http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-swine-flu-vaccine-child-narcolepsy.html

I sent the Physorg article to Phil on Feb 1. I hope he’s not simply ignoring it. It does no service to vaccination awareness to hide anything. As I wrote there about the story:

This news is disturbing.

If true, the anti-vaxxers will rally around this and use it to bolster other unsupportable claims and fear-mongering. This will ultimately result in more children dying due to low vaccination rates.

What I’m sure will be completely ignored by the anti-vax movement is the fact that, at the slightest shred of credible link between a vaccine and an unwanted side-effect, the scientific/medical community, governments, and whatever other bodies supposedly controlled by ‘Big Pharma’, have taken immediate action to resolve the issue.

There’s no cover up, no attempts to sweep anything under the rug, only a dedication to the truth and to the wellbeing of our species.

When will people learn? This is our lives at stake here, not some stupid political ideal.

Got some links or proof for that?

We arent finished with evolution just yet, people. Parents make choices, and sometimes children die because of those choices. Children get sick from many things, and some of them die. Adults get sick and die too. Its how it goes. When we get down to around 100 million humans, then I will worry.

The government has already decided that for entry into public schools various vaccinations are required for new students for the protection of all. Only can parents avoid childhood vaccinations for a few private schools, most also require these vaccinations. Anyone has the right to present information why it might be thought that one or another vaccine might be a problem in the long run.

“I was 4 when I contracted polio. Six decades later, I get around with crutches and a scooter, and deal with access issues on a daily basis. No child born today should have to face the challenges I and so many others suffered.

If we stop the fight to end polio now, the virus will spread again. There is no excuse for a single case of polio anywhere. We have a powerful new vaccine and growing global support to achieve eradication.”

“Hopefully, my grandkids will think “Hey the flu couldn’t have been that bad… probably just a bad cold” because they will never have encountered an actual flu in their lifetimes.”

Let’s hope not cause that’s the sort of arguments anti-vaxers are making today.

I wouldn’t call it a joke. It wasn’t the “end of mankind virus” that some media outlets hyped it up to be but it was a pandemic. There are a lot of people who didn’t get the vaccine that aren’t alive and well now. In my household, my sons got it (dangerous for my younger son since he tends to have febrial seizures with high fevers) and my wife got it. I, somehow, was spared. My wife’s lungs still haven’t fully recovered.

Luckily, Oxford University is working on a Universal Flu Vaccine. If this works, you’ll get one jab and be protected against all flu strains. No more trying to guess which flu will come out this year. We can have actual herd immunity against the flu. Hopefully, my grandkids will think “Hey the flu couldn’t have been that bad… probably just a bad cold” because they will never have encountered an actual flu in their lifetimes.

I completely agree. And if, for some reason, you can’t stand the taste of plain water, put some lemons or other fruit into a big pitcher of water and stick it in the fridge for a few days. Then pour the water into reusable bottles (e.g. Nalgene) for consumption on the go. Less waste than disposable bottles and probably healthier too.

The Influenza A so called pandemic of 2009 was a joke. Millions of euros (if not billions) were spent on vaccines and hand washing products, and it turned out that it wasn’t that big of a pandemic.

Who profited with all this?? I didn’t took such vaccine, and hey… I’m alive and well until now.

In response to a recent lawsuit against Coca-Cola filed by the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), Coke’s attorneys replied in court briefings that, “…no consumer could reasonably be misled into thinking vitaminwater was a healthy beverage.”

http://www.naturalnews.com/029425_vitaminwater_Coca-Cola.html

Joe Alvord Said:
“On another note, there’s now a place where one can earn a doctorate in homeopathy. ”
You can get people to pay thousands of dollars to learn how to make watered down Kool-Aid? I’m in the wrong line of work.

But as far as I’m concerned, all that’s forgiven, on account of what Gates is doing with all those ill-gotten gains through his charity.

But the Gates Foundation has been doing phenomenal work around the globe. And the Gates Foundation listens to research, and conducts its own research, to best figure out how to do that work and have a positive effect.

Which means the “Well Gates is just another celebrity, what really matters is where they get their information from” argument is, to use computer parlance, a no-op (short for ‘operation’): It does nothing, changes nothing, just occupies some space and time to read it, recognize it as nothing, and move on.

Keep it coming Phil (I know you will), these guys may never be utterly defeated (murderous stupidity seems to be a basic human trait, like war) but stuff like your post, and Simon Singh’s success and so forth should push em against the wall. People like Phil, Randi, Simon Singh and many others do the world an eloquent and valuable service.

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Besides, no matter what you may have learned from gaming, morality isn’t a balance. Good works can’t be balanced against bad ones and wipe them away. An otherwise good man who kills in cold blood is still a murderer. A robber baron who contributes to the survival of millions is still a robber baron.

@#41 – “Baloney” is an accepted spelling (the dominant spelling?) when the product in question is dubious notions sold as facts. Bologna is the meat product.