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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: reidh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/25/kablamblamblam/comment-page-2/#comment-426645</link>
		<dc:creator>reidh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there was much life on mars, and water as well, but the event that produced the asteroids and meteroids etc., I think scoured the shire there, knocked Venus over and  Uranus onto is side, gave Jupiter its Red Eye, and Saturn its Rings and maybe Pluto and Charon were/are co conspirators in it. I think earth was on the other side of the Sun at the time and so avoided being demolished like Mars. I mean you don&#039;t has to be a science rocketist to perceive that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there was much life on mars, and water as well, but the event that produced the asteroids and meteroids etc., I think scoured the shire there, knocked Venus over and  Uranus onto is side, gave Jupiter its Red Eye, and Saturn its Rings and maybe Pluto and Charon were/are co conspirators in it. I think earth was on the other side of the Sun at the time and so avoided being demolished like Mars. I mean you don&#8217;t has to be a science rocketist to perceive that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has volcanic activity been ruled out completely?  We sometimes see volcanic craters that align themselves like this on Earth due to shifts in a hot spot.  I&#039;m no geologist, but that seemed like at least something for the more learned to look into and comment on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has volcanic activity been ruled out completely?  We sometimes see volcanic craters that align themselves like this on Earth due to shifts in a hot spot.  I&#8217;m no geologist, but that seemed like at least something for the more learned to look into and comment on.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 53.t Joseph G: Yeah, but if you were at right angles to the line of impact, then the sound would be simultaneous, and so would be 4.5db louder. But that is not the problem actually. We are talking about the shockwave produced by the three impacts. They would emit as a hemisphere for each impact, and would soon impinge on each other. On the surface that would manifest itself as a straight line. Extrapolated, that shockwave would form an expanding hemisphere of extra-centric pressure waves in the atmosphere and where they meet another coming the other way, it would result in a straight line on the surface.

Just what effect it has on the topography I don&#039;t know precisely, but it may create a rill or a ridge, if the compression force was large enough. But would, could, it happen really? I would have thought the effect would have been continuous anyway, not unlike any other effect we see in a fluid, including in the atmosphere. The classic is the cork bobbing in the ocean, as a wave passes by. It is influenced only by the  transfer of the energy of the wave through the water, essentially moving in a vertical circle and resting where it was before.

We&#039;ve all seen the high speed imaging of the effects of that shockwave in the tests of Nuclear explosions even fifty or sixty years ago, destroying buildings and severely flexing trees and the like. I think somehow similar effects on relatively loose ground features such as sand, rocks and soil will be re-distributed by the initial wavefront, but when the effect is effectively cancelled out in the meeting of the two wavefronts, the debris just falls to the surface in a line reminiscent of the straight line boundary. And a valley represents the point of rarefaction in that wavefront where debris falls at the compression point on each side of that lower pressure point. That it ends up being a straight line is a representation of those colliding wavefronts and forms a valley.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 53.t Joseph G: Yeah, but if you were at right angles to the line of impact, then the sound would be simultaneous, and so would be 4.5db louder. But that is not the problem actually. We are talking about the shockwave produced by the three impacts. They would emit as a hemisphere for each impact, and would soon impinge on each other. On the surface that would manifest itself as a straight line. Extrapolated, that shockwave would form an expanding hemisphere of extra-centric pressure waves in the atmosphere and where they meet another coming the other way, it would result in a straight line on the surface.</p>
<p>Just what effect it has on the topography I don&#8217;t know precisely, but it may create a rill or a ridge, if the compression force was large enough. But would, could, it happen really? I would have thought the effect would have been continuous anyway, not unlike any other effect we see in a fluid, including in the atmosphere. The classic is the cork bobbing in the ocean, as a wave passes by. It is influenced only by the  transfer of the energy of the wave through the water, essentially moving in a vertical circle and resting where it was before.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all seen the high speed imaging of the effects of that shockwave in the tests of Nuclear explosions even fifty or sixty years ago, destroying buildings and severely flexing trees and the like. I think somehow similar effects on relatively loose ground features such as sand, rocks and soil will be re-distributed by the initial wavefront, but when the effect is effectively cancelled out in the meeting of the two wavefronts, the debris just falls to the surface in a line reminiscent of the straight line boundary. And a valley represents the point of rarefaction in that wavefront where debris falls at the compression point on each side of that lower pressure point. That it ends up being a straight line is a representation of those colliding wavefronts and forms a valley.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/25/kablamblamblam/comment-page-2/#comment-373345</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope we find a set of simultaneous craters in a triangle formation some day. It would be cool to see this in three-part radial symmetry.</description>
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		<title>By: Hire Jim Essian - Popeye on the Internet: The &#8220;Opening Day&#8221; Edition</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/25/kablamblamblam/comment-page-2/#comment-373195</link>
		<dc:creator>Hire Jim Essian - Popeye on the Internet: The &#8220;Opening Day&#8221; Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sand worms. You hate &#8216;em, right? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hire Jim Essian - Popeye on the Internet: The &#8220;Opening Day&#8221; Edition</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/25/kablamblamblam/comment-page-2/#comment-373196</link>
		<dc:creator>Hire Jim Essian - Popeye on the Internet: The &#8220;Opening Day&#8221; Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sand worms. You hate &#8216;em, right? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a hugely Improbable whale.</description>
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		<title>By: Berserker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berserker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is old battle damage. Badlife dodged this salvo, but not the delivery of penetrating masses at 0.9 &lt;i&gt;c&lt;/i&gt;. The volcanoes and missing seas are that result, and Mars is no longer infected.

