the right, especially the deep shadow at the far right where a hill is cut by a steep cliff. All the craters have the shadows on the left, where the sunlight (coming from the left) doesn&#8217;t reach.</p>
<p>BTW, mou aresei to website sas. (Signomi yia tin kaki ellinika mou.)</p>
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