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	<title>Comments on: Sagan destroys astrology</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jabjabs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-357087</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabjabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I am very amused by this. Time to go get an apple pie myself :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I am very amused by this. Time to go get an apple pie myself <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-357084</link>
		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34, Isaac,

I think you missed the joke. The zodiac ship keeps firing weapons that don&#039;t work. That suggests their engineers don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing. Which further suggests their engineers wouldn&#039;t know how to build a working ship in the first place.

It would make sense that Sagan&#039;s ship &quot;was built by engineers using scientifically sound principles&quot;, but not the zodiac ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34, Isaac,</p>
<p>I think you missed the joke. The zodiac ship keeps firing weapons that don&#8217;t work. That suggests their engineers don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing. Which further suggests their engineers wouldn&#8217;t know how to build a working ship in the first place.</p>
<p>It would make sense that Sagan&#8217;s ship &#8220;was built by engineers using scientifically sound principles&#8221;, but not the zodiac ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-357041</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ flip, #30

&quot;One wonders how the animal spaceship even functions.&quot;

Simple, flip. As with computers and pretty much everything else in the world, the zodiac ship functions because it was built by engineers using scientifically sound principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ flip, #30</p>
<p>&#8220;One wonders how the animal spaceship even functions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple, flip. As with computers and pretty much everything else in the world, the zodiac ship functions because it was built by engineers using scientifically sound principles.</p>
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		<title>By: penneysound</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356862</link>
		<dc:creator>penneysound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if anyone wants to make some sort of animation of it, i would happily provide sound effects if you can provide voices</description>
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		<title>By: Ksessoking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356661</link>
		<dc:creator>Ksessoking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait to show this to my students!</description>
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		<title>By: Rodolfo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356460</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodolfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl Sagan: MY HERO!!! I still remember when I saw Cosmos on TV for the first time (I have a copy in VHS, another in DVD, the book and the music in a 33 rpm-vinil record!!). From time to time I enjoy re-reading some of his books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Sagan: MY HERO!!! I still remember when I saw Cosmos on TV for the first time (I have a copy in VHS, another in DVD, the book and the music in a 33 rpm-vinil record!!). From time to time I enjoy re-reading some of his books.</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356442</link>
		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one good comic!

One wonders how the animal spaceship even functions.</description>
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<p>One wonders how the animal spaceship even functions.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356336</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess some people view astrology as a religion, but that does not obligate us to treat it any differently. The days when we have to treat religion with deference merely because it is religion are long gone.  Religion does not occupy some special place that requires us to treat it any differently than say politics.  Besides as belief systems go astrology is sort of the bubble gum of woo. Stop making special pleas about religion because I don&#039;t care if you are offended that I ridicule  your religion or your deity.  It had to happen sometime that religion was cut down to size and I am happy to be a part of that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess some people view astrology as a religion, but that does not obligate us to treat it any differently. The days when we have to treat religion with deference merely because it is religion are long gone.  Religion does not occupy some special place that requires us to treat it any differently than say politics.  Besides as belief systems go astrology is sort of the bubble gum of woo. Stop making special pleas about religion because I don&#8217;t care if you are offended that I ridicule  your religion or your deity.  It had to happen sometime that religion was cut down to size and I am happy to be a part of that process.</p>
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		<title>By: Ld Elon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ld Elon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not brilliant, this is a childs toy. Ther is a difference you know.

who the fk is carl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not brilliant, this is a childs toy. Ther is a difference you know.</p>
<p>who the fk is carl?</p>
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		<title>By: Boingo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356194</link>
		<dc:creator>Boingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho ho ho! LOL!

Carl Sagan for the win!

And lots more sentences ending in exclamation points!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho ho ho! LOL!</p>
<p>Carl Sagan for the win!</p>
<p>And lots more sentences ending in exclamation points!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: grung0r</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356187</link>
		<dc:creator>grung0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How uncivil of you to post this! Whenever I see  the ridiculing of people&#039;s cherished beliefs, I feel that the go to guy is one Phil Plait. Here is what he had to say on the subject:&lt;i&gt; Ridiculing... is not the right path; certainly taking them to task for it is OK and I support that, as I said in my original post on this. But you don’t have to be a dick about it.&lt;/i&gt; 