We see Earth is afflicted. We&#039;ll have to do something about that soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is old battle damage. Badlife dodged this salvo, but not the delivery of penetrating masses at 0.9 <i>c</i>. The volcanoes and missing seas are that result, and Mars is no longer infected.</p>
<p>We see Earth is afflicted. We&#8217;ll have to do something about that soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 51:  Well, if you were on the surface (some distance away, I would hope) watching the collisions, and you were in line with the long axis of the chain, the sound of the three explosions would hit you one at a time, even if the collisions were simultaneous  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 51:  Well, if you were on the surface (some distance away, I would hope) watching the collisions, and you were in line with the long axis of the chain, the sound of the three explosions would hit you one at a time, even if the collisions were simultaneous  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Capt Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting. especally the blast lines. Looking at the Barsoominated picture one can see:

1. the blast structure seems to indicate the Left hand blastwave was larger, notice the trough gouge is more pronounced. This also indicate that the center rock might have been the largest (as if that matters).

2. In side to left upper quadrant is a small double crater of the same only newer impact paramiters. Double crater Straight center Wall. Now that is lightning striking in the same place!

Enjoy

Capt Tommy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting. especally the blast lines. Looking at the Barsoominated picture one can see:</p>
<p>1. the blast structure seems to indicate the Left hand blastwave was larger, notice the trough gouge is more pronounced. This also indicate that the center rock might have been the largest (as if that matters).</p>
<p>2. In side to left upper quadrant is a small double crater of the same only newer impact paramiters. Double crater Straight center Wall. Now that is lightning striking in the same place!</p>
<p>Enjoy</p>
<p>Capt Tommy</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I&#039;ve just realised that if the asteroid(s) hit the Moon similtaneously, then your title for this post is mathematically incorrect.

Shouldn&#039;t it be:-          KaBLAM3      (that is, ...Cubed. Or at least X3 (...times three)! (I couldn&#039;t make a proper superscript 3 - could not find any way to address the fonts, they are apparently not available in the comment box. I could be wrong, anyone know better?

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I&#8217;ve just realised that if the asteroid(s) hit the Moon similtaneously, then your title for this post is mathematically incorrect.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t it be:-          KaBLAM3      (that is, &#8230;Cubed. Or at least X3 (&#8230;times three)! (I couldn&#8217;t make a proper superscript 3 &#8211; could not find any way to address the fonts, they are apparently not available in the comment box. I could be wrong, anyone know better?</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was almost poetic.</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MTU: Wow! Speaking of giant Canadian holes, (insert your own obscene Canadian celebrity reference here)!

Srsly, atmospheric breakup isn&#039;t the most plausible mechanism, is it?  Shoemaker-Levy was a pretty neat demonstration of tidal disruption and crater chains (well, mushroom-cloud chains, in this case)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTU: Wow! Speaking of giant Canadian holes, (insert your own obscene Canadian celebrity reference here)!</p>
<p>Srsly, atmospheric breakup isn&#8217;t the most plausible mechanism, is it?  Shoemaker-Levy was a pretty neat demonstration of tidal disruption and crater chains (well, mushroom-cloud chains, in this case)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: g leap</title>
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		<dc:creator>g leap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a hit.</description>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/25/kablamblamblam/comment-page-1/#comment-372007</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 31.   Messier Tidy Upper : 

&lt;Blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Something similar – although with more widely dispersed fragments – has probably happened on Earth before – see : [link snipped]
Manicougan crater ...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm... Actually,  come to think of it : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwater_Lakes  

is more like the one I was thinking of with that.  ;-)

That&#039;s one - no, *two* - impressive Candian craters! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 31.   Messier Tidy Upper : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Something similar – although with more widely dispersed fragments – has probably happened on Earth before – see : [link snipped]<br />
Manicougan crater &#8230;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; Actually,  come to think of it : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwater_Lakes" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwater_Lakes</a>  </p>
<p>is more like the one I was thinking of with that.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one &#8211; no, *two* &#8211; impressive Candian craters! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 03:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t this have been caused by tidal force dissociation?</description>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 02:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some hours later, after a good sleep, I can now resolve it as all concave. WOW, and it puts a different perspective on it.

Except..... what I had resolved to be the two straight, almost parallel &quot;valleys&quot;, are now slight ridges. And I am now at a loss to explain exactly why.

Anybody offer any explanation? I cannot find or remember seeing any examples for that on Earth.

And as Filipe @44 above says, the total impact was a giant evil peanut, it would have to have been a three kernel peanut! Having grown peanuts, I know they do exist, like double-yolk eggs, rarish but existing in nature. In space there has to be rarities too, but explaining the mechanics is another thing.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some hours later, after a good sleep, I can now resolve it as all concave. WOW, and it puts a different perspective on it.</p>
<p>Except&#8230;.. what I had resolved to be the two straight, almost parallel &#8220;valleys&#8221;, are now slight ridges. And I am now at a loss to explain exactly why.</p>
<p>Anybody offer any explanation? I cannot find or remember seeing any examples for that on Earth.</p>
<p>And as Filipe @44 above says, the total impact was a giant evil peanut, it would have to have been a three kernel peanut! Having grown peanuts, I know they do exist, like double-yolk eggs, rarish but existing in nature. In space there has to be rarities too, but explaining the mechanics is another thing.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Filipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is quite obvious, it was hit face on by a giant evil peanut from outer space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is quite obvious, it was hit face on by a giant evil peanut from outer space.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really REALLY wish you would not truncate your RSS feed. Makes reading the full details of these amazing pics a pain! ;) Please un-truncate?

Those are some amazing craters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really REALLY wish you would not truncate your RSS feed. Makes reading the full details of these amazing pics a pain! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Please un-truncate?</p>
<p>Those are some amazing craters.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too had my usual perception problem with the image. I more or less just ignore it now, knowing a large proportion of the population see it just as it is:- a concave, dished-in crater. I&#039;ll have another look later.

As for the impact itself, I feel it was a direct hit, straight in, vertical. (It does happen). This would account for the lack of oval shaped craters. Each piece, roughly the same size, and just happening to be in a triple dead-heat in the race to the planet Mars, impact in line at the same moment. The geometry of the shock waves would create a straight (-ish) line at their own impact in the atmosphere. Consider each of those shock wave as a sphere, then the result would be essentially cancelled out, except at the surface where massive movement of matter would be affected, probably causing a straight valley, one on each side of the central crater.

There seems to be some slight asymmetry as the two valleys or whatever, are not parallel - an indication of a dynamic event, and not an artifact of something else? Is there any evidence that there may have been a slightly earlier impact of a fourth piece, but obliterated by the craters that we can see?  In that case, what would be different? I suppose the ripples we see are the normal dune structure where loose sand is being blown around by the prevailing winds, and not interference patterns that we see in holograms, and Moire patterns, firmly etched in the solid rock.

Arrrr, wish I hadn&#039;t mentioned dune.... must have been the Spice... sorry, but some others beat me to it, and I couldn&#039;t help myself!

Ivan. 

PS. Looking at that image again, I definitely see the lower left crater as concave, but the lower right is convex. The long valleys are both concave but the central big crater won&#039;t budge from being convex, though there seems to be some dished look to some of the central parts of the three craters. Maybe there IS a big mound at the bottom part of the crater wall area . I can see both effects at the same time, which seems to be an improbability.

Ivan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too had my usual perception problem with the image. I more or less just ignore it now, knowing a large proportion of the population see it just as it is:- a concave, dished-in crater. I&#8217;ll have another look later.</p>
<p>As for the impact itself, I feel it was a direct hit, straight in, vertical. (It does happen). This would account for the lack of oval shaped craters. Each piece, roughly the same size, and just happening to be in a triple dead-heat in the race to the planet Mars, impact in line at the same moment. The geometry of the shock waves would create a straight (-ish) line at their own impact in the atmosphere. Consider each of those shock wave as a sphere, then the result would be essentially cancelled out, except at the surface where massive movement of matter would be affected, probably causing a straight valley, one on each side of the central crater.</p>
<p>There seems to be some slight asymmetry as the two valleys or whatever, are not parallel &#8211; an indication of a dynamic event, and not an artifact of something else? Is there any evidence that there may have been a slightly earlier impact of a fourth piece, but obliterated by the craters that we can see?  In that case, what would be different? I suppose the ripples we see are the normal dune structure where loose sand is being blown around by the prevailing winds, and not interference patterns that we see in holograms, and Moire patterns, firmly etched in the solid rock.</p>
<p>Arrrr, wish I hadn&#8217;t mentioned dune&#8230;. must have been the Spice&#8230; sorry, but some others beat me to it, and I couldn&#8217;t help myself!</p>
<p>Ivan. </p>
<p>PS. Looking at that image again, I definitely see the lower left crater as concave, but the lower right is convex. The long valleys are both concave but the central big crater won&#8217;t budge from being convex, though there seems to be some dished look to some of the central parts of the three craters. Maybe there IS a big mound at the bottom part of the crater wall area . I can see both effects at the same time, which seems to be an improbability.</p>
<p>Ivan</p>
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		<title>By: John Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It kinda looks like a giant, 1951 Vogon Studebaker hit it head on after a wrong turn at the Asteroid (Orange) Belt!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Parkinson @ #3 asked: &quot;I may be way off the mark here but I’m guessing that an event like this would be catastrophic for life on the planet? IF that is the case, could this crater be the reason that no life has been found on Mars?&quot;