Perhaps this isn&#039;t rank hypocrisy though. Maybe ridiculing People&#039;s deeply held and cherished(yet mind numbingly stupid) beliefs is ok, as long as it&#039;s not  deeply held and cherished(yet mind numbingly stupid)&lt;i&gt;Religious&lt;/i&gt; beliefs. A special plea, if you will. Yes, that must be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How uncivil of you to post this! Whenever I see  the ridiculing of people&#8217;s cherished beliefs, I feel that the go to guy is one Phil Plait. Here is what he had to say on the subject:<i> Ridiculing&#8230; is not the right path; certainly taking them to task for it is OK and I support that, as I said in my original post on this. But you don’t have to be a dick about it.</i> </p>
<p>Perhaps this isn&#8217;t rank hypocrisy though. Maybe ridiculing People&#8217;s deeply held and cherished(yet mind numbingly stupid) beliefs is ok, as long as it&#8217;s not  deeply held and cherished(yet mind numbingly stupid)<i>Religious</i> beliefs. A special plea, if you will. Yes, that must be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan(UK)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356183</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan(UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is enough to make you believe in astrology:

http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/E07.5(0359).pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is enough to make you believe in astrology:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/E07.5(0359).pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ursi.org/Proceedings/ProcGA05/pdf/E07.5(0359).pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: froonium</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356138</link>
		<dc:creator>froonium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent comic! Unfortunately, astrology is playing the whack-a-mole game and just popped up in India with this bit o&#039; stupid - &lt;a href=&quot;http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/174200/Bombay-High-Court-Rules-Astrology-To-Be-a-Science&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bombay-High-Court-Rules-Astrology-To-Be-a-Science&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent comic! Unfortunately, astrology is playing the whack-a-mole game and just popped up in India with this bit o&#8217; stupid &#8211; <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/174200/Bombay-High-Court-Rules-Astrology-To-Be-a-Science" rel="nofollow">Bombay-High-Court-Rules-Astrology-To-Be-a-Science</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carl Sagan destruye la astrología &#171; [Px]</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356127</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Sagan destruye la astrología &#171; [Px]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ninjerktsu [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zyggy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356121</link>
		<dc:creator>Zyggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, sir, win at the internet today.

The Carl Sagan comic was great, but I though the best part is the link to the Symphony of Science video. I hadn&#039;t heard of the band previously, but I really enjoyed the other stuff as well.

On an amusing note, so to speak, putting Carl Sagan&#039;s voice through the auto-tuner makes him sound a LOT like Kermit the Frog. 

Zyg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, sir, win at the internet today.</p>
<p>The Carl Sagan comic was great, but I though the best part is the link to the Symphony of Science video. I hadn&#8217;t heard of the band previously, but I really enjoyed the other stuff as well.</p>
<p>On an amusing note, so to speak, putting Carl Sagan&#8217;s voice through the auto-tuner makes him sound a LOT like Kermit the Frog. </p>
<p>Zyg</p>
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		<title>By: nancyem</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356113</link>
		<dc:creator>nancyem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE IT. had a huge crush on Sagan when I was a kid, who needed teenybopper magazines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE IT. had a huge crush on Sagan when I was a kid, who needed teenybopper magazines?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Major</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356100</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliantness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliantness</p>
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		<title>By: fetchbeer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356088</link>
		<dc:creator>fetchbeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl Sagan can hear you scream in space.</description>
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		<title>By: Arik Rice</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356087</link>
		<dc:creator>Arik Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last bit should have read &quot;crumbly but...good&quot;. Still it was frakkin hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last bit should have read &#8220;crumbly but&#8230;good&#8221;. Still it was frakkin hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: truthspeaker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356084</link>
		<dc:creator>truthspeaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assumed Carl heard the &quot;BOOOOOOM!!!&quot; when the shock wave from the explosion hit his vessel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assumed Carl heard the &#8220;BOOOOOOM!!!&#8221; when the shock wave from the explosion hit his vessel.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (treelobsters)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356077</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve (treelobsters)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Carl&#039;s ship has an augmented reality feature that detects explosions in space and overlays suitable sound effects in 5.1 Surround.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Carl&#8217;s ship has an augmented reality feature that detects explosions in space and overlays suitable sound effects in 5.1 Surround.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved it, until it got to the panel where you could hear the &quot;BOOOOOM!!!!&quot; in outer space...  Ruined the whole thing for me.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved it, until it got to the panel where you could hear the &#8220;BOOOOOM!!!!&#8221; in outer space&#8230;  Ruined the whole thing for me.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bluegrass Geek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356067</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a similar note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M

&quot;Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a similar note:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Simmons</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/03/sagan-destroys-astrology/comment-page-1/#comment-356062</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He appears (with the title character) in Atomic Robo Vol. 3: Atomic Robo and the Shadow From Beyond Time. In the 1970s Robo ropes Sagan into helping him study an interdimensional Lovecraftian creature. It&#039;s a great story and Sagan gets to use Robo&#039;s Science Gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He appears (with the title character) in Atomic Robo Vol. 3: Atomic Robo and the Shadow From Beyond Time. In the 1970s Robo ropes Sagan into helping him study an interdimensional Lovecraftian creature. It&#8217;s a great story and Sagan gets to use Robo&#8217;s Science Gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you posted this.  Someone showed it to me the other day and it made my whole week!

@ ellie:  I agree! I hope there are more of these.</description>
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<p>@ ellie:  I agree! I hope there are more of these.</p>
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