I don&#039;t think impacts of this size would have been catastrophic, except in very particular cases. The reason I think that is that these objects would have been much smaller than the rock which hit the Earth at the end of the Cretaceous Period and formed the Chicxulub crater. That rock was probably responsible for the death of large portions of the Earth&#039;s ecosystem, but it certainly wasn&#039;t enough to wipe out life on Earth. Note also that it was the more complex life which suffered most in that impact.

So I think those impactors could only have been responsible for wiping out life on Mars if the only life on Mars had been directly under those rocks when they struck.

&quot;I’d appreciate your informed view on my uninformed guesswork!&quot;

Sorry, but my comments above were little more than uninformed guesswork too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Parkinson @ #3 asked: &#8220;I may be way off the mark here but I’m guessing that an event like this would be catastrophic for life on the planet? IF that is the case, could this crater be the reason that no life has been found on Mars?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think impacts of this size would have been catastrophic, except in very particular cases. The reason I think that is that these objects would have been much smaller than the rock which hit the Earth at the end of the Cretaceous Period and formed the Chicxulub crater. That rock was probably responsible for the death of large portions of the Earth&#8217;s ecosystem, but it certainly wasn&#8217;t enough to wipe out life on Earth. Note also that it was the more complex life which suffered most in that impact.</p>
<p>So I think those impactors could only have been responsible for wiping out life on Mars if the only life on Mars had been directly under those rocks when they struck.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’d appreciate your informed view on my uninformed guesswork!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but my comments above were little more than uninformed guesswork too.</p>
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		<title>By: Radwaste</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radwaste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you discussing shockwave speed will please note that the same still exists in vacuum, matter being provided by the impinging mass. Those of you fond of studying nuclear weapons know this intimately.

&lt;i&gt;Air&lt;/i&gt; does NOT transmit all impact energy, and in fact it isn&#039;t even required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you discussing shockwave speed will please note that the same still exists in vacuum, matter being provided by the impinging mass. Those of you fond of studying nuclear weapons know this intimately.</p>
<p><i>Air</i> does NOT transmit all impact energy, and in fact it isn&#8217;t even required.</p>
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		<title>By: VagrantThorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>VagrantThorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 07:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my physics may be a little rusty, I&#039;m pretty confident planetwide disaster would have been averted had they listened to the dolphins.</description>
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		<title>By: Santanu Ghosal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santanu Ghosal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 05:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb article and really the photograph is something to remember.But one thing I have doubt.

@Phil:Looking at the Report published in Chicago Chronicle,&quot;Rowley said that the chance that these craters are randomly so aligned is near zero.&quot; The same question comes to mind also.If the meteor breaks at the atmosphere how come they all fall just beside each other.Seemed like all the three meteors might have come down just side by side or has broken off just after touching ground zero.
 Report:http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/980319/craters.shtml
Also if we look closely in the enlarged image of the impact zone,I find some zig zag lines,what could be the reason for that.Also the sides of the crater seems to have eroded at some places and smooth at other places...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb article and really the photograph is something to remember.But one thing I have doubt.</p>
<p>@Phil:Looking at the Report published in Chicago Chronicle,&#8221;Rowley said that the chance that these craters are randomly so aligned is near zero.&#8221; The same question comes to mind also.If the meteor breaks at the atmosphere how come they all fall just beside each other.Seemed like all the three meteors might have come down just side by side or has broken off just after touching ground zero.<br />
 Report:<a href="http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/980319/craters.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/980319/craters.shtml</a><br />
Also if we look closely in the enlarged image of the impact zone,I find some zig zag lines,what could be the reason for that.Also the sides of the crater seems to have eroded at some places and smooth at other places&#8230;</p>
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